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Natiko
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Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I'm on the way home now so I'll be mostly around from now on.
I agree Neki is a smart target for our guinea-pig. I will feel bad if she does something bad to him but something horrible has to happen to him sooner or later I guess.
As for who to target, I have no strong feelings at the moment so I'm happy to defer.
I'd only have suggested maybe avoiding Ambulance while his change in playstyle is still drawing looks. And also Chuggs as long as Kopite is still copying him just because it makes sense to see what we're dealing with before we think about shooting it.
I'd also personally prefer to avoid ATP at least for tonight because I'm bonding with Zem over him and if he posts anything in the thread like he's working through in the chat then ATP might be an easy place for me to find someone to frown at in suspicion today
I agree Neki is a smart target for our guinea-pig. I will feel bad if she does something bad to him but something horrible has to happen to him sooner or later I guess.
As for who to target, I have no strong feelings at the moment so I'm happy to defer.
I'd only have suggested maybe avoiding Ambulance while his change in playstyle is still drawing looks. And also Chuggs as long as Kopite is still copying him just because it makes sense to see what we're dealing with before we think about shooting it.
I'd also personally prefer to avoid ATP at least for tonight because I'm bonding with Zem over him and if he posts anything in the thread like he's working through in the chat then ATP might be an easy place for me to find someone to frown at in suspicion today
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
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No, I think it’s okay because I can say I copped Ael for some interesting behavior if I’m tracked. It’s all good.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kopite, for the next day and night phase you are a Godfather meaning you will show as town for any alignment checks. You have a 1-shot Bulletproof Vest. Each night you can PM the gamerunner the command ROLEBLOCK: (NAME). Your target will be blocked from doing actions that night. You are also a Watcher and will learn the name of any player that visited your target that night. You also have the ability to vote.
Kopite
Quickdraw King
Lol the more I think about it what a dumb idea this is XD
oh ho ho ho ho ho ho
We don't have to fake a red check. I was so convinced yesterday that Chuggs is other faction that I set up to go there today. I wasn't kidding about having a list of Chuggs' scum tells either. I think if I mount that today there will be plenty of people who will join. We can get him out. But the question is - do we want to? If we hang on to him, is that an extra kill for us? We could keep working on that today and try to get him killed d3. Depends on what we can do with his role, I guess.
@Natiko - does Chuggs' kill count for us? Can we use it?
ALSO: if there is a godfather, there is a real cop, so I'm going to retailor my PM just a bit.
We don't have to fake a red check. I was so convinced yesterday that Chuggs is other faction that I set up to go there today. I wasn't kidding about having a list of Chuggs' scum tells either. I think if I mount that today there will be plenty of people who will join. We can get him out. But the question is - do we want to? If we hang on to him, is that an extra kill for us? We could keep working on that today and try to get him killed d3. Depends on what we can do with his role, I guess.
@Natiko - does Chuggs' kill count for us? Can we use it?
ALSO: if there is a godfather, there is a real cop, so I'm going to retailor my PM just a bit.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Kopite retains the abilities on the schedule I listed.
thank you for the clarification, Nat!!
In case I am killed (because I could easily be the other faction target):
So some of the things that got pulled out of the thread yesterday that other people notice: Chuggs agreeable, passive. BUT ALSO:
-chain posts- 2-3 in a row for no good reason (this pads post count; high post count=town; he posts MORE as scum than as town)
-his constant invoking of others (use with care unless I'm dead, since I did it also)
-complete passivity at EoD when the person HE basically started on was going down - he expressed no concern or uncertainty (because he knew Ty was town)
-hunting the clues in Feign's breadcrumbs not to solve BUT TO HUNT PRs
-the very specific "maybe Faddy is on a small scum team" (Chuggs probably is!!) and notes on the bombing too. He honed in on specifics because he knows. What was it that got said about you last time as scum, Faddy? The curse of knowing?
-already a Ty v Chuggs dichotomy in place: USE IT
In case I am killed (because I could easily be the other faction target):
So some of the things that got pulled out of the thread yesterday that other people notice: Chuggs agreeable, passive. BUT ALSO:
-chain posts- 2-3 in a row for no good reason (this pads post count; high post count=town; he posts MORE as scum than as town)
-his constant invoking of others (use with care unless I'm dead, since I did it also)
-complete passivity at EoD when the person HE basically started on was going down - he expressed no concern or uncertainty (because he knew Ty was town)
-hunting the clues in Feign's breadcrumbs not to solve BUT TO HUNT PRs
-the very specific "maybe Faddy is on a small scum team" (Chuggs probably is!!) and notes on the bombing too. He honed in on specifics because he knows. What was it that got said about you last time as scum, Faddy? The curse of knowing?
