Fusion Chat

[Include]

I saw this from Natiko, where did we say we had a new character? I don't recall. We just said our character is includios because we become one.

''- I’m wary of Includious just because completely changing characters is an odd one. I was on board until they revealed that part. Sure they probably got each other’s previous roles to verify info but what does that matter when they get a new character on top of those? Not saying they’re scum but part of me is worried they’re something other than town. That being said I think they’ve played decently well (especially Vere who sticks out in my mind more for whatever reason) so I’ll look elsewhere today.''

Also he does not understand why people are wary of Brazil hmmm


''- Also can anyone give me a TLDR on why Brazil is viewed negatively? I don’t have much of an impression on him, but I know he’s caught a lot of flack. Just can’t remember why.''

If he read the topic like he said he did then he should kn why most of us distrust him. Because Brazil is so damn perfect like who can be so damn perfect all the time unless you have been watching everything you say because you are scum and need to and he doesn't scum hunt and just defend himself.

By the way do you town read splinter? Why does he keep on asking and demanding to get the tardis? It's like he has it and keeping on asking for it he try to confirm his claim to have given it away.

 

[Include]

Wait what a few posts later he says he didn't read more than half of day1 and yet came up with a read list? Wtf where did he get from? His scum mate?

I'm talking about Natiko

 

[Include]

Did Stan just admit to being scum?

''so like, where are all these town-reads coming from?
not that i mind, just would be neat to take note of for any future games where i do roll scum.''

He was town read by Natiko and he seems shocked by it? Surprised? Huh? Am I reading too much into it?

 

[Include]

Heroes VS Villains Mafia - The Greatest Battle In History

Is Fran & Terra freaking serious? hey vere apparently one of us became Roxas. Let's just forget that geno point blank said in the thread that we are includios for the rest of the freaking game forever and ever.

We have so much dirt we need to clear at some point, the amount of theories and questions they have about us is getting crazier and bigger by the minute and since none of us is answering anything we can be accused of avoidance.

To be honest I restrain myself so much for not answering vaguely. Can we discuss it after we decide of our night action please? I want us to decide on a vague answer to give if pressed or to reassure them without fully claiming.

Can we do that? When we are both on the spot, it's either I'm online and they ask me but can't answer without your opinion or you're are online and they ask you and you can't answer without mine.

We need to decide what to say if pressured without fully role claiming or giving hints to scams.

1. Link geno post about the fusion and we are one. Includios forever no changing beyond that

2. Say the earring could have been passed on, used or never used and we didn't know each other alignement before until fused.

3. I decided to fuse because I trusted you since day 1 and my role can be considered lack luster by itself.

4. We are not a new character per say just a new player a fusion of two. basically the role '' siblings ''

5. Our original items works with us just fine. So our characters from the role pm is still ours we are just fused. Goku & vegeta are vegito a fusion of both but the original are still there and exists inside.

6. Vere you told them that our univers became dragon because of my hesitation about my own, this could beat us in the ass because of the theory animé being neutral : Nicole, silky, kalor, and Dr who being TV show. There is an undeniable pattern so far at least for them. We should try to turn it around.

 

[Verelios]

1. Don't link Geno's post, that will get us killed.
2-3-4. We don't need to elaborate on the fusion or its process, they're not curious and just want to let everyone know they're wary of us fusing.
5. They know that since we got Zephyrs gun and Hecht was able to use the Dragon Balls.
6. Not really, it's the truth that we became DB but that's more tied to the Potara earings and not our universes. And maybe there's a pattern...I don't know, we've only really seen a few flips and only two townie besides.

The conclusion is: don't worry about it so much, we're not on the chopping block for now. We can claim cop tomorrow and clear some things up but we run the risk of getting blocked/switched/Strong Killed. Hmmm, yeah, claiming tomorrow should be good since the pool of players will be lower.

 

[Verelios]

@Geno Does our BP take precedence over scum strong kills?

 

[Verelios]

@Geno When does day start begin because I might be busy at that time. Working around my schedule.

