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I've been agonizing all day over Aeleus dying.

@Aeleus you played really well! Great job. Scum got insanely lucky... but at least you got to see two scum go alongside you, hahaha.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah, Aeleus you did great! That was a ridiculously unlucky way to have to go out, there was nothing you could have done about that. Hopefully you have fun watching the rest of the game from here! :)
 
And Kopite, I immediately regretted that mechanic when you asked me if you had a chance of surviving today. Sorry about that :x
 
Yeah, it must have sucked to go through the day knowing your fate was sealed :( but hey! There's always a next time, and 2 dead scum in 2 days is not bad at all :D
 
Still embarassed about our assumption that Kopite couldn't speak in the game thread, really caused unneeded confusion,
Pretty happy with my reads if only because I stole the one on Kaz from Grizzly wholesale.

Really enjoyed the game and if people are going no spoilers in here spec I will to.

But can someone tell me if Z-Beat is scum?
 
Whew, that was an intense end of day.

I have to say, Kitsune publicly speculating about who the vig is had me like:
c7f.gif
 

The Bear

Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
Outside of marvel mafia, I think this is a record. And Marvel Mafia was a special case.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Here's an updated read list for Mansion, for whoever is interested.

Town Because I Believe The Claims:
Godfather
turmoil7

Town Lean:
BronsonLee
WhySoDevious
Z-Beat
*Splinter
Girlofgotham

Null:
Kitsunelaine
Kalor
Stuart444
saenima
ZippedPinhead
StanleyPalmtree

The Not So Believable Claims:
Hecht
Fat4all

Scum:
weemadarthur
B-Dubs
Muffin
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
As for Simon, things are moving slowly, but I'd probably lock in DCPat as Scum at this point.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
Not really bothered about the afk lynch. I almost popped in last night but the post I was writing was a bit nasty so I deleted and went to bed. My main concern is just that people aren't using their heads.

You'd think when it's clear that I'm not coming back and my apparently final vote is on a confirmed scum... that you think I'm suspicious for... protecting (even though he wasn't even the leader when I started swapping votes)... there might be some reflection. Disappointing play by town. Feel bad for the scum team as well with the kaz thing
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Not really bothered about the afk lynch. I almost popped in last night but the post I was writing was a bit nasty so I deleted and went to bed. My main concern is just that people aren't using their heads.

You'd think when it's clear that I'm not coming back and my apparently final vote is on a confirmed scum... that you think I'm suspicious for... protecting (even though he wasn't even the leader when I started swapping votes)... there might be some reflection. Disappointing play by town. Feel bad for the scum team as well with the kaz thing

Yeah, your lynch happened too easily.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Not really bothered about the afk lynch. I almost popped in last night but the post I was writing was a bit nasty so I deleted and went to bed. My main concern is just that people aren't using their heads.

You'd think when it's clear that I'm not coming back and my apparently final vote is on a confirmed scum... that you think I'm suspicious for... protecting (even though he wasn't even the leader when I started swapping votes)... there might be some reflection. Disappointing play by town. Feel bad for the scum team as well with the kaz thing
From an outside perspective, yeah I felt pretty bad seeing votes pile on you while you were asleep and never had the chance to react to the major events towards the end of the day. 20+ people in the game, plenty are there and acting scummy, but they decide to go for the guy who isn't around? I won't say I haven't been guilty of doing similar things in the past or that I would never have done it if I were in the game, but yeah, outside perspective, it felt bad seeing it happen.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Aww, sad that Never Forever needed a replacement in Simon, I really liked watching him play!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
TheChuggernaut said:
Not going to lie, I have no idea how I managed to get this town read
This is how I know you're Town, Chugg lol.

If this is ScumChugg, I'm going to laugh my ass off after this game.
 
So I'd like to apologize first to my scum team for dropping the ball so hard. That was a completely avoidable death. I almost voted for FEP when I came in and unvoted but I was like "no, no one will agree with that. I'd just get lynched faster". I'd like to also apologize to you, (again) Brazil and all the more that put so much time into running these games. Lastly for all the others whose experience was lessened because I was negligent, I'm sorry. Really embarrassed about how I went out. I already felt like I was ruining my first shot at scum super hard and now this.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
So I'd like to apologize first to my scum team for dropping the ball so hard. That was a completely avoidable death. I almost voted for FEP when I came in and unvoted but I was like "no, no one will agree with that. I'd just get lynched faster". I'd like to also apologize to you, (again) Brazil and all the more that put so much time into running these games. Lastly for all the others whose experience was lessened because I was negligent, I'm sorry. Really embarrassed about how I went out. I already felt like I was ruining my first shot at scum super hard and now this.
Well just to speak for myself, I had a lot of fun watching you play, so you don't need to apologize to me! I'm sorry about how you went out, but I really do hope I get the chance to play with you sometime. Your gif usage is on point!

