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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Well they can stay that way. Need them to crawl to the finish line so the next game doesn’t start smack dab in the middle of launch week at work. Would be pretty sad to end up not getting to play anything this half season D:
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
So it was just a normal day then
Kalor is acting so super scummy this day phase. First of he's deflecting off of wee with everything he's got. And now he's starting to throw low key shade around. Anyone looking at the room votes should've realized that Stu was heavily influencing the decision for days 2 - 4. Either call him out for good or don't mention it, but this here is scummy scum scum. I'd say wee + Kalor is the team, a lot of people also have saenima on their list. Mhm, after the flips there should be more concrete evidence to look for the rest (and decide on saenima).
*Splinter - cop (looking at his results he didn't bring much to the table, if survival to D6/7, he's scum)
Girlofgotham - green checked? (it's very likely for scum to have a godfather here, I think, so not 100% town)
turmoil7 - sleepwalker, why did I think he's the vig? wasn't there a second sleepwalker?, oh devious claimed it as well
WhySoDevious - visited gf n1, could be scum role cop or sleepw.
going by the great assumption that scum doesn't fakeclaim all game and the above is true to the core, the rest is up in the air. There still is a vig unclaimed. Feels from maybe town to defo scum:
BronsonLee (I don't even know why)
Stuart444 (sth. small to his town presence feels missing, maybe I'm imagining things)
Zippedpinhead | B-Dubs | Kitsunelaine | Muffin | StanleyPalmtree (null, null, null, null, null)
saenima (scapegoat?)
Kalor - suspicious ~ scum? (could be wrong here)
weemadarthur - prolly scum
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Grizzly - D1 vanilla, flatearthpandas - D2 vanilla
Kopite - D2 mason lynch lover, Aeleus - D2 mason lynch lover
Godfather - N2 bp self watcher, Z-Beat - D3 vanilla
Fat4all - N3 2shot pulpit
Hecht - D3 neutral influencer
LuxCommander - D2 scum rb, SaucyKaz - D2 scum bp
3 scum left, they'd need an investigative role, a goon and sth. with the rooms? or as said before godfather to counter a normal cop?
Girlofgotham - green checked? (it's very likely for scum to have a godfather here, I think, so not 100% town)
turmoil7 - sleepwalker, why did I think he's the vig? wasn't there a second sleepwalker?, oh devious claimed it as well
WhySoDevious - visited gf n1, could be scum role cop or sleepw.
going by the great assumption that scum doesn't fakeclaim all game and the above is true to the core, the rest is up in the air. There still is a vig unclaimed. Feels from maybe town to defo scum:
BronsonLee (I don't even know why)
Stuart444 (sth. small to his town presence feels missing, maybe I'm imagining things)
Zippedpinhead | B-Dubs | Kitsunelaine | Muffin | StanleyPalmtree (null, null, null, null, null)
saenima (scapegoat?)
Kalor - suspicious ~ scum? (could be wrong here)
weemadarthur - prolly scum
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Grizzly - D1 vanilla, flatearthpandas - D2 vanilla
Kopite - D2 mason lynch lover, Aeleus - D2 mason lynch lover
Godfather - N2 bp self watcher, Z-Beat - D3 vanilla
Fat4all - N3 2shot pulpit
Hecht - D3 neutral influencer
LuxCommander - D2 scum rb, SaucyKaz - D2 scum bp
3 scum left, they'd need an investigative role, a goon and sth. with the rooms? or as said before godfather to counter a normal cop?
I just had to go and check that, turns out we have never played on the same side together, wow: Gafia 3, Mini Mafia 4 and Marvel Mafia - in the first two I was maf, in the last one you were maf.
We'll play together Natiko,
One day Nat, one day <3
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Fate has been conspiring against us, clearly. I didn’t even remember playing in the mini. I have zero memory of it. Weird lol
I was an Innocent Child and FEP owned us. Remember?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Ok, now I think get why Brazil enjoyed my read lists so much, because that was really fun reading through Gorlak's now that I know the spoilers haha.
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Mansion: I'm thinking they'll probably turbo Weem today, I don't see why they wouldn't. Perhaps let some more discussion take place, but for the most part, there's not much to discuss on a day where someone counter claims a cop in my experience.
Simon: Really looking forward to the day start. It sounds like it's going to be the Thunderdome day based on their discussions. Not sure who Scum will shoot tonight, probably Faddy or Apollo, unless they caught on to Zeke's breadcrumb too, then they might go for him instead.