 

[Geno]

Yes, your bp cannot be stopped from strong kills.
Day starts in around 37 hours.
Also I want to apologize for yesterdays horrible question

 

[Include]

1. Don't link Geno's post, that will get us killed.
2-3-4. We don't need to elaborate on the fusion or its process, they're not curious and just want to let everyone know they're wary of us fusing.
5. They know that since we got Zephyrs gun and Hecht was able to use the Dragon Balls.
6. Not really, it's the truth that we became DB but that's more tied to the Potara earings and not our universes. And maybe there's a pattern...I don't know, we've only really seen a few flips and only two townie besides.

The conclusion is: don't worry about it so much, we're not on the chopping block for now. We can claim cop tomorrow and clear some things up but we run the risk of getting blocked/switched/Strong Killed. Hmmm, yeah, claiming tomorrow should be good since the pool of players will be lower.

Yeah I over worry haha. I'm too emotional in this game. Gotta build up that cool attitude at some point haha. Alright fair point is fair.

 

[Verelios]

Yes, your bp cannot be stopped from strong kills.
Day starts in around 37 hours.
Also I want to apologize for yesterdays horrible question

Haha, no problem. I wouldn't have gotten a platforming question anyway =/

 

[Include]

Yes, your bp cannot be stopped from strong kills.
Day starts in around 37 hours.
Also I want to apologize for yesterdays horrible question

Does that mean we cannot be killed by a strong man? Sorry I'm confused.

Also you have been running this game beautifully so don't you worry. Shit happens sometimes you don't have to apologize.

 

[Geno]

Yeah, strongman will not kill you(Of course this is assuming any women are alive in the game, which I cannot confirm or deny)

 

[Include]

Yeah, strongman will not kill you(Of course this is assuming any women are alive in the game, which I cannot confirm or deny)

OK, thank you!

@Verelios we don't have to worry about being killed if we claim, awesome but we may be role blocked forever. And we can be erased too.

By the way I am pretty sure the eraser is splinter and he is town. All his scum read disappeared if you noticed.

He was the last with the tardis until he claimed otherwise.

 

[Include]

@Verelios can we investigate tearable? if he is town then mafia will keep him for us to lynch and if he is town than we need to clear him tomorrow especially if we claim.

Natiko is gonna be a tough nut to crack for sure and I can see why it would be good to get him out of our way but lifelines caused distrust because of his lies and iirc he had some ties with fep or something and also added to nin's distrust of his claim. So sooner or later he will be going for the chopping block.

 

[Include]

Also if he is mafia it means faircure is mafia as well coz she green checked him. Two bird with 1 stone

 

[Verelios]

@Verelios can we investigate tearable? if he is town then mafia will keep him for us to lynch and if he is town than we need to clear him tomorrow especially if we claim.

Natiko is gonna be a tough nut to crack for sure and I can see why it would be good to get him out of our way but lifelines caused distrust because of his lies and iirc he had some ties with fep or something and also added to nin's distrust of his claim. So sooner or later he will be going for the chopping block.

Yeah, we can investigate Puns. It's just as good as any other option, probably better since he was the other wagon today.

Although I think you're underestimating how much town second guesses themselves. Natiko's a strong player, and the first thing he did was distance himself away from Lifelines...whatever, I can see the majority of people giving him a pass based just based on his activity. Well, it's something we can discuss next night phase if he's alive.

 

[Verelios]

Also if he is mafia it means faircure is mafia as well coz she green checked him. Two bird with 1 stone

That doesn't necessarily mean FC is mafia. She could be neutral or a mafia recruiter. I don't believe she's town at the moment though.

 

[Include]

That doesn't necessarily mean FC is mafia. She could be neutral or a mafia recruiter. I don't believe she's town at the moment though.

Yes, she can be either for sure.

What's your opinion about tearable? At some point you considered lynching him, do you scum read him?

 

[Include]

Oh wow tearable took both items wth

 

[Include]

1. Don't link Geno's post, that will get us killed

To be clear I'm talking about the one in the game thread not pm or here. The one that everyone saw but seem to have forgotten already.

 

[Include]

Alright Terra is actually a scum and so is tearable for certain!!

They both lied about something very important.

Terra had his item devil's gene. He said it disappeared at first than change his story and said it was stolen, his mistake though he said it was '' mid day'' not at night. https://www.resetera.com/posts/5379766/

Yet thanks to kalor flip we know he only steal at night and yet TearablePuns said he got the devil's gene from the first quizz.