-already a Ty v Chuggs dichotomy in place: USE IT
I mean, we could. What's he going to do, say he's a godfather? lol
all bodies help us get to 50% tho
Real talk, if I was a doc, I would not target jman last night because everyone would assume doc on jman. So I'm guessing they hit a bp or a doc cover. I'm also guessing they don't have a strong or they'd have hit jman, unless he's lying - which is possible. He was WAY too quiet after his 18 hour d1 no-post window.
oooooooh maybe they are lovers!
I'd be down to kill Zeke tonight. I wanted secretly to do it last night as revenge but it would be obvious and there were better targets lol
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
Unfortunately for me it wasn't timezones :blobghost:
As I just said in the thread, sorry I completely vanished, I had to dash out unexpectedly, and I'm additionally sorry my absence has drawn some heat, but hopefully that will shift a bit once I actually write things.
I'm going to go catch up.
As I just said in the thread, sorry I completely vanished, I had to dash out unexpectedly, and I'm additionally sorry my absence has drawn some heat, but hopefully that will shift a bit once I actually write things.
I'm going to go catch up.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I was busy (watching football) until now.
If they have a check on me then LOL. I hope the full thing blows up.
MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION
Thinking ahead to tonight: we should probably try to find partners and control them, I think, and I'll start using my shots, too, because I have a feeling I won't be here long at this rate, but damned if it wasn't worth it. RB one suspect and Faddy can control another, maybe? I think we also want to be careful and try to do our damndest to make sure we're not killing another scum tonight because that will bring faction talk into the spotlight.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
no I am controlling jman. He ain't disarming HP. That bomb has got to blow up.
if they don't have a kill and we offed Ael and Feign died... we are in for a long run but i think we have this on lock, especially if Maol really is a cop. I think he gets blocked anyway. or we could have Kopite block jman and Faddy you could take someone else? there are multiple ways to skin these cats.
I think Kopite blocks Maol - that way we can see also if anyone visits him. That's how we find out if he really is a cop, right? Redirecting IS a gamble, especially if they're infecting people, but at this point, we just gotta kill them, really. And everyone else. So we need to stay alive.
I'd rather not kill Maol outright tonight at least.
I'd rather not kill Maol outright tonight at least.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Usually some sort of revive or post death mechanic. Or the fact that we can go to spec says that type of thing doesn't exist.
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
FYI - should any of you flip I am going to correct the mistake that refers to Patriots in the role PMs. Genuinely not sure how that happened since you can see that those PMs don't even have that same template? lol But I'd rather not cause dumb confusion over a typo. Just couldn't clarify until that info was public.
I mean, I know that. I'm wondering what the actual thing here is. I'm gonna guess it's a medium situation and not a revival.
lol timing re: Nat and Faddy. Yeah, that is weird that it didn't get caught in review but with this size I think we'd have gotten there anyway. we are smart motherfuckers and not at all goobers. probably.
lol timing re: Nat and Faddy. Yeah, that is weird that it didn't get caught in review but with this size I think we'd have gotten there anyway. we are smart motherfuckers and not at all goobers. probably.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Blocking and watching is more likely to find us the doctor tbh. Although maybe a cop checks maol
we MIGHT be goobers.
I just don't to die, guys. I WANT TO LIVE!
People to not kill:
Kenny, because he is the vote tomorrow, easy
People who may still actually die: HP - it's possible that jman just had foxdie? we don't know how it works.
Zeke will bus in a second and now I'm concerned about him as a potential partner, honestly. I'd make that list:
Vere
Maol
Kenny
Zeke
low possibility of Fanto
low possibility Kalor
thoughts?
I just don't to die, guys. I WANT TO LIVE!
People to not kill:
Kenny, because he is the vote tomorrow, easy
People who may still actually die: HP - it's possible that jman just had foxdie? we don't know how it works.
Zeke will bus in a second and now I'm concerned about him as a potential partner, honestly. I'd make that list:
Vere
Maol
Kenny
Zeke
low possibility of Fanto
low possibility Kalor
thoughts?
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I forgot mediums asking spec things was the new hotness.
That's what I'm saying. If doc thinks Maol is cop, they go there tonight; we block and watch, we see who it could be.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I don't think the bombs explode due to their wincon.
"You win when you control a majority of the vote, when all non-Patriots have a bomb planted, OR when all non-Patriots are infected by FOXDIE."
If they could explode the bombs then there would be no need for the all non-Patriots have a bomb planted part.
Or I am wrong and they have like a one shot vig and used that on jman to stop bombs being removed.
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For our night actions I agree that Kopite should go on Maol.
I'll say one thing: Leo's (very correct lol) speculation is going to have Fanto freaking out tomorrow, because the reason she always votes me was... that other game in which I was scum who got to hunt a cult.
