RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Did we ever ask why these two were chosen for the thunderdome? Did anyone claim it as their ability? I may have missed this so thank you for understanding
 
Sorian

Sorian

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If I had known today was going to be a thunder dome I would have went 24/24 but I assumed this would be a day with three choices at least arguing and I didn’t want to miss day end.

As it stands now, my reads are all out there already and there’s not a ton new that I’ve found re-reading the thread. The choice is really just do we want to tie or not. We don’t really want to discuss Zipped’s PR anymore, he needs to decide what to do on his own.
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
==== DAY 7 VOTES ====
Day Start

nin1000 (1 votes)
Sorian - #3,948 #4,191
Zippedpinhead - #4,152
nin1000 - #4,184 #4,196

Sorian (1 votes)
turmoil7 - #3,902

No vote (0 votes)
Sorian - #3,924 #3,948

Not voting: Muffin, Sorian, Chuggernaut, melonrabbit, nin1000

Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 83 melonrabbit: 81 Muffin: 78 Sorian: 70 nin1000: 41 Zippedpinhead: 39 turmoil7: 14

Current Countdown:
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Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Like he's not so much as solving as he is throwing shade, he seems very unconcerned about the way the day is going even though in his shoes he should really want to flip Sorian here because that's apparently part of his solve, we don't know his night actions so he's not helping us solve him.

Like this is not town who's worried about being a miskill that costs us the game.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Socially, I'm ready to go the way you are but my big problem is still the whole Zipped potentially being saved thing. That's still my biggest hang up because I really feel like Wiz was trying to do damage control with the weird vest thing.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Sorian said:
Socially, I'm ready to go the way you are but my big problem is still the whole Zipped potentially being saved thing. That's still my biggest hang up because I really feel like Wiz was trying to do damage control with the weird vest thing.
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Yeah it’s still the best thing he has going for him. I just think everyone else has more going for them that it just kind of tips the scales for me
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Sorian said:
Socially, I'm ready to go the way you are but my big problem is still the whole Zipped potentially being saved thing. That's still my biggest hang up because I really feel like Wiz was trying to do damage control with the weird vest thing.
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Chuggernaut said:
Yeah it’s still the best thing he has going for him. I just think everyone else has more going for them that it just kind of tips the scales for me
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At this point it’s the only reason why I have been town reading Turm.
 
nin1000

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Yeah, let’s leave it at a tie. In hindsight this play was a mess and the best play is indeed tying it for today and going for the obvious choices on the following day phase.
Sorry sorian, this nin move was not it.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I'm also around, about to start on dinner so only half paying attention but just in case anything new comes up.
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Nin and Sorian kept up their staring contest throughout the day, somehow neither one blinked in the process. And then all at once they both blinked at the same time resulting in a draw in the contest. They wanted to go at it again but the rest of the party ended up dragging them apart and everyone prepared to travel through the night to get to the other side of the lake.

No one died

Night ends in:

4i5ebzy8go


Actions lock two hours before the end of the day.

No players gain any additional xp.
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
Scheduling note

Because of the holiday coming up, Day 8 will be a 24 hour day as if it was a full 48 it would end on Christmas Eve and I certainly won't be available at that point and I assume you all have better things to do as well. Should the game continue after that phase then we'll take a long night and the next day will resume on the 26th.
 
Hedin

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
The party journeyed overnight around the lake. Luckily the moon was out so visibility was decent and they were able to make good time. However shortly before dawn clouds rolled in making the surroundings nearly pitch black. When that happened the party heard sounds of a scuffle couldn't perceive what was exactly going on. A few long minutes later the clouds moved out of the way and in the moonlight the party discovered the body of nin.

nin1000 has died!

Welcome to RPG Mafia!

You are the Mayor and you are aligned with The Heroes of Aeredale (that is TOWN).

You have the following abilities:

Tier 1 (2 exp): Ride The Popularity Wave

This ability will allow you to become Loved the following day phase, requiring one extra vote than majority to vote you out. This modifier will not work in a misvote and lose or vote and lose situation.

Tier 2 (4 exp): Abuse the Power of Your Office

This ability will give you access to a Double Vote the following day phase. This ability cannot be used in a misvote and lose or vote and lose situation.

Tier 3 (6 exp): Demand a Runoff

This ability will force a Thunderdome the following day phase. Players will only be able to vote for you or your target that day.

During the night phase if you want to exchange experience points for one of your available abilities you may submit the command via PM Learn: Tier X to learn how to use your chosen ability.

