80s Wrestling Mafia - Spec Thread

heymonkey

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"So yeah, this'll be the end. I might stick around to formulate my own games, but even that process is tedious and boring, and unless you've done it before, you get very little outside help, so I've got two boards on Outer Mafia just sitting there with flavor and images and roles and nothing else."

No outside help since when? My guy, did you ask?
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Wee thought she was clear, but coming from the the back the Lone Prodigy
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The match this is from is great. Some might say it's....wild :eyes:
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
I expect Z-Beat to come in and do his 'time to bump my post count up lmao' thing again
 

heymonkey

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Z-Beat has less than 5 so he gets removed without question.

Wee gets a warning for being under 10.

Everyone else made it above 10.
I'm sorry. It's bogus when people don't make the minimum and it's a hardship for everyone, especially the gamerunner.

This is what I mean tho when I say we draw lines around play all the time, so we can make rules here. The minimum rule was instituted and workshopped over time to ensure that people wouldn't just sign up and ghost, since there's no way to read that. Even when not-posting is a valid strategy, we all agreed there would be a minimum threshold because it comes down to sportsmanship.
 

heymonkey

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Though I will say I appreciate EC's self reflection here. It IS hard to stay interested in some of the more sustained games, especially when they start to fall apart, and I think it's good to recognize what you prefer and what you don't and I support that!

But I'm also gonna say that a way to fight that boredom in games is to try to work together with folks. :/
 
Though I will say I appreciate EC's self reflection here. It IS hard to stay interested in some of the more sustained games, especially when they start to fall apart, and I think it's good to recognize what you prefer and what you don't and I support that!

But I'm also gonna say that a way to fight that boredom in games is to try to work together with folks. :/

I'll push back slightly on this.. yes games that go long can feel hopeless I still have nightmares about eastenders..

But this game went about as perfectly for town as possible until yesterday, there is no reason to be feeling drained here imo
 

heymonkey

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I'll push back slightly on this.. yes games that go long can feel hopeless I still have nightmares about eastenders..

But this game went about as perfectly for town as possible until yesterday, there is no reason to be feeling drained here imo
I mean, the game going well may also engender boredom and malaise for some! I’m not kinkshaming lol
 

heymonkey

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The problem is ec doesn't like mafia and the way he plays has always reflected that. He's bored because he does nothing.
I agree that taking a more active role is an effective counter there. If you sit by and watch, the game grows boring because everyone is waiting.
Idk what to say.
I know I’m real fucking sorry and YOU and YOUR time and effort deserve more than this. Thank you for everything you do, friend, and I’m sorry that part often goes ignored in these moments.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I don't know if just no one looked at the vote tool, no one knew what time the day ended, or what, but all that information was right there, the countdown was even in the latest vote count i posted in the thread, which showed the vote tied.

I did nothing wrong here, it was all them.
 
I don't know if just no one looked at the vote tool, no one knew what time the day ended, or what, but all that information was right there, the countdown was even in the latest vote count i posted in the thread, which showed the vote tied.

I did nothing wrong here, it was all them.

You absolutely did nothing wrong fanto. This is just town going rogue in a way I've never seen before. I bet even wee is confused by whats happening
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Aw, I've actually never saw Loki play so this will be fun. I don't know what kind of voice she typically is in a game but good luck to her lol I hope she can shake something up here. I would love to know what Wee is making of all this lol I wonder who they're going to kill
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Kop is a great choice.
EC is a worse choice, but still understandable.
People you should not touch rn: LP/Zeke/Sparks/Jman

You can get them to test Jman tomorrow, kill him at night. Go into the next day rounding on LP with Zeke and Sparks. If you get LP, you're very close to winning. Just shoot Zeke.

Jman- Kill 2nd
Kop/EC-Kill one 1st/leave other
Sparks- Kill 3rd
Zeke- Kill 3rd
LP- let him die
Loki-leave for now
Wee- +1
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Kop is a great choice.
EC is a worse choice, but still understandable.
People you should not touch rn: LP/Zeke/Sparks/Jman

You can get them to test Jman tomorrow, kill him at night. Go into the next day rounding on LP with Zeke and Sparks. If you get LP, you're very close to winning. Just shoot Zeke.

