Ten Forward

[Reki]

Roleblockers usually affect NKs I believe, but town-aligned ones can mess up with multiple stuff; it's more likely that you're blocking town than evils just by numbers alone. That bit of negative utility helps balance imo.

The other protections are usually limited shots or paired with Strong kills, too. But the setup has some funny twists so far so who knows.

 

[Neki]

HP has been managed to not get voted off for 3 days not doing anything helpful for town lol

 

[Faddy]

Roleblockers usually affect NKs I believe, but town-aligned ones can mess up with multiple stuff; it's more likely that you're blocking town than evils just by numbers alone. That bit of negative utility helps balance imo.

The other protections are usually limited shots or paired with Strong kills, too. But the setup has some funny twists so far so who knows.

when i was reviewing this I was thinking a lot about Doggy Style mafia.

 

[anexanhume]

HP has been managed to not get voted off for 3 days not doing anything helpful for town lol

HP: I want out of the game.
Town: LOL NO

 

[Hedin]

Yeah it's probably about time for HP to exit. He can't keep coasting on the just end it talk.

 

[anexanhume]

Feel like zipped has some sort of inspect/scan ability. Everyone taking a dump on my strategy and zipped in the background saying “keep going, you’re doing great champ!”

 

[Faddy]

Yeah it's probably about time for HP to exit. He can't keep coasting on the just end it talk.

If my last two games as mafia have taught me anything it is that town will straight up ignore overt scumminess to try and dig something else up.

I think it was Nat who asked Anex somehting like "are you going to push your other reads". You only need 1 scum read a day.

 

[anexanhume]

Is it wrong that the thing I’m most excited for this game is the reaction to my flip tomorrow?

 

[Neki]

Is it wrong that the thing I’m most excited for this game is the reaction to my flip tomorrow?

That's how I felt until I got neutral'd LOL

 

[Leo]

Shit, a town RB? D:

Good game, anex, you were giving off town vibes. But a town RB is a hard claim to pull off, I'd personally just say fuck it and claim vanilla lol

 

[anexanhume]

Shit, a town RB? D:

Good game, anex, you were giving off town vibes. But a town RB is a hard claim to pull off, I'd personally just say fuck it and claim vanilla lol

Mea culpa. Your problem was that you were too damn town. LOL. I don’t think a vanilla would have flown in role madness.

 

[Fanto]

Is it wrong that the thing I’m most excited for this game is the reaction to my flip tomorrow?

Sneak peek at their reaction:

 

[anexanhume]

Sneak peek at their reaction:

I may have cackled a bit when Vere commented how easy the turbo went.

And don’t act blameless when you gave me this damn role :D

 

[heymonkey]

I actually considered claiming Miller in a bastard game next time I rolled scum only to be all “Oh wow this game must be really nuts huh” if I got counterclaimed

I approve of this post and this post only.

I personally am not big on the “design games to fuck with expectations” trend but at the same time, folks need to stop focusing so much on trying to mechanically solve!

 

[Sawneeks]

I approve of this post and this post only.

I personally am not big on the “design games to fuck with expectations” trend but at the same time, folks need to stop focusing so much on trying to mechanically solve!

we say that but there's a strong chance at finding scum just with mechanics right now. there's a missing NK and either anex stopped it by blocking HP, LP the Doctor stopped it, or there's another BP out there which seems doubtful. If LP keeps living through the nights and never flips it's a strong chance he isn't a Doctor and that means anex really did stop the kill, meaning HP is also scum. now if LP ends up dying and flipping doctor this is a moot point but there's still potential in mechanics solving right here.

 

[Sawneeks]

Its' stuff like saying "well, scum would NEVER have a double vote!" that's some mechanic solving nonsense. It's too early to say what scum could or could not have given that we don't know the whole set up.

 

[Hawthorn]

This is a pretty intense and fun game to read back over. I hope the players are enjoying themselves, even the despairing ones. Good job Anex-- your reasoning made sense considering The Thing was your only previous game with us-- it was a fun one, but maybe not the best of introductions to how games usually play out.

I'm gathering that Nat really is a miller, but wouldn't it be cool if he made that up when replacing in as mafia? Risk-free, since if there was a real miller they would have claimed already, but everyone would believe that Jman could've kept it secret.

Fate used to be so sweet. What happened to those cute emojis he used to post? Did mafia make him bitter??

Loved ATP's role so much. I hope he's still posting in Bojack's thread as we speak.

Really inclined to think that LP is scum, possibly wee as well based on Sawneeks' reasoning. Otherwise no idea.

 

[Fanto]

Loved ATP's role so much. I hope he's still posting in Bojack's thread as we speak.

