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Bug having that ability mucks things up. There is absolutely no reason Bug (and I honestly don't see how its not Fate) should not use it, it'd be in their own benefit to do so but idk if we can make that assumption.
I'm going to sleep now (i'll be back around 9 in the morning eastern) but I'm wondering what you guys think about kill and blocks? We can either kill inside the box or outside of the box. Inside the box is seems the way to go if you feel this game is kind of hopeless and want to make towns lives as miserable as possible. Outside the box seems like the right call if you think we can actually win. I'm fine with whichever way you guys want to go.
Our role abilities are kind of idk thanks to bug ability, not really sure what we wanna do here
I'm going to sleep now (i'll be back around 9 in the morning eastern) but I'm wondering what you guys think about kill and blocks? We can either kill inside the box or outside of the box. Inside the box is seems the way to go if you feel this game is kind of hopeless and want to make towns lives as miserable as possible. Outside the box seems like the right call if you think we can actually win. I'm fine with whichever way you guys want to go.
Our role abilities are kind of idk thanks to bug ability, not really sure what we wanna do here
well if we go inside I think roleblocking HP and killing Wizard might be the way to go? Not sure about the latter but the former definitely seems right to me, we need to keep the bug alive as long as possible. Also sets up the crazy gambit play of not actually killing anyone on night 2 and faking a protection from nin :lol:
karkador
Board Game King
Okay, this is what I've come up with:
Rover kills one of the guards (leaning Launch)
Darkside Roleblock Engineer (HP)
Nin Charblock Doctor (LP)
The idea here is to kill a side character in the Town PR 5, but still pretty strong in activity and believability, and does not invalidate any of your claims. It also lets you distance each other in terms of who you're trusting - nin trusting LP and Darkside counterclaiming LP.
The Character block on the doctor is basically to cut off any secondary power LP might have.
Rover kills one of the guards (leaning Launch)
Darkside Roleblock Engineer (HP)
Nin Charblock Doctor (LP)
- Comet learns only that HP was roleblocked
- Remnan learns 1 of 3 things:
- Rover moved: I sent a letter to Launch explaining my strat, which to explain my strat to Guard Duty (hence why I've stressed that)
- Darkside moved: Doctor used their character power: claim Shigemichi because it's easier to fake, since we know who Stella is
- nin moved: Guardian Angel protecting Doctor (LP)
The idea here is to kill a side character in the Town PR 5, but still pretty strong in activity and believability, and does not invalidate any of your claims. It also lets you distance each other in terms of who you're trusting - nin trusting LP and Darkside counterclaiming LP.
The Character block on the doctor is basically to cut off any secondary power LP might have.
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nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Just saw this. Nice plan. Thanks for putting in the work. I had a rough and full week, but I am now in vacation to comit fully to this game.
man I reading correctly to rolebloxk L_P ?
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karkador
Board Game King
Thanks all!
So remember to not full claim this info unless pressed to do so. It depends on what Remnan claims to have found, if anything.
For example, if Darkside gets asked what they saw at night as the doctor, you say that sparks was human (since that's what his role pm says). No need to volunteer that you "used Shigemichi" unless it comes up.
Same for Nin, you just need to report that you protected LP.
So remember to not full claim this info unless pressed to do so. It depends on what Remnan claims to have found, if anything.
For example, if Darkside gets asked what they saw at night as the doctor, you say that sparks was human (since that's what his role pm says). No need to volunteer that you "used Shigemichi" unless it comes up.
Same for Nin, you just need to report that you protected LP.
Verelios
Were-elios
I think we can. We should absolutely make cover for Rover and he can go in deep. Try and fraternize with everyone. Create WIFOM.
Verelios
Were-elios
Hey Kark, funny times ;)
Verelios
Were-elios
It was a good night. Honestly, you were in a tough situation. The rash response might have been to kill LP or HP, but that wouldn't help and the damage was already done. Cutting your losses was much better. LP and Wizard won't live long anyway. Donnie and Launch teaming up would go on a fucking tear through the claims today so that was a good kill.
Verelios
Were-elios
It's possible, but I wouldn't back this 100%. I think we can look at Fate, Melon and EC. They're all varying amounts of bloodlust and indifference.
karkador
Board Game King
So I'm thinking that with Gina, Raqio, Comet (if you believe Chuggs didn't save the shot and make an obvious call), and Otome out of the picture, i actually think my godfather power has outlived its usefulness with the exception of getting looked at by engineer.
Dark's roleblock is actually more important for another night, assuming a role block still eats a shot (that's the usual
, right?)
So i think it might be me taking the first bullet, and that way you don't have to block or kill LP
Dark's roleblock is actually more important for another night, assuming a role block still eats a shot (that's the usual
, right?)
