Danganronpa 2 Mafia Thread - Nezumi Castle

[Sorian]

We can have some fun because we control the vote with Nin's double vote game. So worst case scenario we use that and cause a tie for the day.

I’m realizing we can’t open wolf, they do still have 5 votes if they all vote together

 

[Sorian]

Math and all that

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I’m realizing we can’t open wolf, they do still have 5 votes if they all vote together

 

[EzekelRAGE]

let me chill for a bit lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So.............nin's claim needs to be believable to get thru this day phase at least.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I think Nin doesnt escape this day phase w/o using the duel power.

Who should he give it to?
Probably best for it to be one of us, but could risk and it and give it to Donnie.

Nin if you go the JOAT claim route DO NOT claim Role Cop. It synergizes too well with Tailor and is seen as a largely scum role i think.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Natiko will be forcing one of us to self vote tonight too.

 

[Sorian]

I’m going to piss Nat off all day and then switch myself tonight, we’ll be fine there (it also doesn’t matter if 2 people die)

We should still hold the fuel as long as we can though

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Hadn't thought about this until now but mechanically speaking, what would have happened to Sorian and Zeke's neighbor chat if one of them had been death tailored? Memes? From Sorian's claim, they would be dead from the passive bodyguard if Zeke was tailored but what if Sorian was tailored. Someone else joins the chat lol?

Dang, had money on LP for thinking of this.

Game gets fun now.

 

[Sorian]

They still aren’t at the ATP link though

 

[EzekelRAGE]

True, LP can come thru for me

 

[Sorian]

I do think nin claims JOAT here and the block on Nat, it’s going to get Bae on our side I think. Maybe I’m crazy but it seems the best bet, I just don’t know what we can say other powers are, he just needs one more as a town JOAT would usually be 3

 

[nin1000]

Okay still claim Chiaki then ?

Powers i think would be

1 heal
1 Duel
1 roleblock

 

[nin1000]

Or wait

1 Duel not used
1 role Cop used on Natiko N1
1 Roleblock used on Natiko N3
1 heal used on Bae N2

 

[nin1000]

Or scratch the Roleblock and just have me have 3 things

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Do not claim role cop................

 

[nin1000]

Hahahaha okay okay

Duelist
Healer
Roleblock ?

Man another Roleblock ? Not in a million years can I believe that

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Heal/Duel/RB look ok i guess if you go the joat route, but check with Sorian first. Sorian can give input on Role Cop claim, but I wouldnt claim that

And yea you still claim Chiaki or w/e the ultimate gamer is.

 

[nin1000]

I mean I can be blunt and say that it only checks for their role name, i checked Natikos and saw that he was a bully.


I even breadcrumbled that throughout the game.


But I can see why that would not work.

Will wait on Sorian before going out into the game

 

[Sorian]

Definitely claim chiaki yes and all your powers are still because you play so many games.

Do not claim role cop lol

Heal is fine but when did you use it? Would be weird to still have it

 

[Sorian]

Everything is one shot of course

 

[Sorian]

As far as roleblock, idk weirder things have happened? It does feel like a lot but it does kill Natiko’s drive

 

[Sorian]

I’m also about to go to bed so please don’t burn it to the ground while I’m gone, calm and collected, come up with a story, stick to it, there’s enough doubt and good will

 

[nin1000]

One last check

 

[nin1000]

1 Duel not used
1 Roleblock used on Natiko N3
1 heal used on Bae on N2

 

[EzekelRAGE]

1 Duel not used
1 Roleblock used on Natiko N3
1 heal used on Bae on N2

That's good...........now why did you do bae on n2?
Why block natiko n3?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

make sure you dont have anything saying you suspect bae on day 2, who were your top town on day 2?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Bae scumread you day 2 adn you had this exchange with her

I mean NO my thoughts on nin have not changed but YES I want to give reads on Fate and LP

Yet i was not even mentioned on your scum list……

Yet i was not even mentioned on your scum list……

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Don’t worry you’re still on there

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Would you have tried to save someone who scumread you?

Would saying you protected Donnie be better? Idk who you gave a townread too this game, but you protecting Bae N2 doesnt look good with the exchange above.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

It seems you didnt check back in this thread before claiming

 

[nin1000]

Maaaaaaan.

