Blargonaut
SCUM UP!
my recent posts are breadcrumbs btw
I'm sorry dude but this is coming off way too defensive over a fairly obvious joke post to me.
i mean, i did give you a read earlier where i said you 'feel townie-y' but dont trust that since you have recent MU experience.Yeah valid, but I still don't get why I'm not seeing that here
why me in the scum lean? and if you think i'm scum would that change your read on Capt?With 24 into the game I think this is where I am:
Town
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8
[He/They] Fireblend|Febe - UTC-6
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6
Town lean
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0
[He/Him] HPSauce - UTC+0
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1
Null
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1
[He/Him] Geno - UTC
[He/Him] TheWorthyEdge - UTC-7
[He/Him] Neon|NeonBorealis - UTC-6
[He/Him] malus - UTC+1
[He/Him] The Wizard - UTC-5
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1
Scum lean
[He/Him] CaptainNuevo|Captain - UTC+9
[She/Her] Sawneeks|Sneeks - UTC-8
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6
MIA
[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8
Of course this are really early reads so they are really weak but I just wanted to put them out there. Also Fanto isn't here and someone needs to do a list. I would be happy to discuss any name if someone wants to (I'm just bored).
so how do you read me rn?It's D1, I think it usually manifests later in the game in my experience.
For some reason I get slight scum vibes off of Geno, but I dunno why.
lot's of mechanics but no reads. do you think melon is scum trying to get info out of you or just town? what about other mechanic talkers (fran, i think turm said something about sephiroth but that may have been a joke)...
(Where am I? Am I awake? Why does my head hurt?)
(How long have I been asleep?)
[NORMAL TALK]
Since it looks like night time talk is going to happen at... inconvenient times for me to catch up, I wanna let one thing be known now, roughly 23 hours in advance:
I'm unlikely to be able to move my vote around at day's end with full information. I'll keep my vote where I think it's best tonight, and catch up when I can in the morning, but it's gonna be rough due to the deluge of info.
[/NORMAL TALK]
...Whatever.
(Some people positing that scum sharing exp could make sense to balance things for them. I disagree with this notion. Assuming scum has a similar role PM to the information I have, I have to assume scum has 3 abilities each, with successively increasing xp costs. Pooling experience for them feels like it would be imbalanced. Maybe this is important? Maybe it's not. At THIS PHASE probably not.)
...I can't really be bothered.
(Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)
Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)
who would be painted from my death? so far everyone seems to have remembered i exist and is following the lead that im scummy for some reason (chuggs excluded, he explained).For lack of better targets, I guess I would shoot Alexem, Chuggs Sorian or Sneeks. Mostly to see how it paints other people stances over them.
My logic at the time for saying that Ty could be neutral or lovers is that the conversation at the moment was about that Ty's slip could be indication that he is Scum and I wanted to provide another possibility. Now that I'm more wary of Ty as I'm not sure that I buy it being a mistake completely.
As for the neutral thing. I think that day 1 should be used to explore possibilities rather than immediately going for a vote.
On another note. I can't remember, but has Blarg always been like that?
i missed you blarg it's good to see youmy recent posts are breadcrumbs btw
...Deep cut.
who would be painted from my death? so far everyone seems to have remembered i exist and is following the lead that im scummy for some reason (chuggs excluded, he explained).
Somewhere around null and slight town leanso how do you read me rn?
Just read the summary. That is quite the pitch.You don't read?
(That's a classic... it means so much to me...)
It is a flashy entrance. I'll give you that.
Blarg. Any opinions so far about the game?
Mostly it would sorta give more light to both Sorian and Chuggs since they are the ones that have been most involved with you (mostly Chuggs).
why me in the scum lean? and if you think i'm scum would that change your read on Capt?
Does a scum!sorian go for pointing out the 'wait and see people' as scummy on a scum!ty discussion this early? Nah probably not.
Does a scum!sorian do this to a town!ty? :thinking:
Possible, especially knowing that Ty isn't scum gives him the cushion to fall back on if the Ty thing stumbles out of control and he dies. Sorian can be a "I told you so" and lock in on those few people he pointed out. Those few people likely having 1 scum in it 'to be safe' and hedge his bets he can keep that buddy alive.
I also personally dislike not caring for Ty's alignment in this whole thing as it does change things. Scum have and can be confident and bold in the early game, but typically not to a fellow scummate.
Tl:Dr sorian and ty likely aren't wolves together. I don't like throwing away Ty's alignment in the equation since the 'tell' he is looking for is kind of a toss up.
Dunno if I'd vote him today but I'd keep an eye on him once people start flipping (aka ty, chuggs, and maybe wiz/febe)
I'm not really a fan of how it was framed. It's all built around you being scum which is a weird at D1.
