jman1954goat
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We'll see if there's any twist to it but that was a pretty good D1 for us.
Don't think anyone's coming out with any suspicion. Any early thoughts on a target for tonight?
Don't think anyone's coming out with any suspicion. Any early thoughts on a target for tonight?
jman1954goat
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Selfishly I want everyone Town reading me to stay alive
(Leo,Launchpad, one other person)
Hawthorn, Zeke, and Saw all got slight suspicion so all of them can stay alive.
Fate seems like the least cooperative to play around, a town leader candidate that was the least complacent in Geno 's Vote so would not mind a Kill on Him. ,
just first thoughts we will see what the Flip changes if anything.
(Leo,Launchpad, one other person)
Hawthorn, Zeke, and Saw all got slight suspicion so all of them can stay alive.
Fate seems like the least cooperative to play around, a town leader candidate that was the least complacent in Geno 's Vote so would not mind a Kill on Him. ,
just first thoughts we will see what the Flip changes if anything.
jman1954goat
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Launchpad townreads me However threw some sus on EC and said ATP is not an automatic townreads like normal.
I think his opinion on ATP will change to town as long as ATP plays well.
Do you think his EC Opinions will change/ we convince him?
I think his opinion on ATP will change to town as long as ATP plays well.
Do you think his EC Opinions will change/ we convince him?
He later said EC was to flippant to be scum i think
I actually think we should kill zeke, I think he might of been breadcrumbing a cop role
I actually think we should kill zeke, I think he might of been breadcrumbing a cop role
I'd also rather get rid of one of the more veteran players than fate regardless
EvilChameleon
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Yeah, it would be nice to get rid of one of the vets, or someone in the middle of the road.
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What was the breadcrumb? It has to be tracker since we killed the alignment cop.
In general I would like to Kill players who I think can't be mislynched. During the day.
I think Zeke can be a Day kill but if your Tracker read is Good Its a good Kill tonight.
jman1954goat
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I will assume nobody has stood out enough to need my heal so I will submit No action
we also need to discuss who is the least likely to be tracked. That person needs to send faction kill.
unless we go Ninja.
we also need to discuss who is the least likely to be tracked. That person needs to send faction kill.
unless we go Ninja.
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Personally I feel BoJack is probably least likely to be tracked. (At least if I was playing tracker)
I Vote BoJack sends the kill. And let him decided between Normal one and Doing Ninja one.
I Vote BoJack sends the kill. And let him decided between Normal one and Doing Ninja one.
The thing i thought might have been a breadcrumb is probably nothing seeing the flip.
Basically zeke said without a counter claim we had to believe geno was a cop. But he was still voting for him. I thought it was a way of saying I'm the real cop and that's why I'm still voting him.
But I guess I read way to much into it.
Basically zeke said without a counter claim we had to believe geno was a cop. But he was still voting for him. I thought it was a way of saying I'm the real cop and that's why I'm still voting him.
But I guess I read way to much into it.
I personally would want to kill someone like Sawneeks, Hawthorn or even Launch.
If you wanted to go low info I'd go zipped over fate.
If you wanted to go low info I'd go zipped over fate.
jman1954goat
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My person Vote is still Fate don't underestimate him just because he is more new than others.
He is unlikely to be protected
My gut says he is going to play a really good game this game.
I don't know what strategy to take during the day with Fate, I know how to play around Hawthorn and Launch I don't know how to play a Date who is on his A game.
My scum strategy is more about correctly playing around known quantities.
Sawneeks I'm unsure whether I would kill or not.
Zipped is interesting . Definitely low info but I could see his quiet performance as power role.
Blarg is a player we never kill since he can be self destructive.
Leo is a player I would want to Kill. Seems hard to say kill Leo most games.
He is unlikely to be protected
My gut says he is going to play a really good game this game.
I don't know what strategy to take during the day with Fate, I know how to play around Hawthorn and Launch I don't know how to play a Date who is on his A game.