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Mansion: I'm thinking they'll probably turbo Weem today, I don't see why they wouldn't. Perhaps let some more discussion take place, but for the most part, there's not much to discuss on a day where someone counter claims a cop in my experience.
Simon: Really looking forward to the day start. It sounds like it's going to be the Thunderdome day based on their discussions. Not sure who Scum will shoot tonight, probably Faddy or Apollo, unless they caught on to Zeke's breadcrumb too, then they might go for him instead.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Oh shit, I do remember that now! I made it to the day before lylo, and with my dying breath I said "trust FEP in all scenarios". And they did. And we lost. Whoops lol
:P very much is dependant on flips, if kalor is town I'd be more suspicious about stu for example. Bronson hasn't done anything in particular, turmoils claim was weird (timing) and hinges on splint being true same as gog. Splinters targets leave me with a raised eyebrow.
And I haven't been paying attention to details
And I have skimmed so much
And I'm not even playing
And and ...
Most of the time you're wrong anyway
Now give me some spoilers please :D
Do you think it's a valid strategy at all times?
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Lol, I'll leave that to Brazil, but for now I'll just say:
Your suspicions are, for the most part, in the right place. I think you'd be helping Town out a lot with those reads if you were in the game right now. :)
Yes. Gambits are not needed to win as town. Just be a good townie. If townies are acting scummy and lying, it just helps the actual scum blend in.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Scum has to be within Fran/Salva/Malus at this point, right? Otherwise Swamped or Meatwad maybe?
Also, did you see that breadcrumb from Zeke?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I did not catch it. He could fake it but that seems unlikely. Although having a doctor as well might be too OP so that is a consideration.
I still think it is Fran plus Salva or malus. More likely salvapot.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, there was a read he had on Fran which actually felt like he was just talking to his scummate in the thread and telling him how he was fake reading him at the moment lol.
Also, Fran shifted from kind of soft-defending Malus one day if I remember right to thinking he is Scum now. I would guess they are not trying to bus here, and with Salva also trying to get Malus lynched, yeah, I'd go for those two first I think.
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
also brazil is a moderator. WHY IS HE ABOVE REPROACH AND I'M JUST SHMUCKY THE CLOWN
Hecht
Like dubstep for my bootyhole
Ah, gotcha. I used that one instead of the "Staff" one for that reason, but that makes sense. My bad.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Fran: "Faddy was another town unlynchable? That's crazy. Scum must have some good roles to counter something this OP."
Definitely Not Mad.
I'm not going to comment on balance until I see the full reveal but it does seem townsided.
My role in particular is pretty OP, even more so than Fand's in KH since I could do it after EoD. I said to Grizzly that letting that role self target is too much. I have zero incentive to use it on anyone else or I am giving scum a free kill. I would have had to be 100% on someone, have the game solved in my mind and see town being in a position to lose before using it on anyone else.
Definitely Not Mad.
I'm not going to comment on balance until I see the full reveal but it does seem townsided.
My role in particular is pretty OP, even more so than Fand's in KH since I could do it after EoD. I said to Grizzly that letting that role self target is too much. I have zero incentive to use it on anyone else or I am giving scum a free kill. I would have had to be 100% on someone, have the game solved in my mind and see town being in a position to lose before using it on anyone else.
No problem whatsoever. I enjoy the fire.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Rude! Geno reviewed my game!
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Pedro said:
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On a more serious note, it'll be interesting to see how Town reacts to that flip tomorrow. 3 Mafia and 1 Neutral down so far is pretty damn good for them and they are in a good spot here. Still going to need to put in some work to find the remaining Mafia players though, I think they are playing really well too.
Pedro
The Last Airbender is actually a great movie
Oh my god!!!!!!! This is hilarious xD
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Pretty sure I know who you're talking about, and yeah I'd agree. I do think the remaining scum team has a chance still, they'll need to keep it up for a while though, so it's going to be a hard fought win if they get it. Should be fun to watch!
I went with a longer Night phase this time because the players probably needed a break after this last Day, and because D5 would end up happening entirely during the weekend otherwise. Screw that :lol
I think scum still has a chance. It’ll be a long road until they get there (and I think one of them will have to brave most of it alone), but it can be done.
I think scum still has a chance. It’ll be a long road until they get there (and I think one of them will have to brave most of it alone), but it can be done.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
No Kaz! You did exactly what I told you to!! Be really scummy and annoying and try to draw the vig shot.
Shame bronson was so smrt.
See, my worst problem as scum is that I can’t help but try to solve the game, which makes me out my own teammates because they are so scummy. I tried SO HARD to shuttup in this game but nooooo.
