it's true, you typically live to Day 6 on averageFYI I average 60 posts a game.
Ooohh, nice.All this Nation talk is gonna bite some people later on :x
I am not. I almost want to full claim and blow peoples' minds, but I'm not going to.
Which nin post are you referring to?RIP me. I was surprised with a few of the votes at the end. But I didn't see any votes go on Stan which is probably means nothing.
I'm not confident in any of my reads. But if Fran is scum I am going to be annoyed.
Am I an idiot for thinking Nin claimed seer in like his 2nd post. No way that was just a typo.
Those final reads on Stan and Turmoil came off pretty definite lolRIP me. I was surprised with a few of the votes at the end. But I didn't see any votes go on Stan which is probably means nothing.
I'm not confident in any of my reads. But if Fran is scum I am going to be annoyed.
Am I an idiot for thinking Nin claimed seer in like his 2nd post. No way that was just a typo.
Those final reads on Stan and Turmoil came off pretty definite lol
GG Faddy, surprised you were the D1 lunch like that; got zero scum vibes from you. Wouldn’t be surprised if scum had a stake in this due to that.
Which nin post are you referring to?
Oh yeah this.
nin said something like "did you seer the last game"
Now maybe that is just a typo but I get super paranoid over people just dropping huge breadcrumbs like that.
okay now youre just making shit up to see if we believe it
that one is a Shakespearean allusion lol
Put it on my tombstone.Fanto was probably killed because he was townread.
She is likely Scum here, actually. I may have just mentioned above that she's my top Town read, but don't let that fool you, she can still be Scum here.The sentiment yesterday gave me the impression that people are more or less always paranoid of monkey because she has a wide scum range.
I thought that might be the case. If it won't spoil anything, what was Katara's PR originally?An unfortunate consequence of making the game smaller, AB. Though it kinda worked out in our favor considering the conversations happening right now lol
FWIW, I legit felt bad about voting you. No one was going to trim Nin with me and I fully thought that the Stan train was pure BS.And RIP absolutbro I guess even though he completely betrayed me.
Nah, I'm pretty sure he's Town at this point, I liked Fowl's read on that situation.Of course, knowing my luck Stan is in fact scum and I fully fucked town over D1.
I thought that might be the case. If it won't spoil anything, what was Katara's PR originally?
Scum doesn't trust me and Faddy together on Town, look what happened last game while we were both alive! :PDr. Monkey said:I think it gets real obvious real fast why Fanto and Faddy are dead. It's super quiet.
Dr. Monkey said:But if we assume Fanto is the factional kill (and I'm really not sure but I'll post some musing thoughts on that later, just for fun since who knows), then with Faddy gone - who's going to do vote analysis - and Fanto gone, who will as well - there are fewer people here who are going to scrutinize the wagons so heavily.
Dr. Monkey said:Unless they have a strong kill, I struggle to see scum going after Fanto, who I'm surprised wasn't protected. It would have been likely him. Fanto and fowl were most townread and I would think a doc would choose Fanto over fowl, but I guess that didn't happen. But I don't know if scum would risk that kill without a strong.
Monkey just over here flattering me, but no, I was likely the target because a Doctor would have been protecting Fowl or you, Monkey, not me lol.Dr. Monkey said:Probably it was just a strong kill that got Fanto.
fowl playa said:it's fitting that you called these mafia observations because they look more like they came from mafia POV than town POV
This is my playstyle as well. I always start by figuring out who my current Town reads are because it makes it easier for me to figure out who I want to prioritize from the remaining pile.fowl playa said:I've been agreeing with Monkey a lot but it just looks like we have similar playstyles. I'm mostly focused on creating a strong town core and lynching everyone who is not in that town core, prioritizing the targets I feel are scummiest first. I've stopped posting most of my townreads today because I just don't want them to die because two people are getting picked off per night, but she posted hers and that is generally what I do when I'm trying to solve the game. It's, imo, the smart way to play because reduces guess work since we have a foundation to start with, and it is much easier to find a fellow town than it is to find a scum.
