RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

CaptainNuevo

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...Deep cut.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Yeah valid, but I still don't get why I'm not seeing that here
i mean, i did give you a read earlier where i said you 'feel townie-y' but dont trust that since you have recent MU experience.

but if i had a bulletproof vest i wouldnt give it to anyone rn. like MAYBE febe and that was just an early gut read.

With 24 into the game I think this is where I am:

Town
[They] melonrabbit|melon - UTC-8
[He/They] Fireblend|Febe - UTC-6
[Any] Sorian - UTC-6

Town lean
[He/They] Chuggernaut|Chuggs - UTC+6
[He/Him] Alexem - UTC+0
[He/Him] HPSauce - UTC+0
[He/Him] Ty4on|Ty - UTC+1

Null
[He/Him] Natiko - UTC-5
[He/Him] Muffin - UTC+1
[He/Him] Geno - UTC
[He/Him] TheWorthyEdge - UTC-7
[He/Him] Neon|NeonBorealis - UTC-6
[He/Him] malus - UTC+1
[He/Him] The Wizard - UTC-5
[He/Him] turmoil7|turm - UTC-3
[He/Him] nin1000|nin - UTC+1


Scum lean
[He/Him] CaptainNuevo|Captain - UTC+9
[She/Her] Sawneeks|Sneeks - UTC-8
[He/Him] Zippedpinhead|Zipped - UTC-6

MIA
[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8

Of course this are really early reads so they are really weak but I just wanted to put them out there. Also Fanto isn't here and someone needs to do a list. I would be happy to discuss any name if someone wants to (I'm just bored).
why me in the scum lean? and if you think i'm scum would that change your read on Capt?
It's D1, I think it usually manifests later in the game in my experience.

For some reason I get slight scum vibes off of Geno, but I dunno why.
so how do you read me rn?
...

(Where am I? Am I awake? Why does my head hurt?)
(How long have I been asleep?)

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Since it looks like night time talk is going to happen at... inconvenient times for me to catch up, I wanna let one thing be known now, roughly 23 hours in advance:
I'm unlikely to be able to move my vote around at day's end with full information. I'll keep my vote where I think it's best tonight, and catch up when I can in the morning, but it's gonna be rough due to the deluge of info.

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...Whatever.
(Some people positing that scum sharing exp could make sense to balance things for them. I disagree with this notion. Assuming scum has a similar role PM to the information I have, I have to assume scum has 3 abilities each, with successively increasing xp costs. Pooling experience for them feels like it would be imbalanced. Maybe this is important? Maybe it's not. At THIS PHASE probably not.)

...I can't really be bothered.
(Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)

Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)
lot's of mechanics but no reads. do you think melon is scum trying to get info out of you or just town? what about other mechanic talkers (fran, i think turm said something about sephiroth but that may have been a joke)
For lack of better targets, I guess I would shoot Alexem, Chuggs Sorian or Sneeks. Mostly to see how it paints other people stances over them.



My logic at the time for saying that Ty could be neutral or lovers is that the conversation at the moment was about that Ty's slip could be indication that he is Scum and I wanted to provide another possibility. Now that I'm more wary of Ty as I'm not sure that I buy it being a mistake completely.

As for the neutral thing. I think that day 1 should be used to explore possibilities rather than immediately going for a vote.

On another note. I can't remember, but has Blarg always been like that?
who would be painted from my death? so far everyone seems to have remembered i exist and is following the lead that im scummy for some reason (chuggs excluded, he explained).
 
who would be painted from my death? so far everyone seems to have remembered i exist and is following the lead that im scummy for some reason (chuggs excluded, he explained).

Mostly it would sorta give more light to both Sorian and Chuggs since they are the ones that have been most involved with you (mostly Chuggs).
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
It is a flashy entrance. I'll give you that.

Blarg. Any opinions so far about the game?

I hadn't drawn anything in yrs until now when I needed a new avvy for the game I need to get as much mileage as I can outta my fan art innit

iirc [Mafia] is a game of chance but I'm a natural winner; watch how all these people play themselves, learn from their mistakes like I always do and always do your best that's how you succeed when you decide to play a game like this
 

Franconp

Frank
why me in the scum lean? and if you think i'm scum would that change your read on Capt?

