Scum Thread The Hidden Meeting Room (aka The Bathroom)

Franconp

Frank
Welcome to the Scum chat!

The scum team is:

[m] *Splinter - GMT
[m] rac
[m] malus - UTC+2 - NEW
[m] Fantomas - CST
[m] Nin

The same rules as in the game thread applies here but I will allow that you post your role PMs here.

All your commands can be used here, just make them easy to spot.

Here are some fake names that you can use:

Believes that the Nazi has a base in the moon from where they are planning a new WW
Believes that the piramids where created by aliens as means to communicate with their world
Believes that the goverment is using chemtrails to make people easier to dominate
Believes that the bermuda triangle is a alien warp zone and they are using it to abduct people.

Splinter already has his own fake role and name.

I also said that you got some fake roles that you can claim. Here:

Goon, Tanner, Godfather, Town hooker.

Have fun.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
NIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO

:joffrey::joffrey::joffrey::joffrey:

*Ahem*

Hello team!

I am Fantomas. This is my second game of Mafia, and my first time being on the Scum Team! *Splinter and Nin know me from GoT Mafia. Nice to meet you, Rac and Malus.

Now, let's get down to business. Here is my role PM:

You are a CIA Agent who has infiltrated the bunker to prevent the conspiracy nuts to spread their knowledge to the world.

You are a Liar. During the night phase you can use the command Lie: PlayerName1 PlayerName2. At the start of the next day phase PlayerName1 will receive an PM telling him that PlayerName 2 in not a townie. The player won’t know that you sent the PM. You only have 1-shot.

So, I basically have a one-shot fake red check that I can anonymously send to someone.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Omfg, I did not expect that holy shit.
Glad to have such a good group together as scum.

First and foremost do not write in the game threat that I seem to be town.
Read me as an unknown or scum.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
My role pm is as follows

You are a Men in Black Agent who has infiltrated the bunker to prevent the conspiracy nuts to spread their knowledge to the world.

You are a Tracker. During the night phase you can use the command Track: PlayerName to learn who your target targeted during the same night phase.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Hey team! First time player here, so don't expect too much.
You are a Janitor. During the night phase you can use the command Janitor Kill: PlayerName to modify the night kill. If you were successful your target role and alignment won’t be revealed after death. Note that this is just a modifier and not an extra kill. You need to be the one performing the kill for the modifier to work. You only have 2-shots. You can’t use this command N1. You can’t use this command 2 nights in a row.
I'm a 2-shot Janitor (not N1, not 2 nights in a row)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
First and foremost do not write in the game threat that I seem to be town.
Read me as an unknown or scum.
I would never call you Town!
Hey team! First time player here, so don't expect too much.

I'm a 2-shot Janitor (not N1, not 2 nights in a row)
Being Scum in your first game! Exciting! I'm super pumped that I get to be Mafia in my second game now.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think it's my third time of being scum in all my entire mafia career lol

It's always a pleasure
Dude, I was seriously cackling when I saw your name on the Scum list lmao. I am so pumped!

I'm also terrified though! I really hope I can maintain my general towniness that I had in GoT. I'm scared of Faddy. And Blarg.
 

rac

whatever
Glad to have such a good group together as scum.

eh im terrible
also role

You are an NSA Agent who has infiltrated the bunker to prevent the conspiracy nuts to spread their knowledge to the world.

You are a Secret Voter. During the night phase you can use the command Secret Vote to make all the next day phase votes anonymous. You only have 1-shot. This ability must be used before D4 start (so N3 is the limit). After that you lose your shot.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oooo, I like that role haha wonder what will happen with that.

And nah, nin is right, we've got a great group!
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Omfg, I did not expect that holy shit.
Glad to have such a good group together as scum.

First and foremost do not write in the game threat that I seem to be town.
Read me as an unknown or scum.
I'll read you as I read you and you'll like it

I'm a redirector, of sorts.
You also can use the command Redirect: PlayerName Place during the night phase to change the room where your target will spend the night phase.

There is a little more to my role but for your sake I'll keep it to myself, for the time being.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Welcome to mafia btw malus. Don't fret too much about what you're posting, especially day one when noone knows anything. Just enjoy, and feel free to ask any questions either in here or in the main thread itself
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So, how goes it fellow scum mates?

Let me know if I seem super scummy or anything in the thread, so far I feel like I'm playing like I was in GoT.

