Russian Doll |Scum Chat|

[Sawneeks]

no, im worried about the same thing. with town not having traditional night roles they are going to need some wacky stuff to make up for it and that could easily be one.

i'm still not against the anex kill but im worried that hedin would accuse you of bussing, chuggs. he's already caught the connection between you two. this would be a problem whenever he flips regardless but, still. a road we don't need to go down early.

i think we definitely keep that idea in our back pocket and play it by ear. for now we're doing pretty good and if we can keep up being out of the spotlight i don't think we even have to make that kill and just kill 2 townies. i also dont have a MYLO/LYLO restriction on the kill so if we save it to end game we could just use it and win :p

 

[Chuggernaut]

Yeah I'm going to have to get real loud about it, if I want to make it look convincing. I think I've drawn enough connections to him that if he doesn't go hard there it's going to look worse for him than me. it's not a today plan either way. Yeah it would be nice to be able to pull it out in MYLO/LYLO

 

[Sawneeks]

Mhmm, we got time.

btw, how was spiderman?

 

[anexanhume]

I’m all for it. With this being role madness and bastard, it won’t be hard to imagine rabbit holes they’ll jump through to explain stuff while leaving you both Town. Neeks already getting townread by most.

 

[anexanhume]

Ok, here’s where my head is at. Since the hammer kicked in yesterday, town is expecting it again today. If I make sure I’m on the lead wagon, it doesn’t happen. Then, either I or one of you suggest that hammer must have been off wagon on Zeke. Either we make town guess whether I’m spinning a gambit, or one of you gets some potential town cred? If we wait until tomorrow, the list of people that were off wagon on Zeke and D2 vote probably gets too small for us to milk it with maybe a misvote or two.

 

[anexanhume]

And maybe we can tease out some PRs in that list?

 

[Sawneeks]

we could also push it as a targeted hammer, X-shot, etc. and make it seem not a constant threat.

 

[Sawneeks]

btw, starting next day phase i'ma be busy with holiday stuff. if it gets bad enough i'll sub out but i should be able to carve out enough time for this.

gonna try and check in more often just in case we want to use the double kill but if i'm not here for whatever reason im fine if one of you two submit the command for me.

 

[anexanhume]

Do we want to use our second on Muffin?

 

[anexanhume]

Do @ work here? @Chuggernaut @Sawneeks

 

[Chuggernaut]

Nah let’s hold off. We can off him first thing tomorrow

 

[Chuggernaut]

ehhhh actually slightly worried about a doctor. Maybe it's best to burn this shot here

 

[Chuggernaut]

Going to wait for Neeks to check in, but if she wants to do it, I'm alright with it

 

[Sawneeks]

What did muffin claim?

 

[Sawneeks]

Oh he claimed cop. Sorry muffin friend. :'<

Kill: Muffin

 

[Natiko]

Command received

 

[Sawneeks]

Threat eliminated. Now I slink back into the shadows

 

[Chuggernaut]

even cop huh

 

[anexanhume]

even cop huh

Well, if you make it through today and your wagon inspires odd cop to check you, we’re golden.

 

[Sawneeks]

so i have a bullshit theory

i think Zipped is a King or something. we kill him, we win. it's why he can't vote, why zeke suddenly jumped to his defense (he learned the truth upon death). it sucks we can't kill today because I'd say we shoot him.

might try and push him last minute to see what happens.

 

[Chuggernaut]

If this looks inevitable I’m claiming odd night cop

 

[Chuggernaut]

er day

 

[Sawneeks]

hold out for as long as you can, zeke is just being loud.

 

[anexanhume]

It’s possible odd day cop has/will scan you and you’ll come back town, then even if you’re voted, we can try pushing the cop as scum vouching for you.

 

[anexanhume]

How does King work? It’s not in the usual roles list.

Also, I asked if our 50% control could be affected by people that can’t vote. I was told it’s by the number of people in the game, so I guess Zipped can vote, but chooses not to, possibly due to role conditions?

 

[Chuggernaut]

It’s okay Donnie. We don’t understand how we win either

 

[anexanhume]

Zipped finally voted. If the Chuggs wagon builds, should I hop on and then maybe we can accuse zipped of being hammerer?

 

[Sawneeks]

How does King work? It’s not in the usual roles list.

Also, I asked if our 50% control could be affected by people that can’t vote. I was told it’s by the number of people in the game, so I guess Zipped can vote, but chooses not to, possibly due to role conditions?

I may be getting the name wrong but it's a role that, when it dies, Scum automatically win. It's considered extremely bastard and we've only ever had the role once in a modified fashion.

however now that zipped can vote i may be wrong :u

 

[Chuggernaut]

I’m going to laugh so hard if this is just Zipped not really paying attention

 

[Chuggernaut]

I’m going to keep defending LP’s vote. I’m going to green check Hedin on the way out unless anyone objects. You can have fun with that

 

[Sawneeks]

I’m going to laugh so hard if this is just Zipped not really paying attention

same ( ._.)

same if that's why LP voted like that. at least we'd get a for sure miskill afterwards but, damn.

