Danganronpa 2 Mafia Thread - Nezumi Castle

[EzekelRAGE]

Donnie is a gossip but he also is a motivator, meaning he adds a shot back to anyone with limited shot abilities, he can only motivate someone who is in gossip chat with him

Thinking about this............is he able to tell if his motivate worked or not?I remember we had a motivator in the past that shot got returned if person couldnt get the extra shot.

I ask because if I dont shoot someone N2 and he motivates me and he gets his shot back, could be awkward.

 

[Sorian]

Thinking about this............is he able to tell if his motivate worked or not?I remember we had a motivator in the past that shot got returned if person couldnt get the extra shot.

I ask because if I dont shoot someone N2 and he motivates me and he gets his shot back, could be awkward.

The motivate would go off before your kill anyway so whether you shoot or not, if he can't overcap you then it's going to fail. He is going to assume he was roleblocked well before he guesses you haven't used a shot yet. I told him you were probably going to kill Vere and Vere came up as an extra kill.

 

[Sorian]

It changes the game state a little bit but it's not terrible

 

[EzekelRAGE]

ahh thought motivator would be last

 

[Sorian]

ahh thought motivator would be last

It could be, Fanto could do whatever but I wouldn’t personally put it after kills. I would also just let it over cap though

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I'm going to trust Sorian at this point (famous last words)

 

[EzekelRAGE]

This is such a bad argument I can’t wrap my head around if it’s being done in good faith. Unless the mafia team is directly responsible for Vere and ATP’s death they would never openly claim vig for the kill that wasn’t theirs. At absolute best it would make them a target for a neutral killer, at worst it gets them immediately counterclaimed by an actual vig. Wtf

 

[Sorian]

I think if we send a message to Zook telling him that Natiko is scum, we will have a wild day 3. Just something to keep in mind lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Sounds like it could be fun

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Deception.........an outrage.........disgrace..............for shame.........................evil as plain as the scar on his face

Havent watched this in like 20 years but still remember this. They song that hell out of this and it was funny as hell lol.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I guess we should care about who faddy protected, assuming he didnt target me or Sorian?

 

[Sorian]

I really don't think Faddy dropped who he protected so it's kind of a mystery.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Think ima chill here for the rest of the day

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Town right now with mafia watching outta the drama

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Like get in my shoes, if someone guesses your flavor out of nowhere wouldn't you be suspicious of what might be at play?

Yes I would Geno and I would side with you...................but unfortunately I'm scum...............so letting this play out

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Look at Zook tomorrow. Peace.

This combined with Zook getting a msg saying Nat is not town AND Geno guessing Nat was an executioner or something could be fun

 

[Sorian]

I thought there was another hour lmao, came to sit down and saw the day was over. Oh well, works out anyway.

 

[Sorian]

I assume Donnie will grab you, let him know that I was off an hour on day end, didn't mean to not be present but I wouldn't have moved my vote. Also that I'm annoyed and it must be Fate then.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

probably gonna be bae

T_T

 

[nin1000]

Fuck. I came in too late thinking end of day was an hour later.

Town ate each other so it's okay lol

 

[nin1000]

As much as I want to send took a message it kinda messes with my initial plan though.

How am I going to use the information that Nat is a bully then :(


If both of you disagree though and say: "naw fam, message Zook saying that Nat is mafia is the better idea" i will do it.

 

[Sorian]

As much as I want to send took a message it kinda messes with my initial plan though.

How am I going to use the information that Nat is a bully then :(


If both of you disagree though and say: "naw fam, message Zook saying that Nat is mafia is the better idea" i will do it.

I think we get a Zook lynch out of it instead of a Natiko lynch tbh.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Nvm, looks like it is me. So will give Donnie that msg Sorian. Anything I need to know other than I shot Vere n1(cuz of you) and I myself wanted to shoot Geno? Also dont mention anything about a potential BG claim from you.

 

[Sorian]

We also discussed shooting Faddy for like 2 seconds but changed our minds. He knows I have a passive role of some sort but doesn't know what it is. You do know what my role is but yeah no reason to share.

