Scum Thread OH NO! IT IS THE DEN OF THE LOVELESS!
- Thread starter The Bear
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Houseboat
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I'd say Donnie, but Donnie is one of us, so...
Gondola
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:parmesan:
Galleon calling me slow :cor: I've been trying to play all day, not my fault every time I look everything is just "boat"
Anyone you'd like to vote Kyan?
Gondola
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I have nobody in mind. Mentally still at the "don't wanna vote for these folks" phase.
Galleon's burn was good.
Gondola
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Kind of hoping Galleon picks up some heat here, Sub leading a vote that fails would be some good natural depreciation of their standing and maybe make ducky less sure on them and we could kill jet ski tonight. If it was safe I'd probably be sitting a vote on you right now Rando/EC for future optics
Gondola
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Nah i wouldn't right now lol don't worry. I won't vote unless we're in agreement on something Kyan, and we're only half way through the day, still plenty of time
Houseboat
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Yeah, I'm working on having something ready to go if other people challenge me on that statement. People seem to have blown past it at the moment to complain about their partners, lol.
Houseboat
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Maybe they're trying to pretend to be me, since I haven't played since, what, February?
Yacht
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Ael mentioned being out of practice in signup, could be!
Houseboat
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That's the nice thing about this game, if one person on the account has an off day, the other person is there to pick up the proverbial slack.
Yacht
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@Houseboat thinking of throwing some more pressure your way (basically not liking your timeline mixup and prepared explanation) but also aware it's a little precarious for you at the moment, what are you thinking in terms of diverting attention away?
Yacht
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Some more id guesses
Jet Ski - the grandstanding / desire to be the center of attention feels like it could be a bit closer to Sorians persona than it does Chuggs?
Sub - loki for non-italics (fairly sure) - possibly wee for non-italics but that is more a vibe
Cruise - a bit of Ty maybe? The opener about pairs and inconsistencies being a crutch seems to fit
Kayak - #415 seems like a Zeke-ism
Jet Ski - the grandstanding / desire to be the center of attention feels like it could be a bit closer to Sorians persona than it does Chuggs?
Sub - loki for non-italics (fairly sure) - possibly wee for non-italics but that is more a vibe
Cruise - a bit of Ty maybe? The opener about pairs and inconsistencies being a crutch seems to fit
Kayak - #415 seems like a Zeke-ism
Yacht
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I think the combination of the pre-typing and having it saved in your back pocket for when you get questioned further looks worse. But it's good that some find it too scummy to be credible, esp the more town read submarine.
It feels like the easiest save would be to have the Rando half clarify a bit that the other half of HB can get misread and they had given some advice to make the progression on their read clearer as it was coming across confusingly.
Gondola
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guh I'm sorry Houseboat, it's hard not to put a vote on you right now, if I wait til later it'll just look like me too. I left the door open for Kyan to take it elsewhere though and I tried to soften the *slip* which is the thing that actually seems to have riled people. That's definitely Zeke on Kayak, there's no mistaking that. Do we want to tyr and come up with a gameplan here to see if we can rally elsewher eor are we just hoping town towns and drifts elsewhere?
Yacht
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There is some appetite for a non houseboat vote from some louder voices but I'm not sure a consensus will be found in the few hours that are remaining.
Candidates that I can see:
Galleon - hasn't done much beyond a weak opening vote on HB which they are stubbornly sticking to. Notably didn't react much to the "slip"
Lifeboat - has mostly avoided the HB issue and despite throwing out more shade isn't creating much pressure with their kayak vote
Kayak - overexplained their vote on HB and waited for Jet Ski to go onto us
Worth noting that a couple of people could go for us (Yacht) as well and a scum team with HB but not yacht would likely be appraising that.
Candidates that I can see:
Galleon - hasn't done much beyond a weak opening vote on HB which they are stubbornly sticking to. Notably didn't react much to the "slip"
Lifeboat - has mostly avoided the HB issue and despite throwing out more shade isn't creating much pressure with their kayak vote
Kayak - overexplained their vote on HB and waited for Jet Ski to go onto us
Worth noting that a couple of people could go for us (Yacht) as well and a scum team with HB but not yacht would likely be appraising that.
