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anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
So it seems my abilities are to balance one another. The sneaky hammer is a reason for keeping me alive, while the blackout is a great argument for me being dead, especially if we can sow FUD regarding neutrals, right? I suppose the hammer is a one-trick pony in that people will pick up on the mechanic once it happens unless we can cause confusion there. Or do we try to avoid anyone nearing majority lock to hide the ability?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Ooooh that’s a fun roll. I think the best play is to try to get you on the popular wagons while me and Neeks try to hang out on another one to avoid looking like it’s us doing it. Anyway I’m just a Godfather. No one ever cop checks me for some reason so I feel like this won’t be too useful. Excited to be teamed with you Anex! Enjoy your first scum game.
Welcome TheChuggernaut,
You are Sarah Wilder the Godfather.
You are aligned with the Mafia.
You are teamed with:
Anexanhume
Sawneeks
Another time loop? Not again... time to end this. Each day AFTER day one, one member of the mafia can submit a day kill by sending the gamerunner the command KILL: (NAME). As a Godfather, you will scan as town for any alignment checks. You also have the ability to vote.
You win when you control 50% of the vote, and nothing can change this.
Welcome TheChuggernaut,
You are Sarah Wilder the Godfather.
You are aligned with the Mafia.
You are teamed with:
Anexanhume
Sawneeks
Another time loop? Not again... time to end this. Each day AFTER day one, one member of the mafia can submit a day kill by sending the gamerunner the command KILL: (NAME). As a Godfather, you will scan as town for any alignment checks. You also have the ability to vote.
You win when you control 50% of the vote, and nothing can change this.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Nat if Anex is in the final 3 will his power stop working. Nothing in there that says it will but just wanted to double check
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Oh and just because he’ll be kind of annoying to deal with if he starts tunneling, we should try to just town read Zeke and avoid engaging with him as much as possible and hopefully he’ll end up tunneling someone else and then we can off him
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I'm glad to be teamed with two very experienced players!
Is this a common ability seen on scum? When you say that you and Neeks will hang out on another vote to avoid being suggested as the culprit, town will be assuming that a hammerer is in play and they should specifically look off wagon for the culprit if the anonymous hammer drops?
If I anonymously hammer one of you, would that create any doubt about whether a hammerer is in play or it could be a town-aligned role?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It will keep working, but remember that it won’t trigger on someone he’s already voting for.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
So if I no vote, I'm essentially doubling the vote of whoever votes first with an instant hammer. That could be very interesting.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
oh i read your role wrong and thought it was who you were voting for lmao. as far as common, i've seen this in another bastard game, but it wasn't the quite the same, so i think they'll have trouble figuring it out
Sawneeks
little green dog
also re; hammer we need to be a tad careful on that one when it comes to bussing. since it hits everybody you aren't voting for then town will eventually figure out something is up with it if we repeatedly get close to hammers. being on one of us means you won't hammer us and that's something town could pick up on and help narrow it down.
don't really think there is much we can do about it, sadly. we just have to hope this isn't a hammer heavy game. honestly my ideal would be to never hammer until the last day and then you just get a townie (or one of us) to misvote and we win lol. but that's a long term goal and dependant on the wild beast that is town.
also up for suggestions with my ability. use it early or save it?
don't really think there is much we can do about it, sadly. we just have to hope this isn't a hammer heavy game. honestly my ideal would be to never hammer until the last day and then you just get a townie (or one of us) to misvote and we win lol. but that's a long term goal and dependant on the wild beast that is town.
also up for suggestions with my ability. use it early or save it?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
where's the horse from lmao
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
also role madness means we got to come up with a fake role to claim 
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
we can go hog wild and just steal the Zeke reflector play from that one game if we end up in a bad spot. they'll never see it coming. surely we wouldn't do it twice
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
also i always subscribe to using abilities sooner rather than later, because using it suboptimally early is better than not using it because you're dead, but we'll see where we're at after the first day. if you're feeling confident about being able to hang in there we can hold onto it
Sawneeks
little green dog
nadia is the main character lol. oh boy. uuuhhhhhhh not sure what to fakeclaim yet since we dont know what the hell town has. i may just wait and pray we dont need it day 1
what's the reflector play?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I forgot which game but Zeke killed his scum buddy, Bojack, claimed he was reflector and everyone decided to just not vote him out
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I am guessing (from google), it could be from Netflix's Horse Girl? There seems to be a timeloop element in the plot explanations I'm seeing. I think we could make that explanation work. It is role madness and a bastard game, after all.