I think that most of your posts seem superficial and safe. You said that you are not invested in the game and I was getting the same feeling.

I also didn't liked this post:

Does a scum!sorian go for pointing out the 'wait and see people' as scummy on a scum!ty discussion this early? Nah probably not.

Does a scum!sorian do this to a town!ty? :thinking:
Possible, especially knowing that Ty isn't scum gives him the cushion to fall back on if the Ty thing stumbles out of control and he dies. Sorian can be a "I told you so" and lock in on those few people he pointed out. Those few people likely having 1 scum in it 'to be safe' and hedge his bets he can keep that buddy alive.
I also personally dislike not caring for Ty's alignment in this whole thing as it does change things. Scum have and can be confident and bold in the early game, but typically not to a fellow scummate.

Tl:Dr sorian and ty likely aren't wolves together. I don't like throwing away Ty's alignment in the equation since the 'tell' he is looking for is kind of a toss up.
Dunno if I'd vote him today but I'd keep an eye on him once people start flipping (aka ty, chuggs, and maybe wiz/febe)

I already said why here:

I'm not really a fan of how it was framed. It's all built around you being scum which is a weird at D1.

It's just feels weird to me. Why did you never bring up the possibility of Sorian being town? All the analysis is done based on Sorian being scum, which we don't know. It feels that it had an agenda behind and not organic to me.

But I don't understand what you mean with Capt. Why would my read on Capt be related with my read on you? Why I can't read both of you as scum?
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I tried to ISOing melon because I saw she was the second person with most posts after Chuggs, what I saw was a lot of fluff and some good follow up questions, seems slightly town to me, I guess what I would like is for people to look at other players that are at the sides and try to get a read of them

I agree. I had a similar feeling from Melon when reading their post this morning and got some town vibes.

Reading the posts that happened while I was sleeping I got the feeling that your posts had townie vibes. I liked them.

Town reading melon goes against the lore.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Some players yesterday were asking me questions about my "Squall-isms", in a way that felt somewhat role fishing. THAT SAID, neither of them arise as logical questions from the publicly available information we have (the sample PM). That PM has only xp abilities, and someone asked me if I had to type "...whatever" once per page for my role. Based on the publicly available information, and the information I have about my role, I don't see reason to believe that roles exist outside of the powers we have. Feels like a fishing question, and it's something that raised an eyebrow for me.)

Hardly feels worth it.
(Furthermore, the sample PM also does nothing to indicate anything about role names here. I was asked if my role was specifically Squall. That's a jump to make based on the lack of information about role names present publicly. Also rubs me a bit the wrong way.)

"Some" being just me.

Yes. I did specifically ask you because that was all your were contributing.

And I started looking for patterns/reputation in posts once I noticed it from Chuggs and HP using the same template answer during the "slip."
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
Just read the summary. That is quite the pitch.

...Thanks.

(Someone likes it? Maybe I should keep it up...)

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Ok before this goes too far, that's a book I got ChatGPT to write 2 years ago I put up on Kindle for laughs. It got some users (who are not in this game :( ) very mad at me. I'm unclear what that means re: the breadcrumbing (or if that even is). Would have to think more if I feel it's alignment indicative or not, especially since I don't think I ever read it myself.

It is a certified 5* book tho.

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CaptainNuevo

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"Some" being just me.

Yes. I did specifically ask you because that was all your were contributing.

And I started looking for patterns/reputation in posts once I noticed it from Chuggs and HP using the same template answer during the "slip."

...Oh, you're right.

(I looked back, I thought Chuggs had asked about if I was required to. But it was you. That's sloppy. Sloppiness could get me killed on the battlefield...)
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Mostly it would sorta give more light to both Sorian and Chuggs since they are the ones that have been most involved with you (mostly Chuggs).
Can you give me some reads
chuggs beat me to it so, same pls.
Somewhere around null and slight town lean
how come?
I think that most of your posts seem superficial and safe. You said that you are not invested in the game and I was getting the same feeling.

I also didn't liked this post:



I already said why here:



It's just feels weird to me. Why did you never bring up the possibility of Sorian being town? All the analysis is done based on Sorian being scum, which we don't know. It feels that it had an agenda behind and not organic to me.

