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Town needs a good scum hunter to cast some nets for scum to tangle themselves in. If I was still in the game, I'd be looking for alternatives outside of Fran and Kalor just in case and set up some traps now that the more inactive players are becoming larger factors.

If both Fando and Malus get a bit too eager on either Fran or Kalor here for instance, my internal alarm bells would start going off.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
How many mislunches left?

If it's only 2 probably rip

If it's a little more maybe town will get it when the paranoia gets to work
Can’t say for certain yet.

I never would have gotten 1 of those on the list. The other i had a gut on, but nothing substantial at all.

Nat, mind saying
what Zeke sent last night?

Also, in regards to Monkey:
I'm gonna run out of shoes at this pace with these games...
I know who you are, and I know who you are aligned with. You have two choices.

Join me or I let town in on your secret. The choice is yours.

In your first post of the day mention the color purple, to join me. Mention yellow if you don’t want to join me. If you do the former, we can work together to win. Tell any of your potential partners to mention purple too, so I don’t push a lynch onto them. Choosing the latter does not end well for you.

Very entertaining, but it didn’t work.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
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Goddammit, I was convinced Kalor was scum.

:angry:

Town should leave Fran alone. After Meatwad's flip he should be essentially confirmed. I hope town decides I was just lying and ignores Kalor. He seems to have a little new fire today.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Goddammit, I was convinced Kalor was scum.

:angry:

Town should leave Fran alone. After Meatwad's flip he should be essentially confirmed. I hope town decides I was just lying and ignores Kalor. He seems to have a little new fire today.
I was so hoping that we finally got a correct read on him, but nope lol. I still believe in those connections though, they were real!

I just hope there's someone left to put pressure on Fandorin...

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Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
I have faith in them turning around on Kalor. His very EoD yesterday came off pretty damn towny. If he keeps those kind of posts up, he can get people off of him, I think.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yeah Kalor is hard to lunch

Only time I recall him being mislunched was Brexit 2 and that was because he slipped and everyone thought "town kalor never slips"
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yeah Kalor is hard to lunch

Only time I recall him being mislunched was Brexit 2 and that was because he slipped and everyone thought "town kalor never slips"
More like, he was forced into claim, he was a "backfire override"

*before fantomas points my mistake
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah Kalor is hard to lunch

Only time I recall him being mislunched was Brexit 2 and that was because he slipped and everyone thought "town kalor never slips"
More like, he was forced into claim, he was a "backfire override"

*before fantomas points my mistake
Oh wow, I totally forgot about that actually lol I was too busy being salty about Faddy and Sophia MURDERING ME IN COLD BLOOD ON N1.

But yeah, that was a hella cool role, where he was a Day Vig that could only shoot Scum, if he shot Town then he would die instead. Kalor shot Town and died instead. RIP.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Malus never really felt any pressure so far, did he? His ISO just reads so carefree, and by that I mean it seems Townie as Fuck. He went completely under my radar this time, I usually try so hard to keep a close eye on him but I was distracted by the shiny Kalor read lol.

Malus said:
Fandorin has given some good insight so far. I don't agree with everything he's said, but I think his effort to solve is genuine.
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Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Malus never really felt any pressure so far, did he? His ISO just reads so carefree, and by that I mean it seems Townie as Fuck. He went completely under my radar this time, I usually try so hard to keep a close eye on him but I was distracted by the shiny Kalor read lol.

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Malus has benefit of being very low post without folks pushing for activity.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Malus said:
I don't think I actually expressed it in the thread, but he definitely wasn't in my top two scum anymore after that.
Gorlak said:
Claiming things you haven't actually posted... mh, that's a bit off.
The good old retroactive read, a classic Scum maneuver.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fandorin said:
I'm definitely not confirmed due my push on Meat, but I really thought that I wouldn't be accused of a 3-day bus streak on Meat like this. You're saying all my other reads were fake and I only voted for my partner since D1? Wouldn't it be the opposite? There were other wagons to hide in after all.
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Wait, I'm confused, what does the role changing have to do with Malus's supposed Cop check?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh wait, is he saying he got Monkey's role, making him Neutral, and that Malus said that he got "Not Evil" on him?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh wait, is he saying he got Monkey's role, making him Neutral, and that Malus said that he got "Not Evil" on him?
No. He was a passive self motion detector. He was informed only one action targeted him last night, and at the same time he had his role updated by Monkey. Therefore how could he have also been checked by Malus.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
gottem indeed
this was me RL, reading that
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Like, there are problems with malus's claim altogether (targets, the Fran thing, unlimited shot) but this is a nail in the coffin.