Tell him that WSD messaged me at the end of N1 to make a town core and I coded her to message Donnie at the end of N2 so that we can be sure she is a multi-shot messanger which would mean she's likely not scum.

 

[Sorian]

He to all of that, thinking of Bae for some reason.

 

[Sorian]

But it was WSD that is the messanger.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So what's the plan for tonight?
Sorian kills ???
I kill ???
Nin lies to Zook?

 

[Sorian]

I think nin definitely lies, it doesn't need to be to Zook about Natiko but I think that one will trigger some good effects. I think Zeke uses out regular mafia kill and holds a vig kill, if we see two kills again tonight there is auto heat on you Zeke for being a serial killer. That leaves me either switching or using my aesthetic, so probably the aesthetic on.....idk yet

 

[Sorian]

So we should keep Donnie, WSD, and Bae alive since they are all deep pockets. If we do the plan then that means keeping Zook and Natiko. Fate needs to be alive lol pretty slim pickings after that, we could kill Zipped? Am I missing someone else? L_P is possible too but L_P has some heat, Zipped doesn’t.

 

[Sorian]

I kind of want to make nin untargetable?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

You missin Bae and Jman

Of nin/lp/zipped(the 3 votes I picked from the malus train), Donnie thinks Nin is scum and doesnt think LP/Nin are teamed. Liked Zipped.

Donnie may invite WSD to chat 2mrw or reinvite you/me.

Donnie feels that bae was trying to defer the geno vote to you/sorian so she wouldnt be blamed.

I think zipped can be pushed to be a misvote more than LP.

Kill Bae Jman or LP? Killing LP could make Nin look worse for Donnie, he thinks there is scum between the two.

Of Bae and Jman, I would say Jman would be the harder misvote, so better to kill him maybe?

 

[Sorian]

Jman could be a good one, I did forget him, Bae was in my do not kill list, I like her living in my pocket.

 

[Sorian]

Actually jman is probably the best kill, he’s town read and hasn’t formed any hard hitting opinions

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kill: Jman

 

[Sorian]

Asceticize: nin
For now

 

[Fanto]

Commands received.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

As much as I want to send took a message it kinda messes with my initial plan though.

How am I going to use the information that Nat is a bully then :(


If both of you disagree though and say: "naw fam, message Zook saying that Nat is mafia is the better idea" i will do it.

I think the msg/lie route is the best way to go.

How would you use the role info for Nat?

 

[nin1000]

Okay just to check in before j send in the command.

I tell Zook that Natiko is mafia correct ?

 

[nin1000]

I mean it makes the most sense to use zook show ill therefore scream natikos name and make some.noise for us.

In regards to L_P, i will handle him and can. He is thankfully not someone who posts that much and that will help my case. I will try and defend myself against him and Donnie.


Donnie will be a harder nut to crack but nothing impossible

 

[Sorian]

I think lying to someone newer is the best bet. We've seen this role before (and I'm probably going to point that out since I was one of the ones baited by it) but if Zook presents the information incorrectly then it could spiral out of control. Natiko's bully information is fun to have on paper but I think it backfires on us if you try to claim a role cop of some sort, it's such a scum aligned role.

 

[nin1000]

Lie: Zookfoodle, Natiko

lets do this

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Donnie is willing to look closer at Bae if/When WSD turns out to be town.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So I told Donnie to leave a ".." before the name of a possible target of who he wants to shoot.

 

[Sorian]

Tell him that I still think Bae is town, I’ve played with her before and this is her town game. She would have been way more stressed and mad if she had rolled scum again because her long break last time was because she rolled scum 4-5 times in a row.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Alright will let him know.

He wants to know what he should mention to WSD? Confident we are not scum OR go more in depth on it with my powers etc.

Donnie thinks both of us are clearly not scum because one of us wouldve tailored him N1 for the claim.

 

[Sorian]

If WSD gets a message through then that’s likely not scum because why would scum have a multi shot messenger so Donnie can share whatever he wants imo, I’d definitely at least tell WSD about the network of 4 of us, I’m fine if he wants to share more past that about the vig or motivate or whatever

 

[Fanto]

Commands received.

