Toad House - Spec Chat

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Welcome to the Toad House!

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As usual, be respectful of all the players, keep in mind everyone can see this thread once the game is over.
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
I'm bringing back the SALTY BETS. Now with a Mario theme!

Here is how it works! We all start with 50 golden coins:

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Ooooh shiny!

And you can bet them on ANYTHING you want related to this game! (As long as I allow it by quoting it and saying is valid)

Bet example (In green)
I bet 5 golden coins that Fanto is going to be Lunched Day 1.

BUT! This time you can bet with other spectators. That's right! You can take money from them! All you have to do is quote bet you want to bet against with the phrase "I'll take that bet" (In blue)

At the end of the Day or Night phase I'll round-up all bets and myself make a decision on who won the bet.

If a player bets and no one takes the bet, and you are right, your bet money is just doubled. If you are wrong, you just lost that money.

To play all you have to do is quote me!

(Also I hope the game runners don't mind me doing this, I just figured it was a short game and hey, it might lead to some fun spectating).
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I totally don't have anything like that planned for my Easy Allies Mafia game.

No sir, absolutely nothing like that is going to be in that game. Nope, it is not basically the same exact mechanics or anything, not at all!
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
With that being said, I'll bet 10 coins that they lunch CoolestSpot on D1 because he pulls some dumb gambit.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Man can't wait to find out that we are secretly playing this mafia game as well, and Salvapot is actually running the mechanic for Fanto so no one realizes, and even the whole signing up and then asking for spec was all just a ploy to fool us ;)
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The feeling of those final few minutes before a game of Mafia begins, always a very hype moment.
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
Also, you can make several bets as long as you have available coins.

If you run out of coins, you'll skip the next phase, but then start again the phase after that with 10 coins to bet.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I want to place a bet on who's going to make the fewest posts today, before too many people have posted.

I'll bet 10 coins that Z-Beat makes the fewest posts on D1.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Uzzy said:
but I've gone back and read some of the older threads since I got invited to join this one.
Uh oh, hopefully Uzzy didn't read any of the ones where I made a fool out of myself lol.

(She's my friend from a Discord server I'm in, I got her to sign up for this lol)
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
betting for coolestspot to misspell the highlight tags is just some free coins over the table
 

SalvaPot

YEAH

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
and still pissed about ONUW XV now that I am reminded of it. We should had won that one, it is just fair
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Rip 10 coins.

Too bad for me that Fran rolled scum...
you think Fran is scum based on the amount of posts he's made? XD
Maol and people jumping all over him for his dismissive attitude towards D1.

Name a more iconic duo.
LOL was about to say. Maol is always dismissive of D1 in every game he's in. it's NAI.

Another that is NAI is Z-Beat wanting to lunch Coolest. XD
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I realized this was the first game in forever where I wasn't working behind the scenes or possibly replacing in so I can read it casually and not have to scum read if I don't want to. LOL

I don't know what to do with myself.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Natiko sounds surprised that Z-Beat is mainly here for the flavor. I feel like people need to catch up on their meta.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Uzzy said:
A lot of the chat has been about how people have played in the past, and while I've gone and read some previous games, that's very different to actually playing with someone. So it's been hard to engage with that discussion.
Ah yes, I said the same thing in my first forum game here. "You're all just talking about how each other played in previous games, I can't follow this crap!"

And then when Uzzy plays in her next game she's going to be like "Eh, Coolest is just being Coolest, not surprised to see Z-Beat trying to flavor-solve again, Natiko feels different than he did last time, not sure what to make of that..."
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
13 minutes from EoD and I have no idea who they're going to flip first lol. I feel like these votes could all change in a heartbeat.
 
I haven't had the opportunity to read the thread since day start because I lost computer access but without any context I think the lunch on Alexem is ridiculous, I stand by me bet.

And I am indeed salty.

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Fanto

Confirmed Town
I want some big beautiful reads here from Spec Chat if anyone is willing to indulge me.

Who's your top 2 Town and top 2 Scum?
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Not gonna lie, I had that coming. Regardless of who's who, I played atrociously, even by my D1 standards. As usual, I drew a total blank, so I went with the only choice that I had any conviction for, but I could tell I was flogging a dead horse by the end.
If anyone is interested in some flavor spoilers that reveal a small amount about the setup:
If it hadn't been for my reply to Vere, that was going to be my parting post before time ran out.
I bet 50 gold coins that there will be no votes on Alexem at the end of D1.
...I really don't know what to say to that. Sorry, pal.
 