 

[nin1000]

Yes. I can claim that even though she tunneled hard, that was an indication for me that she could be town

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Yes. I can claim that even though she tunneled hard, that was an indication for me that she could be town

Dont forget to mention the wsd msg

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Nat is actually buying that you are town blocked...

 

[EzekelRAGE]

blocker*

No way LP etc buy that there are 4 blockers and all are town...........no way

 

[nin1000]

LoooooooL Nat is completely broken. He bought it

 

[Sorian]

I didn’t know what I expected to wake up too lol this is what you get for dr3 Nat, I never forgot

 

[EzekelRAGE]

They……..really not gonna even make nin prove the duel role? The same arguments about nat’s bully role being too strong late game for scum apply to nin’s double vote as well.

 

[Sorian]

Gaslighting at its finest

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Not gonna interact with Nat anymore to make sure he targets you tonight.

 

[nin1000]

Yo. Soriano. Are you throwing me under the bus ? I come home from work to this ???

 

[nin1000]

They……..really not gonna even make nin prove the duel role? The same arguments about nat’s bully role being too strong late game for scum apply to nin’s double vote as well.

That's what is making me laugh so hard. I mean I could use it to prove myself and also save me, but if they don't really want me to prove myself...... It could be over sooner than later for them lol

 

[nin1000]

I have been holding on but, as soon as we are in proximity to a win the Obama gifs will flow. Trust me

 

[nin1000]

Damn, even after openly saying that i saved her on night 2, bad still wants me dead. Even though I RB'ed Natiko and he was Roleblocked. Sure honey :D

 

[Sorian]

Yo. Soriano. Are you throwing me under the bus ? I come home from work to this ???

Not really, there’s no world where they lunch you today, it’s either me or L_P but Natiko is just sounding exasperated by the minute. Unless he can actually pin down the ATP thing exactly, I don’t think he can convince anyone

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Sorian]

 

[Sorian]

So I decided to go look at my role PM again (which I did post in here btw) we have a slight problem

 

[Sorian]

That switch isn’t a switch, we have no way to stop Natiko’s action

 

[EzekelRAGE]

That switch isn’t a switch, we have no way to stop Natiko’s action

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Taxi Driver - You may submit the command Taxi: Player A, Player B to cause any actions performed by Player A to instead be performed by Player B, and vice versa.

hmmmm so we cant mess with the target at all? Like Say we know Donnie will target/chat LP and Natiko will target/bully you.

If we taxi driver donnie and nat, will Donnie still target LP, but his action will be bully and Natiko will chat you?

Or is it that Donnie will bully you and Nat will chat LP?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So.......you may be dead no matter what 2mrw, we may need to lynch nat today?


I may need to hold my kill another night.

 

[nin1000]

Not really, there’s no world where they lunch you today, it’s either me or L_P but Natiko is just sounding exasperated by the minute. Unless he can actually pin down the ATP thing exactly, I don’t think he can convince anyone

It LOOKS like it's going to be LP but it's not set in stone. Natiko just sounds more and more desperate. He ain't going to convince anyone if he keeps posting like that

 

[nin1000]

That switch isn’t a switch, we have no way to stop Natiko’s action

Dear god

 

[Sorian]

hmmmm so we cant mess with the target at all? Like Say we know Donnie will target/chat LP and Natiko will target/bully you.

If we taxi driver donnie and nat, will Donnie still target LP, but his action will be bully and Natiko will chat you?

Or is it that Donnie will bully you and Nat will chat LP?

The target doesn’t change just the user so in your example there, Donnie would bully me and Natiko would chat LP

 

[Sorian]

We would need to lunch Nat today to win which the only two ways I see that happening are either nin starting a vote on Natiko and peeling Bae and maybe someone else over there or if town sits on their hands and let’s this go to time tomorrow, we just snipe the vote at day end tomorrow

 

[Sorian]

I did notice our win con awhile ago is control 50% of the vote so I can only assume that would mean I need to be in control of my own vote? Maybe? I assume Fanto isn’t going to answer that

 

[Sorian]

Though by that logic if nin gives one of us a double vote, we should just win because we control 50% of the vote there lol and I’m sure it won’t work that way

 

[Sorian]

Though by that logic if nin gives one of us a double vote, we should just win because we control 50% of the vote there lol and I’m sure it won’t work that way

Well I guess not, vote and living players is the diving line here I guess

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Tempted to have Donnie invite me to chat tonight and just open wolf before killing him.....but Bae's power may be a doc save or something

 

[Sorian]

I wouldn’t bet on Bae’s power being the thing that saves the day but who knows?

