Spectator Thread GoT and TMBG Spectator Thread
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cabot
Why.
GoG's not really thinking about Blarg here. She's a neutral herself so three in a single game would be quite a stretch.
Maybe that's to do with her not yet designing a game. I know if I was in her role and situation I'd be seeing that Blarg claim and believing it's either scum or town gambit. Definite lie.
Maybe that's to do with her not yet designing a game. I know if I was in her role and situation I'd be seeing that Blarg claim and believing it's either scum or town gambit. Definite lie.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
yep gog flip gonna be fun.especially for those who just giving a pass to blarg based on his claim alone. Monkey for example, who obviously has her reason for that. Honestly I would’ve pushed for blarg lynch after he claimed. Just based on n1. We know there were multiple kills, with only town claiming one. So there is 2nd kill from non mafia. Then we had a neutral non killer flip. Odds would be very low there were another non killer neutral.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Is verelios who he says he is? No gimmicks or anything just straight town tracker?
Yup. I wonder if scum will finally off him this night phase.
Why do people connect this Giant Panda lynch to me? :(
I clearly came in and shouted he's scum at someone else. Even threatened him openly. Faddy could've got that,
My reads are almost always garbage, especially without any prior scum flip..
Also @Natiko @dragon mom
What was the solution to the riddle yesterday?
I clearly came in and shouted he's scum at someone else. Even threatened him openly. Faddy could've got that,
Blarg was clearly buddying up to town at the end there (it was not w/w like you thought).
My reads are almost always garbage, especially without any prior scum flip..
That clip was great. I'm now only half as frustrated as I was. But really... like come on... how could you scum team... I just subbed in...
My friend Blarg wanted me dead?
Also @Natiko @dragon mom
What was the solution to the riddle yesterday?
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I would agree on that one. He essentially flip flopped between alll three. Gives him town points unless both the others are scum.
Something that bothered me even before subbing in:
Zookfoodle and Zeusy should've been subbed out/modkilled by the end of D3.
They didn't make D2 post count requirement, but the day was shorter, okay. But both of them didn't make it yet again on D3. We are still way too lenient when enforcing this rule.
It's clearly affecting a game when people don't play, I'd prefer much faster subs or modkills.
Zookfoodle and Zeusy should've been subbed out/modkilled by the end of D3.
They didn't make D2 post count requirement, but the day was shorter, okay. But both of them didn't make it yet again on D3. We are still way too lenient when enforcing this rule.
It's clearly affecting a game when people don't play, I'd prefer much faster subs or modkills.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Most posts by someone of the Red God religion.
I’m pretty certain the general idea is that days ended by an early turbo do not count against the players. Beyond that the rule states players receive one warning prior to removal. They got their warning after D3.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I’m strong on 1 warning and turbos don’t count.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Chugger, when you say there is no one who is suspicious, that would normally make town people suspect you.
Except TMBG isn’t normal
Except TMBG isn’t normal
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Sorta? It’s a safe scum choice (from a pure votes and suspicion point of view).
L_P voted for Fran, so it makes Fran look suspicious, it’s NOT vere, so it keeps vere on the hook for suspicion.
The only suspicious person from yesterday it doesn’t help is chugger.
No! Not Particle Man! That's like the only character I can recognize in this entire game!
And yeah, Lone_Prodigy is a sensible choice since he actually started playing and making too much sense doing so.
I would absolutely vote Fran today and keep absolutBro in check as well.
And yeah, Lone_Prodigy is a sensible choice since he actually started playing and making too much sense doing so.
I would absolutely vote Fran today and keep absolutBro in check as well.
why? o.o
I wonder how long they're planning to leave Vere alive. The movement to vote for him seems to be long gone now.
I'd leave him alive since the more he says he's RB'd, the more town would probably get suspicious.
I'd only kill him if I lacked better/more suitable options.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Agreed, but they would have to find them
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
See, this is why I coast.
cabot
Why.
Think you're being too harsh on him this game. LP was really good.
And I say that unwillingly, cause he's the worst.
I'm just surprised he died. I'd have gone after someone else personally. Like Worthy unless he's scum but I don't think he is.
Although I now find myself questioning about if rac is scum for some reason.
Fran + Tearable though feels like a scum pair after the end of the last day but maybe not, idk.
Also yeah LP was good this last phase... before he died.