So either one or both are lying to us.

 

[Verelios]

Good catch, and Tearable is almost certainly scum. Do you want to investigate and make sure or just lynch him tomorrow?

 

[Verelios]

@Geno if we're not here before day end, investigate Tearable.

You can change this if you want Include, this is just a fail safe.

 

[Include]

Good catch, and Tearable is almost certainly scum. Do you want to investigate and make sure or just lynch him tomorrow?

Honestly I am pretty sure everyone will lynch him tomorrow, there is no way he get away with it. I feel like it's a wasted investigation on him now. He is most certainly a scum, no way a townie will do that.

Now I am interested on Splinter or Natiko. I have this feeling that splinter makes people disappear and I have not forgotten that he pushed his town circle then run away from it when he got heat.

For now lets get back to Natiko until you give me your opinion about splinter.

Investigate: Natiko

 

[Include]

@Geno just in case you didn't see the above command.

 

[Geno]

Acknowledged

 

[Include]

Acknowledged

Thank you.

 

[Include]

Let's sum up our results :

- N1 investigate Monkey Results : Untargetable

- N2 investigate Saw Results : Hero

- N3 investigate Brazil Results: Sorian is a hero

-N4 investigate Natiko Results :?

@Verelios what did geno write exactly about monkey? Did he say Untargetable?or no results?

 

[Verelios]

Hmmmm, he said the action failed. It might have been because of a RB in hindsight, so we'll use action failed in that case.

Splinter is an interesting case. I can see town and scum splinter acting like this with heavy focus the first few days and diminished presence the next. It really depends on how he's voting. I wouldn't be surprised if he was neutral though and wanted to be more hands off. That, or he has an important PR.

 

[Geno]

Natiko is NOT a Hero

 

[Verelios]

Whoop, I GOT YOUR ASS NATIKO. YEAAAAHHH BOI

 

[Include]

Whoop, I GOT YOUR ASS NATIKO. YEAAAAHHH BOI

Oh man you have an amazing gut feeling, partner! You rock.

 

[Verelios]

Oh man you have an amazing gut feeling, partner! You rock.

We both do \o/

It's time to charge, charge, charge!

 

[Include]

We both do \o/

It's time to charge, charge, charge!

Loved your gifs! So glad tonight I had a birthday and was able to see your glorious reveal.

 

[Geno]

I love your gifs too Vere haha.

 

[Verelios]

Loved your gifs! So glad tonight I had a birthday and was able to see your glorious reveal.

I love your gifs too Vere haha.

Thanks guys.

Include, of the remaining people who seems most suspect? I think we should order them from top priority to least.

I have Hecht->Stan->Puns

How about you?

 

[Include]

Thanks guys.

Include, of the remaining people who seems most suspect? I think we should order them from top priority to least.

I have Hecht->Stan->Puns

How about you?

Since splinter gave the item to Stan and Stan kept quiet about regardless of splinters plea I will go:

Stan - monkey (her fights with Brazil seemed like fluff and she voted and unvoted him once their argument ends 4 days out of 4) - Terra (the mid day steal of the devil's gene need to be checked) - Hecht

Puns claimed silver who is targeted by mafia and no one claimed sonic minus him, got green checked too.

Hecht is refusing to give you your item which is suspicious as heck especially that Natiko confirmed us already, I don't know what he is playing at and I hope others will pressure him to send it before the flip.

 

[Verelios]

We can't prove anything with Terra though because he claimed Miller. It'll be hard because he's literally saying 'if you check me, you'll see I'm scum' which is horrible.

I agree on Monkey, Stan and Hecht. How much do you believe Hechts claim on being untargetable, and do you think he'll use it tonight? Same question for Monkey.

 

[Verelios]

So...much...noise

Wow, that's exhausting to read

 

[Include]

So...much...noise

Wow, that's exhausting to read

It makes me feel uncomfortable honestly but it's the nature of a tunnel, I suppose. Anyhow good morning!

By the way monkey never said she was a female before and today she Chara claimed a guy twisted fate.