We shouldn’t be open wolfing ever lol

 

[Sorian]

One of you should mention that Natiko probably was trying to do the vote thing to make today’s vote easier and nin blocking messed it up. Just because he didn’t kill doesn’t mean he can’t be scum, he wasn’t trying to kill because he was trying to prep the bad vote

 

[Sorian]

Probably nin on the above point ^

 

[EzekelRAGE]

We did not even get one Scum as of now. My guess is that you weren't trying to kill Because you were trying to prep a bad vote.

....................

We have a scum flip..................why do you think we didnt get one scum?

 

[nin1000]

Maaaaan why the fuck do i even copy paste.

I am such a fucking moron.

If we get it out of here alive, i will never fucking copy paste again in my life

 

[nin1000]

....................

We have a scum flip..................why do you think we didnt get one scum?

I am such a fucking tool

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I am such a fucking tool

Say you meant lynchwise, we havent gotten scum.

If someoen else asks probbin deeper, say you think it's likely vere was the scum and he was nightkilled?

That may work................although you did vote malus over vere........but maybe no one would look at it.

 

[Sorian]

We don’t have a scum flip though, he’s right, no one actually thinks ATP was scum

 

[Sorian]

Ya’ll are sweating some weird things, my bigger issue was you copy and pasted and left a he in there lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

We don’t have a scum flip though, he’s right, no one actually thinks ATP was scum

Yea, but they think Vere or Geno was the tailor...........so we do have a scum flip.............except we dont know which one.

Maybe you right and Im overthinkin

 

[Sorian]

I think that and Natiko thinks that, pretty sure WSD, L_P, maybe even Bae think that no scum has died

 

[nin1000]

Ya’ll are sweating some weird things, my bigger issue was you copy and pasted and left a he in there lol

Yep XD

 

[nin1000]

Well, let's see if they eat that thing up of me being drunk. At the end of the day it's the only reasonable excuse for me to be that way lol

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Nin, why did protect Bae on n2, what was the reasoning there? Just did a quick reread of the day phase and she pretty much straight scum reads you for that whole day (the whole game up until that point?), you disappear and don't vote...then protect her? What's the logic.

There's the Bae protection question

 

[nin1000]

There's the Bae protection question

i like the response :) lets ee if they eat it up

 

[Sorian]

Protecting Bae would be the least weird thing I’ve seen in this game, any answer would have been satisfactory there id hope, looks good to me

 

[nin1000]

Going to bed now, lets see what happens while i am sleeping

 

[Sorian]

Nin dueling Zeke and purposely losing so that Zeke gets the double is probably the best thing here? I assume you both just pm a command to Fanto so just coordinate a loser in here

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Nin dueling Zeke and purposely losing so that Zeke gets the double is probably the best thing here? I assume you both just pm a command to Fanto so just coordinate a loser in here

Yep, I'm sure Nin can come up with w/e reason to choose me.

 

[Sorian]

You came up with this plan and nin does before planning, ez

 

[Sorian]

That thread lmao

 

[EzekelRAGE]

heads up @Sorian I plan on posting this at some point. Just gonna wait though cuz it's a lot and no one is around lol

Tell me - why do you town read Sorian? Because he got you an extra shot that he could aim? Mafia would never right? That’s far less of a gambit than red checking yourself but only one of these avenues are something you’ve bothered to discuss. Can’t imagine why. I wish you were town, then I’d get to clown on you post game for throwing but I doubt that’ll be the case.

What if Nat is scum with some combo of Sorian/LP/Nin and the red check was done to just throw confusion?

I think it was you or LP that brought up "Sorian keeps defending you Zeke". Let's look at what Sorian has said about you Nat.

I do think Natiko needs to go at some point but I still get neutral vibe so I'm not jumping to protect him but I'm also not going to vote him unless we start doing something dumb later.

Actually he thinks your ability is fake is the problem. I think you’re town being framed, he thinks you’re full of shit on everything.