Well since both my abilities are essentially passive, I'd rather not roll them out early on :)
Since it's a bastard, role madness game, I don't think we'll have to sell the idea that there are neutrals very hard for my death mechanic to work. I just can't be the ones to sow those seeds.
I would hope that we could spin avoiding a hammer as a town thing to do so as to keep that one under wraps.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I'm having trouble imagining an exact scenario where the black hat ability is of considerable benefit to us. Maybe there's neutrals with some weird after-death effects we could obscure?
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Thanks.
I think we should lead with this claim. It's so funny on its face that a thing people will buy it implicitly as innocuous. Maybe they'd read it as neutral aligned though?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I have to imagine town is going to have some roles that give more information upon death, and that’s our way to counter it.
Also now that I’m thinking about it maybe the best option is to stack with Anex and let town get nervous about the people on the other vote?
Also now that I’m thinking about it maybe the best option is to stack with Anex and let town get nervous about the people on the other vote?
Sawneeks
little green dog
lol it's possible. zeke might point it out tho
yeah i'd worry about town taking it as neutral aligned if it's claimed right at the start. later on it can be played off as whatever we decide to claim it as.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
OH I JUST HAD AN IDEA.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Let’s hold onto the double shot. If things start getting dicey at all we can use it to take out one of us and claim vig or something. Even if there’s another one we can swing it as the game probably having a lot of killing roles because otherwise it’ll move kind of slow.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
They will be completely removed. Finito.
Sawneeks
little green dog
"You win when you control 50% of the vote, and nothing can change this"
Unless there is some bastardy bullshit going on this is going to be a long game lol. Maybe there's some extra killer or mechanic that can kill townies permanently as well, at least I'm hoping for it. Or a lot of intertownie kills. I don't think Nat would make invulnerable zombie townies so let's hope they get another penalty...
Unless there is some bastardy bullshit going on this is going to be a long game lol. Maybe there's some extra killer or mechanic that can kill townies permanently as well, at least I'm hoping for it. Or a lot of intertownie kills. I don't think Nat would make invulnerable zombie townies so let's hope they get another penalty...
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I’m on board with the idea. Wouldn’t it be easy to explain away as a consequence of losing a scum player? Especially if I’m taken out first, then no role PMs are shared
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
if the day continues on like this and we all skate by i think we should just off zeke early tomorrow. him being this quiet scares me
Sawneeks
little green dog
hopefully it won't even come to that but if it happens i'll take the shot at you. your sacrifice won't be in vain ;;I’m on board with the idea. Wouldn’t it be easy to explain away as a consequence of losing a scum player? Especially if I’m taken out first, then no role PMs are shared
yeahhh, same. it might just be because of day 1 but he usually finds something to hone in on.
thankfully the other townies i was a bit worried about are going against the towncore lol. silly town
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
See no one ever wants to cop check me. I have no idea why lol
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I thought you’d have to kill Hedin since he jokes you would in the OT
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I know I can't believe we have to do them like this :mothhands:
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
man if i was town i would be going after zeke hard right now lol. he's dropping some weak shit
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
There will be no posting of any kind during the twilight phase.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
what about the post office i'm going to use send you a very nice letter in the mail
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Chuggernaut You have received a double vote for the remainder of this phase.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
neat
Sawneeks
little green dog
you should be good with just the one vote for now.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Think I’m going to throw the double vote on Zeke. Also we should still kill Zeke early tomorrow, especially with this Fran tunnel
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Yeah I think it’s hands off now.
