Scum Thread Dharkon's Minions
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Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
I'm not Christian and most of my mythology knowledge comes from SMT but IIRC "morning Star" is typically associated with Jesus and would therefore be able to kill Dracula
It is usually the weapon used by the protagonists in castlevania to hunt vampires and not vice-versa but I doubt it kills him since it's not like a holy relic or anything. I doubt Geno was fancy with this, it's from his series, it must be for him.
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yolo
GIVE: Morning Star, Fran
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yolo
GIVE: Morning Star, Fran
I don't see the harm of you trying it too, we'll have to wait for tonight though. Also, I just looked up Gill because I didn't remember any of his backstory. I doubt it's your item because a morning star itself isn't really holy in anyway, it was just a common weapon at the time of the crusades and Gill doesn't use weapons. That said, I didn't realize illuminati is actual street fighter shit from Gill. I thought Geno just pulled a random faction name, now I'm even more confused.
You're welcome Fran :P
Is there a huge objection to us throwing the chaos emerald away at this point? We can send it to Loki and pretend it was from me. Hopefully Loki screws it up and gets confused right away and I can tell her she should have stayed quiet, then no one will try and steal from me. Fran can claim stolen from tomorrow and commute if he's really worried.
That vig shot could be an interesting way to gain some favor too. I'd use it sometime before day end tomorrow and narrow the thunderdome or kill Maol for consistency.
Is there a huge objection to us throwing the chaos emerald away at this point? We can send it to Loki and pretend it was from me. Hopefully Loki screws it up and gets confused right away and I can tell her she should have stayed quiet, then no one will try and steal from me. Fran can claim stolen from tomorrow and commute if he's really worried.
That vig shot could be an interesting way to gain some favor too. I'd use it sometime before day end tomorrow and narrow the thunderdome or kill Maol for consistency.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
Fran used his Commute last night, though I doubt he's gonna get targeted again. I'm in favor of chucking the Emerald. Gives are anonymous, right
I'm not gonna have internet for a bit, is it worth using my time to type up a roleclaim for Nash checking Illuminati to post later? or is that too much Investigator?
I'm not gonna have internet for a bit, is it worth using my time to type up a roleclaim for Nash checking Illuminati to post later? or is that too much Investigator?
Probably too much investigator, you'd actually be more believable since you are such a narrow investigator but honestly, you aren't really under the scope yet and Fran can shoot Ket publicly if he wants to.
And yes, gives are anonymous.
And yes, gives are anonymous.
From a real perspective, right now you have a maybe red check on Ket because you don't know what illuminati means. And a green check on muffin. Ket is only behind by one vote right now so there's still a decent chance she gets lynched without you interfering and a real cop would prefer that because then you didn't have to reveal yourself and can keep working without fear of being messed with. I'd still say the only reason you claim today is if Ket completely falls by the wayside and you'd probably do it like 3-4 hours before day end. If Fran wants to participate in a gambit with you, you could claim around then and Fran could shoot her shortly after BUT Fran would theoretically have had this vig shot the whole time so he really should shoot Kalor since that was the first red check. That's my two cents on how this all looks from the town perspective.
Now I don't owe you anything. The contract has been completed.
Franconp
Frank
No. We already know 2 of the items that are around and those aren't our. Also I have 2 steals. But I'm busy today so I won't be around much. Tomorrow I will be around all day.
Also I wouldn't claim illuminati cop. We are not 100% sure that Ketkat is illuminati, Apho could have been blocked N1 or maybe she was untargeteable. We have a good lead but not certainty. If Apho claims cop and she doesn't flip Illuminaty he will be in trouble. I would save that as a last resort.
Also I wouldn't claim illuminati cop. We are not 100% sure that Ketkat is illuminati, Apho could have been blocked N1 or maybe she was untargeteable. We have a good lead but not certainty. If Apho claims cop and she doesn't flip Illuminaty he will be in trouble. I would save that as a last resort.
This is a very good call actually.