I tried to back off of you on day two when you didn’t push me but you were SO DARNED NOT TOWN what could i do. I did help you get your blue room by arguing against it when everyone hated me. :P
Then I succeeded in my goal for the day phase. XD
:kiss:
My team had a tough start and I ended up pushed since we had to do something. But we have a good plan for the ongoing couple days, so who knows.
God I loved town waiting to turbo me while doing their level best to attach themselves to me.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
We have the right read on the doc, yeah?
If so, thanks for signing your own death warrant by protecting me. <3
If so, thanks for signing your own death warrant by protecting me. <3
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Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think both scum teams between the games are each basically hinging on one player to carry them to the finish. Skeptical either one will pan out, though I would favor Simon’s scum team I think if I had to bet.
Fireblend
ABLF
It was kinda hilarious how they kept falling over themselves defending you/coming up with alternative pushes :P
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
sorry Aeleus.
If it helps, my reads are also just reads. I haven’t been spoiled in the same mannner as some.
If it helps, my reads are also just reads. I haven’t been spoiled in the same mannner as some.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Right, who woulda guessed?
Spoiler for others about who targeted me N2.
Weemadarthur killed me N2. B-dubs is a doc who also protected me N2.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I loled then I read the thread and got sad.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
It does look like it's going to be more of an uphill battle for him than it probably should be. I'm surprised that no one else's process of elimination seems to be landing on Fran/Salva as hard as mine, your's, and Chugg's are.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Was flavor added?
I find myself hoping the teal room is actually a counterpart to the double lynch room and results in No Lynch rather than no night kill.....which i think is what the majority are hoping for....
I find myself hoping the teal room is actually a counterpart to the double lynch room and results in No Lynch rather than no night kill.....which i think is what the majority are hoping for....
cabot
Why.
Has anyone's hair ever won a mafia game?
my hair did all the work during Anime mafia, so yes.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Fran/Malus or else Fran/Swamped. That's how I'm seeing it.
If Fran is somehow Town here, then I would not think it is Swamped/Malus because Swamped has been voting for Malus for a while.
Meatwad is a possibility. Swamped/Meatwad or Meatwad/Malus makes sense if Fran is somehow Town I think.
If Fran is somehow Town here, then I would not think it is Swamped/Malus because Swamped has been voting for Malus for a while.
Meatwad is a possibility. Swamped/Meatwad or Meatwad/Malus makes sense if Fran is somehow Town I think.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
They were brought up, but barely. I think Chugg said once "Faddy made a good case against Fran" and Exodus brought up your point about Fran thinking you were a Neutral for lying about your role and that being a perspective slip. No one quoted you though I don't think.
It's a running theme. People don't bring up (seriously) peoples past posts.
If they do, it's a quick post and then promptly forgotten about again.
Also Fanto, I also think Fran is scum so if he's town, we're both bad at this game :(
If they do, it's a quick post and then promptly forgotten about again.
Also Fanto, I also think Fran is scum so if he's town, we're both bad at this game :(
I will also be really surprised if Chuggs is scum, just from what I've read of the game.
That's pretty much what happened.
I had a plan for D3 that involved me tagging you before anyone else could, but it didn't work out.
We're tied together by the red string of fate.
Did you consider self-targeting? That would’ve been an amazing move, but what you did wasn’t wrong either. They could’ve fallen for a WIFOM there.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I think it's certainly more likely than Mansion scum winning. Simon looked like Town could maybe pull it out 24 hours ago, but now..? Dunno.
I literally had a PM all typed up changing my target last night.
Oh man :(
Verelios
Were-elios
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I shouldn't laugh, but I did.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Dubs had no real reason to suspect scum knew his identity.
*shrug*
*shrug*
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Sure, but scum’s strong killer is dead and simply via the inclusion of a strong kill you can usually assume there’s a doctor. It’s not completely out of the realm of possibility for scum to explicitly not target the cop due to a likely block, so it wouldn’t have been a crazy call for B-Dubs to self protect even not knowing scum knew his identity. That being said protecting the cop is never a bad choice either lol
Caught up on the game so here are my general feelings, point and laugh for I am a fool.
Scum reads:
Muffin: Don't like his interactions with weemadarthur and I kind of think he's coasting but I'm generally wrong about scum coasts so he's town :(
Stuart444: I don't know really but something feels off, I can't help but feel scum must have a player which has really tried to shape discussion (basically a gut read)
Kalor: I BUY HIS CLAIM BUT HE LET ME DIE, BURN SCUM, BURN!!!!! (well played on the lux kill :D )
Null Reads:
Zippedpinhead: Why do I still null read zipped? Why!!!!