But I don't understand what you mean with Capt. Why would my read on Capt be related with my read on you? Why I can't read both of you as scum?
gotcha, thank you.

i didnt posit sorian as Town there because him being Town in that scenario doesn't do anything to change my read of Ty. Basically, if Ty flips Town then Sorian could be Scum or Town. If Ty flips Scum then Sorian isn't scum. Reversing that and Sorian flipping first as either alignment leads to the same conclusions. It was also based around what Ty is because he is the main question. His alignment kinda helps shed light on others.

I ask about Cap because I've been (so far) the only one highlighting him as being off and im curious why you see that as scum shading another scummate.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
lot's of mechanics but no reads. do you think melon is scum trying to get info out of you or just town? what about other mechanic talkers (fran, i think turm said something about sephiroth but that may have been a joke)
you cant talk about kindle and not the game

Vote: CaptainNuevo
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I don't like chuggs yesterday or today
But I do like chuggs slightly (smidge territory) more than HP.
Idk if I feel like chuggs v sorian or chuggs v sneeks is more fake.
I feel like flipping sneeks gives very little rn now since she is giving us very little rn
and HP is my Aerith stan bro-in-arms
making Chuggs the common denominator among them.

VOTE: Chuggs

Bang. Or whatever.
 

Franconp

Frank
I ask about Cap because I've been (so far) the only one highlighting him as being off and im curious why you see that as scum shading another scummate.

Honestly I didn't went so deep in looking for scum pairings. I don't think it's good D1 and with no flip. I'm feeling scum in Capt because he is just coasting. There is only fluff there. I don't think that I need to look at possible pairings at this point really. I just sharing how I feel and if one of my scum leans flips scum I will have something to work with and reevaluate my other reads.
 

CaptainNuevo

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you cant talk about kindle and not the game

Vote: CaptainNuevo

...They're the same.

(Blarg said it was a breadcrumb. I think being excited at one of my bits potentially being game relevant, and then explaining WHAT IT IS, is actually part of the game.)
(Oh I missed an actual question for me. Why doesn't this site give me a color to highlight a quote on something I said?)
(My read on melon specifically: right now I don't feel like it's likely scum behavior. It's a little too overt. And thinking back on times I've played with scum!melon, I remember their behavior being a bit more reliant on chatting things over with the scum team. Is it possible they're more confident and less team-centered this phase/game? Sure. But I call it out because I found it interesting.)


Seifer?
(RE: Turm[?] mentioning Sephiroth that felt purely flavor text oriented at the time. I could go re-read it, but I think that re-reading it with that in mind is going to color my viewpoint enough that it would be inaccurate.)
(Other mechanics posters... I still think trying to drive consensus about how to read group vote behavior early on is a bit suss. I know the xp system is the big unique thing and it's interesting to think about how it might be used. But trying to be like "Look guys, we should all agree that someone voting to try to get XP is bad" pre-emptively feels like trying to setup a defense for not being on a vote in advance.)

I'll prove it.
(Some posts of that: 1. 2. 3. 4.)
(I'm not saying that in and of itself is enough to make me flag you as scum. But I am wary of it because it indicates a level of thought about how to balance getting XP without being flagged as bad).
 

CaptainNuevo

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Also come on guys. This isn't being NICE to me. We all agreed that we would all be NICE to me specifically, Kindness begets kindness.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I'm going with the dark souls method of communication for this one, short, preferably cryptic insights in short posts, in honor of that genre of RPG.
Until I get bored of it two days in
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I don't like chuggs yesterday or today
But I do like chuggs slightly (smidge territory) more than HP.
Idk if I feel like chuggs v sorian or chuggs v sneeks is more fake.
I feel like flipping sneeks gives very little rn now since she is giving us very little rn
and HP is my Aerith stan bro-in-arms
making Chuggs the common denominator among them.

VOTE: Chuggs

Bang. Or whatever.