I tried to ISOing melon because I saw she was the second person with most posts after Chuggs, what I saw was a lot of fluff and some good follow up questions, seems slightly town to me, I guess what I would like is for people to look at other players that are at the sides and try to get a read of them
I agree. I had a similar feeling from Melon when reading their post this morning and got some town vibes.
Reading the posts that happened while I was sleeping I got the feeling that your posts had townie vibes. I liked them.
Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)
Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)
Just read the summary. That is quite the pitch.
How terrible....Whatever.
(It is weird to me I was asked twice to ensure I answered.)
"Some" being just me.
Yes. I did specifically ask you because that was all your were contributing.
And I started looking for patterns/reputation in posts once I noticed it from Chuggs and HP using the same template answer during the "slip."
How terrible.
Twice.
Mostly it would sorta give more light to both Sorian and Chuggs since they are the ones that have been most involved with you (mostly Chuggs).
chuggs beat me to it so, same pls.Can you give me some reads
how come?Somewhere around null and slight town lean
gotcha, thank you.I think that most of your posts seem superficial and safe. You said that you are not invested in the game and I was getting the same feeling.
I also didn't liked this post:
I already said why here:
It's just feels weird to me. Why did you never bring up the possibility of Sorian being town? All the analysis is done based on Sorian being scum, which we don't know. It feels that it had an agenda behind and not organic to me.
But I don't understand what you mean with Capt. Why would my read on Capt be related with my read on you? Why I can't read both of you as scum?
The absence of anything even slightly off while posting a fair bit.how come?
you cant talk about kindle and not the gamelot's of mechanics but no reads. do you think melon is scum trying to get info out of you or just town? what about other mechanic talkers (fran, i think turm said something about sephiroth but that may have been a joke)
I ask about Cap because I've been (so far) the only one highlighting him as being off and im curious why you see that as scum shading another scummate.
you cant talk about kindle and not the game
Vote: CaptainNuevo
I don't like chuggs yesterday or today
But I do like chuggs slightly (smidge territory) more than HP.
Idk if I feel like chuggs v sorian or chuggs v sneeks is more fake.
I feel like flipping sneeks gives very little rn now since she is giving us very little rn
and HP is my Aerith stan bro-in-arms
making Chuggs the common denominator among them.
VOTE: Chuggs
Bang. Or whatever.
I must.Why.
This does not sound like me. I never get to be scum.My read on melon specifically: right now I don't feel like it's likely scum behavior. It's a little too overt. And thinking back on times I've played with scum!melon, I remember their behavior being a bit more reliant on chatting things over with the scum team. Is it possible they're more confident and less team-centered this phase/game? Sure. But I call it out because I found it interesting
I must.
I don't believe there has been enough game for any of these reads/leans. Also no opinions or feelings on ppls reaction (or lack of) to your own flub is strange to me.I should also make a list, ISO-ed most of the playerlist earlier.
did you answer the 'who would you shoot if you had a gun' question?...They're the same.
(Blarg said it was a breadcrumb. I think being excited at one of my bits potentially being game relevant, and then explaining WHAT IT IS, is actually part of the game.)
(Oh I missed an actual question for me. Why doesn't this site give me a color to highlight a quote on something I said?)
(My read on melon specifically: right now I don't feel like it's likely scum behavior. It's a little too overt. And thinking back on times I've played with scum!melon, I remember their behavior being a bit more reliant on chatting things over with the scum team. Is it possible they're more confident and less team-centered this phase/game? Sure. But I call it out because I found it interesting.)
Seifer?
(RE: Turm[?] mentioning Sephiroth that felt purely flavor text oriented at the time. I could go re-read it, but I think that re-reading it with that in mind is going to color my viewpoint enough that it would be inaccurate.)
(Other mechanics posters... I still think trying to drive consensus about how to read group vote behavior early on is a bit suss. I know the xp system is the big unique thing and it's interesting to think about how it might be used. But trying to be like "Look guys, we should all agree that someone voting to try to get XP is bad" pre-emptively feels like trying to setup a defense for not being on a vote in advance.)
I'll prove it.
(Some posts of that: 1. 2. 3. 4.)
(I'm not saying that in and of itself is enough to make me flag you as scum. But I am wary of it because it indicates a level of thought about how to balance getting XP without being flagged as bad).
like actually its the most interesting option this side of sneeks.No like actually because i think your town but that vote is not good
hey i said it first >:(I don't believe there has been enough game for any of these reads/leans. Also no opinions or feelings on ppls reaction (or lack of) to your own flub is strange to me.
t-thank you?like actually its the most interesting option this side of sneeks.