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The Avatar has entered the Avatar State
Come on Aang, your Avatar state does nothing? Why does it have some fancy mod message then?
y...yes??Did they really let Turmoil get away with this?
You're all good malus.I should have taken that break I was talking about before the game. I was completely disengaged and not really motivated to play at all. Monkey is town for sure and I probably just saved scum, so I also managed to ruin it for everyone on my team.
Sorry to all I have disappointed, I will probably not play in any game for a while.
Oof, good luck in there Vere lol.Sawneeks said:[He/Him] Verelios - UTC-5 has replaced turmoil7
Natiko said:No, I have not read except small bits and pieces. I wanted to wait to make sure I didn't get Gorlak'd
The bold prediction is that Natiko is Town and Scum are so fearful of him entering the game that they just shoot him immediately, like Scum did to Gorlak in GoT lol. :P
Blatantly admitting to not reading every post!Z-Beat said:I didn't see it. Ya gotta direct reply or mention me.
WHO TOLD YOU ALL THE SCUM FLAVOR NAMES. SPILL..
fowl, The Boulder was not a "bad" person, per se. Certainly not on the level of Azula or Ozai or that Dai-Li guy
If you hadn't of been killed you coulda really helped out there. Think once one scum falls they can easily catch the others.Was it a bad move pushing away from turmoil? I'm a tracker I can verify his claim or catch him red-handed?
malus just looked exactly like me when I'm Scum with nothing to talk about because I know too much.
Thought i got to this earlier but guess not. :xAlso we need to talk about how signing up for a game is a commitment and doing so and then dropping without some unexpected real life shit is disrespectful of the game and the community imo.
(this especially means loc is excused)
Vote: VereliosVerelios said:I'd say everyone on your list sans Stan because of his time zone is a pretty big poster. You don't think that factors into your thought process?
She's been saying all day I think that she doesn't have much time, she just seems like busy Monkey who hasn't had time to do her usual thing yet today. She's been "solving" all game so far imo.Feel like we've hit the point with Monkey's meta that anything she does now is 'not solving/pointing fingers/asking questions' and thus means she is scum. It feels like the bar has been set super high for her to hit it and, i dont know, it feels weird.
Is she really not solving this time around? To me it looks like she is.
I'm sort of on both sides (lol) of this argument.Feel like we've hit the point with Monkey's meta that anything she does now is 'not solving/pointing fingers/asking questions' and thus means she is scum. It feels like the bar has been set super high for her to hit it and, i dont know, it feels weird.
Is she really not solving this time around? To me it looks like she is.
Heh, Cherry in this environment would be a lot of fun to see. If I played more often and could pull that off even half as well as she could I would try for it.I'm sort of on both sides (lol) of this argument.
1. I absolutely loathe meta arguments. I know that's slightly hypocritical since even in this game I've explained some things as meta (see: Faddy throwing out ideas as hard facts), but does anyone remember Cherry who would change their entire playstyle each game? I feel like heads would explode if she was still around, since people lean on meta so, so hard. Meta "so and so would be doing ___________" arguments are frustrating because there's no real defense against them. "Town Bro usually does _____" quick hint: I dont have separate play styles for town and scum. No one really does.
2. Granted I havent read over the last page or two of the game thread, but start of day that I died made me really scumread Monkey. I'm probably 100% wrong though.
3. Turmoil is still scum, and town just going 'oh, you're a weak doctor? okay, moving on' is just ... get it together town!
This is what I would be arguing in there, but from what I read I was seeing multiple people still treating the 50% Doctor claim as being worthy of considering as real, so...???If she is scummy because of them then why not flip them first? Especially Turm/Vere. Hell, it seems like almost everyone agrees against Turm/Vere??????