Why.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
My read on melon specifically: right now I don't feel like it's likely scum behavior. It's a little too overt. And thinking back on times I've played with scum!melon, I remember their behavior being a bit more reliant on chatting things over with the scum team. Is it possible they're more confident and less team-centered this phase/game? Sure. But I call it out because I found it interesting
This does not sound like me. I never get to be scum.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Ty’s ‘slip’
#141/142 is where it happens.

Leading up to that is Fran asking for mechanics talk and some of the first ‘serious’ gameplay posts of the game from Chuggs, Ty, and Sorian. Right before this Ty also says he’s going to bed but comes back with 3 extra posts before leaving, one of them being this ‘slip’.

It seems to come from responding to Fran’s ask for mechanics talk with him saying, “I'd love to if I wasn't half asleep, but do we really know anything other than skills need XP?
Not gonna stop you discussing that if it helps you figure stuff out, just don't accidentally out something you shouldn't.”

And then a post right after saying “oh right you can share xp”.
The obvious thought process i imagine being: why should we talk mechanics when it does nothing- oh wait i guess we could discuss potentially piling up XP on a person.

Now the question is: is that a slip or is it an honest thought?
The speed of it and the posts being after he says he’s going to log off tells me he’s excited to talk and wants to keep playing. He’s working it out as he posts and not mulling it over to edit. I think he honestly connected the idea together on the fly given what Fran asked. Not really alignment indicative on its own, but it can be given the rules.

UNFORTUNATELY the only way to really get deep into this is having to discuss the rule clarification Hedin made which could skirt some meta rules. Hedin I apologize if this goes a bit too far.
Basically you’d have to consider whether or not Scum brought up the idea of trading skill points in scum chat enough to where it got ruled on. OR somehow Scum never discussed it and only Town/Neutral(s) kept asking Hedin to a point where he made a post to mention it.

Unless Town is full of team pairings or a Neutral has a cult/team, I highly doubt Scum NEVER brought up the idea of pooling points. It makes sense to do from a strategy perspective as the more XP a skill is, the better it seems to be (at least based on what i have - and i imagine scum is the same).

SO in a world where Ty is Scum, Scum brings up the idea of pooling points and Hedin shoots it down, does a Scum!Ty say the above in a stream-of-consciousness-style posting burst?
I….don’t think so? I could see Ty as an individual missing it, but not the whole team behind him after discussing it as a possibility/strategy.
There is the option of a scum!ty on a team that never thought of/discussed pooling points, but i find that unlikely. Or i’d need to see scum flips before i can say a team with X or Y wouldn’t do that. But i genuinely think it’s more likely that scum did discuss the possibility of giving XP to one another.

Now, let me read his responses when he returns.

#298. Says he misread the part of the role PM where it says you can “exchange experience points” to unlock abilities, thinking it meant you could exchange points with others. Not where I figured his thought process was but I can see it.

#300 and #303 is weird to me.
“Sharing in mafia is the best. Makes reads much more impactful.

From my PoV we have very little xp and I have yet to read of ways to gain xp (I see people talking about hammers, haven’t read how that works yet) so in order for anyone to gain a meaningful amount that seemed to make sense.

Speculation: Sharing among mafia kinda makes sense, but also feels a bit cheap. Anni typically has similar mechanics (gain stuff from events), but scum has to work for it the same way as town and are restricted from working together on events. They already have a huge mechanical advantage from sharing a chat and everything they know.”

“Expanding on my progression it was something I just read very quickly while sleepy.
I had no impression you could share xp when making the first post. Then I skimmed the OP and made the second.”

His Alexem response could easily be TMI. Why would he need to skim the OP for information he ultimately got from the sample town role PM? If you’re Town, wouldn’t you just look at your own PM for mechanics insights? The timing also comes into play here because it was not a lot of time between the two posts - meaning when he went to the OP and the sample PM, he knew exactly where to go and look for something.

Taken with #300 it tells me that Ty wants to get XP but isn’t sure how to. NAI on its own (im sure we all want to use our toys) but I do find the way he got to his conclusion to be strange. If you’re Town and someone asks about mechanics discussion and you bring up the XP needed to use abilities, it makes sense to me to wonder how to use that and conclude that sharing is an option in order to bolster each other. Instead of doing that, Ty instead went to the OP and checked the sample role PM, sleepy misread the ability to learn powers, and assumed that trading was an option without saying whether he was for it or not.