I like the map talk since it's easy to get in on because it's not like any of us know shit about it either. If the map isn't a red herring then there probably is a town role or two that make use of it in some way, otherwise idk what to make of it.

And for the record Nin, I was planning to vote for you with one of my first posts before I ever got my Role PM, so don't worry about that lol.

I'll just need to start calling someone scum for some semi-weak reason eventually like I did to Splinter on D1 in GoT haha. The map talk should make that relatively easy since I can probably just pick on someone who isn't making much sense or seems hesitant to talk about it and drop a vote on them.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I think that claim should be ok Fanto. Even if it leads to mislynch, there's plenty of cover for a misfiring cop in a bastard game
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I already gave you safe fake claims. They are in the first post.
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I like the coroner one. Complements my actual role quite nicely.
Oh yeah, just looked that one up. Assuming we get the person's Role PM in here (which is my understanding of how Janitor kills work) then yeah, that would probably be a pretty good one to claim.
 

Franconp

Frank
The role of the player killed by the janitor will not be shared in here.

It will be public after the game ends.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ah yeah, I wasn't really trying to protect him there. More just commenting on it along with the other stuff, the essence of my vote was about his reluctance to move and being weird about the map, that's what I'd focus on if someone tried to say I was defending nin.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Yeah no worries, the rest of the post was fine. It was just a kind of unnecessary point and the kind of thing people can pick up on when one of you flips scum.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
The trick with Faddy is he only believes half of what he says. When he wants to pressure someone he'll throw anything he can think of at them.

In other words, don't sweat it. He'll chew you out for a few hours and then flip to a townread out of nowhere.
 

cabot

Why.
he also seems to insult me randomly in games I have no part in.

I consulted fran, I'll be shooting him with my cool guy gun.
 

rac

whatever
sorry team haven't had time to really pay yet, i should be able to pick it up tonight
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I don't like this claim by Faddy. Sorian's right that it makes no sense to claim it. Could be hiding a more useful role behind that "don't kill me" claim.

Or maybe that's what he wants us to think etc. etc.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, it makes me want to kill him tonight, because assuming he's telling the full truth about his role, I feel like it's better for us to have a day phase to plan ahead of time instead of losing the night following his lynch, right?

But then, why is Faddy trying to get Scum to think of reasons to want to kill him already on D1 lol. Makes me start thinking about his motives haha, he's too good.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
As he himself said it seems pretty useless if he is nightkilled, which makes me think it may not only block the next night phase but also the day phase. Or it's something completely different lol.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
In any case I would like to have the next steps planned out before we kill him.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I realize I'm playing with fire by voting for Faddy, but I don't think he actually finds my vote odd there. I'm also betting on him expecting me to be suspicious of him if I'm Town. So yeah, hopefully I don't get burned lol I think I made a decently believable shitty-D1-case on him.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh no, we lost Rac! Too bad. :( I wonder who our replacement will be, it looks like Ketkat is first on the list, she was great in GoT, would love to get her in here.
 
Helloooo, I'm catching up now but just without thinking about who was on my team, you felt pretty solidly town fanto.

Also, I have no idea when it would be best to use this power
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Haha, thanks! I'm trying to just pretend I'm Town when I go to post in the main thread. It's hard sometimes though lol.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Wild theory time:
Sorian and Spark are in a mason chat and are trying to set a lure by starting a bandwagon on Kalor.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Looks like it might be setting up to be Geno/Terraforce now with Sorian switching to Terra and Faddy going to Splinter.

I've been the most open about reading Geno as scummy among them, and I'm not sure if I want to stack my vote with Malus. I've also thrown shade at Terra recently though, so I can probably frame this as a debate between the two of them in my mind, and maybe mention Splinter too just to throw Faddy a bone, but say I wouldn't vote there today. Honestly though if anyone else joins Faddy I'm going to feel obligated to join too because I couldn't help but point out how scummy you have seemed at times and I know Faddy is going to beg for my vote on that train if it picks up steam because of that.

