Chuggernaut
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brazil no lmfao
Event Thread Volcano Island 2 Mafia
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Chuggernaut
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watch him be the jester
That’s a weird question from someone who was agonizing about them maybe being the Jester 20 minutes ago.
10% chance to get info in two games simultaneously. Sounds good to me.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Thank you for the support bro o7
..even though I was wrong. I was cracking up reading his posts as I caught up lol
How about a good ol fashioned
VOTE: Zippedpinhead
One less potential vote for me, thank you Jester deterrence.
Disagree, I think ITA’ing someone that’s also in here wouldn’t really help the jester; Kawl could’ve been scum and then town would’ve been closer to a win for instance. Case open on being mafia though.
Sawneeks
little green dog
because it's one thing to speculate on someone being a jester here and the other to just shoot them and kill them in two places.
you just never mentioned anything about kawl before in the main thread so i was shocked to see you even go for him there. hence why i asked why you shot him
Yeah I'm thinking Brazil is either the Jester here or scum in the main thread. Or both!
Unvote
Chuggernaut
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Yeah I think I agree with Fando here. Just really don't see jester doing this. Most likely scenario he just wiffs it anyway
You’re giving what I did more hindsight weight than it deserves. It’s 10%. Every other shot missed. I did it on a whim - I’d have to spend my shot at some point any way.
Plus Kawl is someone who I wouldn’t be able to predict as a Jester. Haven’t seen much of them in previous games.
It's a move that benefits both Mafia and Jester, but does not benefit Town. Very cool.
It does not benefit the Jester to kill someone who was voting for them.
If it gets everyone else to vote for the Jester it does
Sawneeks
little green dog
so you shot Kawl in the main thread because you didn't know what he was here? Like, the worst that can happen is he scum there and gets an item. Having seen no read about kawl in the main thread i have no clue if you scum read him, town read him, etc. etc. so yes i am going to raise an eyebrow that you tried (and just happened to succed) in shooting him.
i dont believe this makes you jester, as you have a point that kawl was voting you. i do think this makes your main thread alignment scum tho
Sawneeks
little green dog
like, if i suspected one of you in here to be the Jester that doesn't mean I'm going to shoot you in the main thread. What you are here doesn't primarily effect what you are in the main game but the main game does effect what you are here.
If i thought that Zipped was the Jester but i had no read of him in the main game I'm not gonna go kill him in the main thread because what if he's like a Doctor or something. I'd make my decision here and not there.
so shooting kawl for something here is wild to me. it feels like you never cared what his alignment would actually be.
If i thought that Zipped was the Jester but i had no read of him in the main game I'm not gonna go kill him in the main thread because what if he's like a Doctor or something. I'd make my decision here and not there.
so shooting kawl for something here is wild to me. it feels like you never cared what his alignment would actually be.
Volcano Island 2 Votes: With any Kawl vote or on Kawl removed.
Zippedpinhead: 1
Natiko
Sawneeks: 1
Fandorin
Brazil: 1
Sawneeks
(Randomless)
Fran: 0
(NeonBorealis)
(TheChuggernaut)
Day ends in 7 hours 13 minutes. I'm going to bed, if you turbo and you send me a night action the next day starts. If not I end the day when I wake up.
Zippedpinhead: 1
Natiko
Sawneeks: 1
Fandorin
Brazil: 1
Sawneeks
(Randomless)
Fran: 0
(NeonBorealis)
(TheChuggernaut)
Day ends in 7 hours 13 minutes. I'm going to bed, if you turbo and you send me a night action the next day starts. If not I end the day when I wake up.
You’re not wrong. I wasn’t too invested in the Kawl flip out there, no. That’s what I told you earlier - I shot on a whim. 10%.
The only part of your post that I guess I can’t relate to is the idea that “what if they’re a doctor?”, because 1: It’s a Geno game, I’m really not gonna bother thinking about PRs, and 2: you also shot at Vere. What if you hit and he was the doctor?
So you’re right: you’ve put more thought into my shot than I did. I just wanted to maybe get a good flip out of two. If you think that makes me there!scum or here!scum, it’s up to you.
The only part of your post that I guess I can’t relate to is the idea that “what if they’re a doctor?”, because 1: It’s a Geno game, I’m really not gonna bother thinking about PRs, and 2: you also shot at Vere. What if you hit and he was the doctor?
So you’re right: you’ve put more thought into my shot than I did. I just wanted to maybe get a good flip out of two. If you think that makes me there!scum or here!scum, it’s up to you.
Do @Franconp and @Zippedpinhead have any takes on... me, I guess?
I gotta figure a vote out before going to bed.
