Neighbor Thread Little Robot Cult

Verelios

Were-elios
Just saying, I'm not that comfortable being in a chat where I get backbit. I already went through that once and it wasn't fun.

Currently thinking how I want to move forward now.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
laffo

i am ready to be burned to death. I don't care.

i worked damn hard to get in this thread.

but still kyan why pick someone who you didn't town read?

And what is with the item going missing. I missed that. What was it anyway. You seemed happy to share it with Vere so share the info now.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
you asked if I was recruiting. I was 100% memes d1 lol and I just could not leave you without an invite after I saw that. like I said, I laughed for many good minutes when I saw that post and sent in the command to inv you. fun things are fun. I read your posts from the Fran thing forward first time a couple of hours ago. I had no effective read on you (sans the missing night action) before that.

I do not aim to make you uncomfortable. I like to think that chats like this are just a tool of solving like any other. My current view is that there is a chance that you are not town. Ain't a strong view or anything and I am hardly one to push people to begin with. I can be wrong and time will tell if I am. Regardless of your alignment, I'd encourage you to use this chat as a tool. Whether it is a tool to solve me or to do something else, it's up to you. My aim is to not only solve but to get solved.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I don't know man. I've been trying to give you some trust so we can use this chat as a tool but it's very hard. Just counting a few things that felt off to me:

1. Choosing your member on memes.
2. Asking if I was moving last night, and saying it was because you were sending an 'important' item that never came.
2. Asking if I have items
3. Asking me what my starting mafierabucks were.
4. Shooting me and taking my property
5. Voting me afterwards

I mean, sorry if I'm wrong but I just didn't feel any genuine desire to figure me out on your end other than what I had.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
And what is with the item going missing. I missed that. What was it anyway. You seemed happy to share it with Vere so share the info now.

I attempted to give something to Vere last night. He did not receive it. The action fails if the target moves. Vere claims he did not move. Some possible explanations:
  1. I was blocked.
  2. I was manipulated to a target that moved and my action failed.
  3. Vere was manipulated to move and my action failed.
  4. Vere was switched with someone.
  5. Vere just moved to make my action fail.
  6. Vere did receive the thing and because it is pretty obvious what it might be, he and his mates chose to lie about not receiving it.
I can't rule out the scum possibilities, though it is perfectly possible that Vere is town and he had nothing to do with any of this. I do not think that the scum cases are that conclusive, really. It'd be risky to say that you don't move and then just move anyway when you can't be certain I am telling the truth. Even if scum Vere received the thing, I'd be slightly surprised if 6 was the option scum would go with, because it is so tame in comparison to what could theoretically be done.

Really, 6 in particular is one of the stronger points towards Vere being town IMO. It's just that I can't be sure that scum wouldn't go with the tried and true tame option.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
what was the item

we need some openness and transparency here. You need to make the first move kyan. you have broken trust and need to try and make amends

you two are lucky I am here to mediate.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I don't know man. I've been trying to give you some trust so we can use this chat as a tool but it's very hard. Just counting a few things that felt off to me:

1. Choosing your member on memes.
2. Asking if I was moving last night, and saying it was because you were sending an 'important' item that never came.
2. Asking if I have items
3. Asking me what my starting mafierabucks were.
4. Shooting me and taking my property
5. Voting me afterwards

I mean, sorry if I'm wrong but I just didn't feel any genuine desire to figure me out on your end other than what I had.

I am very much winging this game man. I am hardly pushing for masses of reads or lots of content. It just happened that you were one of the topics yesterday (vs. Fran), which then spilled over to today (vs. Chuggs). Given that I invited you here, it felt most appropriate to have a read on you sooner than later so I finally went and read.

1. I understand if that bothers and concerns you. I said in my first post of the game that this'd be a chill meme game for me. It will be that until the end. Goes without saying that I've kinda dropped the act at this point, but the effort has only gone up ever so little and it will not rise much from here I imagine. I just don't have the time or interest in solving a gigamadness game of million people. I joined to have fun and that's still very much one of the bigger driving forces behind my actions. Honestly, had I not randomed you, I might not have shot you, and instead just kept my paranoia to myself.

2. I am at this point not interested in revealing more details about the thing. I have been honest about my action restriction and about my claim in general. Well, I've obfuscated a bit, but that's the fun part speaking again. Money I've lied about, I'm not rich by any means, but I have a reasonable chance to survive Monopoly I think.

