Scum Thread OH NO! IT IS THE DEN OF THE LOVELESS!

Houseboat

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Galleon mentioned the duck squad, I think they were implying like Launch, EC, Leo, HP, lmao. EC they're onto you! Who would know and/or care enough to remember that joke?
 

Gondola

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#303 is such a townie post that it makes me smile. Or at least it feels like that from scum POV, townies might think it is too much.
 

Yacht

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Yeah I think I see loki in engineer #1 of the sub between the emoticons like ">:(" , ";D", *actions in asterisks* and the tumblr reference.
Thought Vere might have been one of the pun heavy accounts like beluga, but the engagement style from Inflatable could be a good line
 

Yacht

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Also other yacht lemme know if you want to get a vote down soon, I'm not too excited about anyone just yet.
 

Gondola

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Galleon does not need to believe much of what they are saying. Pushing a case, for content and future analysis after flips, can be just fine on its own.
 

Gondola

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I am glad to hear that. More fun to fight back against something entertaining than frustrating.

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From town POV, I'm positioning myself to kinda see where things go. The classic vote for a low poster / tiny sus after ruling out some folks that I wanna trust for now.
 

Gondola

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Kind of hoping Galleon picks up some heat here, Sub leading a vote that fails would be some good natural depreciation of their standing and maybe make ducky less sure on them and we could kill jet ski tonight. If it was safe I'd probably be sitting a vote on you right now Rando/EC for future optics
 

Houseboat

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I do not think it is safe but you gotta do what you gotta do.

I don't think Jet Ski or Lifeboat would vote us. Don't know about anyone else.
 

Gondola

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I do not think it is safe but you gotta do what you gotta do.

I don't think Jet Ski or Lifeboat would vote us. Don't know about anyone else.

Nah i wouldn't right now lol don't worry. I won't vote unless we're in agreement on something Kyan, and we're only half way through the day, still plenty of time
 

Gondola

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EC, you probably want to say with the principal thing you meant playing an opening vote and then the rest is explaining why you felt susser later, seperate the two statements. You've kind of justified a vote you made at game start seriously which might not go down well lol
 

Houseboat

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EC, you probably want to say with the principal thing you meant playing an opening vote and then the rest is explaining why you felt susser later, seperate the two statements. You've kind of justified a vote you made at game start seriously which might not go down well lol
Yeah, I'm working on having something ready to go if other people challenge me on that statement. People seem to have blown past it at the moment to complain about their partners, lol.
 

Gondola

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Hmm, unless inflatable boat is putting on an act, the only person I think that signed up that hasn't played in a good while is Ael. Would need to go to era and double check but I think everyone else has played recently enough they couldn't really mention it like that
 

Houseboat

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Hmm, unless inflatable boat is putting on an act, the only person I think that signed up that hasn't played in a good while is Ael. Would need to go to era and double check but I think everyone else has played recently enough they couldn't really mention it like that
Maybe they're trying to pretend to be me, since I haven't played since, what, February?
 

Houseboat

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Also...
I'm also the one manning the torpedo bays, so it makes sense for me to be the one pulling the trigger.
Am I reading too much into that thinking they have a x shot power of some sort?
 

Gondola

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Hmm no idea, i think they're just having fun roleplaying but it could be a crumb

Kyan i ate the notification by accident but cruise ship replied about something you said lol post 366
 

Yacht

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Hmm, unless inflatable boat is putting on an act, the only person I think that signed up that hasn't played in a good while is Ael. Would need to go to era and double check but I think everyone else has played recently enough they couldn't really mention it like that
Ael mentioned being out of practice in signup, could be!
 

Yacht

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Haven't really found a groove with the game yet, some light sus from kayak and lifeboat on me for not really having too much substance but I'm not seeing a lot to dig in on just yet.
 

Houseboat

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Haven't really found a groove with the game yet, some light sus from kayak and lifeboat on me for not really having too much substance but I'm not seeing a lot to dig in on just yet.
That's the nice thing about this game, if one person on the account has an off day, the other person is there to pick up the proverbial slack.
 

Yacht

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@Houseboat thinking of throwing some more pressure your way (basically not liking your timeline mixup and prepared explanation) but also aware it's a little precarious for you at the moment, what are you thinking in terms of diverting attention away?
 

Houseboat

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I can understand how "I had this pretyped" can look scummy in a regular game, but in a game with pairs? I dunno...
 

Yacht

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Some more id guesses
Jet Ski - the grandstanding / desire to be the center of attention feels like it could be a bit closer to Sorians persona than it does Chuggs?
Sub - loki for non-italics (fairly sure) - possibly wee for non-italics but that is more a vibe
Cruise - a bit of Ty maybe? The opener about pairs and inconsistencies being a crutch seems to fit
Kayak - #415 seems like a Zeke-ism
 

Yacht

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I can understand how "I had this pretyped" can look scummy in a regular game, but in a game with pairs? I dunno...
I think the combination of the pre-typing and having it saved in your back pocket for when you get questioned further looks worse. But it's good that some find it too scummy to be credible, esp the more town read submarine.
It feels like the easiest save would be to have the Rando half clarify a bit that the other half of HB can get misread and they had given some advice to make the progression on their read clearer as it was coming across confusingly.
 