Razmos

New and Improved Flavour
Oh man I completely forgot I requested spec access! Gonna catch up soon and get involved haha
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Not gonna lie, I had that coming. Regardless of who's who, I played atrociously, even by my D1 standards. As usual, I drew a total blank, so I went with the only choice that I had any conviction for, but I could tell I was flogging a dead horse by the end.
Eh, I still blame Town for limping into it, I don't think you were playing that bad, they were just too afraid to rock the boat and question why they wanted to vote for you outside of "his read list!!" as far as I could tell. There were plenty of other worthwhile votes.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
Been busy for the past day. Why is Alexem dead? He was painfully town in the first few hours of the game.

you think Fran is scum based on the amount of posts he's made? XD

He is one of my scum reads. Not from amount of posts but I see him being a bit coasty and happy to go with the flow. And scum are unlikely to be top poster in any game.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I think Brazil scum, now that we know Alexem was townie that vote seems opportunistic.


Z-Meta is the partner? Maybe?

Fran seems town, that coolest-maol observation are the things you come up with as town
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
I think Brazil scum, now that we know Alexem was townie that vote seems opportunistic.
It does seem to follow the 'wait for a townie to vote then back it' approach if that's the case. Given the flack that was coming my way, I didn't think I'd be able to get away with pushing against Brazil's vote without it getting shot down as OMGUS. By the end I had nothing to lose, though - I knew way ahead of EoD that my head was going to be on the block so, given the likelihood of a town lunch on D1 (especially given my expectation of there being two scum players), I figured it was better to let the mis-lunch happen than risk losing a PR. (Incidentally, I did wonder if anyone would pick up on my earlier mention of considering myself expendable and figure out that I was vanilla.)
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
D1No takersFantolokiduckturmoil7RESULT
FantoI'll bet 10 coins that they lunch CoolestSpot on D1 because he pulls some dumb gambit.Lokiduck wins 10 coins, Fanto lose 10Made gambits but was not lunched for them
AeleusI bet 50 gold coins that there will be no votes on Alexem at the end of D1.turmoil wins 50, Aeleus lose 50Alexem got lunched, lol
KopiteI’ll bet 10 coins that on D1 CoolestSpot will propose either a no lunch or a random lunchKopite loses 10https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...makes-you-smaller.251304/page-2#post-40240890
FantoI'll bet 10 coins that Z-Beat makes the fewest posts on D1.Fanto loses 10Z-beat made 16 posts, Brazil made 14 posts
FaddyI'll bet 10 coins that Fran will make the most posts on day 1Fanto wins 10, Faddy loses 10Verelios made the most posts.
FaddyI'll bet 10 coins that no one votes for Natiko on day 1Faddy loses 10Natiko had two votes, the both removed, but someone did vote for Natiko on Day 1. Wording!



StandingsStart Day 1Bet during Day 1Won During Day 1Lost during Day 1Phase change BonusTotal
turmoil750505010110
lokiduck5010101070
Kopite5010101050
Fanto503010201050
Faddy5020201040
Aeleus5050501010


So, everyone that participated in the previous phase gets an extra 10 coins this phase, that way everyone that lost all their coins can keep playing, and there is an incentive to bet on every phase! Every phase you participate you get 10 coins just for taking part!

Let me know if there are any mistakes x).

Bets for the Night phase are open! You can bet on who gets killed N1, who will make the first post on Day 2, who will make the first vote on Day 2, stuff like that, anything I feel like it can be valid will be valid!
 
I bet 10 coins that Alexem won't get any votes by the end of the next day phase

I've got a good feeling about this one :P

...I really don't know what to say to that. Sorry, pal.
You got to bet big if you're to win in this world of kings and koopas. Just turned out I was a koopa.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Anyone have any guesses (or bets) on who is going to die tonight? Obviously I will not bet because I already know lol.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
They could have gone for Maol on the 'well, town won't learn much more from losing those two' basis. Z-Beat could be a candidate if they wanted to take out one of D1's less active players - likewise Uzzy if she's town, though it might be a bit mean-spirited to boot her on N1 of her first game with us... although part of the point of being scum's to be mean spirited!
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
I bet 10 coins that Alexem won't get any votes by the end of the next day phase

I've got a good feeling about this one :P


You got to bet big if you're to win in this world of kings and koopas. Just turned out I was a koopa.
Not allowed, lol.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
The dead has been notified of their status as dead and has access to spec, so bets are cool until they post or the day starts I suppose, whichever comes first lol.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
At least that should spare any arguments over how big the scum team is given the flavour they've now got.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
As he's not arrived for D2, yet, I'll bet twenty coins that CoolestSpot will NOT attempt a gambit today.

Normally I'd expect one from him in the first couple of days, but something felt... different to me about him yesterday. I know there were some comments about him being erratic, but to me he seemed a little more reserved than I'd expect.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
At least I was onto something about Fran being off.

Need to look again at who I think is part of a scum team.

However my 1 post reaad of day 2 is Natiko's opening post is scummy as hell. That is right in his scum tone.

