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Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
that's a fun role. I've unfortunately exhausted my Star Trek lore tho, so no more accurate flavor guesses.
I still hope the red check was faked by wee.
I still hope the red check was faked by wee.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
ATP didn't even give the incorrect red check from what Bojack is saying. If anything they were trying to help protect the cop from being identified.
ATP could easily have expected you to flip mafia and then mafia target them in the night and fail. So town should not really be mad at ATP if they think about it.
tbf, people are using their roles expecting them to help them win the game. what you're looking for is a simple setup with minimal PRs where the entire roster can't really claim
if there's enough interest for one, I can run those easily. I have a bunch of open 13 player setups for basic games.
Neki
Bought a book once
I mean I'm not against the idea of claiming but the amount of claims we have on D3 is crazy to me to say the least.
That's fair but getting blasted by a neutral who then leaves the game without any consequences certainly doesn't feel good to me at the very least.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
If wee is mafia is it a good trade for town? i mean everyone wanted to go after ATP at the start of the day. Are they going to give wee a pass?
Neki
Bought a book once
I mean I don't know if wee is mafia. If town actually has a parity/alignment cop then they should definitely speak up but I did say that it wasn't out of the question that my alignment was switched when I was investigated. So I'm not sure to believe wee but today has been a real mess regardless.
Sawneeks
little green dog
That Q role is fantastic and a fun wincon for a neutral. Having the option to mess with the role on or have nothing is a great way to read the game and decide which one will get you quoted more lol. Really really fun role, I love it.
The parity cop situation with wee doesn't make much sense given what fanto has said here about my death so maybe...she is lying? If neki was checked against me we should've showed the same so the fact we didn't means a switch somewhere. But since my death wasn't planned there's a switch there, too, and scum wouldn't have switched one of their own with me to accomplish that.
So either wee is a liar or there's a town switcher that just isn't speaking up. Or if I want to get crazy, scum targeted Jman with the kill and it bounced off of him on to me. Neki or I still got switched but it's a ??? as to which one.
The parity cop situation with wee doesn't make much sense given what fanto has said here about my death so maybe...she is lying? If neki was checked against me we should've showed the same so the fact we didn't means a switch somewhere. But since my death wasn't planned there's a switch there, too, and scum wouldn't have switched one of their own with me to accomplish that.
So either wee is a liar or there's a town switcher that just isn't speaking up. Or if I want to get crazy, scum targeted Jman with the kill and it bounced off of him on to me. Neki or I still got switched but it's a ??? as to which one.
I can't wait for it to be like D6 and Royal says something and people who totally forgot he existed being surprised.
Town Blarg is typically more engaged and does try to solve in his own way as the game goes along. So far this is feeling like scum Blarg to me.
Leo
Quack Pack King
Town Blarg does solving, and he's good at it. When he's still just memeing later into the game he's probably scum. He started to engage more today, but im leaning scum on him.
Blarg and wee definitely have some potential wolf parity right now. It'd not be unheard of for a neutral, town and a scum player to all be put in the same night chat.
The way she's asking for someone to clear her feels wolfish too.
The way she's asking for someone to clear her feels wolfish too.
Neki
Bought a book once
Only thing that doesn't add up to me is Wee claiming parity cop. Doesn't parity cop usually need 2 nights to get a result off since you check a person one night and then the other person the second night to receive a result?
How did wee manage to check me and sneeks with only one night passing?
How did wee manage to check me and sneeks with only one night passing?
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Honestly that was the kind of response I was hoping would happen with this role.
LOL this is why I was so confused when Bojack revealed he's been in a chat with ATP. I was like 1. ATP claimed?! and 2. Bojack assumed Q would be someone to trust?!
So him not knowing star trek makes complete sense.
Hey >:( I am also against claiming for stupid reasons. I only claim when i have to LOL
There's a variation of the role where it can check two people at night, but that's usually not used since it's pretty powerful.
Fanto could have nerfed it by making it X-shot tho.
Neki
Bought a book once
My big brain theory is wee and bojack agreed to help each ATP under the pretense they would do a gambit under the guise of a parity check with ATP taking the fall for it. Wee would check someone N1 and N2 but they would claim a red check on D2 to basically get a free shot at someone else they thought was scum. ATP would claim the check and if he was right, they'd basically bait the NK to him while he exited the game. I guess somehow wee figured out what Q's win condition once he left was since Wee was purposely quoting ATP posts that didn't really make any sense in context. What doesn't make any sense is why'd they reveal Wee's role early before the real parity check unless, and this is the kicker, Wee is actually Picard and Bojack is the parity cop so that they still get the result off tomorrow.
Or the parity check is the same night as Maol said
Or, Wee is scum. scum!wee helping Q doesn't really make any sense unless wee thought ATP would fully leave the game and not remain in the chat.
Maybe it's just the 3rd option.
Or the parity check is the same night as Maol said
Or, Wee is scum. scum!wee helping Q doesn't really make any sense unless wee thought ATP would fully leave the game and not remain in the chat.
Maybe it's just the 3rd option.
