EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
Yea Ty is the safest kill
Spectator Thread Every day they're out there making duck puns
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The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Tomorrow should be a good day of mafia. I feel bad for the remaining townies, think they're all fairly brain burned from having pretty much full information the last few day phases now.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Well maybe the final woochuck will share itLP never left my list of potential ppl.
The fact that LP is the last scum makes me feel better. We still have a chance. I think me assuming there were 2 scum played a lot into it.
Me bickering with Neeks didnt help, but I honestly tried my hardest to avoid it.
Neeks defending launch like that.......man idk if I couldve shaken that next day phase.
I had a nice ass post on LP in woodchucks chat. The post I mentioned in the game thread. Probably better I shouldve posted it.
Agree. LP maybe twice checked, but he has had plenty of suspicion.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
@LaunchpadMcQ Congrats on the win! You earned it :D
Also be sure to thank LP post game for being a friend to neutrals.
Also def check out scum chat because as well it was quiet even before it was just LP XD He did have some gratitude to you for letting him live ;)
Also be sure to thank LP post game for being a friend to neutrals.
Also def check out scum chat because as well it was quiet even before it was just LP XD He did have some gratitude to you for letting him live ;)
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
phew well, this is awkward :|
In lieu of having a well-defined win condition and having the owner of the money constantly changing, I really was just trying to play the game as town all throughout that. So me not gunning for LP harder was actually just me not being sure. And now I’m reading he did all that to help me out! I’m so conflicted.
I would’ve gone to LP next, actually maybe today if things didn’t come to a head between Zeke and I, but I was by no means sure. And I had pretty much written off winning, so long as town could win.
@EzekelRAGE sorry it played out the way it did. I was always going to side with town. I had convinced myself that your tunneling and trying to dismiss the positive points I was making was just that you were scum. I think you come off strongly and it’s hard to figure out what the right response is, so I basically went to scum reading you and going on the defensive. I had no idea voting you out was also how I would exit the game, but I wish we could’ve worked together to get there.
I genuinely hope town can see past the green check. I have to wonder how people weigh a green check higher than scum actions not making logical sense (like malus blocking Sneeks). I probably should’ve pressed that point more.
In lieu of having a well-defined win condition and having the owner of the money constantly changing, I really was just trying to play the game as town all throughout that. So me not gunning for LP harder was actually just me not being sure. And now I’m reading he did all that to help me out! I’m so conflicted.
I would’ve gone to LP next, actually maybe today if things didn’t come to a head between Zeke and I, but I was by no means sure. And I had pretty much written off winning, so long as town could win.
@EzekelRAGE sorry it played out the way it did. I was always going to side with town. I had convinced myself that your tunneling and trying to dismiss the positive points I was making was just that you were scum. I think you come off strongly and it’s hard to figure out what the right response is, so I basically went to scum reading you and going on the defensive. I had no idea voting you out was also how I would exit the game, but I wish we could’ve worked together to get there.
I genuinely hope town can see past the green check. I have to wonder how people weigh a green check higher than scum actions not making logical sense (like malus blocking Sneeks). I probably should’ve pressed that point more.
doing it because I love all three of you <3
I wish I were that good.
EzekelRAGE
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Meh, all good. The assumption of 2 scum.........I couldnt risk letting you stay :(.
Like legit I didnt even think about scum winning with my flip(with you leaving the game because I died) until 15min before eod when I did the math. That's why I made the claim then.
Hawthorn
I'll explain my reasons later
I too am rooting for my little nephew LP, of course. I think he could have this.
Congrats on winning Launch!! It's good to see good play and capitalism winning out in the end XD
My view of godfathers (and millers) was always that they're not bastard because the results are phrased like "you got the result: town" or "your check returned the result: not town" or whatever, to me this is meaningfully different from the mod saying the player is town.
Congrats on winning Launch!! It's good to see good play and capitalism winning out in the end XD
My view of godfathers (and millers) was always that they're not bastard because the results are phrased like "you got the result: town" or "your check returned the result: not town" or whatever, to me this is meaningfully different from the mod saying the player is town.
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The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Anyone notice a little flavor clue in Zeke flip that could help Wee today?
Wee mentioned her pm has a snippet of theme song. Zeke and some other townies had that too. However it's only a few townies so scum wee would need to be observant to pick up on it and she'd be risking reusing the same snippet as one of the remaining townies.
Hawthorn
I'll explain my reasons later
I only support duck capitalism XD
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
i swear the majority of times i roll scum i end up as the godfather. no one ever checks me
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
I think there was a game where Blarg was a Godfather and he tried really hard to get checked. He never did lol.
AND OH YEAH wasn't I a Godfather in HvV3? And Stan checked me, but he didn't have the time to say anything about it before I got ITA'd. Time zones or something, or maybe he never got the results because one of the million actions in that game prevented it. Don't remember.
I would be interested in hearing how other gamerunners handle this because I don't really think we have a standardized message for results, I personally go with the "is/is not town". I hadn't really thought about the distinction until you posted this and what you say makes sense but at the same time I wonder if the nuance will really be picked up by the players or if they just focus on the yes/no aspect of the message.
