Kyanrute
kyan-rute
In this case, the grand plan was for naught. Aww.
Game Thread Marvel Heroes Mafia - Half of You Will Enjoy This
- Thread starter Sorian
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In this case, the grand plan was for naught. Aww.
Verelios
Were-elios
I read the thread properly afterwards
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
Same
Confused by voting exactly cause skimmed it since I cant 100% commit to Mafia until later tonight, but uh, so that happened.
Whoever get items should confirm or not that items mention collectiong more. With seperate area and this happening day 1 we're in for some serious shit.
Whoever get items should confirm or not that items mention collectiong more. With seperate area and this happening day 1 we're in for some serious shit.
The best plans get messed up sometimes.
Always vote Geno man, unless it helps him or some thing
Don't mean to point to the obvious, but man do Rynam, Chicken, and Kyan look bad for the hard lurk with joining the game. Could be coincidence obviously, but I doubt that's the case for all of them. Rynam in particular for it being his first post of the day. He had nothing to post even after his justification, so it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt since that means he was blatantly lurking as opposed to having something to say and coincidentally appearing when the game commenced.
@Geno You're being surprisingly less vocal than I'm used to. Cold feet from the big game? Haven't seen as much as a fluffy observation from you which is a lot less than I'm used to seeing from you unless you're caught up in something irl.
This post rubs me the wrong way. Mostly basic recap with the rest being to insist on keeping his weird joke vote this far into the day. Then he disappears shortly after without anything else to add. Just something I'll take note of for now.
@Geno You're being surprisingly less vocal than I'm used to. Cold feet from the big game? Haven't seen as much as a fluffy observation from you which is a lot less than I'm used to seeing from you unless you're caught up in something irl.
Antagonism? What? Arguments aren't a one sided affair.
This post rubs me the wrong way. Mostly basic recap with the rest being to insist on keeping his weird joke vote this far into the day. Then he disappears shortly after without anything else to add. Just something I'll take note of for now.
The reward could be "you use your action 2 times in the night". Doesn't have to be items.
I had shit to do but now I'm posting a lot, are you behind?
CrimsonFist
Neutral Vanilla
Don't 100% get it, but Verelios publically screwed everyone over?
Going to say that scum would have done the towniest thing there, especially not knowing the reward, so doubt it was an intentional scum play.
Going to say that scum would have done the towniest thing there, especially not knowing the reward, so doubt it was an intentional scum play.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
that game was crazy!! minigames in my mafia? its more likely than you think...
Seriously, I like that mechanic and it was day 1 so we all had a chance to participate!
Seriously, I like that mechanic and it was day 1 so we all had a chance to participate!
Apollo
Apollo will wreck your goddamn face
Alas, my brilliant plan would have been for naught
From me skimming it seems like it's likely the damn items I been vocal about, but guess this does count as the powers beyond roles and what not.
No, I think it was written that the winner got a prize item.
Not its powers or anything, but why not tell us if it's item or not?
Events? Oh, so it's like Geno's game?! I thought this game is gonna be normal just with the ITA but randoms events are definitely cool, shame we can't all participate or at least spectate.
Says the guy, who ate our people :c
Any other thoughts about the game so far? Or are you preparing some sick master plan again?
By the way this chain of events is what I consider role fishing, it's basically trying to gather infos that may lead anti town to get any advantage over us or be the source of our dismiss:
I don't understand why empress was insisting so much, what purpose does this pushing serves and more importantly is it worth the risk of inadvertently exposing infos?
By the by, it seems that each time I point out role fishing in games, it's always anti town who tries to shut me off. So what are you Muffin?
Says the guy, who ate our people :c
Any other thoughts about the game so far? Or are you preparing some sick master plan again?
By the way this chain of events is what I consider role fishing, it's basically trying to gather infos that may lead anti town to get any advantage over us or be the source of our dismiss:
I don't understand why empress was insisting so much, what purpose does this pushing serves and more importantly is it worth the risk of inadvertently exposing infos?
By the by, it seems that each time I point out role fishing in games, it's always anti town who tries to shut me off. So what are you Muffin?
Fireblend
ABLF
Arguments aren't one-sided, but you always come across as being very obstinate with yours.
Too bad I missed the event. Gotta read what it was all about too, back later.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
no from what I understand Verelios had no idea who the three vote winner were going to vote. With the added provision that no talking outside of the event meant that even if they had an outside board there was no collusion. Just bad luck.
he did however give bladesymphony a bonus though.
none of the vote winners would have chosen themselves, because even if they would have won they would have lost, so Verelios had to bet that one of two best of voters would chose a different voter.