- You can only learn and use each ability once in the game
- You do not have to learn the abilities in order, you can go in any order that you would like.
- You can learn and use an ability that same night, but it is not mandatory to do so.
- You can only learn and use one ability per night phase.
- Commands for how to use each ability will be provided after they are learned.

You also have the ability to vote each day.

You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

The game thread can be found here:

Good luck and have fun!
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As they were examining nin they caught sight of a shadow moving at a high speed away from them. The party quickly gave chase and as the sun started rising they found themselves in front of Mt. Genebackis.

The party has discovered a new location, all players gain 1 xp.

There was no where else for the shadowy figure to go but up the mountain so the party began their climb.

Day 8 begins

Day ends in:

vsjd2aeram


All players gain an additional 1 xp.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Damn, they really just kept nin alive until he used that tier 3 huh. I assume scum thought it was an override too lol

No, I didn't do the thing. If there is two scum, it's not exactly pointless but I'd rather there was only one left. I've been going back and forth on it but if there is two scum, I think it's impossible to miss today with the info we have. And if there is only one then I have time anyway.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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Also I'm about to leave work so I'm out for like an hour, I'll be back.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Especially with Turm noping out yesterday once hitting 10+ posts. We even waffled on voting out and tieing after Turm’s last post.

so he may have thought to have it in the bag either way.

And this is my only real “kink” in my thought process. Turm noping out as a scum looking at all good results works best if he had a partner who WAS reviewing the game throughout the whole phase. Not impossible to do as the only scum player but definitely riskier
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Muffin said:
Why? Balancing wise it makes sense.
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Only from a raw numbers perspective. IMO Town has gotten incredibly lucky in some of their power uses (alignment check hitting scum, vigilante shot hitting scum, and no nights with multiple dead).

Nin’s tier 3 could have definitely backfired catastrophically as well, plus the tank role could have also led to another inadvertent town death.

We only still have a game due to luck and deduction. Scum very easily could have won this already if things were different. Which makes me think this is balanced properly around role madness 4 overpowered scum (and the three flipped so far seem OP) + one neutral makes as much sense as 5 scum + neutral.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Well I think Sorian and Chuggs are scum and are on the verge of winning so congrats I guess

vote: chuggs
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Zippedpinhead said:
Especially with Turm noping out yesterday once hitting 10+ posts. We even waffled on voting out and tieing after Turm’s last post.

so he may have thought to have it in the bag either way.

And this is my only real “kink” in my thought process. Turm noping out as a scum looking at all good results works best if he had a partner who WAS reviewing the game throughout the whole phase. Not impossible to do as the only scum player but definitely riskier
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Yeah this is the thing that makes me unsure about one scum too. Like Turms looks really bad, but it's so bad I would expect him to try more if he was the last scum alive.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Also just so everyone is clear, a two person scum team can just win the game here if two town vote for non-scum so be careful with votes
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
turmoil7 said:
Well I think Sorian and Chuggs are scum and are on the verge of winning so congrats I guess

vote: chuggs
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It's not like I don't have a terrible feeling inside with Sorian being out here withholding (if he is town, justifiably) ability info this late after he just talked himself out of a thunderdome.

But no matter how many times I reread him his play doesn't look particularly scummy to me. So, my judgment call this time, no matter what anyone else will say later if I'm wrong, is that I don't see it enough.

What's your justification even for Chuggs and Sorian? You've barely even made any arguments the last couple days.
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Muffin said:
It's not like I don't have a terrible feeling inside with Sorian being out here withholding (if he is town, justifiably) ability info this late after he just talked himself out of a thunderdome.

But no matter how many times I reread him his play doesn't look particularly scummy to me. So, my judgment call this time, no matter what anyone else will say later if I'm wrong, is that I don't see it enough.

What's your justification even for Chuggs and Sorian? You've barely even made any arguments the last couple days.
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Well, Sorian voted out Ty(who wasn't on the PoE) when the PoE was looking bad for scum. Has a claim that conveniently allows his to keep alive until MYLO. In the thurderdome the towny play was reducing the pool of unknown players to have better odds at MYLO, him and Chuggs decide the townie play was no lunch, that just gives time for scum to kill townies. Dunno, to me all of this screams scum.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
turmoil7 said:
Well, Sorian voted out Ty(who wasn't on the PoE) when the PoE was looking bad for scum. Has a claim that conveniently allows his to keep alive until MYLO. In the thurderdome the towny play was reducing the pool of unknown players to have better odds at MYLO, him and Chuggs decide the townie play was no lunch, that just gives time for scum to kill townies. Dunno, to me all of this screams scum.
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Multiple town voted out Ty why are you just putting this on Sorian.