Right. And him flipping Town, plus a protective PR at that, would seriously hurt.This is what I would be arguing in there, but from what I read I was seeing multiple people still treating the 50% Doctor claim as being worthy of considering as real, so...???
Turm/Vere was the flip that should have happened yesterday, and now they are trying to talk themselves out of it today. My guess is that Town is starting to go into ultra-anxiety mode since they still haven't hit Scum and the numbers are (probably) going to start getting dire after today if they hit Town again, so they are worried that taking out an "easy" target like Turm/Vere today, and them flipping Town, will doom them for the rest of the game.
I'm also skimming and not totally caught up on the thread, so that's just my guess based on what I did read lol. :P
Exactly, there are perfectly good cases still from before his claim, and the claim itself is a classic Scum claim. And even though I always say this, I think this is classic Scum Vere running around in there as well from what I've read, I just don't think anyone is calling him out for it.But this still doesn't disregard all of the evidence against him that didn't go away. Plus I think Salva said it but it's a common scum tactic to claim a PR near Day End to either bring out a real claim or to live. His claim fit that bill.
You know what I'm saying here. Don't be obtuse. Doctors don't usually yell YOLO LOL I'M VOTING FOR FUN CHAOS FUCK YEAH
Oh my gooooooooddddd, I love this so much! Yes, hard defend Monkey! Call out the people who are saying she's playing sloppily, of all fucking people lol.The level of scrutiny Monkey has been up to in this thread is 100x higher than every other player in the game. She's playing "sloppy for her pedigree". So what? It's a hard game. There are a lot of null and uncertain slots, there are a lot of replacements, and there are a lot of weird machinations going on with the wagons. She may have posted some thought process you disagree with, but she's trying to be transparent and I've melded with maybe near 70% of it. If she's playing sloppily then we have other people that are playing like the BP oil spill and they're getting way less scrutiny than they deserve.
I feel like you are all reading her with the expectation that as town she would have already jumped over three fireballs and day vigged Fire Lord Ozai himself. She must have a really epic normal town game for this to even be happening and I wish I got to see that in a more normal game instead of this replacement hell game. It's a shitty situation for everyone involved when this many people get replaced or go low activity and I just get the sense from her ISO that she's trying her best to solve the game. I can't agree to this lynch.
This is exactly how I feel tbh and I appreciate you pointing it out. Other people are out here just straight up getting things wrong, constantly, repeatedly, making tons of assumptions, not explaining things, not being consistent, but every single person except you - and one other - is on my ass.
Guess who that other one is?
It's Verelios. Who's doing absolutely nothing. Except, I would guess, watching all this go down and laughing.
I've been told I'm not making an effort - I have loads of posts, multiple reads lists, progressions, questions to people every phase, while answering tons of questions and correcting info. But somehow that's detached.
I'm told some of that effort is useless, because I guess I don't get to talk about mechanics but other people do.
If I answer one person instead of another, it's busywork. If I don't answer someone on their schedule, I'm avoiding.
And goddamn, heaven forbid I don't fight with Fran!
Sorry I'm fucking letting everyone down by not playing to your exactly specifications and expectations.
Thank you lol, Vere is being his Scum self here 100%.lol
Today, so far, Verelios has asked questions and thrown general mild shade. He's not voted or taken any positions. He seems relatively caught up. But he has actually taken zero stands.
Is that your king? That's scum zone.
Look at this list, what? No kill? Protect Stan? Lmao.Probably
Protect: Stan
Investigate: Monkey/Fowl
Kill: As of now, I'm not exactly sure. I'll go back through d2 and return with this.
RIGHT!?!?!?!What timing. He doesn't even have a hypothetical kill. Not even a for-fun kill.
I will assume this means that I am 100% correct and your eyes are looking down at the Scum team list to confirm how right I was!
I took a peek at the flip just to be sure I was right lol.that's fine, Fanto. I'm sure reading just the spec thread will make complete sense and won't be confusing at all :p
will scum remember to send the kill command?