Transistor GOTY review thread

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Neki

Bought a book once
I mean I guess Fate really didn't want to die without getting another check but it just made him look bad for two days if he is really the cop.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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I could swear that I read Godfather for Raz when he first flipped. So sorry Ambulance if that mistake gets you unjustly killed.
 
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Neki

Bought a book once
I could swear that I read Godfather for Raz when he first flipped. So sorry Ambulance if that mistake gets you unjustly killed.
The way you were on turmoil/bojack it would have had to been a mastermind bus job for you to go on them for like 2 days for me at least. I think I iterated that before I died so I hope they remember it. I wasn't too sure regardless though.
My problem is this only leaves Kold to roleclaim Red, since Nin's claim makes it seem like there has to be Red in the game unless it's a red herring lol.
 
It was fun to see scum try and work out Dante's role in the chat, turmoil got most of it correct by D2

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If Fate is being truthful then I hate it when cops sit on a red check and let someone else get voted out that day. No problem letting the day go on and seeing what develops before dropping the check but don't allow yourself to be a position where you can get killed at night holding on to a check.
Wait, Fate knew turm was scum and still voted for me to guarantee the lynch? Damn son.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
There was a mafia role in the first Transistor game that was very similar to nin's claim. Getting an ability after IC Red was removed. Would Aeleus switch the alignment for the sequel...?

I think maol just went for a gambit that ended up failing as town. I think hawthorn pulled a similar gambit in mario kart mafia where she faked a red check on launch/ambulance and managed to coax them into admitting it.

That was all Jman XD. We basically had a smoking gun, though, because we'd tracked them to the night kill. I don't think I've ever really seen it work out well for town to fake red checks based on a hunch.
 

Hedin

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Wait, Fate knew turm was scum and still voted for me to guarantee the lynch? Damn son.

I hadn't gone back to the D2 votes to notice that, very curious.

That was all Jman XD. We basically had a smoking gun, though, because we'd tracked them to the night kill. I don't think I've ever really seen it work out well for town to fake red checks based on a hunch.

Yeah I don't think I have ever seen it work out, it's never right and just muddies up the waters.
 

Hedin

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Also why would Fate check Leo and not Maol when it was obvious that he lied about the red check? Something is afoot and no one yet is really questioning it.
 

Leo

Quack Pack King
Also why would Fate check Leo and not Maol when it was obvious that he lied about the red check? Something is afoot and no one yet is really questioning it.

Because he's scum, and he only claimed to have check people who have flipped and he's sure aren't neutral.
 

Neki

Bought a book once
Wasn't Fate an even night cop? Wouldn't have known turm was scum until D3. Checking Leo instead of Maol was still weird if Maol is last scum he is playing this perfectly lol
 

Hedin

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Wasn't Fate an even night cop? Wouldn't have known turm was scum until D3. Checking Leo instead of Maol was still weird if Maol is last scum he is playing this perfectly lol

That's true about it being a D2 check so need to look at D3. Fate did put in the first vote for turm but turn also moved to EC for some reason.
 
Wasn't Fate an even night cop? Wouldn't have known turm was scum until D3. Checking Leo instead of Maol was still weird if Maol is last scum he is playing this perfectly lol
Oh yeah, you’re right. Makes sense not calling out the red check considering how D3 went down.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
real spoilers do not click

wonder if what nin says about only being able to shot people Kold had a vote on is true, and if scum will caught on it .....
 

Verelios

Were-elios
Day 5. Vote out Ambulance/Zipped. 8 left.

Night 5. Maol can act but not Fate. Assume scum gets the kill off. 7 left. Koldanar dies.

Day 6. Pick the other between Zipped/Ambulance. 6 left.

Scum gets a guaranteed kill on Fate N6 and they have to because he can act but not Maol. This is the safest option. 5 left.

Day 7. Me, nin, Hobo, Zeke, Maol. Vote me off or nin. 4 left.

Next night is Night 7 and since Sneeks had no self protection caveat, Maol can protect himself. Scum shoots either me or nin. Zeke is too risky to target. 3 left.

Now you have Maol and probably Hobo and Zeke left. 1 neutral, 1 town, 1 scum. Hobo can play kingmaker and scum can win with him. Who is scum then?

Honestly I think it's Maol.

Zeke's role seems too strong as it's essentially a one for one trade with scum. But nothing else explains scum and only scum dying N3. Also if scum had an extra day kill that they used on Sneeks, that can get around the reflection.

Maol has not proven his role and a universal backup also seems too strong in this setup. Which roles can he inherit that have an odd/even restriction? If everyone's claim is to be believed, only two: the doctor and the cop. That means town has essentially two cops or two doctors, with the second one hidden. Town has lovers and an IC to confirm themselves. Add in say 3 green checks (with a possible red) and that's 6/18 confirmed.