Also, I thought you were Town the whole time, so well done. :)
 
Well just to speak for myself, I had a lot of fun watching you play, so you don't need to apologize to me! I'm sorry about how you went out, but I really do hope I get the chance to play with you sometime. Your gif usage is on point!

Also, I thought you were Town the whole time, so well done. :)
Thank you for saying this. Also nice on posting the same song lol
 

Kopite

Quickdraw King
@Aeleus was pretty good this game with the little they could do, sorry again that you're game got cut short and hope to play with you again soon!

And Kopite, I immediately regretted that mechanic when you asked me if you had a chance of surviving today. Sorry about that :x
There's a certain serenity when you know you're dying :P Anyway getting taken out from what's, in essence, a NK leaves you much less saltier than if you get lynched or survive till EOG and lose. I just wish Aeleus didn't go out with me, and it begs the question again why was I targeted?
 
Btw I sorta missed this but how did Kaz die as well, didn't town vote to lynch feps?
Yeah I was super dumb. I went out last night to celebrate my first Mardi Gras (like three weekends before the actual thing, people are nuts here) and I got distracted and only checked my phone minutes after the day ended. Totally avoidable. Completely my fault. I knew what the room did and unvoted instead of placing down a vote. The idea was that by not putting any vote down people wouldn't have an extra reason to hop on the Kaz train.
 
So I'd like to apologize first to my scum team for dropping the ball so hard. That was a completely avoidable death. I almost voted for FEP when I came in and unvoted but I was like "no, no one will agree with that. I'd just get lynched faster". I'd like to also apologize to you, (again) Brazil and all the more that put so much time into running these games. Lastly for all the others whose experience was lessened because I was negligent, I'm sorry. Really embarrassed about how I went out. I already felt like I was ruining my first shot at scum super hard and now this.
As far as I’m concerned, my only regret is that you didn’t get to enjoy the game to the end. That really could’ve happened to anyone. Don’t beat yourself over it too much.

:’(
 
There's a certain serenity when you know you're dying :P Anyway getting taken out from what's, in essence, a NK leaves you much less saltier than if you get lynched or survive till EOG and lose. I just wish Aeleus didn't go out with me, and it begs the question again why was I targeted?
Scum wanted to frame Godfather. They never made the connection between their “silencer” role with the “silence will be punished” description - it was entirely luck.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'm guessing DCPat goes down in Simon Says, both Faddy and Fran seem to want him first, and with Chugg already there, and everyone having double votes... not looking good for him.
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
we need a confirmedtown.gif for dcp if he lives through the night
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I'd be more like Stuart here.

Less certain of a strong kill, more suspicious of hecht
That was my first thought too. Strongman always makes sense, but Hecht's claim is even more sus than it already was now.
 
With godfather's death I think it's confirmed that Kopite's silence was supposed to put suspicion on Godfather, seems like a waste if they were targeting him for a kill on the same night
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Yeah I think Hecht is Not Town, at the least lol. 1 Scum and 2 Town having BPs? Nah. 1 Scum, 1 Town, 1 Neutral? Makes sense. Hecht being Scum and lying? Also makes sense.
 

cabot

Why.
If there's no doctor, I suppose it's possible.

But that's the extreme option.

I don't think kalor had started this day well
 
lol

One player just sent me a message in despair over the fact that they were seemingly the only one to notice the vig’s and GF’s target breadcrumbs.
 
Not really bothered about the afk lynch. I almost popped in last night but the post I was writing was a bit nasty so I deleted and went to bed. My main concern is just that people aren't using their heads.

You'd think when it's clear that I'm not coming back and my apparently final vote is on a confirmed scum... that you think I'm suspicious for... protecting (even though he wasn't even the leader when I started swapping votes)... there might be some reflection. Disappointing play by town. Feel bad for the scum team as well with the kaz thing

My only excuse is I was short on time to read back through the current day, and in a vacuum, your Day 1 vote wasn't ideal. I also stupidly thought Kaz wasn't scum. I didn't think 2 of the 4 people from Day 1 were scum.
 
lol

One player just sent me a message in despair over the fact that they were seemingly the only one to notice the vig’s and GF’s target breadcrumbs.
I need to know! My breadcrumb is maybe a double edged sword.

@Aeleus was pretty good this game with the little they could do, sorry again that you're game got cut short and hope to play with you again soon!


There's a certain serenity when you know you're dying :P Anyway getting taken out from what's, in essence, a NK leaves you much less saltier than if you get lynched or survive till EOG and lose. I just wish Aeleus didn't go out with me, and it begs the question again why was I targeted?
Occam's razor is to get people to assume I did it since you were tunneled on me. Sorry man!

With godfather's death I think it's confirmed that Kopite's silence was supposed to put suspicion on Godfather, seems like a waste if they were targeting him for a kill on the same night

They didn't know I had a verifiable town PR to claim. I'm sure they wanted to lynch me, but I threw a big wrench in their plans.