There’s a difference there of coming to that conclusion through wanting to help vs coming to it wanting to talk. And I think Ty did the latter.

Tl;dr I don’t think Ty is Scum. Unless the Scum Team didn’t discuss how to get XP/the idea of pooling it, they would know about all of these rules he just claims he isn’t aware of. I do think it’s possible he is Neutral and only really wants it for himself, he was just excited to play and fumbled a bit. However, he could also be a Townie in that same scenario and it’s frustrating to mull over.

I do find it interesting he kinda took a backset once things kicked up around him and he only tentatively poked at it. I expected more of him prodding/questing into that mess if he was Town since he would know people throwing shade at him could be in bad faith. His more recent reads list is also a nothingburger i’ve done many times as scum/neutral by saying people who ‘poke and prod’ are Townie. I also heavily disagree with his scum leans so that doesnt help imo.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Finishing up work and then i'm going home and having dinner. I'll try and look over some reactions to Ty before bed tonight + respond to folks.

Just as a heads up tho the Day ends when I'm at work so it's 50/50 if I'm here or not. If you want specific reads/thoughts do so now or else i may not get to it.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I should also make a list, ISO-ed most of the playerlist earlier.
I don't believe there has been enough game for any of these reads/leans. Also no opinions or feelings on ppls reaction (or lack of) to your own flub is strange to me.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
...They're the same.

(Blarg said it was a breadcrumb. I think being excited at one of my bits potentially being game relevant, and then explaining WHAT IT IS, is actually part of the game.)
(Oh I missed an actual question for me. Why doesn't this site give me a color to highlight a quote on something I said?)
(My read on melon specifically: right now I don't feel like it's likely scum behavior. It's a little too overt. And thinking back on times I've played with scum!melon, I remember their behavior being a bit more reliant on chatting things over with the scum team. Is it possible they're more confident and less team-centered this phase/game? Sure. But I call it out because I found it interesting.)


Seifer?
(RE: Turm[?] mentioning Sephiroth that felt purely flavor text oriented at the time. I could go re-read it, but I think that re-reading it with that in mind is going to color my viewpoint enough that it would be inaccurate.)
(Other mechanics posters... I still think trying to drive consensus about how to read group vote behavior early on is a bit suss. I know the xp system is the big unique thing and it's interesting to think about how it might be used. But trying to be like "Look guys, we should all agree that someone voting to try to get XP is bad" pre-emptively feels like trying to setup a defense for not being on a vote in advance.)

I'll prove it.
(Some posts of that: 1. 2. 3. 4.)
(I'm not saying that in and of itself is enough to make me flag you as scum. But I am wary of it because it indicates a level of thought about how to balance getting XP without being flagged as bad).
did you answer the 'who would you shoot if you had a gun' question?

I'm noticing you get close to have a read on people but then talk yourself out of it at the last minute. It feels like you have no reads, honestly. Or like you're scared to give a read that has bit of spine to it.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I feel like I got unlucky on my roll for this game but it happens sometimes.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
I'm not actually why it's interesting I'm asking why you think I'm scum
I didn't like your vibes.
They were off yesterday with HP.
Again with Sorian (whose is coming across most grumpy old townie)
And I think the back and forth today with sneeks is sus.
And tbh flipping you gives the most info out of you, hp and sneeks.

But if you wanna go sneeks we can :)
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
If I were to shoot anyone D1 it's Fran or Alexem but only because I have never once been able to feel like I properly read them. Sorry guys.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
I emphasize friend that my opinion is not a judgment on you as player or person but rather judging the company ur keeping in game.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I didn't like your vibes.
They were off yesterday with HP.
Again with Sorian (whose is coming across most grumpy old townie)
And I think the back and forth today with sneeks is sus.
And tbh flipping you gives the most info out of you, hp and sneeks.