Sawneeks
little green dog
even if he '''dies''' by being voted out?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Guess we should probably what getting voted out looks like before we commit to anything, but do y’all have anyone you would rather kill?
Sawneeks
little green dog
not really since we dont know what being voted out does to you. if it removes their PR then it makes zeke an easier problem to deal with if he just sticks to Fran.
I'd go PR hunting. maybe hedin since he is quiet and could be hiding something. heeleus for being too radical, melon is a good quiet kill but i think we can miskill later, donnie will eventually be an issue, or maybe even Mr. Town Fran himself.
would not go for nin since he likely isn't lying about hitting back
I'd go PR hunting. maybe hedin since he is quiet and could be hiding something. heeleus for being too radical, melon is a good quiet kill but i think we can miskill later, donnie will eventually be an issue, or maybe even Mr. Town Fran himself.
would not go for nin since he likely isn't lying about hitting back
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Yeah I want to stay away from nin as much as possible. I want to stay away from Fran for a bit if Zeke ends up being the vote today. Heeleus and Hedin both seem like good choices. Think we can manage Donnie for a bit longer
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
nin is also dominating the post count. Have to consider what it would do to the balance of thread discourse, especially those who have been argumentative with other town.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Hedin would be funny simply because he said you can kill him in the OT thread.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Nat can I switch this double vote over to someone else? Probably should have asked before I put it down lmao
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
BP lmao
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
LOL and all the easy votes piling on him now. One of the more entertaining day 1s.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
A day vig with the one double kill? That could work.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
So yeah I’m going to say let’s go Ael
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Actually no! Hedin. Going to try to spin some weird shit with the no voters and the hammer
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
If everyone is cool on that let’s go ahead and do that as soon as possible. You want to do the honors Anex?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Okay actually how do y’all feel about Vere
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Ooooh gossip time
Sawneeks
little green dog
whatchu thinking about vere?
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
If you all are cool with it I think that might be a good choice. think we can make a TMI argument for scum Hedin
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I’m ok with any of those options. Sorry I’ve been absent today, dealing with several things. I’ll catch up and check in the thread tonight.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Good with me. If we had to choose, I’m the logical first elimination anyway.
Sawneeks
little green dog
@anexanhume whenever you want to submit the kill, go for it. We have all day phase lol.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Vere? I just do [ highlight ] Kill: Vere [ /highlight ] ?
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Ok, I’m going to give it a cool down period since I just started posting in the thread.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Anex if you're around i would go ahead and do the thing. going to be posting at the same time but i'm not really bothered by that
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Anex i'mma do it for you
kill: Vere
kill: Vere
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I fell asleep lol
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Have we thought about what conditions in which we want to deploy the double kill, if any?
Was thinking it would be funny to kill the leading vote today and hold onto that vig claim, but a NK tomorrow would be problematic.
Was thinking it would be funny to kill the leading vote today and hold onto that vig claim, but a NK tomorrow would be problematic.
Sawneeks
little green dog
We might be able to take advantage of the two shot and take out a confirmed townie + an uncomfirmed one. I think we should be looking for PRs since there is a doctor likely around, that double vote giver, and whatever else.
think we can remove Fran from the kill pool for now. He may be a problem later on but his role isn't one to worry about.
think we can remove Fran from the kill pool for now. He may be a problem later on but his role isn't one to worry about.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
i've been considering if we want to do the Anex kill still but I dunno if y'all still want to go that road. Feel like a combination of me and Neeks both getting in a back and forth with Anex with Neeks looking like she's on the fence before taking the shot would buy us town cred until end game. We could kill someone else around the same time to make it look like it was an attempt to throw town off. My big worry is that flips are going to start having info in them like "you flip with the amount of scum who voted for you" or something, so it might be good to shut it down before it becomes a problem, but we don't have to do this if y'all aren't cool with it. Don't want to ask you to die