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Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Live feed from the scum chat:

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I had a normal Hider in LiS, so I dont know why people are saying it's weird for it to not be a Weak Hider. Weak Hider works like a Cop as per the Weak modifier, but a normal Hider is more like a defensive ability with some negative utility in that a double kill can happen. Not that weird in my opinion.
 
I had a normal Hider in LiS, so I dont know why people are saying it's weird for it to not be a Weak Hider. Weak Hider works like a Cop as per the Weak modifier, but a normal Hider is more like a defensive ability with some negative utility in that a double kill can happen. Not that weird in my opinion.
Crazy theory, people who are saying it's weird know his alignment is scummy and are trying to earn town cred by bussing.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Meatwad has GOT to be scum, right? RIGHT!? I had my 3 picks as Kalor, Meatwad, Monkey, without knowing who of the 3 was most likely to be scum. But it is Meatwad. It has to be. This claim combined with mimicking the exact read from Kalor earlier...

Also, has anyone in spec thread accidentally posted in mafia game before? I have both opened, and I am paranoid I'm going to do that on accident.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Meatwad has GOT to be scum, right? RIGHT!? I had my 3 picks as Kalor, Meatwad, Monkey, without knowing who of the 3 was most likely to be scum. But it is Meatwad. It has to be. This claim combined with mimicking the exact read from Kalor earlier...

Also, has anyone in spec thread accidentally posted in mafia game before? I have both opened, and I am paranoid I'm going to do that on accident.
I posted something in scum chat this game meant for here. Thankfully A) I caught it instantly and B) it was just pointing out Fanto's dedication to playing (had no actual game relevant info). During LB3 (I think it was this game at least), I posted something clearly meant for scum chat in the MU spec thread and it sat out there for hours until Pedro noticed it. Thankfully no one else saw it I believe, and he deleted it.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Meatwad has GOT to be scum, right? RIGHT!? I had my 3 picks as Kalor, Meatwad, Monkey, without knowing who of the 3 was most likely to be scum. But it is Meatwad. It has to be. This claim combined with mimicking the exact read from Kalor earlier...

Also, has anyone in spec thread accidentally posted in mafia game before? I have both opened, and I am paranoid I'm going to do that on accident.
Kalor is my top Scum now, I kind of believe the Meatwad claim, feel like Scum would have a more composed claim ready if they have fake ones.

I have never accidentally posted in the game thread instead of Spec, but I worry about it all the time lol.

Also, fuck me it's slow at work today, glad I have this stuff to keep me distracted lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, definitely a good call. I'd probably be down to do things like that in the future in my own games as well if things are really quiet, LiS probably could have used an extension on a day or two.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Zeke's latest line of questioning feels like typical Town Zeke to me, even though I said I wanted to wait to see his votes before giving a read on him lol the Meta is too tempting to ignore.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Zeke's latest line of questioning feels like typical Town Zeke to me, even though I said I wanted to wait to see his votes before giving a read on him lol the Meta is too tempting to ignore.
I was about to comment that I agree, he was coming off pretty town and like his normal Zekey self. Then I realized he subbed in for me and I know answer one way or other. lol
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, definitely a good call. I'd probably be down to do things like that in the future in my own games as well if things are really quiet, LiS probably could have used an extension on a day or two.
Yeah, it's a bit unusual for our community, but it seemed like the best compromise. There's been enough backlash against Hecht Rhythm for incentivizing stagnation (since a turbo gains no time), but at the same time weekend phases are very often ghost towns. I figured fuck it - normal phase cadence but I'll impromptu make exceptions.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I still don't see what makes a normal Hider so controversial? I know I definitely put some uncommon roles in LiS but I thought that was more of a standard one lol.

Oh well, if Meatwad is Town he definitely didnt play it as one would expect, but lots of people have played roles in ways not really considered the "best way" so meh.

If hes Scum then yeah hes just lying about it and maybe made some messy posts about how it worked and who he targeted.
 
Hello to the first member of the evil weirdos!

With meatwad dead I can finally say that unlike Natiko I think town isn't fucked and they have a decent chance if they play their cards right.

Go Town!
I said I'd be supporting the underdogs...
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Hello to the first member of the evil weirdos!

With meatwad dead I can finally say that unlike Natiko I think town isn't fucked and they have a decent chance if they play their cards right.

Go Town!
I said I'd be supporting the underdogs...
If a certain scum member doesn't fumble their fake claim I absolutely don't see town ever voting them out at this rate lol
 
This will be a really fun post to ponder when Meatwad flips scum. A bit of a mindfuck, ya know? I might have to pop Kalor back into my town list.....maybe.
Nah, it's a last ditch effort to protect Kalor I think.