But if you wanna go sneeks we can :)

What about that is scummy to you. Which parts.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Strength and solitude are side by side.
(Why do you feel a scum team would be so buddy buddy so early on in the first game back? )
I don't believe that sneeks has had much to say about hp at all. And she and chuggs spent the day playing at scum reading each other. Chuggs being so quick to call hp being town over hp's reaction/calling ty felt weird. And I didn't not like their mirroring answers as already discussed (felt like a prepared response).
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Me scum reading Neeks has made me scum in your mind? What about HP do you find scummy?
Idk why he has you as a hypeman to declare him town when he has done very little for that and I didn't like how closely your posts mirrored each other when addressing the slip.

Gotta hang my hat somewhere (still looking for yours, Wiz) and it's like day 1 and barely anyone is here rn. So gonna be a lot of vibes.
 

CaptainNuevo

MDTLA Enthusiast
Staff member
I don't believe that sneeks has had much to say about hp at all. And she and chuggs spent the day playing at scum reading each other. Chuggs being so quick to call hp being town over hp's reaction/calling ty felt weird. And I didn't not like their mirroring answers as already discussed (felt like a prepared response).
Acknowledged. That logic holds.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Idk why he has you as a hypeman to declare him town when he has done very little for that and I didn't like how closely your posts mirrored each other when addressing the slip.

Gotta hang my hat somewhere (still looking for yours, Wiz) and it's like day 1 and barely anyone is here rn. So gonna be a lot of vibes.

That's just townreading someone? I think him pointing that out is pretty town. It reads as someone who legit thinks he found something to me and yeah that reads as pretty town. Why on earth do me and and scum HP coordinate posts like that? What actual purpose does that serve us? Have you ever been on a scum team who did this?

Sorry for going so hard on this. If Turms was around I would be grilling him too, but I feel like you're working backwards from a conclusion here
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
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Like I'm legit getting annoyed here because I'm doing my best to solve and engage with people and it's just "think chuggs is scum" because that's a meme i guess
If it makes you feel any better, I've been thinking about the game all afternoon and I just caught up on the posts. I was kind of expecting more content in general but I don't want to flip you yet. I'm not convinced you are town still but honestly, I don't think its a good day 1 vote at this point. You are talking so much that you'll get caught out anyway and you haven't done anything overly scummy that I just have to see this flip today.

I was thinking of voting Coppa but on catch up, I think I'm just more annoyed by the RPing more than anything else and I mildly feel bad knocking his engagement with me because of time zones.

Zipped and Muffin are kind of what I'm left with right now. Zipped is a bit of a trap though because he isn't going to post much, he's great for my "if I had a gun choice" but using our whole day 1 on him feels pointless and I've definitely been down that mislynch before with him.

VOTE: Muffin

I think something is off here, the posts all feel like he is doing the bare minimum to stay engaged and his actual stances are extremely fuzzy to me. I also don't see anyone else pressing him in any meaningful way.

Fwiw, nothing huge really caught my attention on catch up to quote but

- I'm happy Blarg is here, leave him alone until day 3 and we can do the usual easy read of him.

- Wizard's posts are still strong, even if I think his posts about me are a little try hard, I see actual solving and his questions are genuine, like he actually cares about the answers

- Fran and melon both feel very town to me. TLDR is Fran clearly is evolving his reads throughout the game and melon feels aimless enough that I don't think they are on a team.

- I actually don't know how to read Saw right now. I don't really like that people pushed her into being more active and what she used her time on was overanalyzing the Ty stuff. It's a bigger post but it's surface level stuff and it doesn't really tell me much about her reads at all so it just comes off as busy work to appease the crowd. I would vote here too but I like Muffin for right now.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Ty4on (3 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448

turmoil7 (3 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36
Fireblend - #384
malus - #416

Chuggernaut (2 votes)
turmoil7 - #169
Sorian - #377 #660
melonrabbit - #626

Muffin (1 votes)
Sorian - #660

Alexem (1 votes)
Ty4on - #548

CaptainNuevo (1 votes)
Sawneeks - #624

Sorian (1 votes)
The Wizard - #475

Neon (1 votes)
Chuggernaut - #240

Blargonaut (1 votes)
Blargonaut - #587

Fireblend (0 votes)
Natiko - #378 #453

Not voting: Neon, Muffin, Franconp, Zippedpinhead, nin1000, Natiko, TheWorthyEdge

Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 107 Sorian: 70 melonrabbit: 57 Franconp: 54 HPSauce: 49 Ty4on: 48 nin1000: 36 Sawneeks: 33 CaptainNuevo: 32 turmoil7: 29 Fireblend: 29 The Wizard: 28 Blargonaut: 26 Alexem: 23 Geno: 20 Neon: 19 Muffin: 18 TheWorthyEdge: 13 Natiko: 12 malus: 8 Zippedpinhead: 5

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Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
i'm actually perfectly find with some Muffin pressure. Feel like I'm struggling to get a grasp on that slot also.