I gotta figure a vote out before going to bed.
I should vote before going to bed because I think day ends while I'm sleeping but I don't know who to vote for.
Zipped posted only once about how he has barely time to play one game of Mafia, so that tells me he's either lazy Town or Jester and is betting on a mercy vote. I think scum would be more invested.
Zipped posted only once about how he has barely time to play one game of Mafia, so that tells me he's either lazy Town or Jester and is betting on a mercy vote. I think scum would be more invested.
I agree... Although I do vaguely recall Zipped being scum and barely posting at all at some point. Maybe Marvel Mafia?
I don't want to vote Sawneeks today, I like what she's been posting in here and also in the main thread so it wouldn't be terrible if she got the reward.
Still think Brazil has a good Jester chance.
That's the only 3 wagons lol
Still think Brazil has a good Jester chance.
That's the only 3 wagons lol
Yeah Zipped is usually near the bottom of the post count list regardless of alignment.
I actually don't think Neon is a bad vote. They seem unlikely to be the Jester based off their inoffensive play thus far in here. Could be scum, if they're town it's not the end of the world.
Fando is probably an okay vote too. I think he'd be less defensive of the brother-fight-to-the-death meme if he was Jester. I kinda get town vibes from him here though, which is funny because that is not what I get from the main thread.
Fando is probably an okay vote too. I think he'd be less defensive of the brother-fight-to-the-death meme if he was Jester. I kinda get town vibes from him here though, which is funny because that is not what I get from the main thread.
If it's between Neon and Sawneeks I'd go Neon, don't particularly love being on the same wagon as Brazil.
You know I could see scum!Chuggs or scum!Nat too. Wow this is really WIFOM hell isn't it
You know I could see scum!Chuggs or scum!Nat too. Wow this is really WIFOM hell isn't it
Fuck it I'm gonna flip a coin
Heads Neon, Tails Fando
Heads Neon, Tails Fando
Vote: Neon
Sorry Neon
Chuggernaut
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I'm telling you man you just can't think about it too hard. It's bad enough as is, but having the entire main game to consider to some degree too makes this shit kind of absurd
Chuggernaut
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I think I'd rather go Sawneeks here. Feel like she tried to use the games action to push in the direction of a brazil vote and that's a very unjester thing to do.
Vote: Sawneeks
Vote: Sawneeks
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I really don’t have enough time to play two games of mafia. I’ll try though. Still vanilla town.
hey who should I ITA in the main game?
Sawneeks
little green dog
but does that make it a scum thing to do? or is it more likely im town
:u
Had to go out for some shopping chores. I'm back and hopefully I can be here for a while.
So. First things first. If I'm going to think about this game, I need to organize my thoughts.
Starting with the scum players. Regardless of alignment in the main game, they's want to obtain the item and that means not letting either town or the jester win. As a result their best play would be to try to get the townies vote out while avoiding obvious jester behaviour. They's probably be cautious with the Jester and would prioritize them (or players that seem ejsters) as NK material since they can't risk them getting lynched. A strategy would be to sortof claim jester. But that could backfire by the Jester actively working to out them as scum, so that is not the bset plan.
The jester on the other hand, will be the one most likely to be aggressive. Either calling attention to themselves or acting in a way that will obviously paint them as scum later on. Getting a read on them will be difficult.
Townies have it the most difficult as they need to eliminate both scum while avoiding the Jester. I'd expect them to be the most passive since they have a lot of enemies and the numbers don't do them any favors.
Now, lets see numbers:
We have
6 Townies
2 Goons
1 Jester
Not a lot to go on for the time being. Kawl's interactions also don't give much given the small time he got to play (rip). The players that voted for him were both Natiko and Chuggs, and both of them seem to be overly serious posts.
Except it kinda almost is. Given the low number of players, any mislynch will put us into Mylo teritory by next day (assuming Scum hits town), I'd advise not rushing into trains.
So. First things first. If I'm going to think about this game, I need to organize my thoughts.
Starting with the scum players. Regardless of alignment in the main game, they's want to obtain the item and that means not letting either town or the jester win. As a result their best play would be to try to get the townies vote out while avoiding obvious jester behaviour. They's probably be cautious with the Jester and would prioritize them (or players that seem ejsters) as NK material since they can't risk them getting lynched. A strategy would be to sortof claim jester. But that could backfire by the Jester actively working to out them as scum, so that is not the bset plan.
The jester on the other hand, will be the one most likely to be aggressive. Either calling attention to themselves or acting in a way that will obviously paint them as scum later on. Getting a read on them will be difficult.