 

[nin1000]

Commands received.

Anything yo want to say to us ?

 

[nin1000]

The emojis are not supported :(

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So it seems someone switched me and donnie last night, I got this msg from wsd

You have received a message:
"This is WSD. I messaged Sorian D1 and he indicated (by misspelling the word 'trust" - #876) that I should message you tonight to form a town core away from scum eyes - an Illuminati, as he put it. If there is anyone you think we should include, let me know in the same way - it doesn't stand out but those who know will pick it up. I breadcrumbed my role early on D1 - a messenger/mailman raises the mailbox flag (#146) when he delivers (#300) a letter."

 

[nin1000]

So it seems someone switched me and donnie last night, I got this msg from wsd

You have received a message:
"This is WSD. I messaged Sorian D1 and he indicated (by misspelling the word 'trust" - #876) that I should message you tonight to form a town core away from scum eyes - an Illuminati, as he put it. If there is anyone you think we should include, let me know in the same way - it doesn't stand out but those who know will pick it up. I breadcrumbed my role early on D1 - a messenger/mailman raises the mailbox flag (#146) when he delivers (#300) a letter."

This is getting better by the day.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

hmmm..........i told donnie to truffleshuffle to confirm he got a msg from WSD. Now I need to code a msg to him saying what happened last night................

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Will not be voting for Sorian, Donnie, or WSD today.

Side Note - Me and Donnie's interactions are a nice switch from our previous game. I will truffle shuffle for you Donnie.
*truffleshuffle*

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Sorian hasnt posted since actions locked............

 

[Sorian]

I’m alive, I was napping lol

 

[Sorian]

Did you get motivated?

 

[Sorian]

Also yeah, just had to make sure I said nothing about you in that post so you must have gotten switched

 

[EzekelRAGE]

No I didnt get motivated

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Damn, if it was a switch last night couldve went badly for us if they chose jman instead lol

 

[Fanto]

No I didnt get motivated

Check your PMs again

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Sorian just now seeing your tag......................did you make Archer Mafia or is that role referencing another game?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Check your PMs again

I stand corrected



So WSD was redirected and not a switch between me and Donnie.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Someone tried to kill me

 

[Sorian]

Sorian just now seeing your tag......................did you make Archer Mafia or is that role referencing another game?

Phoenix Wright Mafia

I stand corrected



So WSD was redirected and not a switch between me and Donnie.

It’s possible that because Donnie can only motivate the person in his chat, it can’t be affected by switcher.

Someone tried to kill me

How do you know this part?

 

[nin1000]

Wait what ? Need more info zeke

 

[Sorian]

Zeke dropping that with no follow up is the worst lol I’m trying to form plans over here

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Phoenix Wright Mafia

Ahh yea, that's the one I meant. One of my first game that taught a hard lesson about giving cops free passes lol.

It’s possible that because Donnie can only motivate the person in his chat, it can’t be affected by switcher.

Hmm.........so Donnie stuff is more of an "activate" instead of a target. So:
1. WSD was redirected on to me
or
2. Me and Donnie were switched.

How do you know this part?

Whoever has the redirection power wanted me to be targeted/killed. Either they thought WSD was the scumkiller or that townread Donnie was the kill target and wanted to save him.

 

[Sorian]

Lol ok so nothing concrete :P

And the moral of this game will be town cores are corrupt

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Think Fate may be the redirector, there was a post he made about "role not being connected to alignment" in defense of Geno.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So we couldve had more tailors running around with Geno baked me?


also Nin and Sorian try not to say anything about Geno's flip not meaning anything because he could be the tailor. Me and Donnie discussed lookin at ppl trying to discredit flips/voting/analysis using that.

 

[Sorian]

The coincidence here is very curious to me. They swapped the exact two people need to check a player or redirected the one person doing the power.

 

[Sorian]

So we couldve had more tailors running around with Geno baked me?


also Nin and Sorian try not to say anything about Geno's flip not meaning anything because he could be the tailor. Me and Donnie discussed lookin at ppl trying to discredit flips/voting/analysis using that.