Just so everyone remembers what page we are on.
Apop won the chi-blade
Fran won the Morning Star (won his own item, you might need to get clever with what it gave you, maybe turned you from a night vig to a day or night vig?)
I won the chaos emerald.
Apop won the chi-blade
Fran won the Morning Star (won his own item, you might need to get clever with what it gave you, maybe turned you from a night vig to a day or night vig?)
I won the chaos emerald.
Meh, it doesn't matter since neither are with us. If anything, most people would wifom in the direction of "scum would never all vote together!!!!!"
Franconp
Frank
Regarding the vig I think that I prefer using it during the night phase. Maybe one of the odds nights.
I already think that I was targeted last night. I could claim untargeteable or some Joat.
If I use it during the day I have to target a scummy player and I have to create a lie. Using it during the night I can target a townie or someone with items.
I already think that I was targeted last night. I could claim untargeteable or some Joat.
If I use it during the day I have to target a scummy player and I have to create a lie. Using it during the night I can target a townie or someone with items.
I don't think anyone targeted you last night. The only one who might have was AB but he went for Fanto instead. I only say to do it during the day because then it lets you have a free provable claim but it makes less sense as time goes on since you've had a red check you could have hit at any point as well as this whole thunder dome situation where you could have shot L_P or Maol who a lot of people have been wishing they could vote for.
All that said, you should use the shot tonight at the latest (or commute if we really think we should save it) because you are known to have an item and it would be a real waste if someone stole from you and we miss out on the free kill.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
dude if you were shot you were shot by scum
Scum won't counterclaim you and say they tried to shoot you, especially if you're provably a vig. They'll think it's weird you were doc'd
Imo it might be good to shoot Kalor just for town points, but run it by Sorian. It can probably wait till tomorrow
Wasting a day lynching him is probably the smarter move. Fran is pretty well read all around, I don't think he needs a solid provable claim right now since there's no heat to remove. He'll need a claim at some point but I don't think it's super important now.
Get Ket lynched today, kill Fando tonight, between the two of them, illuminati has to flip, lynch Kalor tomorrow but during discussion someone "notice" Fando and loki signaling to each other. We can be clear for so many days in a row.
Franconp
Frank
I missed that one. The only thing that I find weird is why all this secret codes. That would mean that they can't talk between themselves.
Someone is a secret partner I assume, I'm doubting cult now. Or if cult, they have only specific people they can recruit.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
cult doesn't necessarily have a chat?
Assuming Ket is illuminati, Fando is on the opposing wagon, Kits still reads to me like easy patsy but her vote just keeps going up and up and I have to wonder if this is a small cult or a bigger scum team and if so, who else is on here protecting Ket.
They would definitely have a chat assuming they are fully recruited. Potential cult members/secret partners wouldn't be in the chat though which is why its notable that loki and Fando are talking in code.
Dr. Worm
Has a PHD in Worms
Tbh I wouldn't have Fran move off her at this point because it'll look hella sus, even if there's nothing there and she flips cop
Franconp
Frank
I will move it when we are closer to the deadline.
The Tearable wagon is still not dead and it will look suspicious if I move my vote now.
He's on Tearable, not Kits. It's going to collapse soon so he has an opening to go wherever really.
General worry that she is lying about her shots like AB did
Ket is a faction and Kits just seemed like the easier play since Tearable has been losing steam slowly since yesterday
Tearable and Ket are both the faction and lol
Those would be the main 3 to me.
Franconp
Frank
You are right. This should help you.
I think we should kill Fando and Ket. Thanos sounds like a neutral who might have a BP though but I think it's worth the try.
Ok, so I was going to ask at some point during the day phase but I felt dumb and maybe I'm still dumb. Kits kept saying she was doing Giant Robo all through that day phase, does that actually mean something or was she trying to soft she was a robot?
Franconp
Frank
That would mean that we won't be able to use any other ability besides my vig and Apho's factional kill.