Townies have it the most difficult as they need to eliminate both scum while avoiding the Jester. I'd expect them to be the most passive since they have a lot of enemies and the numbers don't do them any favors.
Now, lets see numbers:
We have
6 Townies
2 Goons
1 Jester
Not a lot to go on for the time being. Kawl's interactions also don't give much given the small time he got to play (rip). The players that voted for him were both Natiko and Chuggs, and both of them seem to be overly serious posts.
Except it kinda almost is. Given the low number of players, any mislynch will put us into Mylo teritory by next day (assuming Scum hits town), I'd advise not rushing into trains.
Player analysis so far:
Fandorin: Has so far said that he doesn't feel that Brazil is the Jester. Doesn't discard the possiblity of him being Mafia. Votes for Saw with the reasoning of her first virtue signaling while talking of gaming the system and then trying to pit the brothers agains each other being incongruous. At least, that's my take on it I didn't take those posts as anything other than a joke on game start.
Fran: Not very active after the beggining. Probably sleeping or busy. Was the first to put forth going after either Fando or Brazil given their percieved tendency to coincide in votes (this is more of a meta read, so grain of salt).
Brazil: He has actually used the two rooms as a mechanic so far. Both sharing reads in thread and having an action that actively affected this thread (the Kawl incident). Granted. given the chance of the action happening, I could see Brazil's reasoning of wanting to potentially have one less question mark to worry about and hoping he'd hit jester or scum.
Natiko: Not much to go on. Wasn'ta fan of going for either of the brothers and voted for Kawl. Then Zipped and then changed to Saw. Seems to be going a bit with the flow.
Zippedpinhead: Not active enough to get a read. Could be that he is busy or he could be trying to lay low. Hasn't really registered in the main game. Could be scum trying to lie low or Jester hoping to get picked off by town.
TheChuggernaut: The one most likely to wing it out of this group. Has stated multiple times that he isn't taking this game seriously because there's the other game going on (honestly, I don't blame him). Then again, he did mention that he doesn't feel like Brazil is jester and then voted for Saw with the assumption that she isn't jester and is more likely to hit scum. Dunno. to me it feels a bit echoey of Fando's reasoning whilegiving it a slightly different coat of paint.
Randomless: Has been somewhat inconsistent all day. His opinions have constantly fluctuated, sometimes within one post. Opinions on Brazil's jesteryness, and first agreeing with me and then considering me a good target for a lynch. I'd say that right now he is the one that feels more jestery to me.
Sawneeks: Very active in thread (and in game). Clled Brazil out for his actions in game that got Kawl killed and ultimately voted for him. As chuggs said, that doesn't seem articularly jestery and she could be scum. But i'm nnot sure if I buy that.
Current votes:
Sawneeks: 3
Fandorin
TheChuggernaut
Natiko
Brazil: 1
Sawneeks
NeonBorealis: 2
Brazil
Randomness
Not voting:
Zippedinhead
NeonBorealis
Fran
Fandorin: Has so far said that he doesn't feel that Brazil is the Jester. Doesn't discard the possiblity of him being Mafia. Votes for Saw with the reasoning of her first virtue signaling while talking of gaming the system and then trying to pit the brothers agains each other being incongruous. At least, that's my take on it I didn't take those posts as anything other than a joke on game start.
Fran: Not very active after the beggining. Probably sleeping or busy. Was the first to put forth going after either Fando or Brazil given their percieved tendency to coincide in votes (this is more of a meta read, so grain of salt).
Brazil: He has actually used the two rooms as a mechanic so far. Both sharing reads in thread and having an action that actively affected this thread (the Kawl incident). Granted. given the chance of the action happening, I could see Brazil's reasoning of wanting to potentially have one less question mark to worry about and hoping he'd hit jester or scum.
Natiko: Not much to go on. Wasn'ta fan of going for either of the brothers and voted for Kawl. Then Zipped and then changed to Saw. Seems to be going a bit with the flow.
Zippedpinhead: Not active enough to get a read. Could be that he is busy or he could be trying to lay low. Hasn't really registered in the main game. Could be scum trying to lie low or Jester hoping to get picked off by town.
TheChuggernaut: The one most likely to wing it out of this group. Has stated multiple times that he isn't taking this game seriously because there's the other game going on (honestly, I don't blame him). Then again, he did mention that he doesn't feel like Brazil is jester and then voted for Saw with the assumption that she isn't jester and is more likely to hit scum. Dunno. to me it feels a bit echoey of Fando's reasoning whilegiving it a slightly different coat of paint.