Verelios that vote makes no sense unless you wanted to ensure that a specific person got the benefit.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
said it way better than I did.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Does that match with the seemingly confused Vere?
idk If I'd quantify that as a lot (you've mostly just been asking questions about the event), but yes I was rereading specific posts before posting myself so I was pretty far behind. Just caught up with the event and punishment that came as a result.
Yup, my exact thoughts. For a day 1 event I simply can't see a scum player playing so haphazardly. Gives Vere some town cred in my eyes.
@Geno What reason do you have for suspecting Vere?
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
That's what I feel like could be happening here.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
That isn't exactly hard act to fake.
If someone barks at me in mafia, generally I bark back. I didn't come back at anyone with more than what they came at me with.
Oh Jesus this game has a lot going on
Plus points to splinter for not liking my softball questions, it is my favorite tool to do when busy though and we all know what a busy kawl means...
Anyone who tries to assert some type of control over ita usage or targets goes on my shit list by the way. Let chaos reign.
Plus points to splinter for not liking my softball questions, it is my favorite tool to do when busy though and we all know what a busy kawl means...
Anyone who tries to assert some type of control over ita usage or targets goes on my shit list by the way. Let chaos reign.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
well it benefits scum to be lurking day 1, Standard playbook is medium posting but constant thread watching. Helps with trains and swerves. So with any event it makes sense to just load it up.
But again no collusion, due to the event rules.
vote:verelios
It makes more sense to vote verelios and get them in here to discuss the whys of their play.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
@BladeSymphony why did you pick @Grizzly to lose?
The item I received was not much of a benefit.
My five votes were:
Grizzly
Xbro
empressdonna
Geno
Apollo
At random, but I am suspicious of Grizzly and empressdonna. Whether her softclaim was a joke or not, it is still something I think should be worth investigating. Grizzly for the vote drop after the JOINs.
My five votes were:
Grizzly
Xbro
empressdonna
Geno
Apollo
At random, but I am suspicious of Grizzly and empressdonna. Whether her softclaim was a joke or not, it is still something I think should be worth investigating. Grizzly for the vote drop after the JOINs.
A casual vote drop after a quick joining process would generally seem to ensure that no one is really paying attention, which aroused my suspicion.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Do note that I discussed Stuart quite a lot earlier today, so my vote didn't come exactly out of nowhere.
He wanted to penalize me out of nowhere, without ever interacting with me. That event could be death. We didn't know.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
So definitely an item and not an ability.
Tell me more about Grizzly. Why is the timing of the vote suspicious?
He wanted to penalize me out of nowhere, without ever interacting with me. That event could be death. We didn't know.
I think people are looking too hard into the "flying solo" bit. But I suspect Donna for other reasons.
We'll have to see his take on everything, but it came across to me as if he were just confused. Obviously something that could be faked, but that would be too blatantly of a terrible move for scum to intentionally pull imo. But we shall see once he arrives.
In other news, VOTE: Rynam
Apollo
Apollo will wreck your goddamn face
I told you to forget about that!
Verelios
Were-elios
It was a stupid mistake. I saw Sorian pinged me and thought I was missing the event, and when I got in saw that I was supposed to choose the same name that three people did.
I mistakenly thought it was referring to the part 1 blind votes, scrolled up to see who's participating, saw a spoiler for votes, saw Blade had 9, knew I didn't vote him so I chose him. I panicked, even though I wasn't sure if there was a time limit. But when I voted I scrolled up, was confused and then kind of mortified.
So, it was genuinely a fuck up. I didn't want a penalty.
Idk why I posted this twice.
Verelios
Were-elios
Wasn't really out of nowhere. I saw you panicking and after I got the rules figured you'd be a sure bet. Unfortunately I had already voted.
Have you ever seen a townie that wants to die from a random event? I don't think so.
Simply seemed like it was intentionally placed. I'm not really basing it off anything more. Now that I recall his spat with Stu, it does make it seem far less intentional.
Newbie effect. I somehow doubt it was done intentionally. Suspicion on newbies seems natural for long-term mafia communities. Same thing happened earlier with Ferg.
You could have very easily told him to vote for me not knowing what this event brought, as well.
I don't know if I just too sleepy right now or if I am just dumb, but I am ashamed too say that after reading the event description two times, I still don't understand how it works. Can someone please explain it explain to me in easier way? Like make it simpler?
I'm kinda annoyed because iI can't judge people behavior during the events if I don't even understand it...
Anyhow, calling it a night. Good night y'all.
I'm kinda annoyed because iI can't judge people behavior during the events if I don't even understand it...
Anyhow, calling it a night. Good night y'all.
