Scum Thread Phantom Troupe

[B-dubs]

OK, so all I've got left until the start of the day tomorrow is the switch.

 

[Natiko]

We can't let the Royal stuff or the green checks spook us. We can remove Saw from the board tonight if we want, but Royal is gifted. We leave him alone. We want as many bombs out there as we can for when kyaa blows up. It's possible we won't even need kyaa to last past like D3 or D4 and be in decent shape when he goes boom.

 

[B-dubs]

If Kyaa can take down at least two different people we'll be a good spot, imo

 

[Natiko]

If Kyaa can take down at least two different people we'll be a good spot, imo

Yeah, I'm hoping he can get three but if things seem iffy I wouldn't hesitate in having kyaa go boom D3. Salva leads to us taking someone with us. At least two people will probably die from this ITA, maybe three. There's another ITA phase as well. It's very volatile but we have a chance here.

 

[B-dubs]

Yeah, I'm hoping he can get three but if things seem iffy I wouldn't hesitate in having kyaa go boom D3. Salva leads to us taking someone with us. At least two people will probably die from this ITA, maybe three. There's another ITA phase as well. It's very volatile but we have a chance here.

If things go our way, we'll pocket Monkey for that ITA phase and it might just work in our favor.

 

[Natiko]

Thankfully her role isn't a 1:1 mirror of mine either which should help curb some of the speculation about me being scum..hopefully.

 

[B-dubs]

Thankfully her role isn't a 1:1 mirror of mine either which should help curb some of the speculation about me being scum..hopefully.

Well, you'll have a golden opportunity to get her on our side and convince her starting tonight.

 

[SalvaPot]

Sure, go for it.

Also Salva, you're playing with fire here lol

But this is how I play, when I flip scum you should be 100% on the clear.

 

[Natiko]

But this is how I play, when I flip scum you should be 100% on the clear.

Oh I more just meant in the event it gets you shot with an ITA lol

 

[SalvaPot]

Oh I more just meant in the event it gets you shot with an ITA lol

No one is going to dare shoot me, I'm too wild. I'm more scared of people shooting blarg or bdubs or even kyaa.

And if they do shoot me, you get an extra kill!

Masterful play on that claim btw, Natiko, I take back what I said about having my doubts.

 

[B-dubs]

I should be protected from Monkey at the very least. Plus I like the odds of surviving a random shot.

 

[SalvaPot]

So, @Franconp can you activate the secret forum now or do you have to wait until the night?

As I read it, if @B-dubs gets it now he can mark now, today, two players and they get added to the chat instantly (And B-dubs should make a second account named Tresh2: The Treshening), and this chat will exist for the rest of this day and night 2.

Correct?

 

[Franconp]

So, @Franconp can you activate the secret forum now or do you have to wait until the night?

Night.

 

[SalvaPot]

Night.

Coo coo cool.

 

[B-dubs]

Night.

So I won't have the chat until the night phase?

 

[Franconp]

So I won't have the chat until the night phase?

Yes.

 

[Natiko]

You’re killing me with these misses Fran. Throw us a bone they got like eight cops.

 

[B-dubs]

Ugh, thought we could use it today.

 

[SalvaPot]

Ugh, thought we could use it today.

Same =(, I wanted to influence Monkey's ITA while it was early.

 

[SalvaPot]

I swear to god I'm playing as scummy as possible and somehow that is making me seem townier. I have reached Blarg status.

 

[Franconp]

You’re killing me with these misses Fran. Throw us a bone they got like eight cops.

 

[SalvaPot]

I was going to make a huge answer to malus about how Natiko and monkey could be scum, but it was so convincing that for a second I forgot Natiko is my teammate, and it would make monkey even more paranoid about Natiko when right now we have her exactly where we want her.

Here it is, for the people that are reading this after game ends:

This is why it is 99% impossible for you and Natiko to be Scum mates. There is no way Fran allows one Scum role to have two day shots for free.

However I'm not sure I want to clear Natiko just yet.


What makes me a bit suspicious of this role is that you get a 100% shot as well. A gunsmith is usually town for the reason you stated, but a gunsmith that keeps one gun for themselves?

Well, Monkey already pointed out a few ways it could work. Like a copy ability. Or an ability that can borrow abilities, like this guy has:

In the show he can borrow other peoples ability if they owe him a "favor", uses them, and then give them back.