Gondola
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I think if someone votes on Galleon there could be a crumble to them. IDeally here town does that themselves and we can hold tight. Kyan if you want to make a move and we call it a partner change, cruiseship has posted a decent case on Galleon that can be followed (and there's the townleader on there ) and also I think there's a decent case that can be put together on Kayak. If we change, we just have to make sure there's some good justification with it and it's not a sentence and a vote lol
Houseboat
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I can do this if my other half is okay with it, say something to the effect of "I don't know what my partner is doing but this isn't really out of character for them. I'm just gonna try to do my own thing".
Or I can just claim doctor with like an hour or two left in the day.
Or I can do both.
Gondola
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Lmfao :sicko: I think something like the first part is a good idea, i think youre quite good at getting people to town read you if you can get going. Just do a reads list even
Yacht
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Yacht
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By the way regarding claims at some point I was thinking of doing a pair design and was looking at love boat for examples, here are some of the role lists from past games:
Obviously some of these are quite old and Bears design sense has probably changed over the years but the power level looks pretty consistent so I'd expect ~5 vanillas, a doctor, a (3-shot) tracker and then a handful of other misc roles which provide some utility and maybe something that interacts with the chat or hydra aspect.
| Love Boat |
| 30 players |
| 15 pairs |
| 3-shot tracker |
| Doctor |
| Sleepwalker |
| 1-shot target immune (first action on them fails) |
| 7 Vanilla |
| Roleblocker |
| Tracker |
| Goon |
| neutral disruptor (locks pair night chat 3 times, doesn't work on scum) |
| Love Boat 2 |
| 30 players |
| 15 pairs |
| 3-shot tracker |
| Priests (talk to the days eliminated player at night) |
| 2-shot Silencers (lock a town pair or entire scum chat) |
| Messenger |
| Virgin (Block all kills upon death, unless visited by RB) |
| Bookie who has to predict elim. 1-shot BP/cop/Double for correct guess |
| 6 vanilla |
| Loved |
| Roleblockers |
| 2-shot ninja |
| Love Boat 3 |
| 34 players |
| 17 pairs |
| Celebrity |
| Bookie - 1-shot track/bp/rb for correct guess |
| Gossip who steals a player out of the pair chat |
| Motion detector |
| Mailmen |
| Doctor |
| 1-shot vig |
| 6 vanilla |
| 1-shot ninja |
| Roleblocker |
| 2-shot role cop |
| 1-shot double vote |
Obviously some of these are quite old and Bears design sense has probably changed over the years but the power level looks pretty consistent so I'd expect ~5 vanillas, a doctor, a (3-shot) tracker and then a handful of other misc roles which provide some utility and maybe something that interacts with the chat or hydra aspect.
Yacht
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HB not sure if you need a specific role claim just yet but you'd probably want to think about which power level you'd fit in at.
A strong role and you were okay with getting some heat early to help survive long enough to use it?
A mid-strength role and you gave your buddy some advice to try to stay out of the limelight?
Or vanilla and the "self-pres" is just motivated by trying to ensure the other half of the pair has fun?
A strong role and you were okay with getting some heat early to help survive long enough to use it?
A mid-strength role and you gave your buddy some advice to try to stay out of the limelight?
Or vanilla and the "self-pres" is just motivated by trying to ensure the other half of the pair has fun?
Yacht
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Btw what reads do you think you would give if prompted for them as town in this game? I think Gondola has already setup that the early game stuff is less damning if people can see who it is in character for but I think what may be out of character is the retraction. Like people were having a hard time seeing sub shade as scummy so if you think you might have a scum read / dislike for anyone else who might be too town read to be a good and convenient counter wagon for scum to divert to that could be helpful as well.
Houseboat
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So I'd give a town read on you, since you were one of the first players attacking me for my timeline, but I worry that should we get voted off here, that makes you look like scum, because then how did you know I was scum so quickly?
Yacht
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You could give inflatable credit for the same thing if you prefer but yeah I'd worry less about what looks worse after your flip when giving reads and just see if you have any observations in your own voice even if they seem trivial.
Houseboat
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That's kinda the point, I would want to come off as friendly town and not just drop it at the last minute
Gondola
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yeah fair. is it okay if i probe the claim a little before i unvote? I'm probably going to claim having the guess caveat on mine when the time comes so i feel like it would be naturally to be wondering if you had the same. Just something like "Hmm, so you're just a straight doctor, no modifiers?"
Houseboat
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Might be a bad look to ask for info on the doctor, up to you if you want to, I don't mind either way. I will probably reply I'd rather not let out that information.
If pressed I think I'd say I'm infinite shot non-consecutive but I have to guess one of the user accounts.
Gondola
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true lol okay i can hold that one for now