Scum Thread At the Illegal Artist Alley

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
ok hear me out. what if we forge the pm to contain a single word

kyaaa :D

nobody will believe that I am scum, nobody. alternatively, if you two want some cover from the heat that you might be getting, how about a simple:

THIS PRIVATE MESSAGE WAS STOLEN BY RANDOMLESS / VINCENT ALEXANDER

perhaps should not put both of your names there though

fran's hmm could just be

narf

and people will kill wee instead
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Sorian is pretty adamant about VA being a cop. His role doesn't care about marygaryness, I don't think I'm getting much else from him on that front. Will push him for read so we have an idea where he stands.

What do you all think about faking malus as Emissary? We are giving a free check there, but it'd give VA some room to claim the actual cop role. Us killing malus over VA will also look somewhat questionable if we just retract his PM, as that will give way to the question of "Why wasn't this done to VA, who was also perhaps softing alignment things?" It might make it look more like scum went with a blind shot on one of the two targets and they happened to chose the weaker one.

If there is a role that'd give malus a hint about Nat being town, but not outright confirm it, it'd be better, but quickly thinking I am not instantly aware of such in the context of what we know about actions and whatnot.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Of course, if malus is just a filthy neutral who needs to keep Nat alive, we'd be owning ourselves by confirming Nat. Is what it is.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I don't think he ever did.

Oh and didn't have time to say this during that nonsense, but good job VA. I thought there was little chance that you get out of that. Mess and all, town being town and getting confused, but you did impose enough control on the situation to deter people like Sorian and Wiz from your ass. Sorian speaking for you was big.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Thank ya, thank ya.

You all fine with me not using kill tonight in case Wiz or someone else watches me? Or fuck it because we need to be sure Malus dies?
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Thank ya, thank ya.

You all fine with me not using kill tonight in case Wiz or someone else watches me? Or fuck it because we need to be sure Malus dies?
I'm not sure we have a perfect clean play here. If you do the kill and get tracked, goodbye. If you don't do the kill and get tracked, you will not move, which looks like you got blocked. The second seems like the better alternative, but given that it wasn't obvious to all what people were seeing in you, chances are that some if not many will find the idea that you got blocked and malus got killed suspicious.

If we can sell the idea that scum thought it possible that both you and malus were hinting at alignment-related activities, block one and and kill the other is a perfectly standard play for scum to make. And while this might seem too clean for us, town has no info and all it sees is a mess.

You getting Wiz-Watched and him proving that you were not blocked is not an issue, since his power supposedly only works on Garys. He can catch us on Gary-malus though, but we can do nothing about it if we want malus dead.

Wiz kill could be a thing. I doubt he gets protected as Chuggs does not trust him. It gets rid of one of the things we cannot really handle right now. Leaving you and malus alive gives neither of you any town karma and keeps up the facade that either of you could be scum. Really, with both of you alive, it might be possible for you two to abstain from direct claims and just Fight Club it out while town moves POE to other folks. I think explanations will be expected though. Wiz kill also weakens Fran's eventual claim somewhat and him playing the "I would oppose my team killing anyone who could vouch for my role." does get countered with "ye but he watcher though, he claim to you or what?" pretty fast.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
But if malus is an actual real alignment cop, he is the big bad here.

Should really read his posts to see if he has been softing other checks besides Nat.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Also, to reiterate---I didn't plan on going full cop, unless you all think I should. I was going to claim 1 shot cop check, and 1 shot redirect of anything targeting me. Via my lasso and bracelets respectively. I can go full in on cop, but wasn't sure since we are seeing a lot of flips with limits.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Re-read Nat and I see 0 indication of a role. If there are crumbs, I see none for Malus to pick up on. Nat was also RB'ed early on if it matters.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Just to be sure:

1. Are we all good with killing Malus?
2. Do we want to forge, or leave it alone? (Leave it alone, less chance of getting tracked/watched and we actually get to see what Malus had. But if Malus is a cop, looks worse for me even if I go with 1 shot.
3. Who is doing the murderin'?
 

Franconp

Frank
Natiko's read list:

Town
Zook
Jman
Rando
Me
Wee

Town Lean
Haw
Melon
Nin
Wiz

Null
Kyan
Chuggs
Kopite
VA
Malus

Scum
Muffin
Sorian
LP
 

Franconp

Frank
Just to be sure:

1. Are we all good with killing Malus?
2. Do we want to forge, or leave it alone? (Leave it alone, less chance of getting tracked/watched and we actually get to see what Malus had. But if Malus is a cop, looks worse for me even if I go with 1 shot.
3. Who is doing the murderin'?