Randomless: Has been somewhat inconsistent all day. His opinions have constantly fluctuated, sometimes within one post. Opinions on Brazil's jesteryness, and first agreeing with me and then considering me a good target for a lynch. I'd say that right now he is the one that feels more jestery to me.
Sawneeks: Very active in thread (and in game). Clled Brazil out for his actions in game that got Kawl killed and ultimately voted for him. As chuggs said, that doesn't seem articularly jestery and she could be scum. But i'm nnot sure if I buy that.
Current votes:
Sawneeks: 3
Fandorin
TheChuggernaut
Natiko
Brazil: 1
Sawneeks
NeonBorealis: 2
Brazil
Randomness
Not voting:
Zippedinhead
NeonBorealis
Fran
My groupings/rankings:
Feeling town:
Sawneeks (slightly, but could be going towards null)
Feeling null
Bazil (feelings sliding into townie with a wild plan).
Maybe Zippedinhead
Feeling scum:
Fandorin
Natiko.
TheChuggernaut (slightly)
Feeling Jester:
Randomless
Maybe Zippedinhead
Not enough information:
Fran
Out of my scum reads, I'd go for Natiko since he seems to be trying to blend into the background. So that's where my vote is going to go.
Vote: Natiko
Feeling town:
Sawneeks (slightly, but could be going towards null)
Feeling null
Bazil (feelings sliding into townie with a wild plan).
Maybe Zippedinhead
Feeling scum:
Fandorin
Natiko.
TheChuggernaut (slightly)
Feeling Jester:
Randomless
Maybe Zippedinhead
Not enough information:
Fran
Out of my scum reads, I'd go for Natiko since he seems to be trying to blend into the background. So that's where my vote is going to go.
Vote: Natiko
Sawneeks
little green dog
Hrm. Im here for a little while longer and then im getting some sleep. likely missing day end since it'll be 2 AM my time.
Reading Neon's post I dont think he's Jester. thats a lot of pro-town work for someone trying to get themselves killed. If anything, I think he's Town with all of that. Nat I could go either way on and will move my vote to try and save myself but i still think i'd prefer Brazil over everyone.
Reading Neon's post I dont think he's Jester. thats a lot of pro-town work for someone trying to get themselves killed. If anything, I think he's Town with all of that. Nat I could go either way on and will move my vote to try and save myself but i still think i'd prefer Brazil over everyone.
Chuggernaut
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It is mostly vibes, and I think that the bit with her speaking about gaming the system was mostly as a joke of D1 suqred. Her questioning of Brazil could also be scum trying to get a townie killed, but gven the cirsumstances, scum wouldn't want ot target jester, and at the moment of Kawl's demise, everyone's knee jerk reaction was probably (huh, Brazil is probably the jester). Then again, as I said, I am biased since I've never seen (or remember) scum Saw.
I see two possibilities:
- Saw is town and is seeing Brazil as scum. If she thought that Brazil was jester, she wouldn't want to vote for him. In her mind, Brazil killing Kawl was a way of him thinning the numbers and possibly hitting jester.
- Saw is scum and is trying to get rid of Brazil as he is town. Could work since he is the center of attention. But I think that plan is flawed in that she is next after Brazil flips, And there's the real possibility of scum not hitting or avoiding jester, which would mean leaving one lone scum member against 4 townies and a jester. Which is not ideal.
Chuggernaut
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Okay yeah I see your point about the scum strat for neeks there being kind of short sighted. The one part that does give me pause is Neeks did seem to kind of throw in the towel which did give me kind of jester vibes, but we can't really do anything about that
What is your gut telling you about who could be scum and whop could be jester?
Sawneeks
little green dog
Brazil I don't think is jester because his move was too blatant for that. He could be scum or town but I lean the former.
I don't think you're jester either with your post, it wouldn't make sense. You could be scum here just putting in work but...I don't think so.
Zipped/Fran/Nat are so quiet and with so few it's hard for me to tell in any way.
Fando is so quiet and seems...unsure? He might be Jester and not too sure what to do. I feel like if he were scum here he'd be more confident.
Chuggs I don't think is jester either. Feel liked he'd be more...combative? With it. I could go either way with him being scum or town tbh. Kinda feeling town since if he was scum he'd just sit on me instead of that unvote there. It tells me he's trying to figure this out.
And Random?
Sawneeks
little green dog
Knew I was forgetting someone lol.
Reading back he isn't giving me the strong town soul read he is in the main thread could just be because there aren't a ton of posts here, though.
I think of Brazil is scum here then he and Random aren't teamed together. He went there early and only unvoted after the shot, which only makes sense if they were teamed in the main thread too. It's too many maybes for me to bet on confidentally.