This is the part of playing as Scum that I'm most worried about is EoD votes haha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Faddy said:
Do you think Fantomas is able to fake that kind of evaluation though. Much easier as mafia to take one stance and stick to it.
Oh Faddy, my dude...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Sorian said:
Waited for the last minute on this so that it wouldn’t distract from the discussion for day 1. I made a choice during the day phase today, when day 2 starts, I’m going to have been deleted from the game (removed from the player list, blah blah, you’ve seen it before). You won’t get a flip from me but when day 3 rolls around, it will be extremely obvious what I did. If you all want to fuck with me during tonight’s phase, go for it, but I already did my thing so that’s your call. I debated if it was worth pointing this out cause maybe I could eat scum PRs but I didn’t want to just disappear and let you all fight about it for a day. Good luck everyone.

Pre typed obviously, peace.
Thoughts?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also do we shoot Terra? Are we worried he'll check one of us? I doubt he would, but who knows. Unless anyone really thinks he was faking being a cop? Seems verrrrry risky.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also nin, my dude, where were you man? You kind of disappeared on the game, are you still around?
 
I feel like there's a pretty safe bet that terra will be protected, so it might be worth aiming somewhere else tonight
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, good point. I suppose we have a bit of time to mull over some good options. Maybe someone who was against the B-Dubs votes? That way maybe you could continue down that path without any real concern getting in the way lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh wait, I just realized I was the only scum member on B-Dubs even. I thought someone else hopped on there. Huh.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
And there's the RIP on B-Dubs. Sorry buddy if you read this later haha.

That role is interesting though. It seems to imply people can move rooms at night. Since this is a Bastard game though, and Role Madness, I could see that being literally nothing. It does make sense why he thought maybe people in a whole room could be fucked with though, thinking Scum can move at night to different rooms. But, well, none of us can, so that's kind of what makes me think it's a bullshit Bastard role.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I think we should get rid of Faddy rather sooner than later. In GoT scum couldn't kill him early and it could have cost them the victory. I was actually hoping to janitor kill Faddy so I could claim coroner and be like "he was telling the truth after all", but with the Terra claim it may be a good opportunity to get to him without protection now.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I think we should get rid of Faddy rather sooner than later. In GoT scum couldn't kill him early and it could have cost them the victory. I was actually hoping to janitor kill Faddy so I could claim coroner and be like "he was telling the truth after all", but with the Terra claim it may be a good opportunity to get to him without protection now.
Yeah, I'm always going to be down for the Faddy NK haha. I am hella nervous when he is around, especially when he's talking about me. Even him town reading me and defending me is scary in it's own way lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Also I'm thinking I hold on to my power for a while still. Although I feel like it could be useful early (a fake red check on D2 sounds kind of familiar), it might be even more useful later as a distraction or something. I'm open to everyone's thoughts though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hey nin, would definitely like to hear your thoughts on D1 since you weren't really around. Would also like to hear everyone else's thoughts too.

For myself, I think most of us are looking pretty good on a general thread vibe level. Myself and Ketkat I think seem the most towny, most people seem willing to give Malus a pass as a new player. Splinter and Nin however are both catching some heat, so I think we'll need to watch out for that tomorrow. I'm trying to keep you both on a null/slight scum read for now, but I'm going to be 100% honest and say that I think you two are kind of the prime bus candidates so far for the rest of us to get Town Cred if it ever comes to that.

As for our abilities, like I said I think I want to hold on to mine for a bit still. Splinter I guess it's up to him if he wants to switch someone's Room but idk what that would do for us. Janitor is off the table on N1.

So that leaves Nin's Track and Ketkat's Secret Vote (plus our normal kill of course).

I think we should maybe hold off on the Secret Vote for now, I want to get a better idea of what we all expect to happen with that.

For the Track, I think it would probably be best if we try to find a Doctor/Protector out there. So if we Track someone and they are on Terraforce (who is most likely to be protected tonight after his Cop claim) I would guess we probably found them. I don't know who I would guess is the doctor/protector with such little info to go off of. I would normally guess that it's someone who isn't being very active, the protector in GoT was Giant Panda and he was mostly quiet until he had used his shots and claimed, then he was a more active force in the thread itself rather than just at night.

So yeah.

TL;DR:
Myself, Ketkat, and Malus seem safe tomorrow.
Nin and Splinter could catch some heat.
I don't want to use my ability tonight.
Janitor is off the table N1.
Let's discuss Secret Vote and what it will do some more.
Track should probably be used to try to find a Doctor.
Who should we kill?
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Fantomas is definitely our main anchor in town at the moment. I think KetKat will have to prove herself tomorrow and hasn't really been classified as town/scum yet. I could see myself getting a bit more heat in the next phase now that my "new player protection" is gone. Splinter is getting side eyed quite a bit I feel, but nin seems to be largely forgotten due to his absence at day end.