Gondola

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guh I'm sorry Houseboat, it's hard not to put a vote on you right now, if I wait til later it'll just look like me too. I left the door open for Kyan to take it elsewhere though and I tried to soften the *slip* which is the thing that actually seems to have riled people. That's definitely Zeke on Kayak, there's no mistaking that. Do we want to tyr and come up with a gameplan here to see if we can rally elsewher eor are we just hoping town towns and drifts elsewhere?
 

Yacht

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There is some appetite for a non houseboat vote from some louder voices but I'm not sure a consensus will be found in the few hours that are remaining.

Candidates that I can see:

Galleon - hasn't done much beyond a weak opening vote on HB which they are stubbornly sticking to. Notably didn't react much to the "slip"
Lifeboat - has mostly avoided the HB issue and despite throwing out more shade isn't creating much pressure with their kayak vote
Kayak - overexplained their vote on HB and waited for Jet Ski to go onto us

Worth noting that a couple of people could go for us (Yacht) as well and a scum team with HB but not yacht would likely be appraising that.
 

Gondola

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The anti-House contingent is there, remains to be seen if they consolidate anywhere. Might be that we have little control over this now, besides trying to look for some alternatives like uncertain townies would. Should the worst come to pass, who does not love a D1 fake claim?
 

Gondola

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I think if someone votes on Galleon there could be a crumble to them. IDeally here town does that themselves and we can hold tight. Kyan if you want to make a move and we call it a partner change, cruiseship has posted a decent case on Galleon that can be followed (and there's the townleader on there ) and also I think there's a decent case that can be put together on Kayak. If we change, we just have to make sure there's some good justification with it and it's not a sentence and a vote lol
 

Gondola

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Keeping our votes on Houseboat and getting a townie voted out does however seem like a luxury out of our reach to me.
 

Gondola

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Houseboat, I think maybe random could be getting some goodwill by saying basically well I get you all are sus on some stuff my partner said , i can only play the game and then just build towards voting somewhere
 

Houseboat

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Houseboat, I think maybe random could be getting some goodwill by saying basically well I get you all are sus on some stuff my partner said , i can only play the game and then just build towards voting somewhere
I can do this if my other half is okay with it, say something to the effect of "I don't know what my partner is doing but this isn't really out of character for them. I'm just gonna try to do my own thing".

Or I can just claim doctor with like an hour or two left in the day.

Or I can do both.
 

Gondola

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I can do this if my other half is okay with it, say something to the effect of "I don't know what my partner is doing but this isn't really out of character for them. I'm just gonna try to do my own thing".

Or I can just claim doctor with like an hour or two left in the day.

Or I can do both.

Lmfao :sicko: I think something like the first part is a good idea, i think youre quite good at getting people to town read you if you can get going. Just do a reads list even
 

Yacht

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I am writing a big reads list now yes

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Yacht

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By the way regarding claims at some point I was thinking of doing a pair design and was looking at love boat for examples, here are some of the role lists from past games:
Love Boat
30 players
15 pairs
3-shot tracker
Doctor
Sleepwalker
1-shot target immune (first action on them fails)
7 Vanilla
Roleblocker
Tracker
Goon
neutral disruptor (locks pair night chat 3 times, doesn't work on scum)
Love Boat 2
30 players
15 pairs
3-shot tracker
Priests (talk to the days eliminated player at night)
2-shot Silencers (lock a town pair or entire scum chat)
Messenger
Virgin (Block all kills upon death, unless visited by RB)
Bookie who has to predict elim. 1-shot BP/cop/Double for correct guess
6 vanilla
Loved
Roleblockers
2-shot ninja
Love Boat 3
34 players
17 pairs
Celebrity
Bookie - 1-shot track/bp/rb for correct guess
Gossip who steals a player out of the pair chat
Motion detector
Mailmen
Doctor
1-shot vig
6 vanilla
1-shot ninja
Roleblocker
2-shot role cop
1-shot double vote

Obviously some of these are quite old and Bears design sense has probably changed over the years but the power level looks pretty consistent so I'd expect ~5 vanillas, a doctor, a (3-shot) tracker and then a handful of other misc roles which provide some utility and maybe something that interacts with the chat or hydra aspect.
 

Yacht

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HB not sure if you need a specific role claim just yet but you'd probably want to think about which power level you'd fit in at.

A strong role and you were okay with getting some heat early to help survive long enough to use it?
A mid-strength role and you gave your buddy some advice to try to stay out of the limelight?
Or vanilla and the "self-pres" is just motivated by trying to ensure the other half of the pair has fun?
 