 

[lokiduck]

HP has been managed to not get voted off for 3 days not doing anything helpful for town lol

Yeahhhh doesn’t help most peeps are town reading him lol

 

[lokiduck]

Oooh right we did include a lot of protection this game lol

:blobconcern: is this the counter to my games with infinite strongmen?

 

[Maolfunction]

I'm looking forward to town rushing to kill their doctor.

 

[Neki]

I'm looking forward to town rushing to kill their doctor.

You know a thing or too about that

 

[Maolfunction]

You know a thing or too about that

Can't believe town didn't go with my theory that Zeke sacked his partner.

 

[Neki]

I genuinely wish someone would ask why HP is getting town read without bringing up his role.

 

[Maolfunction]

Where's a vig when you need one.

 

[Faddy]

Anex: I'm roleblocker and blocked HP

Town: I don't believe Anex is a town roleblocker

Anex: Voted out and flips town roleblocker

Town: We still can't work out why there was no kill

 

[Sawneeks]

Oooh right we did include a lot of protection this game lol

:blobconcern: is this the counter to my games with infinite strongmen?

..................

so...LP isn't lying?

damn it :(

 

[anexanhume]

Where's a vig when you need one.

Probably would have already been used on me LOL.

 

[Neki]

Zipped and Fred and Vere doing some hard defending of HP this late into the game makes me think they're being obtuse or they're scum

 

[lokiduck]

..................

so...LP isn't lying?

damn it :(

Spoiler

besides there being a doc, there’s a back up doc that can’t heal androids because she doesn’t like them (aka Data couldn’t be healed by them).

And yes the second doc only activated when the first dies so there’s hope for town if they vote out lp lol

 

[Maolfunction]

Zipped and Fred and Vere doing some hard defending of HP this late into the game makes me think they're being obtuse or they're scum

Yeah, players who want to keep the big question mark player deep into games are often scum. HP is a great player to drag into MELO.

 

[Sawneeks]

yes, you are looking at HP
who hasnt done much this game, if they flip town we get nothing and when they tell me they are town this game, i believe them

 

[Neki]

Someone needs to tell Fate that the point of mafia is to vote out scum.

 

[Fanto]

There is a lot of protection in this game, but the thing is, Town has only seen one Scum flip, and have no idea how powerful they are to balance these sorts of things.

 

[lokiduck]

The amount of players who don’t know Star Trek annoys me

 

[lokiduck]

Like okay I watched all of Star Trek later in life because while I grew up with my trekker parents watching it, I didn’t pay attention.

but still >:( if I can suffer through enterprise and the bad seasons of next gen, so can most of these nerds

 

[Maolfunction]

This is why I sat the game out. Didn't want to be flamed by trekkies.

 

[Maolfunction]

Fate is being very obvious about being the Universal (Doctor) Backup and no one is catching on.

 

[anexanhume]

I think anex was a good pick for the vote yesterday. It's unfortunate he was town and perhaps everyone was biased against him, but the evidence there was pretty compelling.

 

[Neki]

Fate was basically hard tunneling and spewing for the first 3 days but ever since I died he's really gone back to passive posting so I don't know if he was being a genuine town tunnel or a Faddy scum tunnel at this point.

I'd like to think the scum team is HP, Royal and Vere/Nat at this point but the way Zipped and Fate are acting makes me feel weird.

 

[anexanhume]

He said almost exact same thing yesterday. After my flip, looks damn suspicious.

 

[lokiduck]

This is why I sat the game out. Didn't want to be flamed by trekkies.

It’s trekker >:(

 

[Maolfunction]

It’s trekker >:(

"No. It's Trekkies. I should know. I invented it." - Gene Roddenberry

oh, look at the time, I've got to dip from this conversation now, very important work things happening here, mhm

 

[Chuggernaut]

Jesus Christ, what the fuck is Town doing? This is a mess, lol

Post from scum chat lol

 

[Neki]

I don't think scum has to do anything for the past 3 days because Town has been doing all the heavy lifting themselves lol

 

[lokiduck]

"No. It's Trekkies. I should know. I invented it." - Gene Roddenberry

oh, look at the time, I've got to dip from this conversation now, very important work things happening here, mhm

>:( my mom was apart of the group that originally signed the petitions to keep original series Star Trek on the air when it was taken off.

she has been apart of the fandom since it’s beginning so they have a right to go with the better Star Trekkers than whatever stupid name the creator of the show comes up with lol especially when the original fandom protested the name finding it stupid.

 

[Maolfunction]

Post from scum chat lol

that's Royal, bet on it

 

[Sawneeks]

Fate is being very obvious about being the Universal (Doctor) Backup and no one is catching on.

to be fair everyone seemed to forget HP was blocked on a deathless night so

 

[Neki]

Can I say again how much I hate low activity scum, it better not be Royal.