Should be, at least.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I don't think they will, dog will set them straight when he comes back and explains his power and results
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Town in here saying "I dunno, malus seems legit" is killing me.

malus's actual actions don't match up with his fake checks. ALSO FATDOG ONLY SAW ONE ACTION. That's secondary but it proves all the sketchiness of the first!!
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
I get that not everyone knows how action order works. That's frustrating but understandable. But we as a community need to weigh human actions, analysis, and motivation more. That's something we need to work on.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
For the record ALL the role change stuff goes last. The reason Kalor couldn't swipe Kojima's role is because I made it invulnerable to the steal since it would break the wincon and make it impossible to proceed. The role wouldn't exit, but it could never win. It has nothing to do with action order.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I admire Fran for trying to put this all together here, he knows something is fucky with Malus's claim, and he understand's why Fat's claim counters it, he's just confused because, well, Death Stranding Mafia lol.
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
For the record ALL the role change stuff goes last. The reason Kalor couldn't swipe Kojima's role is because I made it invulnerable to the steal since it would break the wincon and make it impossible to proceed. The role wouldn't exit, but it could never win. It has nothing to do with action order.
I am truly amazed he tried to steal my role anyway. I tried so hard to make my fake claim sound useless as could be.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I am not a fan of the "why did you move early if you are x-shot" line of interrogation

Most people will use their power as soon as they can so it means nothing alignment-wise
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I am not a fan of the "why did you move early if you are x-shot" line of interrogation

Most people will use their power as soon as they can so it means nothing alignment-wise
I'll agree with this as well, even if the person being questioned this time is in fact lying lol
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
When I say that Fandorin has a veneer of towniness when he's Scum, those last posts from him are a perfect example. Theres nothing really scummy about them on the surface, but they just feel fake to me on a gut level, like he's not asking bad questions but it feels like he's only asking them to seem Townie to others.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
If Town really just glosses over that order of operations list and goes "Yup, motion detector wouldn't have seen a cop check" I'm going to lose my mind. When has a motion detector EVER worked that way?!
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
If Town really just glosses over that order of operations list and goes "Yup, motion detector wouldn't have seen a cop check" I'm going to lose my mind. When has a motion detector EVER worked that way?!
If town glosses over this IN GENERAL because of an incorrect assumption, I'll lose my mind. Assuming things like that is my biggest pet peeve. But in this case? THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE DETECT IS TO SEE MOVEMENT.
 

Vincent Alexander

My best friend is a monkey
Discussing how Nat would do this is moot of course, but occam's razor tells me exatcly this. Considering that Monkey changed you before malus checked would mean that you were actually 2 roles during the same night phase, which is something I've never heard of and sounds insane to balance.

The alternative to that is that malus is lying and didn't check you at all.
Niiiiiice.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Yeah, that's a weird one as she isn't under pressure or in a no win scenario.
She’s under a ton of pressure, it doesn’t look like that with votes, but people don’t vote. People’s current started direction is important.

There’s fairly high willingness to vote kits and quite lowish to vote mal
 
She’s under a ton of pressure, it doesn’t look like that with votes, but people don’t vote. People’s current started direction is important.

There’s fairly high willingness to vote kits and quite lowish to vote mal

Mmm, maybe. I feel like if people were that sure they wanted to vote her she would have something on her. As it is, it's tough but I think she could turn if around if she hangs in there
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
She’s under a ton of pressure, it doesn’t look like that with votes, but people don’t vote. People’s current started direction is important.

There’s fairly high willingness to vote kits and quite lowish to vote mal
Which is dumb, but just be proactive and try to solve. Even if they vote you out, you contributed to solving. That's your wincon.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Gorlak said:
I think it solidifies my townread on Fandorin.
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If only I had been there on D3 to tell everyone he was actually Scum...

Town can still get this though, they just need to reevaluate after each flip, it's all good. They'll find Fando eventually, he won't get away with this! He can't!

He totally will...
 

heymonkey

Known Roblox Expert
Staff member
Self-votes can often be town and out of frustration but I feel like you should recognize the urge and do something else. Be productive with the frustration.

Also they're asking about Fat and malus claiming and motivation as scum and these are good questions. But also what motivation does malus have to claim as town there? Fat's is clear - but what about malus? Why does a town cop with info that really just confirms a commuter (which no one has noticed, I guess) claim? Why not just townread the commuter?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Fando really is just gunna bus the shit out of Malus huh? Like, I get it, but I dont think its necessary yet, Town was already convincing themselves of the opposite, why put the right idea in their heads?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh nvm, missed that part at the end of that post where he says it makes him feel better about Malus, I thought he was just shining a light on more connections haha
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Oh nvm, missed that part at the end of that post where he says it makes him feel better about Malus, I thought he was just shining a light on more connections haha
He’s just carving an escape route if he needs to bus. Especially important when town is being town.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
He claimed as a cop, but he cant detect neutrals because he got a green check on you, so therefore Kits is Scum, duh!

I dont know, there are a lot of weird things going on with the claims that are out, and a lot of behavior that is worth scrutinizing, Malus is just kind if getting away with it for now, and Fando will convince everyone he's so good that he only votes for Scum, no way would he use throwaway votes to bus his teammates starting on D1!
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Can someone please explain why no one is looking at malus, whose claim and actions don't add up? I'm dying.

Fando, I see why he's skating through, but I don't understand why malus is just chilling here.
He isn’t ’’’’’’’’’’’scummy’’’’’’’’’’’
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Actual actions mean very little. That’s why you should never give up as scum and not be afraid of outlandish play.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum will probably kill Gorlak now, right? I don't really see him getting voted out at this stage. Other than him and probably Fran, I'd say the rest of Town could still easily get voted out before LyLo tbh.

What is the numbers game right now?

We've got 8 players alive, assume Scum gets the kill tonight, we go to 7 players left on D5, with 5 Town and 2 Scum left.

So, mislunch on D5 and another Townie nightkilled = LyLo on D6 at the earliest.
 
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