I don't think Jester here either. Scum/Town I could weirdly go 50/50 on and that is making me lean scum more because of it.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Vote: Natiko
Because I like what Neon is putting down and therefore trust him, this is a vote to save myself because I know I'm town, and people don't seem to want to follow me on Brazil for some reason. I have little against Nat but I think other players (like Fando) or more likely to be Jester than he is. Plus, he might actually be scum here lol.
Gnight folks. It's been fun.
Because I like what Neon is putting down and therefore trust him, this is a vote to save myself because I know I'm town, and people don't seem to want to follow me on Brazil for some reason. I have little against Nat but I think other players (like Fando) or more likely to be Jester than he is. Plus, he might actually be scum here lol.
Gnight folks. It's been fun.
Chuggernaut
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i'm about to go to sleep and I don't think it's neeks or neon right now and i don't think i can get this to move one way or the other if I go for anyone else.
Vote: Natiko
if you're town i'm sorry
Vote: Natiko
if you're town i'm sorry
Agreed
I think this is just OMGUS. Please link me the post where my opinions fluctuated in the same post. I read all my posts here, couldn't find one example.
I think Nat was fine as a wagon but there was very likely scum on there.
Why do you say that? Are you scumreading Saw and/or Neon?
If neither of them are scum, they could've just let it happen naturally without even moving.
4 votes is a huge amount with only 9 people around. It was a town wagon, scum probably wanted to get it done. Sure you could say Nat could've been Jester, but frankly I did not see Jester vibes from what little he posted.
I'd actually pick Chuggs I think out of that list. For someone who has said he was just gonna wing it and not care he seems to actually care a bit. Although to be fair, I am guilty of the same, but at least this is a consistent pattern for me. I always say oh I'm gonna take it easy this time, then I get invested. Or I say oh I'm gonna stop playing Mafia and go to bed, and I don't, and then I have an absolutely horrible sleep like what happened last night.
Also remember that scum don't get a day chat, they only get a night chat, so looking for interactions between two scum on D1 will be harder than it will be today.
Also remember that scum don't get a day chat, they only get a night chat, so looking for interactions between two scum on D1 will be harder than it will be today.
Where is that written?
It's on the Mafia Scum Wiki page, and Geno has not contradicted it. I suppose we can ping him and ask.
@Geno do they only get night chat like the Wiki page says?
Fuck
Well thanks for answering at least
On the bright side D1 interactions now become analyzable, on the dark side that makes things much easier for them.
Vote: Chuggernaut
Chuggernaut
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no yeah that's my bad. too much thinking not enough vibing. Was going to say Neeks and Random, but Random thinking there's not a scum chat during the day feels genuine. so it's probably Neeks and Neon
Vote: Sawneeks
Vote: Sawneeks
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Lmfao at the thread speculation about this shit by the way
Franconp
Frank
I still think that no lynch is the right choice today
4-2-1 right now. If we no lynch either scum kills the jester and we are 4-2 tomorrow but we don't have to worry about the jester or scum kills a townie and we are 3-2-1 but the jester and scum can't win together so they can't cooperate to lynch town.
4-2-1 right now. If we no lynch either scum kills the jester and we are 4-2 tomorrow but we don't have to worry about the jester or scum kills a townie and we are 3-2-1 but the jester and scum can't win together so they can't cooperate to lynch town.
If we vote out somebody who isn't the Jester today we don't lose, no?
4-2-1
Vote out town
Scum kill town
2-2-1 ELo
4-2-1
Vote out scum
Scum kill town
3-1-1
4-2-1
Vote out town
Scum kill Jester
3-2 ELo
4-2-1
Vote out scum
Scum kill Jester
4-1
Only lose if we vote out Jester. I see what you mean by forcing scum to do our dirty work and then they can't work together though. It's worth thinking about.
This is my take; Sneeks read list is pure paranoia and that's my meta-read on her. Chuggs bussing fits as well, I say we flip Sneeks and solve it from there. Random seems genuine here and in main thread, while Neon seemed intent on solving.
I think no lynch is a mistake; worst case scenario we could have 2-2-1 as Rando pointed out and jester self-hammer would be nasty. Rather we get the info now that we have more players instead of leaving it to chance.
Rereading Chuggs and realizing its pretty bad, like jester bad. Vote progression is really weird and all over the place, and this second vote on Sneeks is already weird, but weirder is this throaway mention on potentially voting for Random, which is pretty widly town read (here and in the main thread). Reads like fake content.
Franconp
Frank
You may want to reread the main thread lol.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I would not vote Random in the main thread tbf
Don't think I'd vote you in the main thread either friendo
Did you change your mind on no voting?
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