EZA. We were trying so hard for that check and then one night I bought an item that would produce a green check for me and never got it.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
sorry to LP for trying to help me out, but my heart belongs to town. sending them all my energy today \o/
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
I rolled godfather two games in a roll - Transistor 1 then Risk. Never got checked in either. In Risk, the cop, Puns, said I was acting too sus and trying to bait a check. He was right
EzekelRAGE
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even if today is a misvote, town may still be able to win.
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
Well let's see how this goes!
Town has to get it, misvote + night kill ends it. Pretty sure there isn't protection left.
EzekelRAGE
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EzekelRAGE
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VA has a percentage based BP(Wish he didnt mention the percentage on it) and a Double Vote. VA shouldnt use the double today.
LP has to Yolo a kill on LP tonight to win and hope RNG gawds favor him.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
VA noooooo
EzekelRAGE
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No VA...........dont just rush through it.
LaunchpadMcQ
...can I smell you?
Sneeks isn’t buying it. There’s still a chance!
EzekelRAGE
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There we go Neeks............you know im too fucking paranoid to mention the money in chat!!!
EzekelRAGE
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Hawthorn
I'll explain my reasons later
Great opening play by LP, and from VA's reaction I think it's going to work
Yeah, to me it's a huge difference, but I can't say if that's the same for everybody reading it. I think it's worth it being careful with the phrasing, but that's just my opinion.
Yeah, to me it's a huge difference, but I can't say if that's the same for everybody reading it. I think it's worth it being careful with the phrasing, but that's just my opinion.
I remember that - I was scum with you in both games, my first two games in fact! We tried so hard to have you checked...I rolled godfather two games in a roll - Transistor 1 then Risk. Never got checked in either. In Risk, the cop, Puns, said I was acting too sus and trying to bait a check. He was right
I would've been kind of disappointed if the game went by without scum lying about something that was said in the neighbor chat. Feels so cloak and dagger.I didnt mention the money at all in chat lol
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I have to admit, I went "well damn" at him opening with that.
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
I don't think VA really believes that LP post, he just wants the game over like the rest of the people still in it, results be damned, lol.
I'm hoping wee comes in, calls LP's bluff, and it's Sneeks and wee vs LP and VA, with VA switching his vote to be the hero.
EzekelRAGE
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Thing is...........we have time. There's no need to Yolo and put a vote down. Even if he just wants to yolo it others may want to try and solve.
HPSauce
Wait, I was right? Fuck
Hope died with you Bojack.
EzekelRAGE
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Thank you. Now go back to the malus vote, I had to ping him to vote there too.
Leo
Quack Pack King
Did you figure it out it would only work with a character who wasn't a duck, though? lol
Y'know, because it's a toothbrush, it only works if you have teeth lol
EzekelRAGE
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Like.......I think it could be argued this post from me says LP didnt know or at the least I was more worried about a nightkill, and wouldnt tell LP.
does this mean you reject my breakup? if so we're basically married now, no takebacks
man that is a TELL
don't tell LP we noticed
EzekelRAGE
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Question for the gamerunners that I was curious about earlier. If Neeks or Z beat were scum with their abilities(Loud Watcher/Tracker), would that be considered bastardish?
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Hahahh that's so true.
EzekelRAGE
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Would that make you polyamorous?
EzekelRAGE
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I think another thing in these lategame scenarios is...................town needs to do the safe plays.
There was no reason not to vote launch last day phase - gives ppl time to reset etc.
There is no reason not to to consider a no vote today - Make scum choose the F3. Why is the confirmed greencheck in the f3 over Neeks/Weems/VA.
There was no reason not to vote launch last day phase - gives ppl time to reset etc.
There is no reason not to to consider a no vote today - Make scum choose the F3. Why is the confirmed greencheck in the f3 over Neeks/Weems/VA.
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
It's very wee reasoning.I'm town because I'm town....
Wee should probably consider that if Sneeks was scum she could just have agreed with LP and VA and won, but I know it's easier to say that from over here on the sidelines.
EzekelRAGE
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It forces him to kill Neeks if they no vote today.
Ty4on
The 4 is silent
I won as a peeked Godfather ^.^
My entire team sans one all lived, but it was still nice.
It's a wonderful post.I'm town because I'm town....
EzekelRAGE
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Damn..........town didnt even let me get to 700
HPSauce
Wait, I was right? Fuck
I needed 22 more posts to hit 2k total on my account. Kinda sad I got chased off before I could hit that number lol.
Damn..........town didnt even let me get to 700
EzekelRAGE
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That post from weems about the godfather not being likely
HPSauce
Wait, I was right? Fuck
Which scenario is most likely: scum Sneeks who isn't just agreeing with LP for some reason or scum LP... like there's literally no arguement that Sneeks can be scum now. It's inconceivable.That post from weems about the godfather not being likely
EzekelRAGE
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Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Not gonna lie, I took note of that too, and I thought that was going to be the thing to swing this in favor of town. Wee missing that isn't going to help neeks feel better about that slot, and with VA having his mind up already, this is going to be an LP win
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
lol wee gonna vote Sneeks?