But if monkey is claiming there is a modifier, as in, a difference between both ITA makers, then either that means they are really unrelated or there is actual conspiracy between this two here.

 

[SalvaPot]

There was more to it but kinda lost the rest xD, I was full conspiracy mode without actually giving out the real answer.

 

[Kyanrute]

We can't let the Royal stuff or the green checks spook us. We can remove Saw from the board tonight if we want, but Royal is gifted. We leave him alone. We want as many bombs out there as we can for when kyaa blows up. It's possible we won't even need kyaa to last past like D3 or D4 and be in decent shape when he goes boom.

In before Muffin says he reversed me. Royal hasn't yet said anything about the message he should have received.

 

[Natiko]

In before Muffin says he reversed me. Royal hasn't yet said anything about the message he should have received.

Muffin supposedly doesn't even get to target his ability. It just happens. He wouldn't even be able to use it to out anyone.

 

[Kyanrute]

Ah. So it is just 1/17 for a missing bomb then.

 

[Kyanrute]

donna ita blarg

man, don't die early this game

 

[Blargonaut]

I'm invulnerable to all Daytime Powers rn (my self-vote Power)

 

[Kyanrute]

I meant that your Donna ITA post was amazing and I will be sad if you die early this game because then I won't get to read more of your posts :P

it is even better with the immunity since you can just do whatever you want, nobody can retaliate

 

[B-dubs]

Sounds like we've got a pair of lovers?

 

[Kyanrute]

Donna + A? Yeah, could be something like that. X townie has a role that tells A that Donna is town. Upside is town confirmed Donna, downside is that A loses their role or even dies when Donna dies.

 

[Kyanrute]

oh yeah that whole gungi thing

should pick something lol

 

[SalvaPot]

We should consider the real posibility that muffin may have reversed the bomb? If it was blocked I'll guess there would be a message given back.

 

[Kyanrute]

It could also be that he just is holding the info because of the supposed ambiguity of the message.

The chance of Muffin hitting me is 1/11 or 1/10 currently, depending if Sticky is in.

 

[Kyanrute]

Or you know, I got blocked or something. Regardless, no message equals no bomb.

Block is the more dangerous one. That has a chance of killing me if a bomb shows up on D3, is made public, then is possibly treated as a bomb, town gets polled for previous bombs, no bomb appears, hi i blocked kyaaa n1 might that have someth- BOOM :D

 

[SalvaPot]

I want to point out that we can't really rely on any green check thanks to muffin's role in the thread, but I kinda want the shots to go by first.

 

[Kyanrute]

Only Stu's Vere check is suspect I think. Donna got declared as a townie on N0 and the same happened to Royal on D1.

 

[B-dubs]

@Natiko who are you thinking about shooting?

 

[Kyanrute]

pls be on stu pls be on stu

 

[B-dubs]

If I make it through, I am totally copying this power.

 

[Kyanrute]

good role kalor, bomb gang represent

 

[SalvaPot]

I'm unvoting now, people will see the sticky, chaos will reign?

If I don't unvote it would look madly suspicious.

 

[B-dubs]

omg, votes on Stu are locked. I'm crying!

 

[B-dubs]

OK, so Stu is probably going down too. That means we'll have two more kills to use this phase.

 

[Kyanrute]

1/10 chance for a missing bomb.

 

[Natiko]

If this really goes down this way... that is some great selection on our part stickying Stu lol PLEASE BE ON HIM. Also, I'm probably shooting Zipped. Part of me wants to yolo shoot Blarg since it'll cause more chaos and be a GAMBIT WITHIN A GAMBIT, but probably not worth it even if it would be funny.

 

[B-dubs]

If this really goes down this way... that is some great selection on our part stickying Stu lol PLEASE BE ON HIM. Also, I'm probably shooting Zipped. Part of me wants to yolo shoot Blarg since it'll cause more chaos and be a GAMBIT WITHIN A GAMBIT, but probably not worth it even if it would be funny.

If Zipped goes down, who is the next most likely target for town?

 

[Blargonaut]

quick question Fran!