I said multiple times yesterday I wasn't sure if letting Sorian live was the play, but was willing to do it. No one really argued we should kill Sorian. Including you. So again, why didn't you push Sorian more yesterday
 
turmoil7

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Chuggernaut said:
Multiple town voted out Ty why are you just putting this on Sorian.

I said multiple times yesterday I wasn't sure if letting Sorian live was the play, but was willing to do it. No one really argued we should kill Sorian. Including you. So again, why didn't you push Sorian more yesterday
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Because it felt hopeless
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
turmoil7 said:
Well, Sorian voted out Ty(who wasn't on the PoE) when the PoE was looking bad for scum. Has a claim that conveniently allows his to keep alive until MYLO. In the thurderdome the towny play was reducing the pool of unknown players to have better odds at MYLO, him and Chuggs decide the townie play was no lunch, that just gives time for scum to kill townies. Dunno, to me all of this screams scum.
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None of this was just decided, we argued about it and you only say this now.

You realize it just looks like either a) as you say, you just thought it was hopeless or b) you didn't want to draw more attention to yourself by participating in that discussion at all, and are now coming back around to shade Sorian some more when you were hoping the rest of us would eliminate him without too much of your input.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I feel like I'm just talking to scum at the moment so whatever but here's my thing. It's insane to assume I'm scum at this point. nin literally gave me every clue in the world that he was going to override me. By some fucking miracle, his ability was instead a thunderdome and even then, that wasn't a whole lot better other than the fact that I had time to talk people down instead of just being killed via one command by nin. You know what I do if I'm scum? Kill nin and not deal with any of that shit. Trust me, killing nin wasn't some smoking gun there, I could have killed him and easily just convinced people that scum probably thought an active override on nin is dangerous because he is so chaotic.

As far as my ability, it's nice, I hope I get to use it but at this point I feel like scum is really just convinced that I'm always a mislynch option because "haha Sorian" but like I'm sorry, everything here just points to me being town.
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Sorian said:
Writing up my nighttime thoughts now but while that's being typed @Zippedpinhead so what, did you opt to protect yourself again?
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Nope, i flipped a coin on using the level 1 or not. Came up I should not use it and I let it ride into the next night.

however, if the game does not just end today with us miss voting, then I will absolutely use this heal on muffin or myself tonight. By far the most town read person still remaining or myself
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I'm still planning on two scum so we need to be right today but like I said, I feel like if there is two scum, it's impossible to miss with the info we have. If it's just one scum, I see two worlds here so it's less of a guarantee but also we have more time then anyway. I feel like the only way to look at this is to throw out every assumption I've had on people's roles and consider everything now with the hindsight we have of day 7 or whatever it is today.

melon - I'm going to start with melon because tbh, as unfair as it is, I just know they are town. The confusion on our roles doesn't happen from scum trying to fake claim. We didn't even have enough flips yet to see that there was a pattern to it when we had this whole fight but it's obvious this game was designed with multiple instances of the same ability but better and bonus points because it always occurs on the same tier for the two players when it happens. Too much of this came out in the wash before scum could have had this info for it to just be a crafty claim on their part. melon is just town, that's locked to me.

Chuggs - Slightly lower on my list is Chuggs and this one is also purely mechanical. I've been thinking about how his ability could be scum aligned and I don't think it can be in this game complexity. If we were closer to bastard, I could definitely see it but the fruit I got, Hedin told me it did nothing. The gamerunner can't lie like that to a player in this complexity (I also feel like I would have noticed an effect a day on if there was a secret effect as well). Whatever if you don't want to believe me and assume that Chuggs and I are teamed or something, but Natiko also confirmed that he received a fruit so Chuggs at least has role confirmation there. To me, this is very close to lock town to me. He used a power on me, technically it could be his tier 1 or tier 3, and it did absolutely nothing per the moderator. Now, I will say the reason why this is close to lock town and not just done and dusted is because the fruit vendor crap could be cover for a tracker but that fell apart a bit when I actually thought about it because it would actually be worse to have this benign fruit vendor thing plus whatever scum kill or scum power because then he'd just be seen going two places instead of only one. I don't see it here.

