I'm thinking that the vig is either Sorian or Hawthorn in that situation. The first is okay...they might go for Leo or Hawthorn. The latter will shoot me on sight, lol.If you get shot tomorrow is either Kyan or I probably unless again we can get Sorian on the Hawthorn train.
Gut check, most likely vig to avoid a vig claim?
Yep pretty much. We end it now or we in deep trouble. I say Leo and turm today and Ty tomorrow night if it comes to it to give us the slightest chance at trying to convince Sorian to eject Hawthorn on the last day.
Yeah. The kill order does not matter if the doc is dead. We just need to pick the fool and the scapegoat for the endgame. You'll be the one against the two. Who can you put the blame on and who will believe you over the target?
I think the only one I could try to get a push on would be Hawthorn. I don't think turm would go for that, I've been on his list for awhile. No clue what Sorian would do in that situation, they've been fixated on Hawthorn for awhile but that would be a lot of new information to process which would change the read. I've never played with Ty so no idea how he would react. I think Leo could possibly be convinced but that would take some work. I guess if endgame came I would prefer to be there against Hawthorn and Sorian or Leo.
I think the best bet for Hedin in a 2v1 is to go for a Leo/Turm combination. Everyone else would eject on sight.Hawthorn is green as soon as we double kill. Same with Ty. I think Sorian would not ignore your hammer and he'd always vote against you. I can't predict turm. Leo I think is the best chance for the role of the fool since he has been suspecting both Sorian and turm. I think the endgame should be you, Leo and turm / Sorian. Deciding the final pick is not necessary right now and if it comes to this at all, you are the one who has to make the choice.
Based on this, I think we should kill Hawthorn and Ty. I think the doc is dead, there is little point in keeping quiet after Vere's claim exposes the supposed remnants of the scum team. Nobody entertained the Leo / me / Vere team either, which would've been the only possible reason for the doc to stay quiet.
I feel pretty bad for putting the team in a rough spot. I didn't think of the vig killing one of us off to cut off our path to victory before claiming when we could have tried to tough it out for the day and gone to D4 with at least 2 of us under cover.
I feel pretty bad for putting the team in a rough spot. I didn't think of the vig killing one of us off to cut off our path to victory before claiming when we could have tried to tough it out for the day and gone to D4 with at least 2 of us under cover.
We can speculate about stacking on Blarg, but that discussion (and all the others down the line all the way to we should've shot Blarg N0) is contaminated by info we did not have when the choice was made. Blarg was a perfectly fine push target last night and like some idiot said here, the only thing that would've fucked us up was if he and Hawthorn got green checked. Funny, I know.
Thanks guys, you know to pick a mate back up again.Nothing to feel bad about in my book. I could have never pulled that off and wouldn't have even tried and by doing so you put us in the best position to make it through the day. If the vig still hasn't shot then oh well, they should have shot last night in my opinion and can't account for it all.
Plus, Faddy is 85% letting us twist right now.
[...] before we spend the next 20 hours second guessing ourselves.
It wasn't a mistake. Since we had you as doc, it would have been easier to steer turmoil towards ejection if you spoke out. Your survival would be suspicious but it's also possible it was WIFOM by scum. Anyway, claiming when you did meant you were unafraid of a CC which is the most important thing.Oh, my claim is a mistake. I should not have done that but I panicked a bit when I saw Blarg's claim. I realized that the worst case scenario was now reality and had but two thoughts in my head: well fuck and good luck Vere. I should've thought a bit more about this scenario yesterday, but there was so much to think about.
Those choices are good with me.Are we good with Hawthorn and Ty then? I kinda just want to put it in and see what happens before we spend the next 20 hours second guessing ourselves.
OK then:
Kill: Hawthorn, Ty4on
Please be over.
Me if Vig didn't shoot tonight but we hammer:
be careful with hammah if vigi no shootbang pls les not be the team who gets caught by an unvote
am not ready btw, been a while since a cop fucked me over and i know it is coming
Yeah, if no vig shot then we can't really hammer it.
....before we spend the next 20 hours second guessing ourselves.
Town has no chill.I've stayed from a hammer when I thought that it was best to wait. No way could anything bad happen, better to look authenticTM.
Then Pizza killed my whole team.
Yeah, you might want to depending on who is the vig. Thunderdome Sorian. Don't CC turmoil because you expressed some hesitation in killing me the next day.So planning for worst case scenario if Vere gets offed, should I tempt fate and claim the vig shot? Say I shot Hawthorn to see if that would end things overnight? Would have to explain why I didn't claim yesterday but Sorian was the only one who never claimed anything so if its turm they would have the same issue explaining.
Actually, you can work it out that you mentioned killing Thorny BECAUSE you were going to kill me tonight. This can work.Yeah, you might want to depending on who is the vig. Thunderdome Sorian. Don't CC turmoil because you expressed some hesitation in killing me the next day.
Lol, Sorian is not shooting Haw after we hammered. He's definitely going to hit you or me.I think there is a good chance Sorian would shoot Hawthorn if they were the vig, turm is the one that I'm not sure about.
I got this thought that no way does Vere get vigi'd because I exist. I have every reason as the totally real doctor that I am to protect Vere, I believed him after all.
So umm. Yeah. Hedin turns into a corpse, Vere is a obvious red to eject and WHY THE FUCK IS THERE A DOCTOR WHO CLAIMED TWO DAYS AGO IN MY ENDGAME???
There's no target I live against. Kyan maybe, maybe lives against Leo. If Sorian claims vig then he doesn't live against him, and certainly needs to Wifom 2v1. The chances are bad though, do not pass go bad.So yeah either I'm dead or we win which makes it a lot easier on me! With that in mind would either of you want to change the targets based on the fact that it would be one of you two at the end game and not me?
So yeah either I'm dead or we win which makes it a lot easier on me! With that in mind would either of you want to change the targets based on the fact that it would be one of you two at the end game and not me?
I contemplated fucking around and stacking on Ty to frame Hawthorn for today and give us some WIFOM room, but fuck that, YOLO.
I ran through that thought. She wanted to frame kyan, and knowing he would likely protect me, she killed Ty to give credence to Blarg's claim that he was the cop.No reason why Hawthorn wouldn't go Kyan though even if we thought we could frame her for keeping you alive.
Hey, hey, happy thoughts!If the vig hits me that's a tough battle just based on numbers, would need two others to buy it. I think we just have to roll with it at this point.