I would like to add her to the potential kill list. It shades Kenny further, too, and there are so many people to protect that no doc is there, I think, probably. Though I probably ninja kill tonight regardless.
I would like to add her to the potential kill list. It shades Kenny further, too, and there are so many people to protect that no doc is there, I think, probably. Though I probably ninja kill tonight regardless.
Possibly. But it could also be there in case they have 1 mafia left and two town but the two town are infected = insta win, not having to wait for bomb/poison or life through the day.
We don't know, but the gamble is definitely a choice between a shorter game and a longer one. We'll know if HP dies, I think, or if there are any other kills. poison may be die at end of day while bomb is after night phase - or they could just have to sit.
I think it's POSSIBLE but not LIKELY.
Fanto's dismissal of my Chuggs case is interesting. I'm going to go back over her posts. But for now I'd say let's put her on the list of potentials.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
Fanto is on the list but they did A LOT of work yesterday not going on Chuggs. Like they had no idea we could break through the godfather protection so for them protect and hope chuggs gets checked.
Zeke is another person we could just kill.
Do we want to aim for one of them for safety or do we want to aim for probably-town?
If I'm them, people I'm considering loading up today with bombs and shit are:
me
Zem
LP
Maol
probably not you, they'll hammer that d1 speculation on scum team size if they're smart but that depends on who the partners are.
Probably not Zem, since he brought up the d1 post.
So probably me and LP get poisoned/bombed tonight and they hope we kill Maol if Maol's not on their team and they try to get you voted out tomorrow, Faddy. That's my prediction at this time.
If I'm them, people I'm considering loading up today with bombs and shit are:
me
Zem
LP
Maol
probably not you, they'll hammer that d1 speculation on scum team size if they're smart but that depends on who the partners are.
Probably not Zem, since he brought up the d1 post.
So probably me and LP get poisoned/bombed tonight and they hope we kill Maol if Maol's not on their team and they try to get you voted out tomorrow, Faddy. That's my prediction at this time.
Faddy
of, having, or involving transitory whims
I think my plan is push hard on verelios. That is someone most likely scum with chuggs. If people start asking about other teams I am going to push you and LP. Maybe Zeke. I think there are definitely going to be town who are paranoid and want to go for someone pushing chuggs.
Oh, that's good, then I can yell and stomp my feet at you without fighting and scumreading.
If we could have controlled him and had him check Kopite and he knew it was Kopite, that would be baller, but I think that is the better solution, yeah.
I could be down for killing Zeke or Fanto. Possibly also Hawthorn. Can't think of any other good targets, really. What do y'all think? And who's Faddy's target?
Would not kill:
Stan
Kenny
Leo (maybe n3)
I could be down for killing Zeke or Fanto. Possibly also Hawthorn. Can't think of any other good targets, really. What do y'all think? And who's Faddy's target?
Would not kill:
Stan
Kenny
Leo (maybe n3)
Kopite
Quickdraw King
Re Faddy, I’ve got 2 suggestions:
- Hawthorn to target themselves maybe, to ‘remove’ possible doctor interference
- Fate‘s softclaimed Raiden, which could be a vig/kill role so divert them to another townie
For kills, I think Zeke, Fanto, Hawthorn would all be ok. I think town Fanto is likeliest to give us the most trouble tomorrow and she’ll be coming for you Monkey as you say and put a lot of attention there. Other viable targets are Sky and Neki, low info kills.
ATP visited jman who conveniently died, wonder if we can exploit this someway? Insinuate that ATP is from the other scum faction and push there?
- Hawthorn to target themselves maybe, to ‘remove’ possible doctor interference
- Fate‘s softclaimed Raiden, which could be a vig/kill role so divert them to another townie
For kills, I think Zeke, Fanto, Hawthorn would all be ok. I think town Fanto is likeliest to give us the most trouble tomorrow and she’ll be coming for you Monkey as you say and put a lot of attention there. Other viable targets are Sky and Neki, low info kills.
ATP visited jman who conveniently died, wonder if we can exploit this someway? Insinuate that ATP is from the other scum faction and push there?
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I think we want to aim for town.
Their wincons are only going to cause speculation and panic if they're still alive to spread it.
People can maybe dig through Chuggs now and try and find associations. They don't get to do that if we just shoot the patriots in the face for them, that's just going to leave them more free to hunt us.
I don't want to kill Fanto. At least not tonight.
I think there's a decent chance Fanto is One Of Them after she went to bat for Chuggs so strongly... and I also think she can probably talk herself out of the fact she did so and maintain her town status in the eyes of others. She pushed that Ynnek train. I think the way to "save herself" will be to stick with it as her definitive read to pursue and we want that train. And as a bonus she's been chucking town reads in our direction so far. I feel like she'll be more useful alive tomorrow.
I don't want to kill Ynnek because hopefully we can get him voted out.
