Spectator Thread Mansion and Simon Spectator Thread

Fanto

Confirmed Town
But only because town/scum were already gonna mislynch Fand anyway because Sorian told them to :P
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Girlofgotham feels kind of sketchy to me here actually...

I'd say my D1 suspect list is looking like: Kalor, Muffin, Girlofgotham, Fat4all, Grizzly, Stuart
 
I hope they solidify a train way before EoD

I don't wanna have to handle the flip during the Direct :B

I know this won't happen btw
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just for another note on Simon Says, I think Malus is playing really well so far, and I think he has the right idea that it's more about who do they want to be protected from getting killed on N1 more than who they want to get some mystery role.

However, the fact that I'm not scum reading Malus immediately makes me think that he could be Scum here lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I feel like a lot of these votes on Zipped are going to move pretty soon here.

The question is where do they move to. Are some of them Scum and waiting for the right train to jump to? Are they Town and just want to stick to their gut instead?

Then there's 8 players that only have one vote on them. Any could get turned into a competing train by the non-voters plus anyone willing to move off of Zipped sometime soon.

Not sure who they'll end up going for. I could see it being Grizzly, but I could also see an alternative cropping up soon as well.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Just for another note on Simon Says, I think Malus is playing really well so far, and I think he has the right idea that it's more about who do they want to be protected from getting killed on N1 more than who they want to get some mystery role.

However, the fact that I'm not scum reading Malus immediately makes me think that he could be Scum here lol.

Yep, I like how Fran and malus are trying to read the situation. Everyone will know how Simon works on D2, and they're close.

Wish the game was more active and people tried to build more trust amongst thenselves on D1 but eh, I created it wanting it to be a more casual game; that and many players actually wanted to be in the other game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Wish the game was more active and people tried to build more trust amongst thenselves on D1 but eh, I created it wanting it to be a more casual game; that and many players actually wanted to be in the other game.
I do wish it was a bit more active yeah. I'm pretty sure once they understand things a bit more though (and maybe once Faddy starts playing haha) then the activity will pick up.

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I'd probably say I'd vote for either Cabot or Fran to be Simon so far. Both are high post count players, and I think giving them protection on N1 is a good idea to keep Scum from shooting someone who talks too much and is easy to Town read because of that.
And yes, I say this as someone who was once shot by Scum on N1 for talking too much and being easy to Town read because of that lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
@Fireblend do you think there could be a way to include the current list of non-voters when getting the BBCode to post a vote count in the thread? I feel like that might be useful info alongside the post count totals at the bottom, just so people don't have to go directly to the tool to get that info when a count is being posted in the thread.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Can't believe what's about to happen in Simon, that's some luck lol
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, sorry the thread's moving fast so I've just been hitting refresh every couple minutes haha.

So, the vote leaders:
Kaz - Wouldn't want to lynch him today, mostly a Null read.
Lux - Pretty inactive, wouldn't be the worst, but if he's Town it would be kind of harsh.
Stuart - Gut says he's Scum, but I always think he's Scum early in the game.
Grizzly - Just have gotten some weird vibes from some of his posts, lean Scum, would probably put my vote there if I was playing and had to choose between these 4.

I would probably have a vote on Kalor personally just because he's naturally sketchy to me and I think, as Splinter put it I think, he lives under the radar haha.
 

cabot

Why.
Not much to say really. Faddy was right about the lack of caring though I'm a little annoyed he didn't even let me respond
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
It was my favorite role too, don't remember the last time we had a hammerer here.

Future designers: this is what people mean when they say that sometimes you can't predict every outcome in your game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Future designers: this is what people mean when they say that sometimes you can't predict every outcome in your game.
Impossible! I've already accounted for everything that can happen in LiS! I am sure nothing will surprise me at all!

Quote this post in the LiS spec thread.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah this flurry of votes is really good lol. They are going to have a lot of vote data on D2 to look at.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
everyone stop both games cause direct is on, we can worry about them later
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
I kind of mentally checked out once people started to scum read me for the same reason they always do in D1. Hopefully this flip will finally mean I get to actually play in the future and not feel like shit on D1.

That said, I was hoping for either Kaz or Lux to go.
 
Ok, good, that wasn't a tie lol. I was worried.
I had to triple-check to see if it wasn't a tie as well. Insane.