Verelios
Were-elios
The opposite would be me and three other people dying, so...
Imo that would be better, there's bound to be a scum in 4 people.
Verelios
Were-elios
Okay, maybe? But I don't want to die to prove it, especially when I don't know if you're town.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I'm pretty sure I understood the rules.
The event rules say that the event couldn't be discussed outside the event thread during it. So I couldn't have told Verelios to vote for you even if we were both scum.
Verelios
Were-elios
I expected more and I'm honestly kind of disappointed I didn't get at least 5.
Seemed like a matching game.
Everyone votes for 5 people.
Top voted and lowest voted now need to match names, in this case, there were pairs of each since it was a tie.
If the match, they get a benefit, if they lose, penalty.
Then Verelios was introduced after a messed-up count (I think) and he chooses some, if none of the pairs matched names, his vote would be the only person to get a benefit.
I'm bad at explanations so I hope this helps somewhat.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
How did you pick your 5 names?
What I think is that you had a scumpal in those other 3 people.
Verelios
Were-elios
...First, that makes no sense. We all got penalized. We didn't even know what the penalty was going in. It makes a lot more sense to just choose you if I haf a scum pal on it.
Yeah but you yourself said you didn't understand the rules, that's the only reason you didn't choose me from the start.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Kyaaa's interpretation:
1) Open signup.
2) People who signed up give five blind votes. It is implied via the rules that receiving a lot of votes OR a small amount of votes is bad. It is unclear if everyone understood this.
3) From the blind votes, three groups are formed: the high, the middle and the low.
3.1) The high lose post rights and must vote for a person within the mini game via a blind vote.
3.2) The low must post a open vote for a person within the mini game.
3.3) The middle try to influence things but have no concrete power beyond their words.
4) Pairing votes are sought out - the open vote is compared to the blind votes.
4.1) Matching votes (open - blind) win and the person who was voted for loses.
4.2) Mismatching votes (open - blind) penalize the voters and the who was voted for wins.
4.1 and 4.2 are not mutually exclusive as we can see from the result.
Verelios
Were-elios
Yeah, and if you read my reasoning, I only chose Blade because he had 9 blind votes. I wouldn't have chosen him if I saw he was one of the three I had to match.
Would this event confirm that those penalized all have a role?
Whatever man, I'll keep an eye on you.
No, it's almost random who gets penalized and everyone got the same penalty.
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I'm going to assume that we all would receive that same penalty message even if some (or all) of us were ordinaries. (No, this is not me role claiming to any direction, just making an assumption).
Verelios
Were-elios
Man, whatever, keep doing your busy work.
What reasoning outside of me having a high tally and being a newbie would he choose me? I was probably voted up so high for the very same reason.
Apollo
Apollo will wreck your goddamn face
Did you also think death was a possibility from the event? I was having trouble following this discussion ‘till I saw that Geno was the one who brought up the penalty being modkill. In general it’s hard to follow since you say you didn’t quite understand.
Is Sorian evil enough to kill people through a random event on day 1?
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I mean, it's a 50 player game, so I can't say it wouldn't have been impossible.
Verelios
Were-elios
What?
Verelios
Were-elios
It was a small possibility, but I didn't really think so at the time. I'm not really sure now.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
None from Hecht either. But I think Rynam and NTC are more interesting, because they both popped up for the event vote, and then gave quite suspicious reasoning why they only appeared there and then.
nin1000
Chilean German Madman
we have players who
claim that they were stuck watching at a single post for 6 hours.
Lurked the thread joined the mini game in order to have a chance to win something just to dissapear afterwards again.
And think that Drake is a better Rapper than Busta.
Now i have seen all
claim that they were stuck watching at a single post for 6 hours.
Lurked the thread joined the mini game in order to have a chance to win something just to dissapear afterwards again.
And think that Drake is a better Rapper than Busta.
Now i have seen all
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
It's my playstyle, not alignment tied *shrug*.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
You voted for Blade on phase two because you thought that you had to match your vote with the blind votes of the phase one from the three people selected (or that is my interpretation of what you are saying). You specifically mention that you knew that you did not vote for Blade on P1, implying that you thus knew you had an increased chance of being right ("I did not vote for Blade, so it is more likely that the three others did."). Yet you also knew that you did not vote for nin nor did you vote for Grizzly - both whom shared Blade's amount of P1 blind votes. Going off from this logic, you had the same chance of being right with all of the three, not just with Blade. Yet you voted for Blade.
What's the point? If Vere has a scumpal in the 3 it could be you Grizzly or Blade. What I said can be copy pasted to both of you. I just focused on a single person.same , did not catch that
care to elaborate Geno
When does day end est? i want to male sure I can catch up and post reads...