 

[Maolfunction]

Can I say again how much I hate low activity scum, it better not be Royal.

Royal is the only player I've noticed who capitalizes Town lol.

 

[lokiduck]

Man town really loves tunneling on town don’t they.

 

[Sawneeks]

Man town really loves tunneling on town don’t they.

 

[Sawneeks]

So what are we thinking? It's Royal, probably HP, and who else?

 

[Maolfunction]

I'm still not convinced HP is scum. Is malus still in the game?

 

[weemadarthur]

Oh, it’s not here.

Ephi IS scum.

She should not have killed me, i’m the one stopping everyone else from voting her out!

 

[lokiduck]

My scum team

Spoiler: Spoilering because I’m basing this off what I remember from gsme review and I may be wrong lol

HP, Malus, Vere/Royal

last slot not sure on there

 

[lokiduck]

Oh, it’s not here.

Ephi IS scum.

She should not have killed me, i’m the one stopping everyone else from voting her out!

Spoiler

she is not scum lol

 

[lokiduck]

I'm still not convinced HP is scum. Is malus still in the game?

:blobyes:

 

[Sawneeks]

I'm still not convinced HP is scum. Is malus still in the game?

yeah and he's apparently BP? Not sure where that came from

Oh, it’s not here.

Ephi IS scum.

She should not have killed me, i’m the one stopping everyone else from voting her out!

how do you know she is scum o:

 

[Fanto]

Royal is the only player I've noticed who capitalizes Town lol.

I always capitalize Town and Scum.

 

[Maolfunction]

yeah and he's apparently BP? Not sure where that came from

he should probably be scrutinized after LP flips doc, lol. wonder if scum got a BP, that begs the question of where the vig is

 

[Maolfunction]

I always capitalize Town and Scum.

*ahem* Royal is the only player who could be posting in the scum chat who capitalizes Town

 

[weemadarthur]

That's how I felt until I got neutral'd LOL

You didn’t get neutraled, you got SWITCHED. Or saw did. I have no idea What’s going on.

Spoiler

besides there being a doc, there’s a back up doc that can’t heal androids because she doesn’t like them (aka Data couldn’t be healed by them).

And yes the second doc only activated when the first dies so there’s hope for town if they vote out lp lol

So is zipped a bodyguard? Nurse? Scum?

I am glad to be out. My brain is mush with my real life work.

Maolfunction, i make a much better scum when i’m town than when i actually roll scum. I’m afraid my mafia game so far consists of running away from the main thread. but i appreciate that you WISH it was all a plan. I do too.

 

[lokiduck]

You didn’t get neutraled, you got SWITCHED. Or saw did. I have no idea What’s going on.

So is zipped a bodyguard? Nurse? Scum?

I am glad to be out. My brain is mush with my real life work.

Maolfunction, i make a much better scum when i’m town than when i actually roll scum. I’m afraid my mafia game so far consists of running away from the main thread. but i appreciate that you WISH it was all a plan. I do too.

Spoiler

the BG is real

 

[Maolfunction]

Maolfunction, i make a much better scum when i’m town than when i actually roll scum. I’m afraid my mafia game so far consists of running away from the main thread. but i appreciate that you WISH it was all a plan. I do too.

I was really hoping Fanto would give scum a way to fake claim cop. oh well

 

[weemadarthur]

yeah and he's apparently BP? Not sure where that came from

how do you know she is scum o:

Oh, uh.
Her [guinan?] useless-oracle [sorry fanto i know why you don’t like my words lol] results include a code of Y/N[qty], and I see now i’m here, that she isn’t asking spec.

I thought her role was real mostly because of that code, because it’s a lot of weird extra effort to put into a fake claim and started on d2 when the first results could be posited to arrive.

 

[lokiduck]

Lol Shirou still tunneling on Ephi and zipped thanks Bojack is scum with a always open neighbor chat

 

[weemadarthur]

So anyway, bojack did great with his role and you should ALL read that chat when you can.

 

[lokiduck]

Oh, uh.
Her [guinan?] useless-oracle [sorry fanto i know why you don’t like my words lol] results include a code of Y/N[qty], and I see now i’m here, that she isn’t asking spec.

I thought her role was real mostly because of that code, because it’s a lot of weird extra effort to put into a fake claim and started on d2 when the first results could be posited to arrive.

I would point out that the role that asks spec is a medium usually

 

[weemadarthur]

Also loki should read it and like all my posts :(

why is this game full of ignoramuses who don’t GET the jokes. :(

 

[Maolfunction]

lol, Royal's posts on #2190 and #2195 are both very wolfy and no one is calling them out.

 

[weemadarthur]

I would point out that the role that asks spec is a medium usually

I don’t pretend to know the right terms, or the order of operations.

i’ve been that medium. Still don’t know lol.