Kitsunelaine: I've felt scum vibes from her the whole game but it appears to be her playstyle, in terms of her posts seems pretty middle of the road but I don't feel like she's coasting
Town reads:
Saenima: Initially thought he was trying to solve the game but as the game's gone on I'm liking his posts less and less, still a town read but closest to null
WhySoDevious: I believe their claim and feel really bad about them not knowing about what the game was on D1, will be a little peeved if it was a lie >:(
*Splinter: I believe the claim 100% right now but if he survives two more nights that changes dramatically (unlikely but could have got the bp, scum will attack him anyway)
GirlOfGotham: Given scum have an investigative role and the vote remover I don't buy the godfather theory, whether a scum *Splinter would fake a check on a teammate is WIFOM but I'd imagine not) she has been generally quite towny in her posts as well
Turmoil7: Post-mortem I've generally agreed with most of his reads and the claim seems really sound, a strong town read, they've also been green checked by Splinter which I hadn't realised which also helps I guess
BronsonLee: Bronson is a beautiful muppet (is that what he is?) and while I believe he is very wrong about everything, I'll take my townread of him to the grave
Additional thoughts:
I think the scum investigative role is a scum lookout, would explain town having two sleepwalkers
Scum might have another member or the vote removal role might have loads of other stuff in their kit otherwise I feel bad for scum, seems like there's too much immunity for them to deal with especially if their strong killer had died earlier
I understand the logic behind Kalor claiming now but if *Splinter is scum isn't claiming before he puts out his result handing a disadvantage to town?
While neither of my scum reads are really being looked at I still feel that town can quite easily pull through, especially if they get lucky with some bps
I've got no idea what's happening in Simon but I'll just agree with the majority and say Fran is scum :)
Scum reads:
Muffin: Don't like his interactions with weemadarthur and I kind of think he's coasting but I'm generally wrong about scum coasts so he's town :(
Stuart444: I don't know really but something feels off, I can't help but feel scum must have a player which has really tried to shape discussion (basically a gut read)
Kalor: I BUY HIS CLAIM BUT HE LET ME DIE, BURN SCUM, BURN!!!!! (well played on the lux kill :D )
Null Reads:
Zippedpinhead: Why do I still null read zipped? Why!!!!
Kitsunelaine: I've felt scum vibes from her the whole game but it appears to be her playstyle, in terms of her posts seems pretty middle of the road but I don't feel like she's coasting
Town reads:
Saenima: Initially thought he was trying to solve the game but as the game's gone on I'm liking his posts less and less, still a town read but closest to null
WhySoDevious: I believe their claim and feel really bad about them not knowing about what the game was on D1, will be a little peeved if it was a lie >:(
*Splinter: I believe the claim 100% right now but if he survives two more nights that changes dramatically (unlikely but could have got the bp, scum will attack him anyway)
GirlOfGotham: Given scum have an investigative role and the vote remover I don't buy the godfather theory, whether a scum *Splinter would fake a check on a teammate is WIFOM but I'd imagine not) she has been generally quite towny in her posts as well
Turmoil7: Post-mortem I've generally agreed with most of his reads and the claim seems really sound, a strong town read, they've also been green checked by Splinter which I hadn't realised which also helps I guess
BronsonLee: Bronson is a beautiful muppet (is that what he is?) and while I believe he is very wrong about everything, I'll take my townread of him to the grave
Additional thoughts:
I think the scum investigative role is a scum lookout, would explain town having two sleepwalkers
Scum might have another member or the vote removal role might have loads of other stuff in their kit otherwise I feel bad for scum, seems like there's too much immunity for them to deal with especially if their strong killer had died earlier
I understand the logic behind Kalor claiming now but if *Splinter is scum isn't claiming before he puts out his result handing a disadvantage to town?
While neither of my scum reads are really being looked at I still feel that town can quite easily pull through, especially if they get lucky with some bps
I've got no idea what's happening in Simon but I'll just agree with the majority and say Fran is scum :)
Kalor is claiming night + day vig
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Kopite
Quickdraw King
^ Btw Fanto I decided to get Life is Strange 1 on sale. Didn't have an interest in it previously ( I still know nothing about it but I think I'll enjoy it more going in blind) but your very obvious fandom made me curious to check it out. Maybe I'll join LiS Mafia :)
Just noticed that lel
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I figured you guys knew most of the game, I wasn't exactly hiding it well.