Zipped - Is a super interesting case, I have to take it in a vacuum. There is technically no proof of any of his actions. Let's assume the worst and say that he bussed out malus on a fake red check. The rest of what we know about him is two protects, which is already a pattern break because that makes him the only player with two of the same ability. All of the other JOATs have 3 different abilities and the "evolution" roles are obviously all three the same thing. The pattern break bothers me a lot but he's not the only player pattern breaking so it's not the end of the world for me. He's allegedly missed both protects now and I have to assume he's going to say again that he protected himself because I don't see why you don't protect Zipped or nin from Zipped's perspective. It was the only two options for the kill. I think the only way Zipped is scum here though is if he is still alive with a team of two. I don't think a scum Zipped plays like this as solo scum, the posts yesterday were too erratic if he actually wanted to make it to end game solo and if he's scum, we are talking about someone who rode a fake red check into a teammate on day 3 before they could have realistically used any of their high end abilities even if malus seemed to have the weakest stuff from what I can see. I don't think this one is it but I could easily be wrong, there is enough here that it's a concern but again, I only see him in a team which really sucks if Turm is scum and the game doesn't end because getting a read on the partner is going to be really hard.

Turm - The other person with a role that doesn't follow the patterns of the game. Turmoil's role almost reads like a neutral to me and I honestly would have believed it more if the role had been a universal back up and he started as a neutral and just joined the team of the first death. Functionally the same but feels cleaner. That's less important though, again, we have no direct confirmation of turmoil using abilities. Presumably (and if you said it somewhere, I didn't find it reading around), you've used that bodyguard shot and must have missed (or it's a lie of course) but that was the one way your power would have confirmed completely. My hang up is still the Wizard chainmail claim thing. It's still a very awkward read that everyone (myself included) just glanced right over but I don't see why that claim is there other than trying to be a counter claim to turmoil. Even weirder and maybe this belongs in the Zipped section, is why use melon as the person he pretended to send the vest to. Why not just use Zipped as well? It's like Wiz TMI'd but still realized he shouldn't confirm the kill? It's a weird read and I guess it distances turmoil and Wiz just by virtue of putting their claims to test against each other but not really. If turm is scum, there was a lot of serendipity involved to get him into the position he is in right now. It's possible and I can see the worlds where he is teamed or solo which I think is important. I don't like this vote either but it casts the widest net.

Muffin - I'm just going to bury the lede, I think Muffin is scum and if I'm being completely real, I think Muffin is solo scum left. I tried to be objective but I couldn't keep it, and I think the rest of this post reflects that my head has been here. First his role, he is definitely a double gossip at least, probably three because of role patterns like I keep saying. The only way this role is scum is if you tack something secret onto the gossip chat obviously. We've talked about this theory already, he puts you in a gossip chat and also role cops you. He put you in a gossip chat and also role blocks you, etc. etc. I took awhile reconciling this with Chuggs role and I feel like the key difference that makes one version of this bastard and the other not is that the player is still participating in a gossip chat. They were told a game mechanic by the mod and they were able to engage with that mechanic the way Hedin described. If Chuggs gives me a fruit that Hedin says does nothing and then it does do something, that creates a moderator lie. The gossip having a second hidden effect isn't the same lie. Muffin could be teammates with turmoil for sure. I saw no interaction that actually disqualifies that, and I only bring that up because I would still vote Muffin today, now, even if I don't think it's actually the optimal play to solve this via forced poe. But really, if muffin is teamed, it would kind of have to be with Chuggs. That could explain why we haven't seen gossip chat 3 yet but really, I think Chuggs is still town. I just feel like Muffin is the one playing the most like someone trying to position themselves well and nothing from their role actions actually stops them from being scum.

My bigger issue and this is about everyone, I don't see how I solve this from old fashioned interactions. The hardest stance any of you alive have taken is Zipped red checking malus. There is shockingly little between the alive players and the dead scum that links them or shows attempts at distancing or anything. The Alex day is interesting because everyone very naturally falls in line as the day goes on. No one was really inconsistent except Ty who was town anyway and that tells me the plan was always to bus Alex. If anything, melon comes out the cleanest from everyone but I already know they're town so that read didn't matter that much.