RIP.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
That doesn't really tell you anything though. 8 veterans out of 16 players, 5 scum members, I can't remember how to math it but it's pretty likely the scum team has at least one of them.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Oh and as a general tip, scum don't need to kill lovers early. They're worth 2 kills whenever you hit them, and in the meantime they're almost certainly vanilla. Their survival shouldn't be particularly surprising, but then this is a town that clings to easy answers (see also: the impending gog lynch)
Because she's soooooo active, posts and stuff...
No one is bothering to actually look at her. How could she be so sure about Fantomas, why is she dropping by every now and then, talking general stuff, but failing to hunt scum?
But I'm more stunned by Blarg and no one even wanting to interact with him... :( talk with him people
No one is bothering to actually look at her. How could she be so sure about Fantomas, why is she dropping by every now and then, talking general stuff, but failing to hunt scum?
But I'm more stunned by Blarg and no one even wanting to interact with him... :( talk with him people
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
if scum wins, Flansy's gonna pull them through
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
I had a feeling I could've been offed. My hope was that scum was working through the ET voters and would've killed someone more quiet.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
Yeah but scum would know I was going to flip town and that this shade would go to waste. It could still be pointless busywork, but it definitely can't be an attempt to set someone up for a future lynch.GoG said:
FYI
Also, unrelated:
Faddy really needs to get this kits lynch today. I thought we were doomed already but this would be a glimmer of hope.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
It did not go unnoticed. That’s all I’ll say on the topic.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I would be going hard on vere today based on vere just revealing the shots from his role.
Also would be looking at rac for this post
Saying that it is scum trying to show shade at Fran for killing L_P and me for Fran’s “busy work”? Missing the whole argument between Fran and I, it was an argument about leadership.
Really wish ET or comrade would spoil us here...
Also would be looking at rac for this post
rac said:
Saying that it is scum trying to show shade at Fran for killing L_P and me for Fran’s “busy work”? Missing the whole argument between Fran and I, it was an argument about leadership.
Really wish ET or comrade would spoil us here...
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Yeah, I don’t think it was intended at all like it could be interpreted. Just want to try and keep everyone somewhat calm and avoid modkills if at all possible.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
How is "LP was killed for trying to get Fran lunched so let's not lunch Fran" a valid argument? I flipped town for crying out loud.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Exactly!! It’s insane!
It’s not the LP was killed let’s not lynch Fran, it’s reframing the argument that’s scummy.
Fran should still die
cabot
Why.
Veres play as scum is really bizarre. There are questions no one has asked that are important.
How does scum tracker vere get from day start to end point of killing Stuart the doctor?
Sruart was being viewed as scummy, that's a pretty big tell that you are a pr if you're on the scum team. That fact alone makes it realistic that Stuart was manipulated by scum PRs.
Why would vere claim blocked? There's been no town role blocker claim, so it seems unlikely he's scum. A real scum tracker would still give further targets to consolidate the claim.
I don't know if its as easy as Fran, tearable and geno all being scum, but two out of three are likely. These players should be showing decent doubt as this player as scum theory.
Kinda waiting for kawl to wake up. Feel like he's let his team down by being so inactive.
It's a meta town tell, because no way he'd be this lazy as scum, but he's still been lazy and it's hurting town.
Oh, not too long after my death. Completely missed that.
looks like scum played that smoothly with establishing him as neutral. Will come back to them though.
Swamped
Dazzling Mafia Queen
This 10000000%. Been guilty of this one many times myself.
Splinter
Lord of Volcano Island
No way, what happened to "afk Kawl is scum Kawl"?
cabot
Why.
Garbage. Always.
The invitational was luck and also a single day phase.
We're now deep in this game and kawl has done very little. This is just frustrating for his team mates if he was scum
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
I hope Kawl doesn't get NK'd before he uses his PR
That would be pretty easy, wouldn't it?
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
I have a feeling that AB's late switch to Zipped might've cost town the game. Could've resolved Vere or Fran but no, let's go for the mildly suspicious one instead.
Now scum will dominate discussion until Vere is gone.
Now scum will dominate discussion until Vere is gone.
Lone_Prodigy
Am I at 10 posts yet?
There's enough suspicion on Fran for sure, but will town go through with it? I can see a Chuggernaut vs Fran situation with Chuggernaut dying. Then scum will off TWE tonight and gun for Vere or Kawl tomorrow.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
But that relies on Fran being scum.