@Muffin buddy where are your reads at
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
- I actually don't know how to read Saw right now. I don't really like that people pushed her into being more active and what she used her time on was overanalyzing the Ty stuff. It's a bigger post but it's surface level stuff and it doesn't really tell me much about her reads at all so it just comes off as busy work to appease the crowd. I would vote here too but I like Muffin for right now.

Also yeah I actually had the same thought reading that Neeks post. Like it's a big post, but just looking at it, it's the kind of thing that would be very easy to make from a scum PoV. Really doesn't do much for me.
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Also yeah I actually had the same thought reading that Neeks post. Like it's a big post, but just looking at it, it's the kind of thing that would be very easy to make from a scum PoV. Really doesn't do much for me.
So what if we voted for sneeks.

It'll improve your rep.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
If it makes you feel any better, I've been thinking about the game all afternoon and I just caught up on the posts. I was kind of expecting more content in general but I don't want to flip you yet. I'm not convinced you are town still but honestly, I don't think its a good day 1 vote at this point. You are talking so much that you'll get caught out anyway and you haven't done anything overly scummy that I just have to see this flip today.

I was thinking of voting Coppa but on catch up, I think I'm just more annoyed by the RPing more than anything else and I mildly feel bad knocking his engagement with me because of time zones.

Zipped and Muffin are kind of what I'm left with right now. Zipped is a bit of a trap though because he isn't going to post much, he's great for my "if I had a gun choice" but using our whole day 1 on him feels pointless and I've definitely been down that mislynch before with him.

VOTE: Muffin

I think something is off here, the posts all feel like he is doing the bare minimum to stay engaged and his actual stances are extremely fuzzy to me. I also don't see anyone else pressing him in any meaningful way.

Fwiw, nothing huge really caught my attention on catch up to quote but

- I'm happy Blarg is here, leave him alone until day 3 and we can do the usual easy read of him.

- Wizard's posts are still strong, even if I think his posts about me are a little try hard, I see actual solving and his questions are genuine, like he actually cares about the answers

- Fran and melon both feel very town to me. TLDR is Fran clearly is evolving his reads throughout the game and melon feels aimless enough that I don't think they are on a team.

- I actually don't know how to read Saw right now. I don't really like that people pushed her into being more active and what she used her time on was overanalyzing the Ty stuff. It's a bigger post but it's surface level stuff and it doesn't really tell me much about her reads at all so it just comes off as busy work to appease the crowd. I would vote here too but I like Muffin for right now.
Also yeah I actually had the same thought reading that Neeks post. Like it's a big post, but just looking at it, it's the kind of thing that would be very easy to make from a scum PoV. Really doesn't do much for me.
'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.
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Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.
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It's not so much the over analyzing or not posting enough it's the content just isn't really there for me. I think looking at things through the framing of Ty having the slip is very easy for scum to do. I want to know where you're at beyond that.

Vote: Sawneeks
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
It's not so much the over analyzing or not posting enough it's the content just isn't really there for me. I think looking at things through the framing of Ty having the slip is very easy for scum to do. I want to know where you're at beyond that.
( also words hp needs to hear ... )
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
It's not so much the over analyzing or not posting enough it's the content just isn't really there for me. I think looking at things through the framing of Ty having the slip is very easy for scum to do. I want to know where you're at beyond that.