 

[Hedin]

The amount of players who don’t know Star Trek annoys me

Guilty. Would have still signed up if I knew the timing. Mechanics > flavor checking in!

So what are we thinking? It's Royal, probably HP, and who else?

Those are my top 2 right now.

 

[weemadarthur]

yeah and he's apparently BP? Not sure where that came from

Bulletproof came from his pair of fives

 

[Neki]

If I'm scum I'm avoiding the main thread too, that's the best strat.

 

[weemadarthur]

If i had won poker, would i have won a motivation shot?

 

[weemadarthur]

Like 4 ppl noticed that I was using GIFs for the first time. Nobody seemed to notice my post making fun of that fact.

 

[Sawneeks]

lol, Royal's posts on #2190 and #2195 are both very wolfy and no one is calling them out.

2190 for sure but i dont see what's sinful about 2195? focusing on D1 so late?

 

[weemadarthur]

I failed to go back last night and post “if i die random isn’t scum” in the ready room because my brain had melted and i couldn’t remember my logic or who [myself] i was using as the logicpin. Otoh if random WAS scum that would be a tipoff.

 

[Maolfunction]

2190 for sure but i dont see what's sinful about 2195? focusing on D1 so late?

Just that he's pushing a narrative that's entirely plausible, and honestly very likely, as implausible. He wants town to keep focusing their attention on both LP and HP. If town flips one today and that player is town, he'll pivot into the remaining one as definitely scum.

There's no attempt at actually solving the slots here, just pushing the established narrative.

 

[Chuggernaut]

lol, Royal's posts on #2190 and #2195 are both very wolfy and no one is calling them out.

Just the pivot between calling out Fate for dropping his scum read to "Hmmmm what if they're both town" in the very next post

 

[Leo]

Man this is one of those games where it feels like town knows who scum is but they just can't seem to get around to vote them out :(

 

[Leo]

My scum team

Spoiler: Spoilering because I’m basing this off what I remember from gsme review and I may be wrong lol

HP, Malus, Vere/Royal

last slot not sure on there

Spoiler

HP and malus where both being scum read and were competing trains on D1. Don't underestimate your meta reads on D1 people!

 

[anexanhume]

Man this is one of those games where it feels like town knows who scum is but they just can't seem to get around to vote them out :(

We can’t flip HP because he may flip town, so let’s vote these other people who may also flip town.

And they’re gonna save their votes until the last two hours again where scum has an increasingly powerful swing ability each day.

 

[lokiduck]

Also loki should read it and like all my posts :(

why is this game full of ignoramuses who don’t GET the jokes. :(

You can count on it from me

I already miss your Star Trek references and telling Zipped that Borg wouldn't come back emotionless >:(

also it's funny that Zipped mentioned Ferengi. One of my fake claim suggestions was a neutral Ferengi bookie who would bet on who got voted each day phase for Latnium and leave the game if they got enough lol. Fanto said it'd be too mean having the scum team claim netural tho lol.

 

[weemadarthur]

so does that role exist for any purpose other than finding me?

 

[weemadarthur]

Or…..did my evil brother already give me drugs? :smirk:
Would I have been reported to have all emotions at once?

 

[Fanto]

so does that role exist for any purpose other than finding me?

You would have returned a result of "nothing".

 

[weemadarthur]

You would have returned a result of "nothing".

I’d have pushed vere harder but everyone just believed I was town despite the bad red, lol.

 

[anexanhume]

Man Fate is so desperate to talk about his town read on HP that he’s replying to random posts now LOL.

 

[Hedin]

Man Fate is so desperate to talk about his town read on HP that he’s replying to random posts now LOL.

Yeah he's in the opposite tunnel at this point in time, can't see HP as anything beyond town.

 

[weemadarthur]

I get the feeling Zipped may protect bojack, if he has a shot left.

 

[anexanhume]

I get the feeling Zipped may protect bojack, if he has a shot left.

Absolutely, and scum gets one of the most town read players either way.

 

[weemadarthur]

Seems like A mass claim would help town at this point. I don’t think the scum have claimed at all, except HP with his public usage.

 

[weemadarthur]

The ready room should be telling zipped what I said about vere’s role.

 

[A Wild Shark Appears]

Nat didn’t replace me Zipped

 

[anexanhume]

We don't have time to test claims or wagons anymore

well that’s not gonna help you LP.

 

[weemadarthur]

Still not clear on whether natiko or random is the last scum then….

 

[weemadarthur]

Just noticed my death gif….perfect. :chefskiss:

 

[Faddy]

Seems like A mass claim would help town at this point. I don’t think the scum have claimed at all, except HP with his public usage.

At this point I don't think it would hurt. Not sure how much help it is going to be.