Rando already used the forge command on Malus so he is doing the kill. The forge command also kills (or at least that's how I understood it).
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Ah, I think you're right. So my assumption is we'll find out when actions lock, or shortly after, whether our target dies, and if so, we'll have the remaining time until start of day to write the forgery:

To add on, you can choose to keep the flavour and name, you just won't be able to see them before manipulation.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Nat scum reading LP and Sorian? Hmm. Could be good. Could be very bad, because that means content that way and it might help him to solve the game.

shoo nat shoo
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Sorian is somewhat reserved, offering not-that-much if not poked. Trying to get some reads out of him now, not sure if I'll catch them, as I have to bail almost until day start in a couple.

Just to be sure:

1. Are we all good with killing Malus?
2. Do we want to forge, or leave it alone? (Leave it alone, less chance of getting tracked/watched and we actually get to see what Malus had. But if Malus is a cop, looks worse for me even if I go with 1 shot.
3. Who is doing the murderin'?
1. I don't object to it. Not sure if optimal and I feel that might've pushed Sorian on myself with the flip but such is life. Wiz could be the optimal kill here, but ehh. Cops scawy =(
2. Redact fully, go for lols with [FATE SAYS HI], forge something that does can coexist with your fake claim. Somebody has to write the 3rd one though.
3. That's how I read it, we have two hours to argue with and complain to loki and Vere about what we get to forge and why.
 
I'm fine with killing malus if we really think he is the cop. He's a suboptimal kill in terms of wagon placement because he was almost voted out and it might implicate me. Him hesitating to claim tells me he has something good though.

I don't want to put him as Emissary because then we need to think of an entire fake paragraph of flavour + fake role PM + a name + image in 2 hours while I'm at work. That's not happening by me but if somebody wants to do that work be my guest
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Dumb idea---and I'll gladly write whatever nonsense---what if we made Malus a Digimon? Specifically, a Digi-Egg who doesn't know it's powers until it finds its partner and hatches. However, if his partner isn't found by Day 4, he dies. He has to be careful though---there are bad people out there, and if he picks the wrong partner he might die.

I'm trying to think of a way to create some more confusion with a flip that somehow has death baked into it if Malus does X because I want it to come across like we actually failed in our kill last night, convering for, "Why Malus...?" Well, because something with Malus' power flipped and he died. He either targeted wrong person, didn't find his partner, whatever. Just spitballing here.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
^This doesn't fit super strong into the Gary Stu/Mary Sue, but it does give us an inorganic. Aaaand if Rando is really in a tough spot today like I imagine they will be, he can claim to be the Digimon partner Malus was looking for. Could even start the day with an overly grumpy post (but leave it vague) because his egg just got murdered.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
That seems pretty out there lol

I can't see that working out
It's a little out there, but look at the banner of this game! There's stuff from all over, and our gamerunners are nerds (I assume). It finally gives an inorganic like was mentioned in the opening post, and town has no reason to believe anything is fake. They've already found a few powers a confusing. This one is less odd---end of the day, the flavor is silly, but at it's core it's just a lover looking for their pair to team up with.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I go into each scum matchup like we're all on a slow timer for death. The goal is to murder as many town folk as we can on the way down, and cause some fun chaos. I just need some of you crazy people to get with the crazy!

yay-excited.gif
 

Franconp

Frank
Dumb idea---and I'll gladly write whatever nonsense---what if we made Malus a Digimon? Specifically, a Digi-Egg who doesn't know it's powers until it finds its partner and hatches. However, if his partner isn't found by Day 4, he dies. He has to be careful though---there are bad people out there, and if he picks the wrong partner he might die.

I'm trying to think of a way to create some more confusion with a flip that somehow has death baked into it if Malus does X because I want it to come across like we actually failed in our kill last night, convering for, "Why Malus...?" Well, because something with Malus' power flipped and he died. He either targeted wrong person, didn't find his partner, whatever. Just spitballing here.

I don't think it will work because it's a really unfair role for the player. Them having to find a player and if they miss they die? I don't think that would pass review.

But can be discussed as it depends of the reviewer but what will give it away is that Malus would have breadcrumbed that HARD. Even more yesterday. It makes no sense that he didn't just claim to find his partners instead of dying.

If we want to just have fun, I think we can go for better memes (but I don't really care much what we do). If we want to fool someone I don't think that will work.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Does it work if we take out the dying at day X part, then it becomes implied he visitied a bad person perhaps? Or start from scratch. End goal: I'd love to have a flip that makes it seem as if something other than NK got Malus. You're all smarties with more experience. How do we do that?
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Oh, and I don't want it to be if they miss they die. More that there is an implication there is a specitic target out there that is bad for the egg, and if Malus chooses, they die. Anyone else would be no result.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I am free on my lunch and downing coffee so I'm a LITTLE WIRED right meow.

If you were to pick a fun meme, Fran---any coming to mind?
 
The following is my idea for the forge:

You are [REDACTED] and you are a [REDACTED]

Invitation: You are a [REDACTED]

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town).