Only Muffin remains as the only person who didn't claim a gender, I'd he is 1 male too we are done for unless Crimson protects us.

 

[Include]

We can't prove anything with Terra though because he claimed Miller. It'll be hard because he's literally saying 'if you check me, you'll see I'm scum' which is horrible.

I agree on Monkey, Stan and Hecht. How much do you believe Hechts claim on being untargetable, and do you think he'll use it tonight? Same question for Monkey.

I believe he has 1 shot Untargetable which he used and has been bluffing ever since. Would I waste an investigation and risk it thought? We will have to wait and see how this day unfold and if he ever give us back our item.

Stan is sketch and his super mega revelation coming up its really scary it can be a Pokémon that destroys the world or something. Pokémon can be evil.

Monkey has been in my scum lean since sawneeks disappeared and then her vote /unvote of Brazil for North reasons. She is scum in my book and since today she is letting us chose her action we can perhaps investigate her?

Either her or Stan but if Hecht doesn't give us then Yeah maybe take a risk. One thing for sure we may get erased or killed

 

[Include]

@Verelios can I write this to Hecht?

No, I mean, you guys are pretty OP. And the other item is "Ryuk's Pen." I have some reservations about giving that one up willy-nilly. That said if what Vere says is true then I see no reason to keep holding it.

Forgive me if I'm going to confirm something like this

Really now? You had no problem giving my gun back before we were confirmed at all, it seems back then when people thought we may have been neutral you were OK giving it away and yet somehow now that there is no denying that we are town and one of the most important role at that (and we did provid green and red checks) you don't want to do it.


What more confirmations do you need? You don't believe Natiko is anti town and his own admittance? What else gonna be different next day?


Are you waiting for our flip because unless Crimson protect us if not role blocked and there is no erasing situation going on we are most likely next to be night killed.


If you are town, refusing the empower your cop is the stupidest thing I have read and please don't tell me we are more OP than the anti town/town flips we saw so far because now that we are in the open we may as well get night killed this night or next.

You'll have to wait a few days to check me

I expect a townie to say that ''even if they try I will return town anyway'' but you seem proud and cocky about us not being able to investigate you.


Honestly, keep the ryuk's pen if you want because unless it give us a day action it's useless since we are most likely gonna die but do admit to have no excuses for refusing to do it.

 

[Verelios]

Good reply, go for it! I'd like to see what he responds with that's not 'I'm waiting for Natikos flip'

 

[Verelios]

I believe he has 1 shot Untargetable which he used and has been bluffing ever since. Would I waste an investigation and risk it thought? We will have to wait and see how this day unfold and if he ever give us back our item.

Stan is sketch and his super mega revelation coming up its really scary it can be a Pokémon that destroys the world or something. Pokémon can be evil.

Monkey has been in my scum lean since sawneeks disappeared and then her vote /unvote of Brazil for North reasons. She is scum in my book and since today she is letting us chose her action we can perhaps investigate her?

Either her or Stan but if Hecht doesn't give us then Yeah maybe take a risk. One thing for sure we may get erased or killed

Monkey said her actions were affected by RNG, so whether she's telling the truth or not we can't decide her actions.

True, we may get killed tonight. Buckle up partner!

 

[Include]

Monkey said her actions were affected by RNG, so whether she's telling the truth or not we can't decide her actions.

True, we may get killed tonight. Buckle up partner!

Apparently today she can chose Thanks to her item.

By the way if I insist on our item they may ask to elaborate each other roles, for now they seem to think I was the original cop and you just have the votes.

What are we gonna explain about me? Bp unlynchable with a condition about female (sounds neutral as heck).

Do you have good ideas?

 

[Verelios]

Apparently today she can chose Thanks to her item.

By the way if I insist on our item they may ask to elaborate each other roles, for now they seem to think I was the original cop and you just have the votes.

What are we gonna explain about me? Bp unlynchable with a condition about female (sounds neutral as heck).

Do you have good ideas?

Uh, let's pocket your abilities for now. If we tell them we're BP (maybe) scum may want to do something about that, not to mention Town will try and see if we can get lynched (Because they're dumb like that). Its better to keep that information to ourself for self preservation. We do a lot more for town alive than dead.

 

[Verelios]

We can still ask for our items though.