I really don’t see how Natiko is scum here, it’s probably just nin which sure but L_P wants to play games and make it sound like we cant lynch him anyway so I’m not budging

There's nothing vague. I don't think Natiko is scum. He wouldn't be acting like this if a team is depending on him but I also don't think he is town. I don't care about neutrals but while he is still an unknown he does need to be voted out. I just like bigger swings on the day 1 vote.

I never said Nat was scum

Lotta defendin, and this doesnt involve the neighbor chat defense. The more I spoke about a scum nate in chat the more Sorian pushed back against it.

I kept this in chat for as long as I could, hes on his own now

Then a post that stuck out to me was this right here:
Your claim.

Claim time, since it feels like there’s no point withholding it now that I’m under actual suspicion:
I am Hiyoko Saionji, the Ultimate Traditional Dancer. I am the wonderful negative utility PR of a 1-shot Bully and can force a player to vote for themselves the next day phase.

Nothing wrong with it and looks good. But this:

She’s just a dick in the game, second Natiko said he was a bully I knew who the character was lmao

This tells me that nat claimed bully before, but I had just looked his claim and posts and made sure that wasnt the case. So how would Sorian know he was a bully?
Looked weird, which is why I replied.

Puzzled questioning gif also why i made this post:

I mean..........he said who the flavor name was before he said he was a bully

Is it damning evidence...........not

Possible slip?...................yes especially if you are a scum bully.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

You came up with this plan and nin does before planning, ez

Yea nin when you get up just do the duel in the thread, even if me and Sorian arent here, duel me.

I will enter Rock to Fanto whenever I get up, you go scissors.

Reason you chose me?
You trusted me with double vote last game and when you didnt trust me we lost
I killed zipped
I make sense about Nat

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Nin need you to hit the thread and do the duel.
Donnie wants your lynch. Bae does as well.

 

[nin1000]

Yeah sorry. Work was tough today. But I am here nos and ready to rock :)

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Just enter the duel command don’t give them the chance to select who you should choose. They will say Donnie.

choose me

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I can’t say I want it in the game thread

 

[Sorian]

I'm enjoying this whole being quiet thing, its pretty fun

 

[EzekelRAGE]

 

[Sorian]

Lmao every minute nin gives them to answer is another chance for someone to make it awkward when he chooses you.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Lmao every minute nin gives them to answer is another chance for someone to make it awkward when he chooses you.

Exactly

 

[nin1000]

Playing the victim here. Being insure as to who to trust completely. May have gone overboard here with mentioning both of y'all but then again it makes sense in the nin world

 

[nin1000]

How should I handle it giving you the double vote though ?


I mean I can make my case and say that the last time I had a double vote i have it to you and we won the game. The last time i did not trust you however town lost the game

 

[Sorian]

To be fair you aren’t just giving it to him, you are challenging him, you would go into it expecting to win the vote, he’s on your trust list and he came up with the idea for you to use it today first in thread

 

[EzekelRAGE]

How should I handle it giving you the double vote though ?


I mean I can make my case and say that the last time I had a double vote i have it to you and we won the game. The last time i did not trust you however town lost the game

Already went over this

Nin dueling Zeke and purposely losing so that Zeke gets the double is probably the best thing here? I assume you both just pm a command to Fanto so just coordinate a loser in here

Yea nin when you get up just do the duel in the thread, even if me and Sorian arent here, duel me.

I will enter Rock to Fanto whenever I get up, you go scissors.

Reason you chose me?
You trusted me with double vote last game and when you didnt trust me we lost
I killed zipped
I make sense about Nat

Nin need you to hit the thread and do the duel.
Donnie wants your lynch. Bae does as well.

 

[nin1000]

I know we did but I just wanted to talk :(

 

[EzekelRAGE]

They let the town rb claim rock from you, they will buy w/e reason you feed for choosing me.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

I know we did but I just wanted to talk :(

You can talk all you want after the duel, the longer it lingers the worse for us.

 

[Sorian]

You can talk all you want after the duel, the longer it lingers the worse for us.

Because town is going to afk, we are going to be sniping the vote anyway, we all just need to gang our 4 votes up on nin, i probably have to do it right before day end, you two can kind of naturally just get there (Zeke already is). If Natiko dies, we likely just win