[REDACTED]

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

[REDACTED]

This is the flip image:
redacted-sign-or-stam1dfv9.jpg



Yes that is terribly boring but it would be effective enough. If y'all want to write a full PM be my guest. I will be in a meeting the full hour before day start so I won't be able to do anything.
 
The following is my idea for the forge:

You are [REDACTED] and you are a [REDACTED]

Invitation: You are a [REDACTED]

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town).

[REDACTED]

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

[REDACTED]

This is the flip image:
redacted-sign-or-stam1dfv9.jpg



Yes that is terribly boring but it would be effective enough. If y'all want to write a full PM be my guest. I will be in a meeting the full hour before day start so I won't be able to do anything.
@Verelios @lokiduck if the others don't think of anything this will be the official submission, just making that clear
 
Another meme option is make a town hooker/hider that is the opposite of darkside's role, that might be a little on the nose though.
As in, they are a Gary Stu that can only roleblock + hide behind Mary Sues. Natiko has already claimed Mary Sue I think so that could be an excuse why malus trusts him
 

Franconp

Frank
A weak cop could be good too:

You are [X] and you are a Mary Sue Weak Cop.

Invitation: You are a Gary Stu.

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town)

During the night you can use Check: Target to check the aligment of your target. If your target is a Mary Sue you will be told their aligment but if you target scum you will die. If you target a Gary Stu the action will fail.

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

[some flavour]
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Trying to think of characters who investiagte, but are cowards. Like a Shaggy or better yet Scooby Doo. He'd surely die if he found scum.
 
Iron Man? He's a womanizer and does sciency stuff and is a Gary Stu, but he also always fucks things up when bad stuff actually happens like Civil War etc.
 
Iron Man? He's a womanizer and does sciency stuff and is a Gary Stu, but he also always fucks things up when bad stuff actually happens like Civil War etc.
You could say in the flavour paragraph he's tired of fucking things up and is just looking to relax and avoid trouble at the convention
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
As someone who knows his way around death, you could really use a vacation, but not without first cementing your legacy. What better place to spread the good gospel of The Winchesters than the 99th Leading Men and Women of Fiction Convention! You know you're adorable, and you know your way around a convention hall. There's just one snag...Some fans are giving you the cold shoulder. Something about you being the lesser of the Winchester brothers? You're going to have to shift gears and unmask these naysayers in order to set the record straight before this trip goes to waste!

You are Dean Winchester and you are a Mary Sue Cop

Invitation: You are a Gary Stu

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town).

During the night you can use I'm Batman: target to check the alignment of your target. If your target is a Mary Sue, you will be told their alignment, but if the target is scum, you will die. If you target a Gary Stu, the action will fail.

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

[REDACTED]

This is the flip image:
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Looking for imagine now, but wanted to get the meat of it down. Any concern with using I'm Batman as name? It's a good quote of his from show, but might seem weird if we actually have Batman in the game? lol
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
As someone who knows his way around death, you could really use a vacation, but not without first cementing your legacy. What better place to spread the good gospel of The Winchesters than the 99th Leading Men and Women of Fiction Convention! You know you're adorable, and you know your way around a convention hall. There's just one snag...Some fans are giving you the cold shoulder. Something about you being the lesser of the Winchester brothers? You're going to have to shift gears and unmask these naysayers in order to set the record straight before the whole trip goes to waste!

You are Dean Winchester and you are a Mary Sue Cop

Invitation: You are a Gary Stu

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town).

During the night you can use I'm Batman: target to check the alignment of your target. If your target is a Mary Sue, you will be told their alignment, but if the target is scum, you will die. If you target a Gary Stu, the action will fail.

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

Carry on wayword son

Dean.jpg
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
As someone who knows his way around death, you could really use a vacation, but not without first cementing your legacy. What better place to spread the good gospel of The Winchesters than the 99th Leading Men and Women of Fiction Convention! You know you're adorable, and you know your way around a convention hall. There's just one snag...Some fans are giving you the cold shoulder. Something about you being the lesser of the Winchester brothers? You're going to have to shift gears and unmask these naysayers in order to set the record straight before the whole trip goes to waste!

You are Dean Winchester and you are a Mary Sue Cop

Invitation: You are a Gary Stu

You are aligned with The Leading Stars of Fiction (That is Town).

During the night you can use I'm Batman: target to check the alignment of your target. If your target is a Mary Sue, you will be told their alignment, but if the target is scum, you will die. If you target a Gary Stu, the action will fail.

You can also vote!

You win when all threats to town are eliminated!

Main thread:

Carry on wayward son

Dean.jpg
 
Oh boy jman is gonna claim here too

I'm not gonna pop in at day start I'm pretty busy at work, I'll see y'all in an hour or so
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I'm going to poke my head in here a few times, but not gonna take part in the game thread until tonight when I can give it real attention.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
We're going to run into trouble with town core. Nat, Zook, and Sorian. If I die, at least Sorian's town confirmation goes with me. But until I do, that's a solid 3.
 
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