 

[Include]

You know Hecht got attacked by Natiko and since he has been talking about lynching him. Really seems like he is a neutral too or a scum.

Does not help that he pretend not to have gotten his item.

@Verelios should we ask to be protected tonight or let them do whatever? Should we ask who they want us to investigate?

 

[Verelios]

On both accounts, no. I don't think there are any protective roles left besides Crimson, so we might as well let the chips fall where they may. As for investigation, that would make it easier for them to switch or block us.

 

[Include]

On both accounts, no. I don't think there are any protective roles left besides Crimson, so we might as well let the chips fall where they may. As for investigation, that would make it easier for them to switch or block us.

Good points.

 

[Verelios]

I'm not sure if it's fortunate or unfortunate that we have Natiko to lynch today. We're going to have to lynch Terra eventually...that's already a forsaken choice since he claimed miller.

*sigh, but going against the grain to rally for a Fair or Terra lynch would be like telling them I want one of them dead. Which I do, because it makes life easier for me, but I can see that spiraling out of control next day. I don't know, what do you think we should do?

 

[Include]

@Verelios do we go Natiko tonight? While the possibility of him helping us is nice I'm not sure it's worth the risk, he may be lying about his target or his character.

Faircure is an interesting lynch too.

 

[Include]

I'm not sure if it's fortunate or unfortunate that we have Natiko to lynch today. We're going to have to lynch Terra eventually...that's already a forsaken choice since he claimed miller.

*sigh, but going against the grain to rally for a Fair or Terra lynch would be like telling them I want one of them dead. Which I do, because it makes life easier for me, but I can see that spiraling out of control next day. I don't know, what do you think we should do?

Haha we posted at the same time, great minds think alike :p

 

[Verelios]

Haha we posted at the same time, great minds think alike :p

True. We can sway the vote either way but that won't be a good choice, all things considered. It might become a reason for them to band together and lynch us.

 

[Include]

True. We can sway the vote either way but that won't be a good choice, all things considered. It might become a reason for them to band together and lynch us.

Yeah unless they all suddenly want to try Sorian's offer we have no choice but to go for Natiko. I really wanna whine about your item but we antagonized Hecht and people didn't like it, this will make it clear why we did so...

 

[Include]

Not sure if it's good look but then again are we even gonna make it tonight.

 

[Verelios]

If there's still a female chara in game, we'll make it. If there's not then we're dead. It's pretty much like that.

I'm still hoping to be alive to catch more scum though =(

 

[Include]

If there's still a female chara in game, we'll make it. If there's not then we're dead. It's pretty much like that.

I'm still hoping to be alive to catch more scum though =(

Only Muffin is unknown all the rest are genderless or males. So unless he is Princess peach which I doubt with him being a vig or something. We are dead lol.

Regardless it was cool fusing with you vere, thanks for being awesome :)

 

[Verelios]

Pretty sure Monkey is scum from that last interaction =(

Also pretty sure Terra is scum

Hecht is half/half probably scum though

 

[Include]

@Verelios calling out Hecht nonsense gave me great satisfaction, but I am kinda disappointed with Fran though he had more fire in Buffy,i expected him to at least ask Hecht for a legit explanation.

Anyhow, good luck to us. I had a ton of fun.

 

[Include]

Pretty sure Monkey is scum from that last interaction =(

Also pretty sure Terra is scum

Hecht is half/half probably scum though

Yep for sure. Oh well we tried didn't we? We did our best and had fun.

 

[Include]

Oh wow Natiko, I trusted your claim. How dare you lie to us and make us feel bad about lynching you? You meanie you.

 

[Geno]

You guys received the item Ryuk's Pen, if owned by L then Mello and Near will assisst by providing the heroes help.
Choose one of the 3.
INFO 1
INFO 2
INFO 3

 

[Include]

@Verelios come we got a prezie

 

[Verelios]

What do you like Include? I'm partial to 1.

 

[Verelios]

We should hurry to disseminate info in an hour

 

[Verelios]

What do you like Include? I'm partial to 1.

I meant 2

 

[Include]

I meant 2

Middle of the road seems nice. I'm OK with it.