My scum strategy is more about correctly playing around known quantities.
Sawneeks I'm unsure whether I would kill or not.
Zipped is interesting . Definitely low info but I could see his quiet performance as power role.
Blarg is a player we never kill since he can be self destructive.
Leo is a player I would want to Kill. Seems hard to say kill Leo most games.
jman1954goat
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Interested in what EC and Bojack feel.
I don't think the play is to kill good players just because they are good players.
we have to target people who can't get mislynched and players who will target US during the day.
if we find a Good player who is also likely to town read a majority of us we need to keep them alive not just kill them simply because they are good/ have experience.
I don't think the play is to kill good players just because they are good players.
we have to target people who can't get mislynched and players who will target US during the day.
if we find a Good player who is also likely to town read a majority of us we need to keep them alive not just kill them simply because they are good/ have experience.
I'm pretty against Fate kill at this juncture. The more I think about the more launch is the one I want gone. If he doesn't town read me day 1 he likely won't ever and he is good at pushing me.
I think he is also the most likely to be a very vocal town voice going forward.
I think he is also the most likely to be a very vocal town voice going forward.
I think the longer you let strong town voices live the harder it is for us.
No one is lynch proof.
Sorry, no one is elimination proof
jman1954goat
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Do you think doctor would protect there? That's the biggest worry with Launchpad.
Remember I always have Switch target into kill play of we need to Snipe someone likely to be protected.
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But some are harder kills than others and we need to play into setting up easy Day kills especially once we get closer too LyLo
Right now what easy day kills are there? Day 2 might as well be day 1 because there is virtually nothing to go on. Any arguments for people that pushed geno can be made for me. People that didn't can be made for bojack, people that were wishy washy you and EC.
Like what you're saying is fair but doesn't really apply with the state of the game.
We don't even have reads to go off. I'd rather get rid of a strong voice when the game is a blank slate before that voice starts shaping the game.
Like what you're saying is fair but doesn't really apply with the state of the game.
We don't even have reads to go off. I'd rather get rid of a strong voice when the game is a blank slate before that voice starts shaping the game.
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My last comment was more general strategy talk.
like I said I'm talking more about it being important when we Get close to LYLO not this exact moment.
EvilChameleon
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I happen to agree with this, as the good players might not want to get burned on voting me out again, as I will be adamant that I am a vanilla town. Again.
jman1954goat
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Yeah keeping players who have played with you in past games is very important if we want to keep you alive.
I'm on my phone and can't see the full list but I agree with ATP on Launch. They're my number 1 choice just because of the gambit they pulled in the last game, and that scares me. If they get a good role again they won't be scared to use it.
But I also agree with Jman that people like Zeke and Hawthorn should be left alive because they regularly get themselves voted out while town.
But I also agree with Jman that people like Zeke and Hawthorn should be left alive because they regularly get themselves voted out while town.
With the alignment cop dead EC is essentially a goon now
Oh and I'm fine doing the kill. Probably a regular one, no point wasting a shot on it.
I kind of think EC should do the kill since his power seems moot now?
Unless we think there are two alignment cops
jman1954goat
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0% chance. We know second cop is tracker because Bojack has ninja shots. I
There are not 3 cops in this game that's over the top.
The concern with EC is will he be tracked or not? If he is tracked to the body He is Fucked since he plans to claim Vanilla.
(Obviously all of us are pretty Fucked if Tracker catches us.)
Would they track EC though? It's a crapshoot but I think we might be okay.
I just figured if anyone of us gets caught its better its EC who doesn't have a role power
The vanilla town claim worked when he was gonna be checked as vanilla town, now the alignment cop is dead he can claim whatever he wants
jman1954goat
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So EC faction kill to Launchpad
Everyone else do nothing
Is that the way we are leaning?
Everyone else do nothing
Is that the way we are leaning?