2. You were the one to bring up the items (well sans me memeing about my item). I only touched the matter after that and in an open manner. You had the chance to deflect the discussion elsewhere and you did. I pursued the matter no further, because you do what you do with your items. I was only interested in what you felt like sharing.

3. Here I was concerned that you might not have been truthful about you being poor (cuz I wasn't lol). I looked at the property you bought and the rolls you had and with the standard 1500, you should've had ~1k still - far from being poor. Tracking the money was a big thing in EZA, as you might remember. Didn't remember that the roulette was a thing for one, and stealing. Essentially, I was analyzing if you were being truthful. I asked because I was worried and wanted clarity.

4. No need to rehash the arguments for the shot, but the two properties came as a surprise and something beyond my control. If you wish to argue that I shot you in hopes that I'd get the property you claimed to have bought, you are free to do so. I have no effective counter to that other than my word that it was not the case.

5. I generally vote for people that I'd like to flip.

what was the item

we need some openness and transparency here. You need to make the first move kyan. you have broken trust and need to try and make amends

you two are lucky I am here to mediate.

I'll tell in couple of nights when I run out of shots. Not before. The exact nature of the thing is such that I still think it is better to get natural reactions to it than to spill the beans, even if the info is out there.

also is this a day recruit? when does someone else arrive?

People join when night starts. One more invite, might get more with my item.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I've tried to be as open as I can, limiting the info only where I felt it necessary. Honestly, giving out too much info in many ways, the optimal play might've been just to toss the thing to a blocked player without saying a single thing. That was my original idea, but I wanted to involve you Vere since it'd give me the chance to analyze you and the game better. Besides, I liked the whole secret chat that plans things -angle. Sounded fun, but scum got in the way. A shame.

Alright, then I think I'm done here.

Unfortunate. I am afraid that it'll take me time to see this in a favorable light and I hope your main thread contributions will show your inner towniness. All the best, drop by to read some hot takes every now and then, if nothing else. Always welcome to say hi.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
@Kyanrute who are you thinking about recruiting?

@Verelios I think you are being a little too up tight especially for someone who didn't/doesn't move at night

Let's be real, the main thread is a mess and we have a chance to at least create some sort of focus in here. Throwing it away is stupid.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
@Kyanrute who are you thinking about recruiting?

No concrete ideas yet. Not gonna meme it. Someone I town read and who doesn't feel like an immediate night kill. The latter might drop folks like Rando and Leo. Maybe even Sorian. Could get wee maybe. Could use the chat to get something out of Nat since he's been busy so far. Vere's suggestion of Ephi is a good one too. Talky folks are good, I work best in reaction to others. Terra should die soon, maybe not him. Don't think I trust Chuggs yet.

Believe me, I understand the issue of thinking that this chat might be compromised and inviting possible townies here. Is what it is, I can only hope that I am right about new folks and wrong about Vere.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
@Kyanrute who are you thinking about recruiting?

@Verelios I think you are being a little too up tight especially for someone who didn't/doesn't move at night

Let's be real, the main thread is a mess and we have a chance to at least create some sort of focus in here. Throwing it away is stupid.
I like chats. But they only work when you have a even a false semblance of trust between each other. There's 35 people in the game, at least 27 are town, that's a huge mine of people to trust. I'm not angry that Kyan scum reads me, we could talk about that. I'm pissed and confused that he did it without bothering to understand me or talk about it, and shot me wanting my flip. If out of 35 people I, who he recruited, is who he scum reads most then I don't think there's something to talk about. He couldn't even give me the benefit of doubt before turning to killing me. I can't trust someone like that at all. I can handle someone being suspicious or not believing me, but I really don't care to engage with someone hostile 24/7. Just isn't appealing to me.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I don't know, it would probably be easy to say you're scum and OMGUS etc, but I'm not interested in that. Your role gives me pause on saying you're scum, and the way you've been playing is chaotic to me so I can't say either way. I think town, neutral and scum are all possible atm, and I would need to see more vote data to get a handle.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I think this is the part where we can talk and try to understand each other. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt right here and will continue to do so until you flip, start open wolfing, or get confirmed as alignment X. I have not been hostile 24/7, or really at all I hope. My view is what it is right now and it is certainly possible to change it. The whole chat, much like the main thread that it is a natural extension of, is about understanding others.

The biggest show of trust is to try and solve others. I want to see you as town. I want you to see that I want to see this. To that end, one's gotta get solving.

@Kyanrute who are you thinking about recruiting?

