Spectator Thread 999 and Mini Mafia V Spectator Thread
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saenima
Not Aeleus
Oh damn I'm really sorry to hear this Kits. Such a terrible, terrible thing to have to experience from up close.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Some good #Content at EoD there.
Roman: "I'm Scum."
Franklin: *Acts Scummy*
Town: "Roman must be the SK."
Franklin: *Continues to act Scummy*
Huang: "..."
Franklin: *Acts Scummy*
Town: "Roman must be the SK."
Franklin: *Continues to act Scummy*
Huang: "..."
Yeah like I said, I don't actually think there was anything wrong with the play, just that it isn't really comparable to what Kits did as Niko since she wasn't pretending to be another player. Otherwise, it just weirded me out and I wasn't really a fan of it.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
You should probably avoid specing any future costume game Brazil does - that was like his whole shtick in PR. It sucks you felt uncomfortable, I’m sure that didn’t really help matters.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Whaddup.
I was Roman, everyone act surprised
I was Roman, everyone act surprised
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
So me and Franklin were both pretty annoyed by today, we started the phase is a pretty great position but through basically no fault of our own nor any particular cleverness on towns part we pretty much had the rug pulled out from under us and there was shit all we could do about it.
And if i understood franklins math right its pretty much only because of a ridiculously lucky roll for them getting Masons.
And if i understood franklins math right its pretty much only because of a ridiculously lucky roll for them getting Masons.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
I wont say we handled things perfectly after that, far from it really, and ill admit there may be parts of the situation im missing, but at least from our perspective this hardly turned out fair.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
So, tomorrow is 2-1-1, assuming that both the SK and Mafia shoot a different Townie. That is like an automatic Town loss, correct?
Other possibilities would be shooting the same Townie, SK shooting Mafia, or Mafia hitting the SK's BP vest. These would all still give Town a chance, but seem unlikely to me, except maybe hitting the same Townie.
I would guess that Mafia and SK do what Stan said in the thread and team up to take out the Masons, since they can't just let one die. Up to the SK though.
Other possibilities would be shooting the same Townie, SK shooting Mafia, or Mafia hitting the SK's BP vest. These would all still give Town a chance, but seem unlikely to me, except maybe hitting the same Townie.
I would guess that Mafia and SK do what Stan said in the thread and team up to take out the Masons, since they can't just let one die. Up to the SK though.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Couple that withe the RL things that got in the way and i was pretty screwed in the resulting thunderdome.
Man i was an inch away from replacing out on Friday, i only barely held on because it felt to shitty to have someone need to replace into what was likely certain death.
I felt a lot better on Saturday but only really enough to keep up with the thread and not an inch more than that.
I was maybe a bit too full on with claude today as i can see how things must have looked to him but god damn did it feel rough to have someone kind of but not really using real life interference (especially fridays) against me in a way i couldnt really defend.
Man i was an inch away from replacing out on Friday, i only barely held on because it felt to shitty to have someone need to replace into what was likely certain death.
I felt a lot better on Saturday but only really enough to keep up with the thread and not an inch more than that.
I was maybe a bit too full on with claude today as i can see how things must have looked to him but god damn did it feel rough to have someone kind of but not really using real life interference (especially fridays) against me in a way i couldnt really defend.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
At least that last chunk of the day was fun.
IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE!!
IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE!!
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, well, our Cop basically told us to go fuck ourselves. :P
That being said, the mass claim definitely didn't help you guys out, but it was about the only card we had left after one of our most valuable PRs peaced out on us. Catalina said in Mason chat that night that it was what she wanted to do the most after that, and yep, the plan caught Scum in a lie. Sorry that you were that Scum, but it is what it is.
Just for a note on Semi/Open Setups, I do kind of agree that I don't like how it can devolve into mass claims and just mechanically solving things where Town doesn't even need to really do all that much to find each other. That's just not as fun to me. I felt like that was basically how we figured out Gif Mafia too, the PRs claimed on D2 and we could have easily won on the same day, but instead I fucked up and we just finished it the next day instead.
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
The cop thing kinda proves my point, that was the judgement and action of a player that caused it, here there was just a mass claim and the open setup nature did the rest of the work to put us in such a bad spot.
If we had been exposed by a townie PR like a cop then thats fine, it wpuld have been a good call on the players part.
Town got a freaking Blue Shell is what im saying
If we had been exposed by a townie PR like a cop then thats fine, it wpuld have been a good call on the players part.
Town got a freaking Blue Shell is what im saying
Stantastic
Our Badminton Stanpion
Maybe im more just annoyed because chance played such a roll in it.