A secret vote will probably be most useful when there are still many/all of us around and there is not a consensus among town. I guess people will still want to know who votes for whom and will look for discrepancies in the final result but it will be much harder to track votes during the day unless some players demand that everyone should still use the highlight to state their intended vote in the thread.

I think Terra is off the table for a kill since he will probably be protected. Not sure what to make of Sorians claim, but I guess it also excludes him from the night kill. Faddy seems to paint quite the target on himself with his claim, maybe setting up a trap, but he basically did the same in GoT so he might also be hoping for protection which is now weakend due to Terra. I would classify those three as our main threats at the moment, but it may also be worthwile to go after someone else due to the risk involved with them. Maybe someone that is mostly town read at the moment.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Not sure who to track at the moment. Maybe someone that is flying under the radar.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
And there's the RIP on B-Dubs. Sorry buddy if you read this later haha.

That role is interesting though. It seems to imply people can move rooms at night.
I guess his role means that the one affected can only target someone that is in the same room. So if he stopped a mafia player that tried to kill someone in another room, that kill would be denied etc.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
What about a kill on someone like Fireblend or Poltergust? I feel like neither of them drew much heat and the general vibes on both are pretty townie to me. Will read through again later for some general "townie but not really a big presence" type people later too.

And then for a track, still not sure, on mobile at the moment so I'm not looking at the player list, but yeah I'd think it would be worth putting on an under the radar player.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Yeah those could be good targets for the kill. I would probably go for Fireblend between the two since he seemed to be a bit more engaged than Poltergust.

Track target could be StanleyPalmtree or Lone_Prodigy, but I guess at the moment it is still a shot in the dark so in the end it doesn't really matter who we track.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, here's the player list with the post counts, but with us, B-Dubs, and Sorian removed. So, for under the radar, honestly almost everyone on this list besides a few at the top were somewhat under the radar haha.

I'll highlight the ones I think could be worthy of a Kill in Red, and the ones I think could be worthy of a Track with Blue.

faddy: 83
verelios: 43
kalor: 41
terraforce: 38
thechuggernaut: 29
comrade sparkster: 25
melonrabbit: 23
poltergust: 22
geno: 20
fireblend: 17
zippedpinhead: 15
stanleypalmtree: 15
lone_prodigy: 13
blargonaut: 11

I think those would be my top 3 for each just right now. Would love to hear everyone's thoughts though.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah those could be good targets for the kill. I would probably go for Fireblend between the two since he seemed to be a bit more engaged than Poltergust.

Track target could be StanleyPalmtree or Lone_Prodigy, but I guess at the moment it is still a shot in the dark so in the end it doesn't really matter who we track.
How do you feel about LP as a kill target too? The guy seems like he's very logical, and even though he might not post much, his reads and observations have actually been pretty good I feel like. Plus I don't think anyone would see that kill coming, and I think others are generally feeling the same way about him, which is a lean-town kind of feel.
 
I'm definitely not solidified as town in any way. I didn't really take any hard stances on anything, I just probed a little bit and didn't even put down a vote. I think I'll get somewhat of a pass for now, since I replaced in the day phase kind of late and melon did her thing there at the end, but it'll probably come up later at some point. I should be able to be more active from here on out though and actually steer things the way we want. I was stuck on mobile and had limited battery since that hurricane had our power knocked out for a few days.

As for who we should kill, I think that aiming for someone we're unsure about might be the better alternative here. The room mechanic does worry me and my first thought when seeing it was some kind of arson-type that's marking people in the rooms or doing something to them, so I'm somewhat concerned about that. My guess is someone is laying low and setting that up, and Blarg's quietness is so strange that I'm concerned about him. But that's really a wild shot in the dark, so I don't think we should necessarily kill him or anything right now.

Out of the people that we're considering to kill, I think it'd be okay to pass on LP for now. He's in that final surge of votes on B-dubs, and people are going to be looking into that in the future. It's important that Terra is still alive for that so they aren't sure it was town v town, so we should avoid him as well. I don't have a real preference between Poltergust and Fireblend, but I'm leaning towards Fireblend when reviewing their posts. I'm really unsure who we should track though. That's a bit harder to figure out and feels a little more like a shot in the dark IMO.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Don't kill fire,
Dont worry about me, if town would town read me it would mean I am scum.
Will track Blarg
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
We don't have to kill Fire. But, is there anyone else you'd rather see us go for?