Anybody you'd want in here?
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
as a less serious sidenote, one more "kyan plays the off-threads instead of the main thread" -game

why is this a pattern
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
and it doesn't even conform to the good old "kyan in off-chat? scum" -pattern. used to be that I never got these. now, couple in a row. wait no fucking way that EZA was the last game without scum/cult/town off-chats for me.

hell, pure hell
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
perhaps night-chat immunity could be a good modifier

putting that in that game that I surely will finish designing in a decade or two
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Terrible roll for me. down to 40.

i need to buy a property for cheap @Kyanrute before the next roll then sell it back so I have money for the last roll
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
you are better to hold the jail card in case you are put in jail because then you might be stuck recruiting from a very small pool
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
paging @Kyanrute

we want to get all the property shenanigans with Sorian done ASAP

trade sorian the jail card for zero, he is greenchecked and will probably die if you don't do this.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
There a need for more than the card? I still have one property that I could sell. Not sure what that'd achieve though. You'll live, sans doubles, right?
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
There a need for more than the card? I still have one property that I could sell. Not sure what that'd achieve though. You'll live, sans doubles, right?

I'm very very likely to be fine if I get 51 for my property. A couple of weird doubles could screw me. But I don't think there is any way out of that situation. It is just the game.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
I can spare 51 if you don't find a buyer for it. Well, maybe not 51 exactly, because that'd take me to a number divisible by 10. Need to ask Geno where I am at now.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
more than one team. hmmm

might explain some of the tension in here
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
That an implication that you think me and Vere are both scum, just on the opposite teams?

The implication is more that Verelios is scum tbh.

That he is aware that a second team exists and why he has been so cautious.

If you are mafia you use this thread to build up some town cred, you don't throw suspicion on the one person you recruited.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I guess we have to wait for the final board before we can see who you are in range to recruit.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Recruitment should not be restricted. I see no mention of 12 spaces being a thing for day actions and I think Geno might've confirmed this in the thread too.

Haven't recruited anybody yet though, kinda thought about getting Nat in now. Or Sorian.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
If you are mafia you use this thread to build up some town cred, you don't throw suspicion on the one person you recruited.

I'd argue that if you ignore my suspicions about Vere, all I have been doing here is to build up some town cred. In a way, I think this chat has felt slightly similar to the ones I had in Mary Gary as scum. The fear of being getting caught is missing though, I really like that. Not that it is something that can be shown though, heh.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Recruitment should not be restricted. I see no mention of 12 spaces being a thing for day actions and I think Geno might've confirmed this in the thread too.

Haven't recruited anybody yet though, kinda thought about getting Nat in now. Or Sorian.

It is a thing for ITA shots.

If it is a day thing then is it based on the board as it is right now?

Don't get Sorian. i need less of him tbh. Natiko seems like a good pick.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
awww but Sorian + you are soooo good together

tbh I have no idea if it is restricted or not, gonna toss out a command to see.
 

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
to think that with this recruitment, we'll have four different alignments in the same chat!

peace and prosperity, everyone
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
i guess turm couldn't self target.

That is the role i had in Simon Says and I could.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Man I’m too high for this. I saw lots of town cult and I’m gonna just believe that at face value for now and worry about the rest in the morning lol
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Man I’m too high for this. I saw lots of town cult and I’m gonna just believe that at face value for now and worry about the rest in the morning lol

Hi Natiko
only townies here

*wink*

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Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I can't believe everyone is getting a free night chat. Really makes our thread feel a little less special.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Okay, I have read all the things. I will say I come away feeling like kyan is either town or a benign neutral. Plus if he’s evil then I’m already in the snare so it’s a bit irrelevant lol You were completely null to me before so a nice change. Anyone have any questions for me? You too @Verelios if you wanna come back.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Lol just read the main thread. Nevermind on that unless you ask it before we have to switch accounts cause I’m way too lazy to be logging in and out
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I guess we need to stick by the rules even in here so there isn't much we can actually talk about without breaking the rules.

Unless we have any info to share about items and night actions once the day starts.

Any thoughts on who is dead? Bear maybe for killing EC?
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
Well that’s lucky news. Gives us a little insight for the day which is helpful. Plus now we also can be sure the various factions out there also probably will have extra insight. But we need to be careful about self-identifying and getting ourselves modkilled.
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
On a different note does anyone here have any idea who any people’s flavor are? I haven’t been paying attention to that and I received an item that I have no use for.
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
Just post what the item is. People could have any flavor based on any game they have been in or run.