 

[Geno]

Just bold it with red color when you guys choose

 

[Verelios]

Middle of the road seems nice. I'm OK with it.

Really? Okay, so we're in agreement for 2?

 

[Include]

Really? Okay, so we're in agreement for 2?

Yep, I always go middle on games like this.

 

[Verelios]

2

 

[Verelios]

Show me the money @Geno

 

[Geno]

Near:Roxas is boosting the voting power of the organization

 

[Verelios]

What the what!?

 

[Include]

@Verelios we made the right call. Woah.

 

[Verelios]

I wonder if that means he's always boosting their voting power or if they can choose when it boosts.

@Geno is vote boosting an active or passive power? Can I ask that?

 

[Include]

What the what!?

Roxas is what nin became or enabled after his lynch and he give them a double or triple vote or something.

Meaning a scum can have more voting power thanks to that power up they got.

 

[Verelios]

@Verelios we made the right call. Woah.

Hi-5 Partner, we're the greatest!

 

[Geno]

I can't say anything else, next night you can pick one of the other 2 remaining

 

[Verelios]

Roxas is what nin became or enabled after his lynch and he give them a double or triple vote or something.

Meaning a scum can have more voting power thanks to that power up they got.

Yeah, real strange how people didn't vote today

 

[Verelios]

Hmmm, guess we'll just give town this information and hopefully they see the light

 

[Include]

Hi-5 Partner, we're the greatest!

 

[Include]

Yeah, real strange how people didn't vote today

Not just today actually the previous day it was the same story.

Gonna check who didn't vote since nin's flip.

 

[Include]

Hmmm, guess we'll just give town this information and hopefully they see the light

We are still Doomed but of course we should give it to them right away before someone steal the item and the 1h finishes early.

 

[Verelios]

We are still Doomed but of course we should give it to them right away before someone steal the item and the 1h finishes early.

Yep, though scum might try and steal the item anyway

 

[Include]

Yep, though scum might try and steal the item anyway

Faircure and Splinter didn't vote today.

 

[Include]

Did they activate their power to save faircure tonight and this is why they didn't vote.

Also that Splinter disclaimer is scum as hell now.

 

[Include]

@Verelios Yay managed to do it. Goddammit Hecht why must you answer so fast.

 

[Verelios]

Goddamit Hecht, really suspicious how he answered so fast. And Tearable, WHAT THE FUCK, AGAIN!?

 

[Include]

Goddamit Hecht, really suspicious how he answered so fast. And Tearable, WHAT THE FUCK, AGAIN!?

At least we gave the info. Hopefully town aren't too stupid to understand it.

 

[Include]

I had a better pretyped message but my phone didn't want to past it. Oh well.

 

[Verelios]

*sigh, who do you want to investigate tonight if we live?

 

[Include]

*sigh, who do you want to investigate tonight if we live?

No way we live, I was pretty sure Fran was the only female heck even the banner shows it.

But eh let's check either splinter, Hecht, monkey or Stan.

 

[Verelios]

Alright, I'll vote for either Splinter or Stan, you can choose and put it in.

 

[Include]

I don't care about risking it on either monkey or Hecht,just so you know. We can change it later but just in case.

Investigate: *Splinter

 

[Include]

@Geno our action for now.

 

[Verelios]

I don't care about risking it on either monkey or Hecht,just so you know. We can change it later but just in case.

Investigate: *Splinter

Probably better to go for an almost sure thing, but I dunno. There's probably still a switcher running around. Let's think it over.

 

[Include]

Probably better to go for an almost sure thing, but I dunno. There's probably still a switcher running around. Let's think it over.

Faircure claimed it but we also know she may actually be scum not neutral (her and Splinter didn't vote most likely because of the activation of Roxas power). And we know they can delay someone too.

But Hecht and monkey last interaction about maybe not protecting us and how fast he took the item and killed the hour us also scummy. Sure he sent the item but I also said in the thread it's going to be useless during the day phase and I bet he didn't expect us to get news and share it before the night kill.

Stan had promised his mega evolution so we will see about that, not sure it's worth investigating him.

 

[Include]

@Geno if one of the disappeared players is a female, do we benefit from my bp or not? Technically they didn't die so if one is a female, it should be fine right?