Gonna be wild if my offhand comment to Fanto about the last scum on the Fran, Meatwad, ??? team is actually right, lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Maximum WIFOM on his way out, yeah I think I did something similar in Conspiracy lol.

Still lunch Kalor tomorrow please, even when you remove Meatwad from the equation he has been pretty scummy in his own right.

Let's see, still hoping I was right and Fando is with them too, otherwise I'm just not sure who else I would go for, just proceed through the PoE and hope Town doesnt run out of time.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Nah, it's a last ditch effort to protect Kalor I think.

Gonna be wild if my offhand comment to Fanto about the last scum on the Fran, Meatwad, ??? team is actually right, lol.
I would go bananas this next day pondering...

I am glad I didn't spoil myself. This shit is getting good.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Nah, it's a last ditch effort to protect Kalor I think.

Gonna be wild if my offhand comment to Fanto about the last scum on the Fran, Meatwad, ??? team is actually right, lol.
It could be Fran still, I'll do some rereading tonight and see what I can come up with.
 
It could be Fran still, I'll do some rereading tonight and see what I can come up with.
I think Fran's commuter claim is fake. But I also want him to reveal the flavor name for it because I can't see a commuter role working with a Death Stranding flavor. Was disappointed nobody asked.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Maximum WIFOM on his way out, yeah I think I did something similar in Conspiracy lol.

Still lunch Kalor tomorrow please, even when you remove Meatwad from the equation he has been pretty scummy in his own right.

Let's see, still hoping I was right and Fando is with them too, otherwise I'm just not sure who else I would go for, just proceed through the PoE and hope Town doesnt run out of time.
Were you scum that game, I take it? And did it work at all, or at least cause some chaos?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Were you scum that game, I take it? And did it work at all, or at least cause some chaos?
The only time I was ever voted out was because I was Scum and had wreaked havoc on the game for the last 2 phases lol.

It didnt really, I put out a bunch of WIFOM about Vere but then my partners killed him that night anyways lol.
 
Meatwad has GOT to be scum, right? RIGHT!? I had my 3 picks as Kalor, Meatwad, Monkey, without knowing who of the 3 was most likely to be scum. But it is Meatwad. It has to be. This claim combined with mimicking the exact read from Kalor earlier...

Also, has anyone in spec thread accidentally posted in mafia game before? I have both opened, and I am paranoid I'm going to do that on accident.

*Whistles*
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Did no one in this game read LiS!?

First people are throwing shade at a normal Hider claim, and now we find out Scun could claim Miller and didn't do it right away?

People, please read LiS Mafia, it wasnt that long of a thread lol.
 
To be fair I'm not familar with the Miller role and can't imagine why it would ever be used. Seems it's only purpose is to trick town
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
To be fair I'm not familar with the Miller role and can't imagine why it would ever be used. Seems it's only purpose is to trick town
It essentially is a red herring of a role to throw Town off. It is always a town role though on the flip side.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I really hope none of them are planning on using that. I don't think I've ever seen a Miller claim save someone whether it's true or not if it wasn't claimed immediately on Day 1.
They have more fake claims than members, so I suspect it won’t be used.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I still think the easiest answer is just Kalor and Fandorin. Fran is still a huge possibility, he voted Kalor today instead of Meatwad, which I could see as either a bus vote or setting up that future mislunch to go with the general read of Kalor/Meatwad being partners. I still wouldn't go for him before either Kalor or Fandorin though.

I'll click around some of the spoiler tags in here now, I think I'm done trying to solve now. if I'm wrong on anyone else I'll be impressed at how well they fooled me, that's for sure.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hey Fanto :)

I laughed when I saw you getting hit with that respect N2 NK. That’s the best you aim for as a townie.
Even though I was slightly salty because I would have been able to play all weekend, it did feel good to eat that NK with essentially a Vanilla role just for being too Townie lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm guessing that Gorlak will be the NK tonight, easily the most Town read person. There's a chance they go for Fat4All due to all the vague role-claiming he was doing yesterday as well though. One of those two would be my best guesses.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think I could had lunched kalor or meatwad on D1 but I wanted to YOLO the Fran lunch :p
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I forgot gorlak and kopite say they are hand-printed

Probably a scum deceptive power if they can both do an action and kill the same night

But that's kinda lame
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
1. Sorry, Maol. You were a calculation and you were amazing and I felt terrible about it!
2. I had to find a way to make sure I wasn't voted out or NKed or blocked. I've never gambited before. It was intense! But really fun? Like legit the most fun I've ever had in a game. I felt no pressure for once.

Spoilers about what I did with my power:
Since I got a townie killed, I tried to wipe the scum team with my powers, but I don't know if I was right.
 