But I agree with you, if Fran is scum and chugger died today it’s a rough town play (unless town does have an alignment cop and has been actually successful at finding. Townies to clear)
At some point you have to clear everyone you can.
Also if the alignment cop exists and has not checked Fran and vere yet? What are you doing?!?!? Seriously...
I mean it’s day 5, and assuming vere is telling the truth on RB last few nights we have many days of clears. But watch they are all on dead people.
But I agree with you, if Fran is scum and chugger died today it’s a rough town play (unless town does have an alignment cop and has been actually successful at finding. Townies to clear)
At some point you have to clear everyone you can.
Also if the alignment cop exists and has not checked Fran and vere yet? What are you doing?!?!? Seriously...
I mean it’s day 5, and assuming vere is telling the truth on RB last few nights we have many days of clears. But watch they are all on dead people.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
chances are slim there is another investigative role in got mafia arent there?
cabot
Why.
you're rotten.
Man, this would’ve been such an easy win for town lol.
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
lol
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I did the same thing! Would be such a bastard move
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
props to town if they figure it out
I kinda intended that to be more to fuck with scum (if I wanted to fuck with town on flip, scum would've had Hotel Detective as a cover role)
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
the dots are connecting so well!
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
So, like communism is clue, it’s just a red herring?
I feel like town can get a breakthrough if they can just get one more scum. Whether they are able to do that before it's too late is anyone's guess, though.
EzekelRAGE
*truffleshuffle*
So with GoG flip town should look at Blarg's claim and those who didnt want to vote him.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh don’t worry, there will be a LOT of people pushing Blarg tomorrow.. lol
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
dragon mom
Plays the Game of Chairs
The mafia team was so obvious with how they tried to save a certain person...lol
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Looks like TMBG had a good old fashioned cluster of a day end... at least those are entertaining
Nice, that's what should've happened the last day phase lol.
Town can do this! Fran must have left a ton of breadcrumbs behind.
Town can do this! Fran must have left a ton of breadcrumbs behind.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
yeah he was hungry
Franconp
Frank
I'm going to be honest:
This was the most frustrating game that I have played so far, and I played Overwatch.
If the low activity was bad during the main game that was not even close to activity in the scum chat.
The scum chat is 90% me talking to myself with noone else posting anything. Sparks was in a bad shape during D1, went to the chat to ask for help and I was the only one trying. It made me mad.
And the nights were even worse. As soon as the day ended I would post something like "I think we should do this, this and that. What everyone thinks?" and I got no replies, no comments, no other targets. All the posts were OK and done. It's like I had to make every decision on the team. During N3 I asked Worm some questions, he gave one answer so I said the we should left Vere alone that night. Then he corrected the answer so I asked if we should roleblock him or just kill him. The only answer that I got was "done". Nothing more. I asked a fucking question and I only got a "done" as an answer.
That pissed me off so I didn't posted in the scum chat during D4. Noone else posted. There is no post in the scum chat during all the D4.
I usually have fun being scum but this time I didn't. At all.
Besides that, Stuart you made your role too obvious. As soon as you voted for Sparks I said that you were the doctor in the scum chat.
This was the most frustrating game that I have played so far, and I played Overwatch.
If the low activity was bad during the main game that was not even close to activity in the scum chat.
The scum chat is 90% me talking to myself with noone else posting anything. Sparks was in a bad shape during D1, went to the chat to ask for help and I was the only one trying. It made me mad.
And the nights were even worse. As soon as the day ended I would post something like "I think we should do this, this and that. What everyone thinks?" and I got no replies, no comments, no other targets. All the posts were OK and done. It's like I had to make every decision on the team. During N3 I asked Worm some questions, he gave one answer so I said the we should left Vere alone that night. Then he corrected the answer so I asked if we should roleblock him or just kill him. The only answer that I got was "done". Nothing more. I asked a fucking question and I only got a "done" as an answer.
That pissed me off so I didn't posted in the scum chat during D4. Noone else posted. There is no post in the scum chat during all the D4.
I usually have fun being scum but this time I didn't. At all.
Also one player decided alone that he would throw all of us under the bus and just win the game by himself. He will likely end winning the game for us but that's not how I like to win. It isn't fun for any of the rest of the team.