Easy enough

 

[nin1000]

5 minutes Everyone. Time to shine

 

[nin1000]

So we couldve had more tailors running around with Geno baked me?


also Nin and Sorian try not to say anything about Geno's flip not meaning anything because he could be the tailor. Me and Donnie discussed lookin at ppl trying to discredit flips/voting/analysis using that.

Roger that

 

[Sorian]

I’m very curious how day start is going to go.

Bonus points if Zipped is the switcher lol

 

[Sorian]

Third option is that someone made Donnie a nexus for the night

 

[Sorian]

Meant jman btw not Zipped lol but no bonus points

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So Bae has to answer for the track to WSD i guess.

Lucky Zook didnt track me.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Funny, me and Donnie tryin to speak in codes and Sorian like "Yo redirector, come out to play"

 

[Sorian]

Funny, me and Donnie tryin to speak in codes and Sorian like "Yo redirector, come out to play"

That’s me whether I’m town or scum lol No codes unless necessary

 

[Sorian]

This is good, I like this

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Kill Zook and Roleblock Nat tonight?

 

[Sorian]

Kill Zook and Roleblock Nat tonight?

Probably, need a second kill too, maybe Donnie finally?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Probably, need a second kill too, maybe Donnie finally?

Probably save Donne for N4 kill?

Zook would be mafia kill
My first vig shot needs to be someone believable, 2nd shot I can kill whoever

 

[Sorian]

Yes you’re right, just came back to post that, you have to kill someone the vig would kill, L_P is the solid one

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Not really bothered with Zipped's push. I had already put doubt on him in the chat with Donnie. And this meta read only came after I mentioned him in votes I didnt like on the malus wagon.

Need Nin to make it thru the day to be able to block Nat 2nite.

 

[Sorian]

Disagreement in neighbor chat, always a good town/town cover

 

[Sorian]

Idk what Zipped’s power is btw but I think he tried to target nin last night, either that or jman blocked him

 

[Sorian]

I’ve been thinking on this awhile, I’m surprised we’ve seen no hint of anything else going on. We only make up 17% of the roster which is way low. No other killer other than us and we haven’t flipped any neutral. We need to show town something so they don’t get skittish tomorrow, a neutral lunch or “vig” kill tonight would be great but idk what’s going on. Maybe a secret cult has been working?

 

[Sorian]

Arsonist with no douse message would be hilarious too, there just must be something, we lucked into a lot of things and made some good strats but this is too easy. I see some ways we could have gotten mega fucked but they were niche cases that had low odds of happening

 

[nin1000]

I think there has to be either a SK ( which i am doubting every day) and/or a cult Otherwise it would be too easy

 

[nin1000]

Idk what Zipped’s power is btw but I think he tried to target nin last night, either that or jman blocked him

Can you show me which post made you think that ß

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Donnie dropped the ".." signal to let me know who he thinks I should vig tonight

I'd be willing to try Shirou now. The more people that have died around it the less I like his d1 vote movement on Malus, his d2 vote movement on Zook seems way off compared to what he had scumread Geno for previously and his presented D2 reasoning didn't really match up with what he gave me last night. His net of people just keeps shifting and staying wide.

L_P, maybe he looks better tomorrow after this vote. I really didn't like his let's not look at the votes/no of course I don't like Nin or Zipped/but let's just look at the night actions run of posts. After Fate, I probably like his D1 D2 votes least as well right now without more info.

I'll vote ..either today. Not really sure about the Nat stuff honestly, all this role claim stuff is noisy and confusing as intended. If Vere was town, thats probably Nat's worst vote in my eyes but he's behind the other two for me in terms of vote behaviour or posting behaviour raising my eyebrow.

So.....seems like he wants nin or zipped vigged?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Can you show me which post made you think that ß

He's gotten his shots refunded 2 nights in a row.

 

[nin1000]

I was very Vary at the beginning of the day thinking it would all go sideways since L_P was on my tail but i think he dropped it and is looking elsewhere. Will try to get in contact with Donnie but i wont force it, since it would seem very unnatural. Will try to argue that Nat might be town but i wont push for it too hard.