I don't know what the rules are with sending items today. Like can you give them via PM to actual accounts on ERA or would you have to guess who they are on Outer?
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
That’s a great question - I don’t actually know. I have two and will be sending them both away - Gartic Phone and Gnosia for Nintendo Switch.
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
That’s a great question - I don’t actually know. I have two and will be sending them both away - Gartic Phone and Gnosia for Nintendo Switch.

Those are both Games. So they might belong to the people who ran the games.

Thinking about it now, Buck Bumble should have wet to sparks.

@Geno what are our restrictions on collectively pulling on info here on working out who belongs to which costume account?
 
Those are both Games. So they might belong to the people who ran the games.

Thinking about it now, Buck Bumble should have wet to sparks.

@Geno what are our restrictions on collectively pulling on info here on working out who belongs to which costume account?
I'm not sure I understand this
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
The Gartic Phone could be for players who are Lokiduck or Vere

Gnosia was made by Randomless.

Those are both Games. So they might belong to the people who ran the games.

Thinking about it now, Buck Bumble should have wet to sparks.

@Geno what are our restrictions on collectively pulling on info here on working out who belongs to which costume account?

The person playing as Sparks I should say.
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
My conspiracy theory for the day is that at least 1 of the extra players in the costume game is @lokiduck

We already know you are attentively watching the game, posting reactions in this chat, why not throw yourself into the costume game (and troll Sorian)
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
so did sparks one sided lover make him do the weird stuff or did sparks do it on their own?

now to search the main thread to find out where sparks crumbed his lover.

It could be Fandorin. Because when Faddy said that Sorian was masons with Sparks they put down a bet. That could be the crumb.
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
wee said they were a cop. have they shared anything they might have gotten?
Nah, not so far at least. Mostly just guesses at who people are but I haven’t exactly been around to engage so that’s probably more on me than wee.

Also I can’t share the thing I got yet but once we are no longer costumes I’ll share it in the main thread if I get the chance (well even if I die no one can stop me since it’s not game related).
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
In case this is important.

My partner Carl is Ynnek. They claimed to have motivated @Illuminati member 4 during the night as they requested in the main thread.

I assum e from what was said that Vere was indeed motivated.
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
Blue Ranger+ San Franpsycho - Natiko and Wee
Pink Ranger+ Carl - Me and Kyan
Goldar+ Honey - Stan and X
Zordon+ Catalina - Sawneeks and X
Rita Repulsa+ Pazzo Ghost Clown
Black Ranger+ Captain Picard - X and Leo
Illuminati Member 2+ Michael
Illuminati Member 3+ Baba Yaga - Kyan and Terra
Illuminati Member 5+ Barack Obama -
Tommy V+ Rey + Illuminati Member 4 - X and X and Verrelios
Claude+ Ghost of Stealin Stan
Niko+ Captain Skunkbeard
Thresh+ Spider-man
Bob Ross+ Lightning Strikes
Kool Aid Man+ Barney - X and Fate
Q+ Cinderella
Minecraft Steve+ Yami Bakura

Anyone want to add to this.
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
One costume replaced in, idr which but that person we can connect tomorrow if we make note of it. Catalina is Jman almost certainly I think.
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
Okay, Claude is good people. That’s all I can say at this time. Not sure who the player is though which is unfortunate
 

Illuminati member 3

Costume Account
Catalina = Jman, absolutely.
Black Ranger could be Hedin, someone made that guess and it feels ok.
Pazzo bought a nuke = lots of money, which Fran claimed to have last night. Not sure if it is a match though.

Yeah, Claude made a fair amount of sense today imo.
 

Illuminati member 3

Costume Account
When the Honey talk started, I went over to read the posts. They feel rather Sparky and I thought "is there a way Sparks had many accounts?"

and then this. Didn't expect the death though, that is very strange. Hidden vigi?
 

Pink Ranger

Costume Account
When the Honey talk started, I went over to read the posts. They feel rather Sparky and I thought "is there a way Sparks had many accounts?"

and then this. Didn't expect the death though, that is very strange. Hidden vigi?

Nah Geno just killed Sparks and then didn't kill the other account now just because. Then we started voting honey so he decided to do the flip.

At least that is what i think.
 

Blue Ranger

Costume Account
Probably didn’t want to let us be mad at voting out an already dead player and possibly killing Stan in the process lol
 
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