Jman- Kill 2nd
Kop/EC-Kill one 1st/leave other
Sparks- Kill 3rd
Zeke- Kill 3rd
LP- let him die
Loki-leave for now
Wee- +1
Leaving LP alive with Loki is risky imo. If those two get on the right page together the game is over.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
I was lying about being unlimited I am only 1 Shot

Scum just made huge mistake killing me IMO.

The tie messed up numbers so town would be tempted to test me twice to get to 3 person Mylo
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Well, I wouldn't go that far yet lol but yeah, I wouldn't have killed you here either. Let's see what happens!
Nothing is guaranteed. (especially since I don't know who last scum is yet.)

However I feel towns position has improved Alot since yesterday.

I was going to open the day By pushing Vote on Either LP or Wee so i guess it's a little helpful to scum if it's one of those 2.

The big thing is I was going to look suspect as hell if i was forced to reveal I was only 1 shot and Town's mood was adamant on testing me.

Getting rid of scum hiding in the distraction of testing me is a positive for Town
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Ok now that I know last scum is Wee. I think she has been playing this game very well and is doing fantastic as last scum with the Hand dealt to her replacing in.

If we Lose I won't even be "that" mad wee Played great.

While this was the wrong spot to kill me IMO Wee did need to kill me before final 3 Because there is never a scenario were I Don't Vote her in Final 3.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Idk what to say.

I hate it here

What an absolute shit show from town. No one noticing the tie just shows no one really cares right now and its kind of bullshit to dead town who worked hard earlier in the game.

I know I’m real fucking sorry and YOU and YOUR time and effort deserve more than this. Thank you for everything you do, friend, and I’m sorry that part often goes ignored in these moments.

I don't know if just no one looked at the vote tool, no one knew what time the day ended, or what, but all that information was right there, the countdown was even in the latest vote count i posted in the thread, which showed the vote tied.

I did nothing wrong here, it was all them.

I am really sorry I let everyone down. If I could go Back in time I would Have Voted myself to Avoid the tie but did not realize it was going to happen.

I thought the Votes was 4 on me 3 on EC. After miscounting the Vote as 4/3 Nobody ever Moved there Vote so I assumed i was the elimination not a tie and my last post reflects how I thought the vote was for me.

I was Present during the full ending sequence But was to wrapped up in changing LP's Mind about Voting for me that I was not rechecking the Voting Tool at all.

It's a Huge Fuckup at basic math/ Failure to recheck Vote tool for 34 active minutes of play that I was present and potentially could have jeopardized the whole game.

I Apologize both to Fanto and All of Town for dropping the Ball and putting your Hard earned win at Risk.
 

heymonkey

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I am really sorry I let everyone down. If I could go Back in time I would Have Voted myself to Avoid the tie but did not realize it was going to happen.
Would have produced the same result. No worries - this is not on any one person alone and you were actually in there with plans and strategies. You did what you could.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Wee:
"You wut?
scum is helped when townies die, the only way scum is helped by lack of vote-out is when scum is the leading wagon."

Welp I guess it's impossible for Her to be scum Pack it Up.

Scum have never done a No Elimination. Never.
 

jman1954goat

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Yeah especially when they aren't actually a wagon and you're not pushing it really. It's an easy bus "Look I was on scum!"

I think you kind of need the context of Jman doing just weird shit with his vote most day phases
This comment confuses me a Bit. I was really Pushing Zipped

also My Votes were not very weird this game IMO
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
@Chuggernaut
Ok i admit My Fake push on you was a Bit unorthodox. If memory serves I was heavily townreading you at the time but i wanted to see who would take the bait and vote for you.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I would Love some constructive feedback on How I played this game. Tell me what I did right and wrong
Don't agree to test your role so readily because town won't appreciate it, they'll kill you and move on. Find people you trust and don't antagonize them for no reason, work together and you'll be in a better situation to push back against votes on you unlike yesterday.

People get irritated playing for all sorts of reasons, remember that there's no problem with taking a break to recollect your thoughts before responding.
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
Overall How did I Handle the Miller Claim? do yall disagree with attempting it all or Wish I full committed to being Fake miller or some other take?
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
if they vote you out and waste a day because you're elim-proof they'll be understandably furious.
Wouldn't this happen No matter How I got Mis-Lynched? I did not choose to be elimination proof.