We actually didn't really talk about this scenario / I didn't include it in my Role-creation sort-of, but:

When I made my Role, the description I made for my SELF-VOTE = DAYTIME INVULN bit is:

During the Day, if I self-vote against myself, I become immune to all Daytime Powers for the rest of that Day; however, I am unable to unvote from myself / vote against anybody else for the rest of that Day. Although, any Daytime Powers that were used on me before I self-voted, are not nullified/dispelled when I self-vote (they will still remain in effect on me). But I will become immune to any further Daytime Powers that Day. Also: after any Day that I've self-voted, I lose the ability to use my STICKY Power that Night.

I just want to clarify; if I actually try to UNVOTE myself, being "unable to unvote from myself" means that the UNVOTE will fail BUT my Daytime Invulnerability will NOT be removed due to the attempt, because it failed, yeah?

And if I do an UNVOTE right now, what (if any) public mod-message would be posted in the game-thread? Would it be similar to what you just posted when Salva tried to Unvote stu?

 

[Franconp]

I just want to clarify; if I actually try to UNVOTE myself, being "unable to unvote from myself" means that the UNVOTE will fail BUT my Daytime Invulnerability will NOT be removed due to the attempt, because it failed, yeah?

Yes.

And if I do an UNVOTE right now, what (if any) public mod-message would be posted in the game-thread? Would it be similar to what you just posted when Salva tried to Unvote stu?

Yes.

 

[Blargonaut]

Natiko, I give you explicit permission to shoot me but you really shouldn't

But you totally should because we need to please the fans

But you really shouldn't if you want us to win faster

But you should for the fans

 

[Blargonaut]

perfect

TY Mr. Narf

 

[Blargonaut]

Natiko, shoot me

What use is a Faction Win without STYLE

 

[Blargonaut]

DON'T SHOOT ME NATIKO THINK OF THE TEAM BUT DO IT THOUGH

 

[Blargonaut]

IT WOULD BE JUSTIFIED AND TOWNIE POINTS FOR YOU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN A TOTAL HEEL THUS FAR

DO IT BUT YOU SHOULDN'T

DON'T NOT DO IT NATIKO

 

[Kyanrute]

Natiko this is the voice of sanity.

Do not shoot Blarg.

That is stupid.

 

[B-dubs]

Do it

 

[SalvaPot]

What if Verelious is taking too long to shot Blarg because Fran is pulling up Blarg's role for his death post.

 

[B-dubs]

What if Verelious is taking too long to shot Blarg because Fran is pulling up Blarg's role for his death post.

That would be some shit

 

[SalvaPot]

If you want pure insanity, shoot monkey, now that would make people go. WAIT WHAT.

 

[Kyanrute]

If you can justify a malus shot, Zipped is now a reasonably likely lynch candidate for the day.

 

[Natiko]

I think I’ll shoot Malus but I really want to shoot Blarg for the maximum lols

 

[B-dubs]

I think I’ll shoot Malus but I really want to shoot Blarg for the maximum lols

I think we can make a malus shot work, dunno if it would clear zipped or not tho

 

[SalvaPot]

I think I’ll shoot Malus but I really want to shoot Blarg for the maximum lols

But if you kill blarg, would the sticky remain?

 

[Kyanrute]

I veto operation Lamethrower just like I vetoed operation Hydro Canon.

Diplomatic overrides are cheating btw.

 

[Blargonaut]

I'm invincible to all Day-kills rn, it's impossible for him to kill me

So Nat shooting me would be pure wrestling

 

[Kyanrute]

It would be wasting a kill, something that reminds me of some other operation.

And that operation, eventually, ended up in a failure.

 

[Blargonaut]

sorry, wrasslin'

 

[Natiko]

It would be wasting a kill, something that reminds me of some other operation.

And that operation, eventually, ended up in a failure.

WE COULD RIGHT THE WRONGS OF THE PAST KYAA. WE COULD EXECUTE THE MASTER PLAN

 

[B-dubs]

Execute Order 66

 

[Blargonaut]

It would be wasting a kill, something that reminds me of some other operation.

And that operation, eventually, ended up in a failure.

c'mon

Nat shoots me; I flip over and over from his throw but land on my feet

Dramatic half-turn back towards him still on the ropes

I unvote but NO-- I'm locked too!?

"whaaaaat"

 

[Blargonaut]

Nat, for real: Kyan is 100% correct you absolutely should not shoot me for the sake of the scum Faction.

but

 

[Kyanrute]

nin is reading this chat too

all these spies

 

[Natiko]

Logic won out. Win or lose though we’ll always wonder what could have been.