 

[Sawneeks]

i still think you should hold on for as long as possible though. if monkey can survive a red check, you can survive this.

 

[Chuggernaut]

yeah i'm going to be spinning some hot WIFOM shit on the way out and we can have some back and forth here to try to create some distance

 

[Sawneeks]

yes, fran. let's go LP over chuggs. yessssss

 

[anexanhume]

Well I’m pretty much screwed now too. No way I can vote LP and not be next. You want me to build a case against me Neeks?

 

[Sawneeks]

RIP chuggs. there was no case against you and it was bullshit. we will avenge you o7

 

[Sawneeks]

Well I’m pretty much screwed now too. No way I can vote LP and not be next. You want me to build a case against me Neeks?

let me catch up and read before we decide.

any feelings on who to kill today?

 

[anexanhume]

RIP chuggs. there was no case against you and it was bullshit. we will avenge you o7

It was, but that’s the risk any prominent player runs.

 

[anexanhume]

let me catch up and read before we decide.

any feelings on who to kill today?

The fact that we have to kill while voting really throws me off. I don’t necessarily see any good candidates to cause confusion with the current theories out there.
Do you suspect any PRs?

 

[Sawneeks]

The fact that we have to kill while voting really throws me off. I don’t necessarily see any good candidates to cause confusion with the current theories out there.
Do you suspect any PRs?

Yeah, it's messing me up too since town can change so much.

The fact we may now have a cult running around really mucks it up too. I'm half tempted to still say go for Zipped since im convinced he is the Cult Leader but I kinda want to let them stick around for a bit and help thin out town. Right now I'm not sure how we win given the PoE from dead town and now a cult to back it all up. We kinda got the short end of the stick here.

But I do want to reread Zipped and see if I can find hints on whatever Donnie saw. I have a feeling Donnie is a VERY good PR of some kind but I'm not convinced yet, especially since he is now getting flak.

lemme think

 

[Sawneeks]

the spirit of chuggs keeps whispering in my ear and telling me to murder zeke. but the potential for town to eat itself alive on cult fears is too strong.

melon seems pretty lock town after chuggs' flip. we might need to shoot there depending on how this LP/Melon situation goes.

also gonna start slowly building up pressure on you, anex. it's going to dwindle because of the hammer but im hoping to keep you alive a bit longer.

 

[Sawneeks]

Hm, maybe we just kill fran. he IS confirmed town but...gossip is a boring PR to murder.

everyone else is now suspect though....and i dont want to help town too much with this possible cult thing.

nin, maybe?

 

[anexanhume]

Yeah a Fran kill doesn’t make sense to me. A Donnie one could make sense.

Or target someone that was hard on melon earlier to emphasize the mason/lovers thing?

Zeke seems enamored by the cult thing.

If zipped is cult leader and we murder him, cult goes away? Might it explain why he wasn’t voting?

 

[Sawneeks]

Nah, murdering a cult leader wouldn't make the cult go away. It's too unbalanced that way. At most it would take away the person who started 'spreading' the cult.

Donnie only makes sense right now from a PR standpoint. I'm wondering if he got recruited to a chat or something since Fran, too, seems to be confirming the 'Zipped is town' narrative.

Too many pieces and not nearly enough information to make good choices.

 

[Sawneeks]

this is a very weird feeling to be scum and looking at this game like im blind. normally it's just paranoia but this game feels like all the pieces are being kept from us lol.

 

[Sawneeks]

hell, maybe we should just kill zipped since no one wants to touch him with a 10 foot pole.

thoughts?

 

[anexanhume]

Why not? Maybe the chaos will work in our favor.

This is a hell of a first scum game for me LOL.

Most of my bewilderment in the main thread is genuine.

 

[anexanhume]

I think the crux is that there’s a lot of suspicion near me and almost 0 toward you. There’s no balance to upset there as it stands. By killing anyone we can stave off the interest in me for a day at most I’d wager.

 

[Sawneeks]

This definitely seems like a 'trial by fire' first scum game lol. Yeah I think at most we can buy you a day. More if this cult is actually real. Hell, if LP doesnt get voted out today maybe we can extend your stay.

For Zipped I think we can give it a bit more time before making the call - either in a couple hours or even 12+ hrs from now. nin still hasn't checked in yet and it doesn't seem like people are ready to turbo at a moments notice. That said, I am going to be out tomorrow doing Xmas family stuff so if I'm not here to submit the kill you are more than welcome to submit it.

 

[anexanhume]

For zipped or for whomever? Either way, I don’t see how it helps us to forego a kill here.

 

[Sawneeks]

For Zipped. Though if someone claims something great then you are more than welcome to change it.