I don't want to kill Zem because we know his power isn't dangerous, I don't want to kill HP because I want to see if the bombs do anything, I don't want to kill Neki because he probably doesn't really know how to solve and I'm telling myself that makes him safer. I don't wait to kill Sparks yet because I like the idea of having miselimination bait around.
ATP is up in the air for me.
I kinda want to see if he actually gets any heat off of of Chuggs chucking his name out at the end there. It would be nice if he could be a vote target instead. But damn am I regretting trying to frame my previous attempt to shade him as them being teammates.
Vere worries me. I think Ambulance slipped when he said he was glad Ael didn't chuck their roleblock at him, and I am assuming off the back of that he has a night action.
I'd be interested in shooting him, but if Faddy wants to push him for elimination I'd be interested in that too. I started listing him in my scum reads already anyway but it was wishywashy, maybe I could put some time in tomorrow trying to force myself to see everything he says as scummy and seeing how convincing I could make it sound.
But my gut says he's town, not patriot (... and I actually performed Vere's scum hunting via who gave Ael town reads exercise. We do not come out of it looking great).
I would be down for killing Zeke. I'm fairly sure he's town, the attempts to vote him out haven't caught any traction, and if left alone long enough he might actually start to Do Things and Zeke actually putting in effort is risky.
I would be down for killing Hawthorn. We know she has an active night ability and though we don't know what it is we know it didn't harm Neki. We know she typically gets heat for nothing anyway, and this wasn't her strongest day. I don't know how risky leaving her alone would be.
I would be down for killing Leo just because he's damn perceptive and once people start townreading him it will probably stick.
I would be down for killing Odin. He's being town read but it wouldn't really give anyone much to work with. The other team would probably double down on calling us names for it but that doesn't concern me.
Their wincons are only going to cause speculation and panic if they're still alive to spread it.
People can maybe dig through Chuggs now and try and find associations. They don't get to do that if we just shoot the patriots in the face for them, that's just going to leave them more free to hunt us.
I don't want to kill Fanto. At least not tonight.
I think there's a decent chance Fanto is One Of Them after she went to bat for Chuggs so strongly... and I also think she can probably talk herself out of the fact she did so and maintain her town status in the eyes of others. She pushed that Ynnek train. I think the way to "save herself" will be to stick with it as her definitive read to pursue and we want that train. And as a bonus she's been chucking town reads in our direction so far. I feel like she'll be more useful alive tomorrow.
I don't want to kill Ynnek because hopefully we can get him voted out.
I don't want to kill Zem because we know his power isn't dangerous, I don't want to kill HP because I want to see if the bombs do anything, I don't want to kill Neki because he probably doesn't really know how to solve and I'm telling myself that makes him safer. I don't wait to kill Sparks yet because I like the idea of having miselimination bait around.
ATP is up in the air for me.
I kinda want to see if he actually gets any heat off of of Chuggs chucking his name out at the end there. It would be nice if he could be a vote target instead. But damn am I regretting trying to frame my previous attempt to shade him as them being teammates.
Vere worries me. I think Ambulance slipped when he said he was glad Ael didn't chuck their roleblock at him, and I am assuming off the back of that he has a night action.
I'd be interested in shooting him, but if Faddy wants to push him for elimination I'd be interested in that too. I started listing him in my scum reads already anyway but it was wishywashy, maybe I could put some time in tomorrow trying to force myself to see everything he says as scummy and seeing how convincing I could make it sound.
But my gut says he's town, not patriot (... and I actually performed Vere's scum hunting via who gave Ael town reads exercise. We do not come out of it looking great).
I would be down for killing Zeke. I'm fairly sure he's town, the attempts to vote him out haven't caught any traction, and if left alone long enough he might actually start to Do Things and Zeke actually putting in effort is risky.
I would be down for killing Hawthorn. We know she has an active night ability and though we don't know what it is we know it didn't harm Neki. We know she typically gets heat for nothing anyway, and this wasn't her strongest day. I don't know how risky leaving her alone would be.
I would be down for killing Leo just because he's damn perceptive and once people start townreading him it will probably stick.
I would be down for killing Odin. He's being town read but it wouldn't really give anyone much to work with. The other team would probably double down on calling us names for it but that doesn't concern me.
Faddy
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I don't think I want to target hawthorn because if they are doc we want to see if they go on maol.
I feel like we pick someone townie and dump them on someone we aren't targeting. I think if we aren't killing fanto I should use my power there and direct them onto Verelios.
I feel like we pick someone townie and dump them on someone we aren't targeting. I think if we aren't killing fanto I should use my power there and direct them onto Verelios.
I like this a lot, actually. And kill Zeke?
RB/watch Maol
Direct Fanto onto Vere
Kill Zeke
Natiko
Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
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Faddy
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Oooh.
Natiko
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