I kind of mentally checked out once people started to scum read me for the same reason they always do in D1. Hopefully this flip will finally mean I get to actually play in the future and not feel like shit on D1.

That said, I was hoping for either Kaz or Lux to go.
I'm sorry to hear that :(

But, yeah. At least you can just point to this the next time that goes down.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I kind of mentally checked out once people started to scum read me for the same reason they always do in D1. Hopefully this flip will finally mean I get to actually play in the future and not feel like shit on D1.

That said, I was hoping for either Kaz or Lux to go.
:(

Would love to see your take on the votes at EoD there if you feel like it and get the chance. There was so much movement in that last hour it makes my head spin just thinking about it all lol.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Mansion's D1 ended in a spectacular way, you usually see that anxiety later on in games, rarely right at the beginning
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ok, here's a read list for Simon Says based on that Scum Cabot reveal. I'm assuming Scum started with 3-4.

Town:
Faddy
Never Forever
Malus
TheChuggernaut
Fran
Apollo

Null:
SalvaPot
EzekelRAGE
DCPat
Swamped

Scum:
Meatwad
Verelios
Exodus

I was already pretty sure this was Scum Meatwad again, even though I've never seen his Town game haha. Mainly just the tone of his posts I guess?

Verelios was being sketchy, and I don't like how nervous he seems post-Cabot flip.

Exodus was also being somewhat sketchy around the Cabot flip.

In the Nulls, I wouldn't be surprised if one of Salva, Zeke, or Pat were Scum if I'm wrong elsewhere. Swamped is one I'm just not as sure on as my other reads either way.

The Towns I feel pretty confident about. I wouldn't be too shocked if I was wrong on Fran or Apollo, but I'd feel pretty dumb if I was wrong elsewhere on that Town list.
 
Welcome Bear, sucks that you got lynched. I could feel your frustration through the end of the day :(

Also, I love how the skull next to your name looks in the vote tool. It works so well! I'm super pleased with it even if there's still some functionality that could be better/added.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Not sure if I can guess who Scum will shoot tonight in The Mansion, they have a lot of options I think. Excited to see the day start though, I expect a lot of activity, and hopefully some people will analyze those EoD votes for me lol.

As for Simon Says, Faddy will obviously get the Simon vote and he is also obviously Town and obviously the Vig. I don't like any of these discussions about how Faddy could be Scum and/or that he's not the real Vig and the real Vig is just waiting until D5 to claim and expose Faddy or whatever is being suggested in there lol. Like, sure, I get it, Scum can and will do the craziest things, but I would be sooo against that line of reasoning if I was in that game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lol, ok then, that's a hammer.

Now I really feel bad for Zeke lol. Faddy specifically said not to hammer him as the Simon vote, and then Meatwad just doesn't care lol.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Scum in Simon have picked up on something pretty obvious that no one else in the thread bothered to point out. Really interested to see how D2 unfolds.. lol
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Both Simon and Mansion are going to have good examples of fun roles being nuked early. Being a gamerunner can be heartbreaking when your fun toys get broken early lol
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Scum in Simon have picked up on something pretty obvious that no one else in the thread bothered to point out.
I have one thought off the top of my head about what this might be, but I'm probably wrong. Does it have to do with the Vig shot?
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I have one thought off the top of my head about what this might be, but I'm probably wrong. Does it have to do with the Vig shot?
Yes

I don't think so :P
Oh yeah! I forgot about [REDACTED]. That's what happens when you just glance at the design long enough to figure out what's needed on OM. Still though - I'm pretty sure [REDACTED] happening later would have made for a better spectacle.
 
Oh yeah! I forgot about [REDACTED]. That's what happens when you just glance at the design long enough to figure out what's needed on OM. Still though - I'm pretty sure [READACTED] happening later would have made for a better spectacle.
Most definitely haha
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Salva, honey

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I really appreciate NF's style, and I'm glad he returned to our games~
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
The thing that came to my mind was that one could say that both Faddy and Apollo soft claimed the shot, but I don't think anyone talked about Apollo's "Bang" post.

Probably wrong though lol.
Correct. Question remains which, if any, are an actual soft claim lol
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Correct. Question remains which, if any, are an actual soft claim lol
God damn lol.