Posting and continuing the last little bit.
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I'm sorry, that took longer to write than I thought, I had a lot of those ideas formed but I didn't realize how much I would evolve some of my thoughts while actually trying to write it all down. Objectively, as much as I want to be right, the vote is just turmoil. If he's scum and you are all right then awesome, either we win or we go into an alleged situation where Zipped still has a heal and I can do my thing. If turmoil is town, then we only have one scum and the game isn't over and we are still in the position with me and Zipped. I say that because ignoring turmoil, the only two people I could see teamed here are Muffin and Chuggs and I am really really side eyeing the fact that gossip chat 3 didn't happen but I can't come up with any viable way that Chuggs ability is scum. I forgot to mention, even though Chuggs could have used T1 or T3 on me technically, I do believe it was T3 due to flavor because I don't know why else Hedin really reiterates to me multiple times that it was the most delicious banana I've ever seen. Like that is just screaming that it was a high tier ability and I don't see how scum as a T3 ability that did nothing.

So yeah, that's where I'm at, also lol @ Muffin being the most town read. Obviously, I think melon is the most obvious town here personally.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Do I finally have to do an all days breakdown of my xp or why does this keep getting brought up?
 
Sorian

Sorian

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I'll be honest I didn't calculate your exp so let me do that real quick but honing in on that point of all things doesn't actually matter. If anything that really only matters in the world where you and Chuggs are scum together and I don't believe that world is possible so your lack of chat at the moment isn't really the problem in there.
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
1 short to use a gossip in time for last night, ok fair. I think I had you on the malus vote in my notes and never really verified that. Again though, that's the least of my concerns, that only matters if you are lying about being a full gossip but I never really thought that part was the lie.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Honestly the bit about a scum team with Sorian just killing nin is actually a really solid point.

Also I don't think anyone is seriously considering this but me and Sorian are clearly not teamed if you go back to early game. Like dude just fucked up any thread pull I had for no reason real early and had me out here playing this game on hard mode for no reason if we're teamed
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I'm still not really interested in going Muffin today, but I can acknowledge if I'm wrong about someone, it's probably him. Still just think we don't have to worry about it though
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian said:
1 short to use a gossip in time for last night, ok fair. I think I had you on the malus vote in my notes and never really verified that. Again though, that's the least of my concerns, that only matters if you are lying about being a full gossip but I never really thought that part was the lie.
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Didn't seem like least of your concerns, clearly it was impacting your trustability of me based on the assumption I openly lied and didn't explain myself. But whatever.

What I'm more curious about: In this scenario where my chats do something else too as scum, what does T3 do? Like ballpark, how strong would it need to be to justify T3 besides chatting with two people?
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I also don't agree with that melon read at all, but that's just stating the obvious now, I made that clear yesterday.
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Muffin said:
Didn't seem like least of your concerns, clearly it was impacting your trustability of me based on the assumption I openly lied and didn't explain myself. But whatever.

What I'm more curious about: In this scenario where my chats do something else too as scum, what does T3 do? Like ballpark, how strong would it need to be to justify T3 besides chatting with two people?
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My trustability of you is fucked up because I think you were able to pocket Chuggs hard in your chat. Chuggs will hard go to bat for you in pretty much every situation I've seen and that feels like you put more effort into that gossip chat than I've seen in the public thread.

The T3 being the roleblock is probably the strongest one. A double roleblock definitely fits the bill for a T3 ability so that's been my guess.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian said:
My trustability of you is fucked up because I think you were able to pocket Chuggs hard in your chat. Chuggs will hard go to bat for you in pretty much every situation I've seen and that feels like you put more effort into that gossip chat than I've seen in the public thread.
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Why don't you just ask Chuggs then what it was like?
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian said:
Chuggs will hard go to bat for you in pretty much every situation I've seen
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I've had the same impression of Chuggs and you in these later days, to the point where I think you two being a scum team like Turm believes is too flagrant.
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Usually the pocket doesn't know they are a pocket. Chuggs, do you think you were pocketed?
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Sorian said:
Usually the pocket doesn't know they are a pocket. Chuggs, do you think you were pocketed?
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Not really, but he honestly he didn't try that hard is the thing. We got on the same page extreamly early, but he was landing on those conclusions around the same time I was to the point that it felt less like he was just agreeing with what I was saying and more like a mind meld. I told him I didn't think Ty was scum and that our only real disagreement, but even with that he did think I might have been right, and the way he went about that slot the next day just truly felt like someone who wasn't quite sure on it. But I'm not going to act like Muffin was in there putting in some crazy work. It wasn't exactly a long chat all things considered, but there was a enough where it didn't feel like scum to me imo
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
And again, just to restate, I could 100% be wrong here. If you end up in final 3 or 4 with Muffin, this is not me saying you should take my word for it. But right now in this situation, I don't think he's scum
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
@Sorian you make a really solid case on muffin, but more importantly you make a solid case for yourself there.

maybe I use my last heal on you or me instead of muffin or me (especially if what you say about muffin is true)

I still want Turm today. His claimed role as backup really sticks out in a game with all this healing, shot blocking, shot redirecting and lack of double night kills (one night and it was immediately claimed by the vigilante)
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Muffin said:
Do I finally have to do an all days breakdown of my xp or why does this keep getting brought up?
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How short are you from your Tier 3?