Franconp
Frank
No idea, sounded RL.
That's fine. I think you have to vig tonight anyway, like I said, you losing your item would remove 1 shot from all your abilities and the vig shot so using all those "free" things asap is very important because then your item is useless and if something happens to it, whatever. I think the vig shot is the most important free thing on there just to cut through this game a bit since our even night counter parts are sucking at this.
Killing illuminaties is our work, when they are gone, we get another extra kill. Doing that as soon as possible only helps us, town has enough to be worried about. We also still aren't even sure Ket is illuminati or what that means and we at least want an illuminati flip to add confusion to the day phases that isn't about us. If anything, I think it should be Fando and maybe someone else since we can be more sure Fando is illuminati since he clearly signaled back to Loki. I still think the both of them are our best bet though, I don't think someone used the mind stone and that's their only power unless she is just Vision.
There is a 0% chance Ket is lynched tomorrow. Kalor still has a red check, L_P, Tearable, and Maol are still all topics of discussion. Hell, Faddy and I have better odds of being lynched than Ket. She used an override, most would assume that is a town verification and call it a day.
It could just be vision though
At the end of the day, that's just flavor though and override is the real command she used and override has been town like 95% of the time in this community.
She did it in the towniest way possible though, she let everyone have their vote and just used it at the last moment to guarantee no tie or her own death. I don't think she gets pushed heavily for awhile on anything except for maybe flavor.
Franconp
Frank
I also think that she won't be in trouble for a while. Kalor is the next lynch and after him are several candidates before Ketkat.
I wouldn't target Ketkat tonight. Even if she Is illuminati it seems that she has used her role already. If we want to kill illuminati I would target Fando or Loki. Also we could start killing the confirmed or semi confirmed townies. Wee, Aeleus, Chuggs, etc.
Chuggs will be +1 tomorrow. Sorian still have 2 shots so we can wait for another day.
I wouldn't target Ketkat tonight. Even if she Is illuminati it seems that she has used her role already. If we want to kill illuminati I would target Fando or Loki. Also we could start killing the confirmed or semi confirmed townies. Wee, Aeleus, Chuggs, etc.
Chuggs will be +1 tomorrow. Sorian still have 2 shots so we can wait for another day.
I still wouldn't touch Loki, if someone is a doctor who can't target the same on each night then they protected Loki N1 and would be able to protect her again. We know something is up with Loki, average townie still thinks Loki is an innocent child. I think Fando is at least agreement as one of the kills?
If we don't do Ket, I'd rather do someone more confirmed like Wee or Aeleus. Stu's votes only really seem townie with the only scum team being forces of light, when more factions are revealed, he loses those easy town reads.
Maybe? With normal doctor rules of having to be a different players two nights in a row, the obvious decisions were Loki N1, a town read N2, and now N3 Loki is open again and Wee is a hard green check, I'd do Loki myself because Wee could be a godfather and Loki doesn't have that issue but it's kind of a crap shoot.
Eh, I believe Wee well enough that she didn't create it. The PR getting killed is really an after thought here. All we really need to care about is cops and doctors, I think we've seen the million cops already so I'm less worried there and nothing has indicated doc yet so that would all just be a guess.
I think I'm technically ninja no matter what I do so my vote thing is hidden too but otherwise, yes, this looks right.
Franconp
Frank
Besides that Apho gets an extra shot if we take out the illuminaties and you get an extra shot if there are 13 towns and 7 scum.
I don't think tha we will be able to get Sorian's extra shot with 2 scum already dead and Kalor being the next lynch (if he is scum). So let's aim for Apho's extra shot.
Let's kill Ketkat and Fando. I would like to hit an illuminati quick so we know what we are dealing with.
I don't think tha we will be able to get Sorian's extra shot with 2 scum already dead and Kalor being the next lynch (if he is scum). So let's aim for Apho's extra shot.
Let's kill Ketkat and Fando. I would like to hit an illuminati quick so we know what we are dealing with.