Verelios
Were-elios
If I'm being honest, his name was at top. That was the extent of my deliberation.
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Curious that you did not choose to go with the "I miscounted the votes", as you did post before that you counted Blade's votes at nine instead of the eight that they were at.
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start
kyanrute (2 votes)
kyanrute - #365
apollo - #420
rynam (2 votes)
stuart444 - #464
terraforce - #647
blargonaut (2 votes)
luxcommander - #264
gorlak - #349
stuart444 (2 votes)
include - #295
grizzly - #519
verelios (2 votes)
geno - #563
zippedpinhead - #634
no lynch (1 votes)
faddy - #127 #384
heymonkey - #175 #338
ferg - #246
gorlak (1 votes)
heymonkey - #403
terraforce (1 votes)
faddy - #384
heymonkey (1 votes)
kawl - #219
apollo (1 votes)
natiko - #282
terraforce - #347 #647
extreme tactician (1 votes)
swamped - #386
splinter (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #241
heymonkey - #338 #403
melonrabbit (1 votes)
lone_prodigy - #465
kawl (1 votes)
zubz - #267
include (1 votes)
fireblend - #244
ferg (0 votes)
terraforce - #306 #347
lone_prodigy (0 votes)
grizzly - #370 #519
faddy (0 votes)
zubz - #139 #267
empressdonna (0 votes)
geno - #487 #563
Post Counts:
grizzly: 37 stuart444: 34 nin1000: 34 verelios: 34 terraforce: 30 melonrabbit: 28 faddy: 28 heymonkey: 28 geno: 27 kyanrute: 24 natiko: 24 coolestspot: 23 bladesymphony: 16 faircure: 14 sorian: 13 nomad sparkster: 11 empressdonna: 11 zubz: 11 crimsonfist: 11 apollo: 10 necktochicken: 10 zippedpinhead: 9 stanleypalmtree: 9 alexem: 9 ynnek7: 8 kawl: 8 dcpat: 7 include: 7 xbro: 7 ferg: 7 splinter: 7 gorlak: 6 muffin: 6 fireblend: 5 extreme tactician: 5 luxcommander: 4 hom3land: 4 swamped: 4 lone_prodigy: 3 oreomunsta: 3 rynam: 3 ezekelrage: 2 briefs_cat: 1 mazre: 1 sexy fish: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Day 1 Ends in:
Day Start
kyanrute (2 votes)
kyanrute - #365
apollo - #420
rynam (2 votes)
stuart444 - #464
terraforce - #647
blargonaut (2 votes)
luxcommander - #264
gorlak - #349
stuart444 (2 votes)
include - #295
grizzly - #519
verelios (2 votes)
geno - #563
zippedpinhead - #634
no lynch (1 votes)
ferg - #246
gorlak (1 votes)
heymonkey - #403
terraforce (1 votes)
faddy - #384
heymonkey (1 votes)
kawl - #219
apollo (1 votes)
natiko - #282
extreme tactician (1 votes)
swamped - #386
splinter (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #241
melonrabbit (1 votes)
lone_prodigy - #465
kawl (1 votes)
zubz - #267
include (1 votes)
fireblend - #244
ferg (0 votes)
lone_prodigy (0 votes)
faddy (0 votes)
empressdonna (0 votes)
Post Counts:
grizzly: 37 stuart444: 34 nin1000: 34 verelios: 34 terraforce: 30 melonrabbit: 28 faddy: 28 heymonkey: 28 geno: 27 kyanrute: 24 natiko: 24 coolestspot: 23 bladesymphony: 16 faircure: 14 sorian: 13 nomad sparkster: 11 empressdonna: 11 zubz: 11 crimsonfist: 11 apollo: 10 necktochicken: 10 zippedpinhead: 9 stanleypalmtree: 9 alexem: 9 ynnek7: 8 kawl: 8 dcpat: 7 include: 7 xbro: 7 ferg: 7 splinter: 7 gorlak: 6 muffin: 6 fireblend: 5 extreme tactician: 5 luxcommander: 4 hom3land: 4 swamped: 4 lone_prodigy: 3 oreomunsta: 3 rynam: 3 ezekelrage: 2 briefs_cat: 1 mazre: 1 sexy fish: 1
Click here to go to the Vote Tool!
Day 1 Ends in:
Verelios
Were-elios
And I obviously wasn't paying enough attention. As I said, I panicked.
I'm at work but it seems your argument is shifting a lot man, and just shifted halfway through your defense. I dunno, I side with Kyran on this on