Sawneeks
little green dog
i was thinking the same thing today! if ATP already faked being the cop then nothing is stopping bojack and wee just doing it again.
but i could see a scum!wee helping a neutral Q leave the game. it takes a player out, gives her a good spotlight as being helpful, plus it easily cements her as someone who 'doesn't lie' by speaking openly about mechanics. it's a great trade if you're scum but it would still leave her open to 'why is the cop still alive' in the late game.
someday y'all gonna learn NOT TO DO THIS
but today is not that day
StOp MaKiNg ThEsE kInDs Of AsSuMpTiOnS aBoUt GaMe DeSiGn WhEn YoU oNlY hAvE pArT oF tHe PiCtUrE
literally nothing makes malus anything but someone who used a poker command
rando I <3 you but justintimberlakestare.gif
but today is not that day
StOp MaKiNg ThEsE kInDs Of AsSuMpTiOnS aBoUt GaMe DeSiGn WhEn YoU oNlY hAvE pArT oF tHe PiCtUrE
literally nothing makes malus anything but someone who used a poker command
rando I <3 you but justintimberlakestare.gif
A Wild Shark Appears
Our resident acupuncturist
A Wild Shark Appears
Our resident acupuncturist
Plz don't townread malus he hasn’t even posted a chart
Sawneeks
little green dog
RIP Blarg, gone before his time.
wonder how many scum are on that final switch. I could see 1 being there, maybe in LP for the late switch. A quikc glance at Anex's posts and he said nothing on blarg, the sudden vote swap - nothing. couple people here see scum and i could buy it.
although if HP is also scum then maybe malus for the panic bus that ended up badly.
wonder how many scum are on that final switch. I could see 1 being there, maybe in LP for the late switch. A quikc glance at Anex's posts and he said nothing on blarg, the sudden vote swap - nothing. couple people here see scum and i could buy it.
although if HP is also scum then maybe malus for the panic bus that ended up badly.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
sometimes quiet weekend phases are horrible for town. no organisation, little engagement, dead town.
town managed to scrape something together in the weekend lull so there should be less noise for them to sort through. A lot of people gave themselves massive amounts of town cred.
town managed to scrape something together in the weekend lull so there should be less noise for them to sort through. A lot of people gave themselves massive amounts of town cred.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Lol I’ve done that before where I town read someone for scum reading me especially if my game play has been bad.
i did that with Hedin in the thing
To be fair, I was still town when I was doing that.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah that helped lol
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah this is working out good for town. Hopefully town can keep the momentum going lol.
Sawneeks
little green dog
some people see it as the person being consistent throughout the game and that scum wouldn't have the forethought to convincingly breadcrumb Dr Crusher from the start. a really convincing breadcrumb can help push a read but it shouldn't be the basis for it. scum will also absolutely plan it at the start and lie and have done it to confuse town but hey, besides the point.
bread is just delicious
Neki
Bought a book once
I'm just gonna breadcrumb every possible role so that people won't doubt my role claim then!
Sawneeks
little green dog
or just make ambigious enough posts so they can be reinterpreted later if needed - or not. schrodinger's breadcrumb
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
LOL games like those exist. Aeleus and I both like to make games with no actual cops or really weird versions of cops.
Hedin was able to claim Cop in Nier mafia because town's only cops were the role fisher and the gossip hider that would die if their chat partner died or they stayed with 2 non town (which included the miller we tossed in to make peeps think there was a cop).
Caught up to like two phases, what a ride. ATP having fun as a ghost? anex still pinging me, Fate or HP I could eventually see.
Wondering about Ephi's role a bit. Bit hard to think of it as a fake, but wouldn't the questions she's asking kinda cross the line into Bastard territory? More than one team would, I believe, but recruitment most definitely imo, as it would indicate some Cult thingie - Neighborhood is not a faction to recruit into -. So why ask these questions at all? Unless the pool doesn't have much better stuff.
Wondering about Ephi's role a bit. Bit hard to think of it as a fake, but wouldn't the questions she's asking kinda cross the line into Bastard territory? More than one team would, I believe, but recruitment most definitely imo, as it would indicate some Cult thingie - Neighborhood is not a faction to recruit into -. So why ask these questions at all? Unless the pool doesn't have much better stuff.
Sawneeks
little green dog
If HP is Town here then this is just not the game for him. Folks have been on him the whole time and haven't really given him a chance to breathe.
It's possible? With this being a Role Madness game there are bound to be some town roles that don't make waves.
I had a busy weekend and skipped everything from when I last posted.
I assume nothing about the game state has meaningfully changed much.
I assume nothing about the game state has meaningfully changed much.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
LOL yeah. When Jman said his post asking to not be checked, I knew immediately he was the miller. But i only know that because I reviewed the game LOL.
Millers claim day one >:( Otherwise we get cases like the time the alignment cop and me both checked miller Kalor on the same night.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
yep lol
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Yeah Miller is pretty much a free claim.
Will any mafia ever have the guts to yolo a miller claim on day 1?
Only problem is if there is an actual miller you would be screwed. And millers here aren't common but they are just used just enough to make that risky.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Time to make a game with 2 millers
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
And no alignment checks
Fanto
Confirmed Town
And the Cop is an Insane Cop.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I actually considered claiming Miller in a bastard game next time I rolled scum only to be all “Oh wow this game must be really nuts huh” if I got counterclaimed
Yeah that feels a little bit of a pot stirring statement there.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
The trick is to help start the train a day early. Then you have time to go through the five stages of grief.Maybe I could've spoken up if you all hadn't started a train on me less than 20 minutes to day end.
I feel seen.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
All people are mafia, separated into three groups. Everyone else assumes the rest are town. Everyone flips town. Win condition is only two mafia groups are left and one has a majority.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I certainly didn’t anticipate that in my reveal. I can understand some people being skeptical, but hinging your logic entirely on that is short-sighted, and magically immune to criticism since you can claim you were trying to be objective.
I think it just depends if Fanto would allow the NK to be roleblocked or not. A doc (assuming LP is being truthful), a roleblocker than can block a faction kill, and at least one BP vest out there feels like a lot of protection for only single kill nights so far. Mechanics talk can mislead you for sure but I don't think it was totally unreasonable to look at that and think something is off with the equation.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I can sympathize with that, but some were predicating their vote entirely on that fact. I thought the choice between myself and HP to test my claim would have been a fair trade, but I misjudged for sure.