Gonna leave it be for the night. When I get up tomorrow I may submit the kill.

 

[Sawneeks]

Kill: Zippedpinhead

Pretty sure Nat is asleep so eh, why not. Hopefully it's interesting.

 

[anexanhume]

With any luck he flips cult and that freaks people out

 

[Natiko]

Kill: Zippedpinhead

Pretty sure Nat is asleep so eh, why not. Hopefully it's interesting.

Command received

 

[anexanhume]

Ok now I’m having fun with the cult shenanigans. I may yet survive today. It’s also opening the door to some potential fake claims.

 

[Sawneeks]

You love to see it

 

[Sawneeks]

Ok now I’m having fun with the cult shenanigans. I may yet survive today. It’s also opening the door to some potential fake claims.

Careful with focusing too much on cult not enough on scum. Town can easily point to that as something that makes you scum.

But this revelation is great. It now adds in an extra layer for us to hide and just makes everything chaotic and puts everyone in doubt. Best thing that could have happened.

 

[anexanhume]

Careful with focusing too much on cult not enough on scum. Town can easily point to that as something that makes you scum.

But this revelation is great. It now adds in an extra layer for us to hide and just makes everything chaotic and puts everyone in doubt. Best thing that could have happened.

Well now it’s proving the opposite as Hedin thinks I’m cult LOL. If we could actually find cult today, it might buy me an extra day.

 

[Sawneeks]

I'm hoping they go for Donnie for whatever weird reason Zeke seems to have.

Sorry I'm not around to help you out with this lack of turbo nonsense. Hoping you pull through

 

[Sawneeks]

Whelp, rip anex.

You should open wolf it's fun lol

 

[Sawneeks]

kill: Donnie

Thanks for reminding me to submit a kill, town.

 

[Natiko]

Command received

 

[Natiko]

FYI I will RNG a kill if they ever insta turbo out of fairness.

 

[Sawneeks]

Legit would have turboed without submitting anything lol

 

[Sawneeks]

FYI I will RNG a kill if they ever insta turbo out of fairness.

RNGs the kill

It picks nin

 

[Natiko]

Live by the RNG, die by the RNG.

 

[Sawneeks]

God damn it town I would've said to wait here regardless of my alignment you dummies. If this kills me I'ma be mad.

 

[Sawneeks]

Day 6,

Dear comrades, I hope your souls are finally at rest after out hellish descent into the unknown. The undead abominations still plague the land and the living seem all too ready to accept their leadership. For their sake and our own I will rally against them to provide a light in these dark times.

Pray for me, friends, for I do not not how to kill that which cannot die.

Sincerely, Sneeks

 

[Sawneeks]

Sawneeks - sole survivor
Fran
nin
Aeleus
The Wizard
MrHedin
Lone_Prodigy
melonrabbit
EzekelRAGE - dead town walking

7 Townies still alive, 1 Confirmed Zombie Townie.

Even if I killed off every single Zombie Townie that came my way, I would lose. A Town Cult means they trust eachother and who knows how big they are. Melon/LP aren't going for eachother on that mason/lovers claim so they can't be voted out. Even if I played the perfect Scum game I would lose due to PoE.

I'm honestly really curious to see the full design after this is said and done because I currently don't see scum ever winning this game. Not going to harp on design since I don't see the full picture here but...

really just kinda struggling for time until i eventually die....








im gonna claim vig who shot zipped lmao

 

[Sawneeks]

that slip was entirely unintentional but ima roll with it. let's see what i can get away with.

 

[Sawneeks]

heck i forgot about fran's gossip chat

 

[Sawneeks]

there is a large urge to humor zeke and just shoot wizard here. for memes

 

[Sawneeks]

town i've sworn up and down that zeke is cult and i havent 'shot' him yet nor did i unveil my shot count, why do you think that is?

*whispers* it's because im claiming 1-shot

 

[Sawneeks]

to shoot fran since he's cleared so many? but he would keep me alive today.

to shoot zeke since he's confirmed town and a menace to scum lives? but what if he is still BP?

to shoot melon for being too damn townie for that chuggs vote?

decisions, decisions.

 

[Sawneeks]

Reallllyyy divided between Fran and Zeke. I think I have to hit one of the two confirmed people or else it's sus.

really it's who I want to help at this point. Do I help cult by taking out Fran or hit Zeke and hope he is cult.

 

[Sawneeks]

kill: EzekelRAGE

Rather have a helping hand with town and my boy Donnie than take out Fran. At worst his BP is gone now and I take him out tomorrow after wizard dies. At best he dies today.

 

[Sawneeks]

Gonna keep trying to play this sloppy and hope that saves me a bit too. My lack of enthusiasm might really do me in though, it's hard to put in hours of this knowing no way out.

 

[Natiko]

Command received

 

[Sawneeks]

Yeah figures. Oh well, dead tomorrow