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Risk ended like it should have ::p
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
I think past a certain point, like, after day 4, replacements shouldn't happen. Just kill the slot.
EzekelRAGE
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Fuck it, if im LP I push for the no vote. Target VA for the NK. If it fails, push for another no vote and nk VA since his bp is gone. Final 3 is me wee neeks.
This is a game of endurance.
This is a game of endurance.
It kind of depends on the list and the players on the list, some will keep up and others won't really. Personally if I am top 3 on replacements I try to keep up as much as possible but if I am towards the bottom I tend to slack off. Wee is in an even harder spot as they did a solid and volunteered as a replacement even though they weren't on the list originally.
It's cute that you presume I'm not generally!
But nah, it just means I deeply appreciate smart and slightly evil lady lawyers, especially when they play mafia. Or at least I appreciate the cleverness of a particular Hawthorn a lot and delight in being weird about it. It's a thing.
Yeah, regardless of what happens here, wee did everyone a favor. May sideeye the choices but nothing but respect for falling on that sword for folks.
EC: it's hard for gamerunners to make that call. There are times it would really impact the events of a game. If the last scum has to replace? It's game over under this policy just because it happens to be day 4. This game would have ended with malus's death if we were on that. It's really disheartening if a game ends on a technicality and I think it's pretty shitty to ask someone to go through the work of designing a game, waiting for it to run, running it, and then just blowing it up because some people had to dip. Kinda shitty for the rest of the players who've put in work, too. Replacements aren't ideal, and it's something we've struggled with a lot over the years, but when it's just one or two people in a game this size, you often hardly see the impacts, even late game.
Players can always vote to kill a replacing slot and sometimes it's a really good idea, but we are reluctant to do it because it seems "mean." I think it's better for town to decide than to throw it to an arbitrary day marker or even to let the gamerunner decide.
Grr autocorrect messed up my bad joke and I didn't even notice.
was it a pun
we love puns
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
VA's voting record
Sometimes you gotta just fire from the hip with a gut read.
Sometimes you gotta just fire from the hip with a gut read.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yeah LP is giving it his all, so I'm def rooting for him and town :goodciv:
As for GFs, I like your stance on it as it makes sense to me on why it doesn't count as bastard as that way.
For me personally with how I handle cop results, i go with the standard "your target is x" as I don't want to say the specific name of their target as it may tell them if someone got swapped which is a genuine other way to avoid a red check for scum.
So based on Thorny's stance it def doesn't count as mod lying since it's the results. XD
Gotta give LP props for taking advantage of your deathI didnt mention the money at all in chat lol
Thanks Ephi got revealing it :D
Yep VA was probs trying to bait a night kill because he wants out of the game LOL.
But it wouldn't be as good if you knew what the items were ;)
Happens to most confirm town LOL.
She can do it I believe in her
There's no way this can be legal! D:< Unless we take Hedin's suggestion of Polyamory >:(LOL no thanks. While there's a precedent for it with games that have gone on for 200 pages, as someone who replaced into the final day of a game and still messed it up for town by voting wrong, it's still good that I did instead of my slot getting killed and scum just winning it because it would have been 1:1 town and scum.
No one wants to win because of a modkill and that's why Conspiracy 2 isn't a very fondly remembered game. >> While it's insane to expect replacements to have been keeping up with the game, especially in wee's case as she was a last minute replacement, they are the required dirty job that help keep this mafia ship running, and we should also celebrate them fo it. XD
It was supposed to be pollyamorous to keep with the bird theme.
autocorrect has no sense of humor
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
EzekelRAGE
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EzekelRAGE
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Like..........there is no reason to just give up.
Like if you are going to do that and you dont care about losing, just unvote and let the other 3 decide then.
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
Imagine being okay losing to...
A.) A singular scum player who has been on his own for a majority of the game now.
B.) A singular scum player who replaced in.
I'd retire from mafia on the spot and go live with the Amish.
A.) A singular scum player who has been on his own for a majority of the game now.
B.) A singular scum player who replaced in.
I'd retire from mafia on the spot and go live with the Amish.
EzekelRAGE
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There is no reason to rely on flavor to solve this late in the game.
Me, a person who hates flavor discussion, wouldnt even care for the inheritance stuff to talk with LP about it.
Me, a person who hates flavor discussion, wouldnt even care for the inheritance stuff to talk with LP about it.
EvilChameleon
Are you scum?
Flavor is what I would use to build a case against LP, so it was very wise of him to get rid of me when he did, otherwise this game would have been over days ago.There is no reason to rely on flavor to solve this late in the game.
Me, a person who hates flavor discussion, wouldnt even care for the inheritance stuff to talk with LP about it.
EzekelRAGE
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LP's only good vote was Malus and that came after I was pinging LP to vote Malus.