I'm fine with that. I'll have a think later if there's anyone better but that's a great start if you ask me.
jman1954goat
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@EvilChameleon .
Ok go ahead and post the Faction kill to Launchpad just so we have something down.
We can just change it later if we reach a new decision.
Ok go ahead and post the Faction kill to Launchpad just so we have something down.
We can just change it later if we reach a new decision.
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
This is my first time as mafia here, it's the same syntax as on Era? So this should work...
Kill: LaunchpadMcQ
Kill: LaunchpadMcQ
Command received
Also for future reference if you want to have fun with the kill commands I'm OK with it. I just have to be able to tell that it is a kill command or if you use a ninja shot it needs to be obvious that it's that one.
I'm still fine with the Launch kill, but reading through I also support what Jman said about Fate. I feel like they can get real dangerous as the game goes on. I've seen them wake up and really go for it in mid to late game.
So while they might not be a N1 kill, they should be on our radar at some point.
So while they might not be a N1 kill, they should be on our radar at some point.
My experience with Fate is he gets misvoted by town. After me and jman he has the most posts and most of them aren't even game related.
I'm just not seeing this threat right now.
I'm just not seeing this threat right now.
But I'm not going to dictate who we kill, if the rest of you would rather kill fate then that should be the kill.
I don't think he's an immediate threat and I'm still fine with Launch.
And like you said, it's really hard to assess who's looking good or bad right now since D1 was such a wash. We don't know what town is going to latch on to. So that should be fun lol
And like you said, it's really hard to assess who's looking good or bad right now since D1 was such a wash. We don't know what town is going to latch on to. So that should be fun lol
jman1954goat
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Night actions lock in less than an hour. Any changes to the Plan?
jman1954goat
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@BoJack Horseman I might start the day focusing on people not on the Geno Vote and putting suspicion on Players with No Vote
Not going to single you out but you do fall in that group so Just giving warning.
Not going to single you out but you do fall in that group so Just giving warning.
That's fine, I'm sure you won't be the only one.
I'm so confused
lol what is even happening
I mean a tracker dying is great regardless
But yeah, I'm confused lol
I guess ours was blocked. Potentially redirected? Guess we have to see.
Yeah and then maybe a vig shot?
What a wild vig if that's the case.
jman1954goat
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Day 2 Begins
7 post up it began I am slow.
7 post up it began I am slow.
jman1954goat
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All thing purple was the Target of the executioner
Hopefully it earns him some town points
Hopefully it earns him some town points
So am I screwed here or does being hunted not necessarily make me scum?
Oh wow, lucky for you ATP.
jman1954goat
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Yeah thinking more about it what does being an enemy mean?
Does anyone have the Lore
I don't think it necessarily makes you scum, but we have to be careful how we go about it.
We can't openly defend you too much and it's up to everyone to decide how they interpret it. I'd likely say it's NAI because it's from a neutral role. Likely randomly chosen.
We can't openly defend you too much and it's up to everyone to decide how they interpret it. I'd likely say it's NAI because it's from a neutral role. Likely randomly chosen.
The character is from wheels of time, apparently an antagonist (I've not read the books)
jman1954goat
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Well good thing he is bad hopefully we spin this as your Town
Padan Fain
Padan Fain is a peddler and Darkfriend from Lugard who made regular visits to the Two Rivers and Emond's Field. He has since become far more than a simple peddler and is a secondary antagonist for most of the series. Fain is pale and skinny with gangly arms. He has a large beak of a nose and...
Yeah, lore wise it describes the character as an antagonist so that's something.
I'm gonna be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to play this
jman1954goat
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Say your Town !!!!!!
I guess all you can do is tell the truth - you didn't know anything about it.
jman1954goat
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Say your role does not mention Vincent at all
jman1954goat
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Like Bojack says Truth you knew nothing about this
I've just realised what Hawthorn's on about. Yeah, that complicates things. The implication by saying VA wins when you're voted out is that you can't be night killed. Hmm...