The reason I picked miller is because Millers never die early.

I knew I was very unlikely to die Early, The way this community plays around the miller role is Very predictable which is why i choose it
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
y hold up town while they focus on you instead of scum
Not just town has to focus on me scum Do Too. The more you force people to have to react to situations the more Data you get to make reads on people.

Scum had to make a Choose to Try to misLynch me or try to defend me knowing im town instead of having Non committal Day 1.

The Very Suspect Push on Hedin is the Type of reactions I am trying to Bait when i Do stuff like this.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Wouldn't this happen No matter How I got Mis-Lynched? I did not choose to be elimination proof.

The reason I picked miller is because Millers never die early.

I knew I was very unlikely to die Early, The way this community plays around the miller role is Very predictable which is why i choose it
The biggest problem is that you're lying for something that has no discernible benefit for town. That makes it hard to trust you and foments suspicion.
Not just town has to focus on me scum Do Too. The more you force people to have to react to situations the more Data you get to make reads on people.

Scum had to make a Choose to Try to misLynch me or try to defend me knowing im town instead of having Non committal Day 1.

The Very Suspect Push on Hedin is the Type of reactions I am trying to Bait when i Do stuff like this.
There's no good way to tell a scum reaction from a town reaction with a fake miller claim. Town could likewise choose to set you aside (and did) or want to vote you out (also did). It just lowers your threat level in scum's eyes because you're a player marked for death to them now.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
All that is fine Jman but purely since you're asking , as someone on your team it would be helpful if you covered the basics as well as the high level gambit plays. Give town reads lists, actively try to work with your town reads to figure out where each of you are going right and where each of you are going wrong. You can do votes to see if scum will follow you etc obviously you do your style of play and I've saw town Sneeks do that a lot, but also just voting who you think is scum transparently is helpful for your team. I think I have a good handle on you but it largely comes down to meta and observing your reactions to clear your slot than your play and that can have a negative impact in late game when people get paranoid and start looking for any reason to vote and makes an easy push for scum.

Basically you should stay you, you bring something unique to the game and I appreciate that. Your play and Hedin's play on D1 played a big part in giving us all something to analyse and judge early game but do regular stuff too because it IS a team game; you need to do stuff that your team can work with in the end. The gambit stuff and weird vote plays etc help you as a solo player, doing the stuff I mentioned above helps us all as a team trying to find each other.
 
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jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
There's no good way to tell a scum reaction from a town reaction with a fake miller claim.
I Heavily disagree with this point For 2 reasons

1. its not just what they say its How they say it.
Chuggs and Hedin for example became instant town reads for me based on reaction to miller claim and they reacted in very different ways.
I never read people on some robotic "Did they beleve miller claim or not" I read them on How they choose to engage in the thread, word choice, decisions etc.

2. People reacting to the miller reactions was super useful in killing Ephi and Zipped

Every Gambit I do is not just accounting for reactions but people Reacting to reactions. This go Layers deeper than some simple "do they believe im miller." that was never the point
 

jman1954goat

Linked the Fire
All that is fine Jman but purely since you're asking , as someone on your team it would be helpful if you covered the basics as well as the high level gambit plays. Give town reads lists, actively try to work with your town reads to figure out where each of you are going right and where each of you are going wrong. You can do votes to see if scum will follow you etc obviously you do your style of play and I've saw town Sneeks do that a lot, but also just voting who you think is scum transparently is helpful for your team. I think I have a good handle on you but it largely comes down to meta and observing your reactions to clear your slot than your play and that can have a negative impact in late game when people get paranoid and start looking for any reason to vote and makes an easy push for scum.

Basically you should stay you, you bring something unique to the game and I appreciate that. Your play and Hedin's play on D1 played a big part in giving us all something to analyse and judge early game but do regular stuff because it IS a team game; you need to do stuff that your team can work with in the end. The gambit stuff and weird vote plays etc help you as a solo players, doing the stuff I mentioned above helps us all as a team trying to find each other.
I am actively working on getting better at all this.
 
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