You seem to be a couple days behind everyone else for having access to it which is why it keeps standing out.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
Chuggernaut said:
Sorian mathed it out so it does track. He should have it tonight
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Hmm. Okay.

Day 1
1xp

Day 2
2xp

Day 3
1xp

Day 4
3xp

Day 5
1xp

Day 6
3xp

Day 7
1xp

12 xp - Tier 1 - Tier 2 = 6 xp at start of yesterday.

That's what I'm getting. But I have dyscalculia so that could be the issue and I'm getting turned around.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
melonrabbit said:
Hmm. Okay.

Day 1
1xp

Day 2
2xp

Day 3
1xp

Day 4
3xp

Day 5
1xp

Day 6
3xp

Day 7
1xp

12 xp - Tier 1 - Tier 2 = 6 xp at start of yesterday.

That's what I'm getting. But I have dyscalculia so that could be the issue and I'm getting turned around.
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i'll look it it myself in a couple of hours just to make sure
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
melonrabbit said:
Hmm. Okay.

Day 1
1xp

Day 2
2xp

Day 3
1xp

Day 4
3xp

Day 5
1xp

Day 6
3xp

Day 7
1xp

12 xp - Tier 1 - Tier 2 = 6 xp at start of yesterday.

That's what I'm getting. But I have dyscalculia so that could be the issue and I'm getting turned around.
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It’s a gossip ability, he needs to learn it the previous night and use it during the day for it to activate the following night. He would have needed the 6 exp before the start of yesterday.

I believe his T3 is a gossip ability too, that’s not the problem.
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
Sorian has got it right, I got to 6 exp yesterday, hence I can only spend those during last night, and now that I have it I send the command out today and the chat happens the future night
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
The reason it feels like I'm behind is because that's how chat creation works - you need two more phases in preparation, because you can not learn it and then use it like a roleblock. You learn it, need another phase to choose the target, and then need another phase to actually do the chat.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
turmoil7 said:
Because it felt hopeless
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I get feeling hopeless but you had the votes yesterday for Sorian with nin, Muffin and Chuggs considering it. To stay silent and not even say something like "today I would've voted for Sorian if we didn't move to a no vote decision because ... "

Feels strange to me.
 
melonrabbit

melonrabbit

The only good kind of melon
turmoil7 said:
Well, Sorian voted out Ty(who wasn't on the PoE) when the PoE was looking bad for scum. Has a claim that conveniently allows his to keep alive until MYLO. In the thurderdome the towny play was reducing the pool of unknown players to have better odds at MYLO, him and Chuggs decide the townie play was no lunch, that just gives time for scum to kill townies. Dunno, to me all of this screams scum.
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Then why are you voting Chuggs over Sorian?
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
melonrabbit said:
Why you gotta word it like that :(

Wish I was scum too.
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lol that one wasn’t a knock, I think it’s unfair because I have you solved based on the role misunderstanding and not really anything you did in the game
 
Zippedpinhead

Zippedpinhead

Zip it!
Muffin said:
The reason it feels like I'm behind is because that's how chat creation works - you need two more phases in preparation, because you can not learn it and then use it like a roleblock. You learn it, need another phase to choose the target, and then need another phase to actually do the chat.
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Wait what?
 
Sorian

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Zippedpinhead said:
@Muffin you mean to tell me that your role was unique in that you could not learn and use a tier at the same time?
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We did this days ago Zipped lol

My gossip worked the same way. Inviting to a chat is a day command, you can only learn things at night so no you can't use it at the same time.
 
Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I'm landing on Turmoil here and would like to just get that done now. He's still the only one that doesn't really feel like he's solving. The only thing really in the back of my mind here is the play is so off I almost come around to town reading it, but people have been throwing scum reads his way for a bit now and I don't really think he's done much to stop those. Don't really buy the way he's looking at the game coming from a town PoV either
 
Muffin

Muffin

Born with a heart full of neutrality
I only see Turm and melon make sense to me at all. I just hope it's solo Turm for some reason. So yeah, I'll vote there.
 
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