Besides that, Stuart you made your role too obvious. As soon as you voted for Sparks I said that you were the doctor in the scum chat.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
@Franconp
My exact words in the mod chat when the scum team for TMBG was rolled:
“I would love to be able to read Fran’s mind the moment he sees that team”
I’m sorry you had such a rough go of things. It was an unusual mix of users and it shook out that you ended up doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Unfortunately not everyone has the time to commit to a game to the degree that others do. The ten post rule helps some, but that does nothing for activity in the scum thread. I haven’t been able to keep up with TMBG but it sounds like you played your ass off, so for that you should feel accomplished no matter anything else.
“I would love to be able to read Fran’s mind the moment he sees that team”
I’m sorry you had such a rough go of things. It was an unusual mix of users and it shook out that you ended up doing a lot of the heavy lifting. Unfortunately not everyone has the time to commit to a game to the degree that others do. The ten post rule helps some, but that does nothing for activity in the scum thread. I haven’t been able to keep up with TMBG but it sounds like you played your ass off, so for that you should feel accomplished no matter anything else.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Vindicated!
I knew it was a good read last day phase.
That sucks about scum chat. It’s usually my favorite part of being scum is being in there and lording it over other players.
I thought you played a good game, especially day 2 with all the craziness.
I knew it was a good read last day phase.
That sucks about scum chat. It’s usually my favorite part of being scum is being in there and lording it over other players.
I thought you played a good game, especially day 2 with all the craziness.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
He took it in surprisingly good spirits. I think he’s savoring one last crazy day with nothing left to lose. It should be a fun sight.
Franconp
Frank
He never told anything. So he was in a gossip chat and he didn't told us. That's beyond stupid. Being scum is about teamwork. Not sharing info is nonsense.
During D4, when I was close to getting lynched, I thought that if I was lynched you could just close the scum chat as noone else would use it anyway.
Can you guys please spoil who the remaining scum for TMBM is? We’re late enough into the game for it to be OK now, right?
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Yeah I agree, though flansy is pointing me in a direction o one of them.
Is it two remaining or just one?
Is it two remaining or just one?
Hi there. I need a long nap
You know, in regards to GoM, I don't think I've ever seen a game where scum has gone this long without losing a single member.
Aren't they in MYLO tomorrow? It'll be down to 12 people; one more mislynch and scum can force a tie in the next day phase.
Aren't they in MYLO tomorrow? It'll be down to 12 people; one more mislynch and scum can force a tie in the next day phase.
If by tomorrow you mean D7, you're correct. We're at 16 alive right now. If the lovers die, we're at 14. Mislynch 13, Nk 12. So it would be mylo D7 not D6?
They've got 2 lynches left, which is kinda incredible considering no scum was caught yet. Scum looks a bit low on numbers (maybe a bit early to tell).
Which brings me to @Girlofgotham any idea why you only got one kill through? Did you target Faddy N3 as well?
Hah, knew it.
Yeah, first time having such an important role and then having someone 'claim' it to save themselves made me panic a little. I almost counter claimed but stopped a little shy of it and just voted.
In retro spec, I should have waited til someone else reacted and then did the "I don't believe you" think and vote.
In fairness, I also thought the immediate vote would help me if I had to claim later and it did. Not enough but I won a few people round to my side before my death.
btw sorry you had to deal with that frustration. I know in your shoes, I'd be pretty pissed in your position as well :(
^ This. I have my suspects but with what I assume is 2 left, I'd be really curious now to see who they were.
Yeah, first time having such an important role and then having someone 'claim' it to save themselves made me panic a little. I almost counter claimed but stopped a little shy of it and just voted.
In retro spec, I should have waited til someone else reacted and then did the "I don't believe you" think and vote.
In fairness, I also thought the immediate vote would help me if I had to claim later and it did. Not enough but I won a few people round to my side before my death.
btw sorry you had to deal with that frustration. I know in your shoes, I'd be pretty pissed in your position as well :(
^ This. I have my suspects but with what I assume is 2 left, I'd be really curious now to see who they were.
cabot
Why.
There were no gog kills.
I suspect TWE is the lone wolf since he's the only one I can see who could get to endgame and I believe he did this behaviour before in cthulu.
If TWE is scum, scum may actually win. I never and still didn't have him pegged as scum.