 

[Blargonaut]

Fran, just to make absolutely sure, if Nat decides to pull this stunt and since I'm self-voting rn and according to what my Role stipulates in its details; I WOULD survive Natiko shooting me, right?

 

[Blargonaut]

womp womp

History won't remember us ever again

 

[Franconp]

Fran, just to make absolutely sure, if Nat decides to pull this stunt and since I'm self-voting rn and according to what my Role stipulates in its details; I WOULD survive Natiko shooting me, right?

Too late now, but yes.

 

[Natiko]

If malus has some role that reveals the alignment and name of someone that shoots him then whomp whomp. Should’ve shot Blarg. Always trust your gut.

 

[Blargonaut]

oh

my

god

 

[Natiko]

Oh he’s just salty because he’a Less useful without the BP. Oh well.

 

[B-dubs]

A VEST?! LOL

 

[Kyanrute]

whew, stu is ded

something good at least

 

[B-dubs]

OK, so who do I use the day kill on?

 

[SalvaPot]

I think it was a good shot, town will probably just lunch malus now, blarg keeps up his shenanigans.

 

[Natiko]

OK, so who do I use the day kill on?

Can you pick it up now or do you have to wait?

 

[B-dubs]

or should I save it so monkey doesn't get suspicious during the night phase

 

[B-dubs]

Can you pick it up now or do you have to wait?

Not sure, we'd have to ask @Franconp

 

[Natiko]

Also if I were to guess I expect Monkey is invincible until activating the ITA phase or something with a requirement to activate it by X day.

 

[Blargonaut]

heads-up Fran entirely sry to bother u again; I unvoted myself on the last post, end of Page 45 50ppp and need my environmental FX to go off, TY

 

[Blargonaut]

bahahaha

PYROTECH PYROTECH PYROTECH

TY <3

 

[Natiko]

So @B-dubs

You took and used Geno’s already. Are you now holding Kalor and Stu’s? Ditching Sorian and the switch?

 

[B-dubs]

So @B-dubs

You took and used Geno’s already. Are you now holding Kalor and Stu’s? Ditching Sorian and the switch?

I'm just holding the switch at the moment

 

[Kyanrute]

Kalor bomb needs a vote on the target. Unless in a large crowd, the connection between a vote and the voter being a being of pure evil will be apparent. I could be used for that - I keep a vote on X until the bomb goes of and then BOOM :D

but I don't think I survive ITA madness II: *Insert joke here*

 

[SalvaPot]

Kalor bomb needs a vote on the target. Unless in a large crowd, the connection between a vote and the voter being a being of pure evil will be apparent. I could be used for that - I keep a vote on X until the bomb goes of and then BOOM :D

but I don't think I survive ITA madness II: *Insert joke here*

Nah I can do it, remember my role is made with he intention of dying. It would make a great combo.

 

[B-dubs]

I'm thinking it would be best to take this bomber role and the day kill off of Stu. We can use that to kill two more people in the next phase of the game, beyond that we'll have a chance to pocket monkey during the night.

 

[Natiko]

Kalor bomb needs a vote on the target. Unless in a large crowd, the connection between a vote and the voter being a being of pure evil will be apparent. I could be used for that - I keep a vote on X until the bomb goes of and then BOOM :D

but I don't think I survive ITA madness II: *Insert joke here*

Does the unkillable work in the day phase?

 

[Kyanrute]

If we use the bomb, we taint role thief. There are cute plays

And Salva said what I think is the logical conclusion with Kalor's bomb.

HOLD THE PRESSES A DAY KILL TY STU

 

[B-dubs]

maybe we hold onto the bomb until we get rid of monkey. actually, if we can get her to activate her role in the next day phase we can then use the day kill to off her and have the bomb go off without worry

 

[B-dubs]

Wait, did stu get told he had a bomb?

 

[Natiko]

You could sit on the bomb until very close to end game. But honestly all we need is to get close then if I die you can steal my role, give two scum insta kills and hopefully end the game outright.

 

[SalvaPot]

Yeah taking the day kill should be a priority, its hidden so there is literally no risk on using it and you get a vest as a bonus. The bomb is fun but not as good as the daykill, if nothing better comes up we can use that.