1. Sorry, Maol. You were a calculation and you were amazing and I felt terrible about it!
2. I had to find a way to make sure I wasn't voted out or NKed or blocked. I've never gambited before. It was intense! But really fun? Like legit the most fun I've ever had in a game. I felt no pressure for once.

Spoilers about what I did with my power:
Since I got a townie killed, I tried to wipe the scum team with my powers, but I don't know if I was right.
You hit town every time :P
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Ah good, thank you Monkey for going through and finding those connections between Kalor and Meatwad! Yep, those two are likely Scum together, vote one of them today please. But who is with them? Is it Fat4All or Fandorin? Side chance of Zeke or Kopite?

I feel like Town can pull this off if they don't get sidetracked with role claims and stuff, just keep looking at reactions, reads, and votes.

In other words, don't Maple Street it...
This was legit scum hunting and I was really puzzled that no one even seemed to read those.
 
1. Sorry, Maol. You were a calculation and you were amazing and I felt terrible about it!
2. I had to find a way to make sure I wasn't voted out or NKed or blocked. I've never gambited before. It was intense! But really fun? Like legit the most fun I've ever had in a game. I felt no pressure for once.

Spoilers about what I did with my power:
Since I got a townie killed, I tried to wipe the scum team with my powers, but I don't know if I was right.
You're fine, it was a good play. Though I will say I typically leave neutrals alone when town unless it's a Serial Killer. At worst they're a distraction typically and I'd rather scum hunt. (I will push them to a lunch if town is stonewalled tho)

Gambits are awesome to try and pull off. One of the reasons I prefer playing non town is because non town roles naturally develop themselves to eventual gambit play.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Yeah Monkey was at the top of our list since the game began. She lucked out that we feared she had protection N2 so we didn't try it
oh man I was trying so hard to make y'all NOT kill me!

So, now that I'm in front of a computer....While I wish more people used their votes liberally, it's tough to do so in this community. Players here tie sooo much meaning behind your votes, even when nodding along their approval that votes need to be used more often. I've had 2 games in a row now where I've tossed votes out just to shake things up, and both times (much less so this time) I was jumped on for it. The last Heroes and Villains game, I put one down on someone to see how they would react, and it jumped me from 0 attention to the top of lunch lists for a day or two. And that vote? It made the person I voted for get realdefensive, which told me what I wanted to know. And they ended up being scum. So, I dunno. This place is still adapting to the idea of using votes liberally. I think most are in agreement that players shouldn't wait until EoD to put a vote down, and yet there are players that can't get out of the mindset that where votes are placed is the only way to find scum. At least, that's what it feels like.

I agree with this. I think we also fix on people who talk a lot just because they talk a lot (caveat: I also do this.)

I still don't see what makes a normal Hider so controversial? I know I definitely put some uncommon roles in LiS but I thought that was more of a standard one lol.

Oh well, if Meatwad is Town he definitely didnt play it as one would expect, but lots of people have played roles in ways not really considered the "best way" so meh.

If hes Scum then yeah hes just lying about it and maybe made some messy posts about how it worked and who he targeted.

Regular hiders are pretty uncommon. Weak hider is more standard.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, I suppose we'll see how much quieter the game gets now without me or Monkey in there lol.

@Natiko could I ask when you want to start sharing full spoilers? No worries if you don't want to yet, I'm just done trying to solve I think.

My final reads are the same as I said before, Kalor/Fandorin/Fran. Side chance of like Kopite maybe I guess?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I’m willing to fully spoil alignments, but not design yet since there’s still some unrevealed stuff. If people want it in the open let me know, otherwise I’ll privately tell those that ask.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I’m willing to fully spoil alignments, but not design yet since there’s still some unrevealed stuff. If people want it in the open let me know, otherwise I’ll privately tell those that ask.
PM me the alignments please. :)
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If you don’t want to be spoiled bail out now - after this post alignment discussion probably won’t be hidden anymore.





Scum team:
Fandorin and Malus
 
If you don’t want to be spoiled bail out now - after this post alignment discussion probably won’t be hidden anymore.





Scum team:
Fandorin and Malus
Malus I would have never have gotten while I was alive.

Fando is playing a real good scum game though. I wouldn't get to him as a lunch candidate till after Fran and Kalor.

They have a great chance of winning.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Now the scum team is out it can now be pointed out that despite everything 4/5 of Kalor's top scum were non town

It was great when people were giving him shit for it
Had Kalor targeted differently last night it could’ve swung this game hard in favor of town. Now he may not get the chance.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
How many mislunches left?

If it's only 2 probably rip

If it's a little more maybe town will get it when the paranoia gets to work
 
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