Np!t-thank you?
like actually its the most interesting option this side of sneeks.
did you answer the 'who would you shoot if you had a gun' question
I didn't like your vibes.I'm not actually why it's interesting I'm asking why you think I'm scum
And I'm annoyed everyone thinks I'm town.Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
I emphasize friend that my opinion is not a judgment on you as player or person but rather judging the company ur keeping in game.Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
I didn't like your vibes.
They were off yesterday with HP.
Again with Sorian (whose is coming across most grumpy old townie)
And I think the back and forth today with sneeks is sus.
And tbh flipping you gives the most info out of you, hp and sneeks.
But if you wanna go sneeks we can :)
Here where?Like seriously how do I get you to find me here
Ur association with the dastardly sneeks and the shadowdy hp has taken a hit to your reputation.
Ur association with the dastardly sneeks and the shadowdy hp has taken a hit to your reputation.
I don't believe that sneeks has had much to say about hp at all. And she and chuggs spent the day playing at scum reading each other. Chuggs being so quick to call hp being town over hp's reaction/calling ty felt weird. And I didn't not like their mirroring answers as already discussed (felt like a prepared response).Strength and solitude are side by side.
(Why do you feel a scum team would be so buddy buddy so early on in the first game back? )
Idk why he has you as a hypeman to declare him town when he has done very little for that and I didn't like how closely your posts mirrored each other when addressing the slip.Me scum reading Neeks has made me scum in your mind? What about HP do you find scummy?
Acknowledged. That logic holds.I don't believe that sneeks has had much to say about hp at all. And she and chuggs spent the day playing at scum reading each other. Chuggs being so quick to call hp being town over hp's reaction/calling ty felt weird. And I didn't not like their mirroring answers as already discussed (felt like a prepared response).
Idk why he has you as a hypeman to declare him town when he has done very little for that and I didn't like how closely your posts mirrored each other when addressing the slip.
Gotta hang my hat somewhere (still looking for yours, Wiz) and it's like day 1 and barely anyone is here rn. So gonna be a lot of vibes.
If it makes you feel any better, I've been thinking about the game all afternoon and I just caught up on the posts. I was kind of expecting more content in general but I don't want to flip you yet. I'm not convinced you are town still but honestly, I don't think its a good day 1 vote at this point. You are talking so much that you'll get caught out anyway and you haven't done anything overly scummy that I just have to see this flip today.Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
Idk I'm not on the scum team. And I don't think in a game that promises "never before seen mechanics" one can assume anything.What actual purpose does that serve us? Have you ever been on a scum team who did this?
- I actually don't know how to read Saw right now. I don't really like that people pushed her into being more active and what she used her time on was overanalyzing the Ty stuff. It's a bigger post but it's surface level stuff and it doesn't really tell me much about her reads at all so it just comes off as busy work to appease the crowd. I would vote here too but I like Muffin for right now.
Ouch.melon feels aimless enough that I don't think they are on a team.
So what if we voted for sneeks.Also yeah I actually had the same thought reading that Neeks post. Like it's a big post, but just looking at it, it's the kind of thing that would be very easy to make from a scum PoV. Really doesn't do much for me.
I ... I don't like this.Acknowledged. That logic holds.
So what if we voted for sneeks.
It'll improve your rep.
If it makes you feel any better, I've been thinking about the game all afternoon and I just caught up on the posts. I was kind of expecting more content in general but I don't want to flip you yet. I'm not convinced you are town still but honestly, I don't think its a good day 1 vote at this point. You are talking so much that you'll get caught out anyway and you haven't done anything overly scummy that I just have to see this flip today.
I was thinking of voting Coppa but on catch up, I think I'm just more annoyed by the RPing more than anything else and I mildly feel bad knocking his engagement with me because of time zones.
Zipped and Muffin are kind of what I'm left with right now. Zipped is a bit of a trap though because he isn't going to post much, he's great for my "if I had a gun choice" but using our whole day 1 on him feels pointless and I've definitely been down that mislynch before with him.
VOTE: Muffin
I think something is off here, the posts all feel like he is doing the bare minimum to stay engaged and his actual stances are extremely fuzzy to me. I also don't see anyone else pressing him in any meaningful way.
Fwiw, nothing huge really caught my attention on catch up to quote but
- I'm happy Blarg is here, leave him alone until day 3 and we can do the usual easy read of him.
- Wizard's posts are still strong, even if I think his posts about me are a little try hard, I see actual solving and his questions are genuine, like he actually cares about the answers
- Fran and melon both feel very town to me. TLDR is Fran clearly is evolving his reads throughout the game and melon feels aimless enough that I don't think they are on a team.
- I actually don't know how to read Saw right now. I don't really like that people pushed her into being more active and what she used her time on was overanalyzing the Ty stuff. It's a bigger post but it's surface level stuff and it doesn't really tell me much about her reads at all so it just comes off as busy work to appease the crowd. I would vote here too but I like Muffin for right now.