Ok, because I can see the world where Apollo took that shot, soft claims it with the "Bang", then immediately votes for Faddy because she thinks Faddy is Town for calling out Cabot that harshly on D1. Faddy then goes with it, realizing that it was Apollo, and allows the rest of the thread to assume it was him instead, hoping Scum thinks the same thing. It also makes sense why Apollo later said she still wanted to be Simon too even when it was obvious the thread was going to vote for Faddy.

Or else it was just Faddy the whole time, but that's not nearly as fun as this theory!
 
On one hand, scum fucked up.

On the other, they got unbelievably lucky with one of their lesser commands. I'm very upset by this chain of events :lol
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
On one hand, scum fucked up.

On the other, they got unbelievably lucky with one of their lesser commands. I'm very upset by this chain of events :lol
I was wondering if that would cause that. If what I think is going to happen happens, I wonder how confused they're going to be.
 
What would make you upset? o.o
You'll see, hahaha :(

I'll throw people who haven't been spoiled a bone, since I feel bad that we keep talking in cryptic ways: an incredibly unlikely scenario went down by pure chance, and Kopite is screwed today. And it will likely get worse than that due to his role.
 
You'll see, hahaha :(

I'll throw people who haven't been spoiled a bone, since I feel bad that we keep talking in cryptic ways: an incredibly unlikely scenario went down by pure chance, and Kopite is screwed today. And it will likely get worse than that due to his role.

Reminds me of when Stu got screwed in a previous mafia game (the one where he as a doctor got tracked and when he got tracked, he was tracked to the person who died instead of his actual target, resulted in his lynch ;_:)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Ahhhh, so they hit protection huh?

Non-voters get lynched lol pretty good modifier, I can dig it.

I guess we'll see what's up with Kopite now...
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Kitsunelaine said:
What are the chances that scum just didn't kill anyone in order to have us chase our tails?
If Blarg were in the game, probably about 22%.

No Blarg in the game though, so more like 0.022%.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I honestly have no reads for The Mansion lol there are so many people that seem scummy to me.

I feel like so far people are going after low hanging fruit though. I'm somewhat doubting that either Kaz or Kits are Scum here.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Idk what to think of B-Dubs and Hecht. Either one of them is Scum or they're just flirting with each other.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Day vigi and Kings have broken me.

If there's ever a day 1 kingmaker again, I'm subbing out
I'm sorry it wasn't fun for you, cabot :c

FWIW, I also wouldn't want a "choose the leader" game anytime soon either. The reason I put it in Simon Says was because it had been ~5 seasons since the last time we had one of those when I designed it; it just happened that MafiEra, that from what I understand was designer after it, had a similar system. Wouldn't want that kind of thing to be common.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Just got caught up.

The Kits and Stan argument lol that was some top tier reading material right there lol fun stuff to wake up to.

StanleyPalmtree said:
Spec thread is probably breaking out the popcorn gifs rn.
StanleyPalmtree said:
YEAH THATS RIGHT YOU SMUG FUCKERS I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LIKE.

HOW BOUT YOU STEP INTO AN ACTUAL GAME AND SEE IF ITS ALL STILL SO BLOODY OBVIOUS.

buncha pricks every time sweartahgod
StanleyPalmtree said:
"Oh man how could town not see that that player is scum, i mean i only know because the game runner told me but im still gonna be all fucking judgemental about it"
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Splinter uses a Double Vote on Stuart, eh? Ok, good, I had been Town reading Splints but with a side of "I know how good he is as Scum though", so I'm just going to go right ahead and assume that is a Town role and stop being paranoid about him lol.

I wonder if Kopite will even show up :x
Your tease has me on the edge of my seat waiting for him lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Aeleus is making me think he already knows what happened to Kopite, which is... concerning lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Between Aeleus giving an extremely specific scenario that would account for why Kopite hasn't posted yet and Hecht claiming as a BP after a no-kill night, this is definitely my kind of D2 so far lol.
 

cabot

Why.
I'm sorry it wasn't fun for you, cabot :c

FWIW, I also wouldn't want a "choose the leader" game anytime soon either. The reason I put it in Simon Says was because it had been ~5 seasons since the last time we had one of those when I designed it; it just happened that MafiEra, that from what I understand was designer after it, had a similar system. Wouldn't want that kind of thing to be common.


Yeah that was some unfortunate timing.

Difficult to arrange pacing around games unless you've got someone in charge of scheduling who knows what all games designs are. Not sure if anyone would take up that mantle.
 
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