So i think it might be me taking the first bullet, and that way you don't have to block or kill LP
Verelios
Were-elios
I don't know if that's going to go over well. Dark is well and truly cooked because of Chuggs' claim and I'm a holdout only because they won't go for us without making sure the bug is dead. You can be our ace in the hole in that circumstance unless ppl start thinking you're bug.
karkador
Board Game King
People are suspecting I'm the bug, which feels like it's gonna make this a bug win.
Verelios
Were-elios
Not to be alarmist, but I think going for mutual destruction with a bug win is our best path forward. People are already gearing up to go through me an Wiz. So, uh, yeah. Fun times.
If...we really want to gamble then we can take a chance on HP investigating Rover. Can't get much worse after all. Otherwise we can just kill HP.
If...we really want to gamble then we can take a chance on HP investigating Rover. Can't get much worse after all. Otherwise we can just kill HP.
yeah theres the chance he doesnt use the ability today since its a 2 shot and theres also the chance he aims it at scum rather than bug
i think killing him doesnt actually stop either right? if he still aims it then it still goes off and i wont be able to block him anyway, so maybe its not a priority for you guys
i think killing him doesnt actually stop either right? if he still aims it then it still goes off and i wont be able to block him anyway, so maybe its not a priority for you guys
Verelios
Were-elios
Perhaps. I think HP was likely refunded since he was rbed last night so we have to kill him sometime soon.
karkador
Board Game King
Bug win just feels bad since it's technically against our wincon. I'd do it out of spite, but yeah.
My foolproof* Bug catching plan is to say that I can use Chipie to send the alleged Bug a letter each night, and wait for them to use Nexus, which will make it bounce to another player. With any luck, it randomly bounces to a trustworthy Town who will confirm my claim, and rid the game of the Bug - giving us at least one more day or night.
Alternate routes with this plan are that one of you simply claims that the letter bounced to you, but obviously this might not fly with how Town is trusting us. I do think Vere is turning it around a little, which is incredible
My foolproof* Bug catching plan is to say that I can use Chipie to send the alleged Bug a letter each night, and wait for them to use Nexus, which will make it bounce to another player. With any luck, it randomly bounces to a trustworthy Town who will confirm my claim, and rid the game of the Bug - giving us at least one more day or night.
Alternate routes with this plan are that one of you simply claims that the letter bounced to you, but obviously this might not fly with how Town is trusting us. I do think Vere is turning it around a little, which is incredible
karkador
Board Game King
* Foolproof because, it will not work if the Bug knows I'm doing it and never uses Nexus again. I thought about claiming that it happened N1, which would at least implicate Chuggs too, but I'd have to say it probably bounced to Launch (too much of a coincidence), and too much of a gamble to bet that Fate is the Bug right now to go full steam ahead on the claim.
If you guys can actually implicate Chuggs then you could put some pressure on LP as being a fake doctor. Anyway I don't see any path where I'm not dead today, I got work from now till game close so if this is the end for me thanks for everything. If you guys want me to try to make any posts I can sneak in a few while I'm at work, just lemme know what you want. Sorry I suck at this game
Verelios
Were-elios
Nah Dark, you don't suck. You were just hit by an unfortunate avalanche of back luck, it happens to us all. All we can really do when it hits is roll with it and you've been taking it like a champ.
You can open wolf if you feel like it, go wild and start replying to everyone about everything.
Although...if you think we can work in a Chuggs/LP team up scenario I'm all ears.
well the mechanic that sealed the deal for me vs LP is the comet claim backing LP as human doctor. if you guys implicate chuggs and people question him then they'll question if LP is scum or not.
I don't know how you guys get to that point though where you can draw a line connecting those 2 together, other people in the game have to start thinking 1 scum is outside the box entirely - and the way you do that I think is by convincing people the bug is inside the box and you had 2 scum + 1 bug inside the PR box and 1 scum outside of it. Which is part of the reason why keeping bug alive seems important to me, on top of it pressuring town in general
I don't know how you guys get to that point though where you can draw a line connecting those 2 together, other people in the game have to start thinking 1 scum is outside the box entirely - and the way you do that I think is by convincing people the bug is inside the box and you had 2 scum + 1 bug inside the PR box and 1 scum outside of it. Which is part of the reason why keeping bug alive seems important to me, on top of it pressuring town in general
Verelios
Were-elios
Interesting. I've been very vocal about the bug being in crew so it might be hard for me to start it but I wouldn't mind pushing the boat after it sails.
Verelios
Were-elios
HP still has 2 shots so if we don't get him soon then we're grass.
Verelios
Were-elios
My only real worry is Wizard protecting LP or HP. It's 50/50 on who he chooses.