Just ask anyone in our D&D group,
Dice do not like me.
Just ask anyone in our D&D group,
Dice do not like me.
Okay so I think Fireblend won't mind me saying this but basically.
When Fireblend was explaining his mini mafia generator to me, he used a test seed to show me how it works.
But that seed just happened to give us a great selection of roles so we kept it. It was just luck really. (I really wanted a Serial Killer role XD and it gave us one along with a cop, a doctor, even freaking masons, haha so we kept it.
We can't really control what the players do with the information though so it is what it is I guess.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
So it's a 2-1-1? Rough. I'll root for the SK just because that's a well earned win if they get it.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Yeah, big hugs for everyone after this one, both players and gamerunners. It was a rough one, I have huge respect for everyone that made it through those last couple days.
Also, I really hope our new players don't get scared away after this game because they did great. I hope they decide to sign up for another one, perhaps one that isn't quite as strange as this one was conceptually lol.
Also, I really hope our new players don't get scared away after this game because they did great. I hope they decide to sign up for another one, perhaps one that isn't quite as strange as this one was conceptually lol.
Can't really agree on the "you did great" part, but seeing how it ended I think I would have screwed it up even more if I survived... so it's ok lol.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Nah, you did fine, we fucked up by switching the vote to you.
Costumes were strange to me, our Cop claiming as Scum and suiciding was pretty strange, Scum claiming as Scum on the next day was strange, and now it's in a 2-1-1 with Town/SK/Mafia with the SK claiming as the SK.
And this is "completely standard"?
...I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but idk man, this game just felt weird compared to others.
I mean, players doing sub optimal things doesn’t really mean much (though the SK claiming right now is probably the correct move if he knows he can’t be night killed which seems to be the case). Nothing was wrong with the set up and costumes don’t really change anything fundamental. So yeah, I’d say standard.
Been one crazy crazy read.
No lynch was your best shot honestly.
The BP still being in play and the SK being convinced of who scum was allowed them to set it up pretty well.
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
I asked this before in the game thread but does the neutral get notified of losing his BP? Because if not, with the info I had, I don't see how no lynch was the better option. If I know BP is still there, sure. If not, and the SK doesn't either, no lynch just leads to a revenge kill from the SK.
This, I actually don't know. the SK description just says pick investigative immune or BP.
We probably would have discussed it if it happened after actions locked.
Least fun game for me since Volcano Island, I think. Not enough time to deal with low posters, way too many PRs, fucking math, etc. The costume part only bothered me in that I literally could not tell people apart cause I realize I see profile pics more than I do names when scanning threads. I did not try to hide who I was at all.
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
True, but Huang had figured Franklin out and I was also rather sure that Franklin was the last scum.
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
And from what was said earlier in the game thread and what I'm reading in the scum chat, yes, would have been better for town to get the SK yesterday.
Thing is, town doesn't know who is mafia and just because you know Roman was truly mafia because you're his teammate that doesn't make town dumb for lynching him. He was a surefire lynch versus crunchtime finding the SK between three people. And him just lying was also possible.
Thing is, town doesn't know who is mafia and just because you know Roman was truly mafia because you're his teammate that doesn't make town dumb for lynching him. He was a surefire lynch versus crunchtime finding the SK between three people. And him just lying was also possible.
On that note, I did grin when you said "I respect bold neutral play"
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
It's the most enjoyable thing if you're a neutral so I had to comment like that :P
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
You cannot be serious.
Hi buddy. =)
They are supposed to be notified of BP being hit from my understanding, also I still stand that SK beats Mafia in a 1v1, the wiki doesn’t seem to address that for this game but that tends to be how it is handled to mitigate SK’s lower % chance to win.
I did as much as I could to stop town from throwing the game away there without also just claiming. People are so irrational about scum vs hostile third parties in our community, usually to their detriment.
Don't get me wrong, you guys played it perfectly. It's just from our perspective, there were only 3 unknowns left when we claimed, and literally anything but MM would have been fine. It was a calculated risk precisely cause VT is the safe claim, and I knew the odds of there being a mason at that point were incredibly low. It just ending up feeling like nothing in the game mattered except that one d100 roll, and we rolled a fucking 1.
I never expected a double target on Lance N1. WHo was that?
Muffin
Born with a heart full of neutrality
I'll defend excluding Roman to my grave if need be, it wasn't a situation like with Stuart for example in a recent game at all. Chances of him being lying SK were high and between lynching SK/Mafia and figuring out the SK out of three claimed vanillas with barely any time left it's obvious what the choice is.