Well, here I was telling myself to not get sucked into a tunnel on Fran for seeming to not care much about the day end yesterday. Guess I don't have to worry about that now!

call that half a scum read.

Also Fran being dead is done by someone who knows they should have killed Verelios but was worried about a doctor. Which is absolutely something Natiko would do.
 

SalvaPot

YEAH
I bet 35 coins there will be less than 200 posts next day phase
I'll take that bet.
Confirmed, btw.

As he's not arrived for D2, yet, I'll bet twenty coins that CoolestSpot will NOT attempt a gambit today.

Normally I'd expect one from him in the first couple of days, but something felt... different to me about him yesterday. I know there were some comments about him being erratic, but to me he seemed a little more reserved than I'd expect.
Got it, let's see if there is any takers.
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I bet 20 coins that majority will be hit with more than 10 minutes left in the day phase
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
D1No takersFantolokiduckturmoil7RESULT
FantoI'll bet 10 coins that they lunch CoolestSpot on D1 because he pulls some dumb gambit.Lokiduck wins 10 coins, Fanto lose 10Made gambits but was not lunched for them
AeleusI bet 50 gold coins that there will be no votes on Alexem at the end of D1.turmoil wins 50, Aeleus lose 50Alexem got lunched, lol
KopiteI’ll bet 10 coins that on D1 CoolestSpot will propose either a no lunch or a random lunchKopite loses 10https://www.resetera.com/threads/su...makes-you-smaller.251304/page-2#post-40240890
FantoI'll bet 10 coins that Z-Beat makes the fewest posts on D1.Fanto loses 10Z-beat made 16 posts, Brazil made 14 posts
FaddyI'll bet 10 coins that Fran will make the most posts on day 1Fanto wins 10, Faddy loses 10Verelios made the most posts.
FaddyI'll bet 10 coins that no one votes for Natiko on day 1Faddy loses 10Natiko had two votes, the both removed, but someone did vote for Natiko on Day 1. Wording!



StandingsStart Day 1Bet during Day 1Won During Day 1Lost during Day 1Phase change BonusTotal
turmoil750505010110
lokiduck5010101070
Kopite5010101050
Fanto503010201050
Faddy5020201040
Aeleus5050501010


So, everyone that participated in the previous phase gets an extra 10 coins this phase, that way everyone that lost all their coins can keep playing, and there is an incentive to bet on every phase! Every phase you participate you get 10 coins just for taking part!

Let me know if there are any mistakes x).

Bets for the Night phase are open! You can bet on who gets killed N1, who will make the first post on Day 2, who will make the first vote on Day 2, stuff like that, anything I feel like it can be valid will be valid!
lol when I took on Fanto's bet I didn't realize it was betting opposite of his vote so I won without realizing \o/
 

Franconp

Frank
If anyone is interested in some flavor spoilers that reveal a small amount about the setup:

Mario and Luigi are Scum lol.

If you are reversing the roles and making the heroes scum you should have gave me a fake claim too. In the case that I need to roleclaim I'm dead if I claim Peach. Now it doesn't matter because I'm dead but it could help for a future game.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
If you are reversing the roles and making the heroes scum you should have gave me a fake claim too. In the case that I need to roleclaim I'm dead if I claim Peach. Now it doesn't matter because I'm dead but it could help for a future game.
They don't have fake flavor or role claims, and all the Vanillas are Goombas, as per the sample Role PM and Alexem's flip, so that would have been safe for you to claim in the event you needed to.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
so.... jman will town read coolest if he does a gambit?
I always saw that as being a good sign for Coolest, to be honest... but I suspect he's latched on to that meta by now. Consider my choice of bet to be out of curiosity on that front.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
Brazil said:
Being the only one who knows the alignments of both leading trains, I guess it falls to me to analyze vote movement yesterday.

I made these so I could follow things, but you can look at it them if you want to as well.

<Graphs cut for space>
Hey, malus - if you somehow see this, Brazil's stealing your bit!
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I never understand what those vote plots are supposed to convey more simply than the vote tally, but they in fact look pretty, so they good
 

Faddy

of, having, or involving transitory whims
I never understand what those vote plots are supposed to convey more simply than the vote tally, but they in fact look pretty, so they good

They have some use but mostly for refuting accusations of bad vote switches. Being able to give context for why you switched votes at a certain point in time is good info. Maybe the train you were on failed, maybe other people had moved, maybe you didn't like people you were voting with. Having a bit more detail available can help.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Some interesting (and good) reads in the thread today.

I'm also thinking I'll switch to a 24/24 phase for D3 onwards, I don't want things to get slowed down with less than 9 players and a 48 hour day phase, thats what happened in the Mini game I ran a few months back.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
126 posts... starting to think I should had bet less coins on this one or raised the total
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I'm temped to take Alexem's bet but I would like to know how broad the definition of "Coolest Gambit" is
 
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