But then again, there's a vig/second night killer, so it's still possible. But how do you say that without saying you know that?
And to think I wanted to kill launch
jman1954goat
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jman1954goat
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Don't say it at all.
I might reply to it, get some interaction with you, just push against it ever so slightly.
I think it sort of works, if VA had a night kill and wasn't just relying on me being voted out it'd be stronger but there is still some logic there, but honestly I probably won't engage with it much unless conversation steers back that way
jman1954goat
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Sounds fine I will get defensive of my logic making more sense like I usually do.
But Hawthorn and launch seemed to have moved on, I wouldn't give it to much airtime
So either someone saved launch and there are two killing roles, or someone switched launch with one of sneeks and va and there is one other killing role.
Any other possibilities apart from a switch or a heal?
Any other possibilities apart from a switch or a heal?
So a switch would be someone swapped Launch with, say, Sneeks? Meaning Sneeks would become EC's new target?
Is there a role that could redirect EC from Launch to, say, Sneeks?
Is there a role that could redirect EC from Launch to, say, Sneeks?
jman1954goat
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We know for a fact there is a Killing role that is not US thats why I have a Heal.
Sure, thats not what I'm asking though
I dont know enough about mafia to know if there are other roles thst would have resulted in our kill being redirected to someone else
Although I just had a panic flash of hvv3 where there was a neutral Mason pair who received our scum commands and could alter them, which they did.. frequently
jman1954goat
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Could be switch. Launchpad Could be a Town Nexus (LOL)
could be something else Its hard to tell.
jman1954goat
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Launchpad feels good about Both Evil chameleon and Me
2 of us are in his Town top 3
We really sure we want to Kill Him?
2 of us are in his Town top 3
We really sure we want to Kill Him?
Well we have 48 hours before we have to worry about that.
Besides, sneeks was also in my pile of night 1 kills, so I'm still happy.
Besides, sneeks was also in my pile of night 1 kills, so I'm still happy.
jman1954goat
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The sneeks kill is amazing Thank You However made that happen
We don't even need Ninja Kill since tracker is dead
We can have Bojack send his Ninja kills tonight and N3 anyway just to be safe.
EvilChameleon
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Ha, the player we wanted to kill says he feels pretty good about me. Guess that takes him off the list for now.
jman1954goat
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and now my suggested Night Kill has ATP and Me as His top 2 Town LOL
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
jman, I like you leading the charge against me right now, this is good good good.
Rac also said assuming I'm town for now which is good.
I might try and push Hawthorn a little bit
I might try and push Hawthorn a little bit
jman1954goat
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tossing some shade but I also have the excuse already set up for why I will end Up Not Voting you.
jman1954goat
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Besides ATP getting some unnecessary Spotlight things seem to be going pretty well.
Yeah atm things are looking okay, Leo also town reading ec
EvilChameleon
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"If anything, his attitude here seems pretty in line with his town self, and i think he would have more of a hard time adjusting his play if he rolled scum. It's still very early in the game, though."
Beautiful.
Beautiful.
I'm town reading launch and given jman a light town read so far
I feel like I need interact more with ec and bojack
I feel like I need interact more with ec and bojack
It would help if I posted more lol
I'm rereading the thread to find comments to latch onto. So feel free to prod me when I get round to posting my thoughts.
I'm rereading the thread to find comments to latch onto. So feel free to prod me when I get round to posting my thoughts.
I was thinking of posting a light reads list and basically putting you in null with a bunch of others that haven't been as active.
I wouldn't blame you, go for it.
Maybe we should kill nin tonight, he's starting to annoy me already
(Love you nin :p)
(Love you nin :p)
I don't think I've ever played with nin, but I get the sense they have a strong BS meter.
Though we'll see if jman and EC have a different suggestion since ours went so badly on N1 lol
Though we'll see if jman and EC have a different suggestion since ours went so badly on N1 lol
Leo's onto you jman :p