'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'Also yeah I actually had the same thought reading that Neeks post. Like it's a big post, but just looking at it, it's the kind of thing that would be very easy to make from a scum PoV. Really doesn't do much for me.
The timing.'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.![]()
brb gonna go cryThe timing.
Find your inner Rinoa and then maybe he'll notice.anyway captain ignored me again so im keeping the vote there
You think he'll actually sheep ?brb gonna go cry
i want to be from a good game, thankyouverymuchFind your inner Rinoa and then maybe he'll notice.
chuggs? he's be on the sidelines giving me glares for a while so, yeah.You think he'll actually sheep ?
'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.![]()
( also words hp needs to hear ... )It's not so much the over analyzing or not posting enough it's the content just isn't really there for me. I think looking at things through the framing of Ty having the slip is very easy for scum to do. I want to know where you're at beyond that.
Careful I might have to swing back to you if yall just gonna repeat the cut scene from earlier today and play at scum reading each other.Talk to me about the game, Neeks
It's not so much the over analyzing or not posting enough it's the content just isn't really there for me. I think looking at things through the framing of Ty having the slip is very easy for scum to do. I want to know where you're at beyond that.
Vote: Sawneeks
nailed itchuggs? he's be on the sidelines giving me glares for a while so, yeah.
bro what part? i did a bit and you said it wasnt good.Talk to me about the game, Neeks
i think you may be misremembering me. i dont scumread chuggs - i just dont townread him either. he's kinda null.Careful I might have to swing back to you if yall just gonna repeat the cut scene from earlier today and play at scum reading each other.
Sorian - Got the feeling early on he was trying to fan the flames. Didn't like they way he described stuff like calling Chuggs behavior Phoenix Wright villain. Gives the feeling he wants to paint an impression into our mind so we don't trust Chuggs.
Why did you wanna vote for ur null read ?i think you may be misremembering me. i dont scumread chuggs - i just dont townread him either. he's kinda null.
I don't mind overanalyzing so don't make it a woe is me. My issue is what you chose to overanalyze. If what you have in the oven is actually going to come to fruition then that's at least something but now it's a little tainted because we had to push you for it.'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.![]()
Your suspicion will only make me strongerVOTE: Muffin
I think something is off here, the posts all feel like he is doing the bare minimum to stay engaged and his actual stances are extremely fuzzy to me. I also don't see anyone else pressing him in any meaningful way.
The read that floats to the top of my mind in recent hours funnily enough is that you are strangely defensive in general for a D1.i'm actually perfectly find with some Muffin pressure. Feel like I'm struggling to get a grasp on that slot also.
@Muffin buddy where are your reads at
for the 3-way mini tie?Why did you wanna vote for ur null read ?
I jokingly said this to chuggs but being honest here, I don't know what it is you want. It's Day 1 and it's not like I have a flip or anything to look at here to make reads and guesses. I kinda have to overanalyze and hope it's right in order to get some kind of basis going to read others. I also have my own alignment to make reads and I'm planning to look at who shaded me earlier too since I know I can work off of that but that's really it.I don't mind overanalyzing so don't make it a woe is me. My issue is what you chose to overanalyze. If what you have in the oven is actually going to come to fruition then that's at least something but now it's a little tainted because we had to push you for it.
Careful I might have to swing back to you if yall just gonna repeat the cut scene from earlier today and play at scum reading each other.
Also to melon: No offense on my comment and also I like the Saw vote but I'm not going to follow you yet. Chuggs giving some performative heat to Muffin and then immediately chasing off Saw instead still leaves me in the same place that no one is meaningfully pushing Muffin and I want to read his slot.
The read that floats to the top of my mind in recent hours funnily enough is that you are strangely defensive in general for a D1.
Pretty sure melon is saying you two are making theater of it and are scum buddies or whatever, if I read that right.Engaging with a scum read is good actually? Melon what are you doing
hey hey im doing the 'frustrated and not sure what you want' thing right now. wait your turnBro I have one vote and two different people are saying I'm giving performative heat to another player what do you want me to do here lmfao
Being me.Engaging with a scum read is good actually? Melon what are you doing
I dunno yet mostlyOkay. What about the other 19 players
I jokingly said this to chuggs but being honest here, I don't know what it is you want. It's Day 1 and it's not like I have a flip or anything to look at here to make reads and guesses. I kinda have to overanalyze and hope it's right in order to get some kind of basis going to read others. I also have my own alignment to make reads and I'm planning to look at who shaded me earlier too since I know I can work off of that but that's really it.
Being me.
I find your efforts to engage so far lacking and on the performative side.
Be more sincere with your read(s).
Pretty sure melon is saying you two are making theater of it and are scum buddies or whatever, if I read that right.