Houseboat

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I am absolutely claiming doctor. If we get counterclaimed great, we can kill the doctor. If not I live.

I will say I told my partner to chill when we started getting heat but then there seemed to be a fumble, or something.
 

Yacht

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If you can somehow turn this around Rando...
Btw what reads do you think you would give if prompted for them as town in this game? I think Gondola has already setup that the early game stuff is less damning if people can see who it is in character for but I think what may be out of character is the retraction. Like people were having a hard time seeing sub shade as scummy so if you think you might have a scum read / dislike for anyone else who might be too town read to be a good and convenient counter wagon for scum to divert to that could be helpful as well.
 

Houseboat

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Btw what reads do you think you would give if prompted for them as town in this game? I think Gondola has already setup that the early game stuff is less damning if people can see who it is in character for but I think what may be out of character is the retraction. Like people were having a hard time seeing sub shade as scummy so if you think you might have a scum read / dislike for anyone else who might be too town read to be a good and convenient counter wagon for scum to divert to that could be helpful as well.
So I'd give a town read on you, since you were one of the first players attacking me for my timeline, but I worry that should we get voted off here, that makes you look like scum, because then how did you know I was scum so quickly?
 

Yacht

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So I'd give a town read on you, since you were one of the first players attacking me for my timeline, but I worry that should we get voted off here, that makes you look like scum, because then how did you know I was scum so quickly?
You could give inflatable credit for the same thing if you prefer but yeah I'd worry less about what looks worse after your flip when giving reads and just see if you have any observations in your own voice even if they seem trivial.
 

Houseboat

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My other half please do not post anything in the main thread about "we will claim at the top of the hour" or anything like that. I'm just gonna claim when I claim. Planning to do so in 45 minutes.
 

Gondola

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If Houseboat goes down, we should be able to get Cruise Ship after. Cruise Ship has been rather inoffensive, has defended Houseboat and with Houseboat showing willingness towards voting Galleon, there is a connection there too.
 

Gondola

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Could hold the claim a bit and see if there's movement, it's up to you, zeke is starting to make some noise too.
 

Yacht

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Was gonna post something similar, I think a claim gives the game too much focus and allows everyone to evaluate if you are a doc or not (outlook not so good) whereas the current state is a bit more fluid
 

Houseboat

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Was gonna post something similar, I think a claim gives the game too much focus and allows everyone to evaluate if you are a doc or not (outlook not so good) whereas the current state is a bit more fluid
That's kinda the point, I would want to come off as friendly town and not just drop it at the last minute
 

Gondola

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Random ,hold lmao just a bit longer, giving it till the half hour. Jet ski is probing sub and sub says they feel good on you. There's a chance here :p still plenty of day left to give them time to digest on it
 

Houseboat

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It's very easy for town to walk into the "easy" elim like that when there's 1 leading wagon. I don't think I was going to be able to sway them elsewhere even with Kayak doing weird shit.
 

Gondola

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yeah fair. is it okay if i probe the claim a little before i unvote? I'm probably going to claim having the guess caveat on mine when the time comes so i feel like it would be naturally to be wondering if you had the same. Just something like "Hmm, so you're just a straight doctor, no modifiers?"
 

Houseboat

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yeah fair. is it okay if i probe the claim a little before i unvote? I'm probably going to claim having the guess caveat on mine when the time comes so i feel like it would be naturally to be wondering if you had the same. Just something like "Hmm, so you're just a straight doctor, no modifiers?"
Might be a bad look to ask for info on the doctor, up to you if you want to, I don't mind either way. I will probably reply I'd rather not let out that information.

If pressed I think I'd say I'm infinite shot non-consecutive but I have to guess one of the user accounts.
 

Gondola

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Might be a bad look to ask for info on the doctor, up to you if you want to, I don't mind either way. I will probably reply I'd rather not let out that information.

If pressed I think I'd say I'm infinite shot non-consecutive but I have to guess one of the user accounts.

true lol okay i can hold that one for now
 

Yacht

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Leaning more toward galleon here. Thinking they mostly looked good via their push on HB and without that don't see as much good.
 

Gondola

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I'm kind of in a tough spot here lol looking back at Kyan's posts he was pretty pro galleon and I don't think kayak is going to be the vote
 

Houseboat

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You don't need to have the same reads as your partner, but yeah sorry that's tough. I think if you vote Kayak, Submarine will switch from Galleon to Yacht.

Yacht can just self-pres at least without issue.
 

Houseboat

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I think Yacht could feasibly pivot to Galleon here but it's up to you if you think that will make you look two-faced later.

I'd rather we all stack on a vote than someone die but that's just me.
 

Houseboat

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i think tying up the votes will look less bad than breaking the tie but that's just me, so maybe vote now if you are going to vote galleon?
 

Yacht

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Ooh what's happening? I guess inflatable is the tiebreaker - hoping Galleon doesn't self pres is optimistic
 
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