Go for the lowest posters. They are pro hiding something.

Again, will be back with an in depth post in the morning. Sorry everyone. Did not expect to get sick. :(((
 
Go for the lowest posters. They are pro hiding something.

Again, will be back with an in depth post in the morning. Sorry everyone. Did not expect to get sick. :(((

That's okay! Take all the time you need to rest up and I hope you feel better soon!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Well, I suppose Chuggernaut and ZippedPinhead would be other lower-activity players to throw out there for the Kill. I'm going to be heading over to a friend's house shortly (4-player Mario Party!!!) but I'll try to review the thread for some of those players later tonight, see if I can spot any bread crumbs maybe, and think of a target between them and Fire/Poltergust as well (though if Nin really doesn't want to shoot Fire then I'm fine with that too).

Speaking of bread crumbs, I don't know if everyone noticed, but I did drop a bread crumb for my fake "amnesiac cop" claim early on. I told Faddy I would try to "pretend I have amnesia" when it came to GoT. So I might actually try that gambit at some point later in the game, probably after we kill Terra, so I can say I figured I'd use my one-shot now that he was dead.

Also I agree with the track on Blarg, that's a good call. He's probably up to something.

And yeah, I hope you feel better soon nin, sorry to hear you're sick. :(
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Hey gang, sorry for the inactivity on my end, should improve next week.

I'm not worried about the heat on me. A little suspicion never hurt anyone. Until it does, of course.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, I got the chance to look back on some of the people we were talking about. I would still feel best about Poltergust or Fireblend personally. Zipped and Chuggernaut have both been odd enough that I feel there could be mislynch potential there. I think we should try going for people we doubt we could get in a mislynch, and right now, I would say that Poltergust and Fireblend fit that pretty well. Stan is another one I would maybe float out there.

However, Nin seems to not want to kill Fireblend, and Splinter seems to be against the kill on Poltergust. I'd definitely like to hear some more detailed thoughts on why you guys think they should not be killed yet and if you have alternatives in mind.

I do still really like Nin's idea of picking Blarg for a track target though, getting info on what the heck Blarg is up to is probably a good thing.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
If Poltergust dies, I die. That's the part of my role I didn't tell you earlier. We're lovers with a secret chat.

I figured the info didn't help much beyond being interesting, and it'd be easier to react to a reveal if you didn't know about it in advance. But on the other hand I don't want any mishaps ;)

Also I can give you some more insight into his townie thoughts I guess.

He seems to think I'm town, but is definitely aware of the possibility I could be scum.

I think he has no other powers - I implied I don't and he didn't correct me. Could just be playing his cards close to his chest.

He's mostly talked about the map mechanic. He'll be aiming for the least populated rooms in general. Shrug.

More interestingly, he doesn't believe Terra's cop claim. What do you all think about it?
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
*I suppose he could also be neutral, but that's pretty irrelevant to us as we can't kill him anyway. Our team is large enough to rule out a second scum team, I think.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Oh wow lol. Ok haha, that makes sense then. Polter could also do like Stan did in GoT for B-Dubs and save you from a lynch, so that could be incredibly useful.

As for Terra's claim, I don't see a reason to doubt it, but I'm coming at this from a Scum mindset too I suppose haha. If I were Town I could see me being a little suspicious but as long as he provides info in the thread today I would probably believe him.

So with that, I would probably want to target Fireblend personally. Nin did seem to be against that though, so I'd like to hear his thoughts on that. I believe Ketkat and Malus were both up for the Fireblend kill, so currently I guess that would make it 3-1 in favor of killing Fireblend. I definitely want to hear why Nin does not want to kill him though.
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
Do we have any blocking abilities? Anything that could deal with Terra if he's telling the truth?
 

Splinter

Lord of Volcano Island
I also think Fire is a good choice. He got a soft town read and hasn't done much else, as far as I remember
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Hey hey.
I do not want to kill Fire tonight since he openly said that he was iffy about me.
Him being killed after that comment will just put more heat on me.
I don't mind the heat but no need to put on heat on me on day2. :p
 
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