I wonder if the Vig would have popped me if I hadn't claimed, instead of Lux.
 
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Who did you see targeting you on N1?

I left it as a clue towards day end. Let me find it and I'll post that.

In case I die tonight, aside from the obvious reads I've posted, I'm still wary of Hecht a little bit. Remember this.

Why? Partly cause tunneling grizzly was bad for town. Also, his claim just gives me weird vibes.

So watch him if he continues to vote poorly. He's not confirmed town yet.

For those doubting my claim, I'm not that devious. Glad I didn't have to out another PR, even though I'm not 100% certain they're town either.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I left it as a clue towards day end. Let me find it and I'll post that.

In case I die tonight, aside from the obvious reads I've posted, I'm still wary of Hecht a little bit. Remember this.

Why? Partly cause tunneling grizzly was bad for town. Also, his claim just gives me weird vibes.

So watch him if he continues to vote poorly. He's not confirmed town yet.

For those doubting my claim, I'm not that devious. Glad I didn't have to out another PR, even though I'm not 100% certain they're town either.
Ahhhhhh, ok, yep, in the last line, I see it lol.
 
Ahhhhhh, ok, yep, in the last line, I see it lol.
The two lines before it as well. Look at the first words. =)

Reading breadcrumbs is so embarrasing, I'm so bad at noticing them

Last three paragraphs are the important ones. Other clues I dropped during the day:

I used the word devious multiple times. I town read devious and questioned votes on him for no particular reason. I said it was someone people had town-read and I thought was town.

I can't believe Zipped thinks I mean Kitsune. Townies should never lie, and I've scum read her the whole time.
 
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Fanto

Confirmed Town
Reading breadcrumbs is so embarrasing, I'm so bad at noticing them
Oh yeah, I'm terrible at both spotting them and leaving them lol.

The only time I've ever left a breadcrumb was for a fake role claim idea I had when I was Scum on D1, and oh boy did that ever work out in my favor eventually lol.
 
Y'all are too new to have seen the Star Wars game where I had to protect a player without them knowing it. Turns out they were scum. I spelled out his name(Raindoc) that way early in the game but nobody ever picked up on it.
 
A lot of them are assuming I'd claim if I had a single red check on D2. I probably would not. You have to breadcrumb, and try to lead town the right direction while watching that scum's behavior. If it doesn't happen immediately. Always play this game as if you were vanilla, cause reads and voting are the important parts. You'll never improve by relying on PRs.

Spoiler for what targeted me N1 and N2:

N1: WhySoDevious -
N2 - WeeMadArthur and B-Dubs

You can probably figure out what both of them did if you're paying attention to the thread

I have a lot more to say once more gets spoiled.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
Also lol is that a breadcrumb? I didn't read the end of day because i had like five pages to read before work and skipped the rest once i saw the writing on the wall
 

Z-Beat
Member
27 minutes ago
New #3,904
*Splinter said:
This is a double lynch, that's good for town.
Our track record for actually killing scum ourselves is poor

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B-Dubs
Oh well, what the hell
Administrator
26 minutes ago
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Z-Beat said:
Our track record for actually killing scum ourselves is poor
Yup, both our scum kills have been lucky. Dayvig got one and neglect got the other.

To be fair, I think Lux was on his way out regardless of the Vig, but it still cleared up a lot of confusion to get it done early. Kaz was gonna take a bit more work, since we were ignoring Grizzly on D1. Not many people specifically went back to look at his posts/votes after he died.
 
Also lol is that a breadcrumb? I didn't read the end of day because i had like five pages to read before work and skipped the rest once i saw the writing on the wall

Yeah, not a great one I guess. It might lead town astray in some good and bad ways.

is b-dubs scum? this game is like fuel for me to go back to just yelling at everyone if so

Read this first:
You sure you want to know? I only know the answer for sure because of outside sources. I think there's enough info in the thread to figure it out but I understand if you're not keeping up as much now.

Actual big spoiler for scum/town teams:

Filler filler filler filler. b-dubs is town.
 

flatearthpandas

Round Moon Bears
Yeah, not a great one I guess. It might lead town astray in some good and bad ways.



Read this first:
You sure you want to know? I only know the answer for sure because of outside sources. I think there's enough info in the thread to figure it out but I understand if you're not keeping up as much now.

Actual big spoiler for scum/town teams:

Filler filler filler filler. b-dubs is town.
Damn will have to keep being nice to people

Am planning on catching up on the game but don't mind the spoilers.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
UGH! So hard not to spoil myself more lol.

I'm gunna stay as clean as I can for now though (all I've seen is the N1 target on GF), just because Brazil likes my read lists lol. <3
 

Pedro

The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
hey, i happen to know who's running Mansion, and he told me some stuff about it:

In a previous version, the statue was included in the game's title
 
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