Vote: Sawneeks
chuggs? he's be on the sidelines giving me glares for a while so, yeah.
nailed it
Talk to me about the game, Neeks
bro what part? i did a bit and you said it wasnt good.

im currently reading over what people said after Ty's comment but it's still in the oven.
Careful I might have to swing back to you if yall just gonna repeat the cut scene from earlier today and play at scum reading each other.
i think you may be misremembering me. i dont scumread chuggs - i just dont townread him either. he's kinda null.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Sorian - Got the feeling early on he was trying to fan the flames. Didn't like they way he described stuff like calling Chuggs behavior Phoenix Wright villain. Gives the feeling he wants to paint an impression into our mind so we don't trust Chuggs.

So hold on, I went and took a shower and was re-thinking about the posts I read and realized that this one is weird. I very specifically said his behavior was NOT like a phoenix wright villain. Yes, I did purposely drill down into Chuggs to see what would shake loose but why are you misrepresenting what I said about his reaction? At best, this is another case of sloppy reading and at worst, you are trying to paint a world about me.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
'sneeks you arent posting enough.' 'sneeks you have no reads' 'sneeks you have no substance'
i finally start locking in and now im overanalyzing.
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I don't mind overanalyzing so don't make it a woe is me. My issue is what you chose to overanalyze. If what you have in the oven is actually going to come to fruition then that's at least something but now it's a little tainted because we had to push you for it.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Also to melon: No offense on my comment and also I like the Saw vote but I'm not going to follow you yet. Chuggs giving some performative heat to Muffin and then immediately chasing off Saw instead still leaves me in the same place that no one is meaningfully pushing Muffin and I want to read his slot.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
VOTE: Muffin

I think something is off here, the posts all feel like he is doing the bare minimum to stay engaged and his actual stances are extremely fuzzy to me. I also don't see anyone else pressing him in any meaningful way.
Your suspicion will only make me stronger

i'm actually perfectly find with some Muffin pressure. Feel like I'm struggling to get a grasp on that slot also.

@Muffin buddy where are your reads at
The read that floats to the top of my mind in recent hours funnily enough is that you are strangely defensive in general for a D1.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Why did you wanna vote for ur null read ?
for the 3-way mini tie?

it would be funny. also chuggs scares me. i also didnt have terribly strong feelings on anyone and figured it might've shaken something out.
I don't mind overanalyzing so don't make it a woe is me. My issue is what you chose to overanalyze. If what you have in the oven is actually going to come to fruition then that's at least something but now it's a little tainted because we had to push you for it.
I jokingly said this to chuggs but being honest here, I don't know what it is you want. It's Day 1 and it's not like I have a flip or anything to look at here to make reads and guesses. I kinda have to overanalyze and hope it's right in order to get some kind of basis going to read others. I also have my own alignment to make reads and I'm planning to look at who shaded me earlier too since I know I can work off of that but that's really it.
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Also still don't getting good vibes off of Geno, probably a good combination of the voting behaviour here and some of his reactions. I wanna vote there.

VOTE: Geno
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Also to melon: No offense on my comment and also I like the Saw vote but I'm not going to follow you yet. Chuggs giving some performative heat to Muffin and then immediately chasing off Saw instead still leaves me in the same place that no one is meaningfully pushing Muffin and I want to read his slot.

Bro I have one vote and two different people are saying I'm giving performative heat to another player what do you want me to do here lmfao
 

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Engaging with a scum read is good actually? Melon what are you doing
Pretty sure melon is saying you two are making theater of it and are scum buddies or whatever, if I read that right.

Which I don't see atm, but not an unreasonable thing to take away for others maybe.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I jokingly said this to chuggs but being honest here, I don't know what it is you want. It's Day 1 and it's not like I have a flip or anything to look at here to make reads and guesses. I kinda have to overanalyze and hope it's right in order to get some kind of basis going to read others. I also have my own alignment to make reads and I'm planning to look at who shaded me earlier too since I know I can work off of that but that's really it.

See this makes me think you're scum struggling to force reads. There's a lot that's happened in this game outside the Ty stuff and people have formed reads based on that. I'm not sure why you're having so hard of a time here.

Give me your thought on Fran, Muffin, Melon, Turms, HP, and Nat and lets go from there
 

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Pretty sure melon is saying you two are making theater of it and are scum buddies or whatever, if I read that right.

Exactly.

Not seeing this as a real push by chuggs to pressure sneeks although I gave him the benefit of the doubt earlier to improve his rep and do something.
 
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