Maol pushed Zeke to reveal more about his role, and then floated a wild theory that scum shot BoJack. If scum died targeting someone, scum would want to know if they can do that again, and if they seem hesitant to reveal, that may be scummy. It's too risky to target Zeke at night so keep him until the end and try to undermine him as possible scum in the meantime.

Don't forget the fake tracker claim on EC. He claims it was to dodge the NK. There were plenty of options that night that had more town cred than Maol. It wasn't to get EC killed either because he was well on his way to dying before the claim even happened. It was done to lure out the real tracker.

BoJack was a Dante cop. Raz was a PR cop. A town tracker would be a logical counter, but Maol had to make sure there wasn't one in the game. He baited a counter claim. Either way, he'd use the backup claim and then eliminate the tracker freely, since the doctor is dead.

TL;DR: Maol is scum

1. Despite claiming to live another night and be useful, there's a scenario like the one above where he survives until the end. We have a tendency to leave claimed PR's alone so scum can resolve the slot, but scum has higher priorities at the moment.

2. Backup cop/doc seems too strong in this setup.

3. Fake tracker claim was done to bait a CC, as a tracker is one of the biggest threats to scum now. Nothing to do with trying to survive another night.

4. Don't forget Hobo is neutral survivor so town doesn't have that much wiggle room.

Vote: Maolfunction
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Neki

Bought a book once
They want kold to vote out everyone so nin can vig shot anyone if the situation ever comes up. I doubt it will but it's still nice to have.
 
FateShirou said:
@Aeleus
excuse me sir
may we get a day extension considering its mothers day
Is American mother's day that serious a thing in North America or is Fate just trying to buy time as shamelessly as I think he is?
 

Neki

Bought a book once
Mother's day is time usually spent with moms, though with covid it's hard to take your mom to a nice lunch or dinner. I think Fred just wants Kold to vote on everyone which shouldn't take Kold that much time to do given it's just 7 separate vote posts so I don't know what to say besides that really. I don't think 5 minutes is a big ask of anyone playing a mafia game but that's just how I feel.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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It would have personally been a bad day for me, we just hosted both of our moms and my wife's sister for a big brunch but it really comes down to personal traditions. If we didn't have kids it wouldn't be that big of a deal.
 

Neki

Bought a book once
I didn't see the benefit of flipping maol today but maybe that's just hindsight speaking.
 

Hedin

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Granted I'm not in trying to solve mode but I'm still not sure who the last scum is.
 
I mean, I assume it's one of the VTs, but I couldn't be bothered to read them. The Zeke tinfoil was a fun idea, but it's probably the simple answer that town will talk themselves out of doing.
 
maol I would have defended you even if you were going to scum accuse me today too lol
I wouldn't have gambited like that had I known I didn't stop the night kill. Since I thought I saved myself and a vig took out Bojack, I had little reason not to try it.
 

Neki

Bought a book once
The only two people left in the game playing with any sense of urgency is Fate and LP. If either of those are scum then congrats, they look more town than anyone else still alive in the game.
 
It's really difficult to read players who, just don't post. Makes you want to get rid of them before the players who are least putting in effort.
 

Neki

Bought a book once
It's really difficult to read players who, just don't post. Makes you want to get rid of them before the players who are least putting in effort.
This is why I always want to vote out low posters voters on day 1 even if it's mean spirited lol.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Looks like last scum wants to mess with town

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When will we go open spoilers?
 
A player jokingly did an alignment check on Nin, I was feeling nice so I decided to tell them anyway

Nin will be joining us soon
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
In a now historic mafia game Scum-Blargonaut convinced his team not to do a faction kill in order to pull off a doctor fake claim (it didn't work out), this move was lovingly named Hydro cannnon.
Surely that'd have called for Blastoise GIFs - or is Operation Solarbeam the exciting sequel?
 
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Hedin

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In a now historic mafia game Scum-Blargonaut convinced his team not to do a faction kill in order to pull off a doctor fake claim (it didn't work out), this move was lovingly named Hydro cannnon.

Ahhhhhhhh to a) the explanation and b) what's going on.
 

Hedin

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calling this Operation Solarbeam is perfect

im also a salty townie that this might actually work >:(

I think it's going to work. Zeke is the biggest personality left so if he wants he can steer the conversation. It will just come down to who he leaves come 1v2 time.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
So yes, maol was right, Zeke night killed Bojack.

*truffleshuffle*
You're behind the times, it's all about the :gehssyrfuhssyr: now. The question is - can Zeke make his bogus claim last, or will Fate catch him out tonight? (Personally, If I were Zeke, I'd have gone for Fate last night - true, nin could have eventually played his vig shot correctly, but Koldanar would have needed to go out first, and that's not going to happen by vote.)
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Yeah, losing doctor Maol there put town in a pretty rough spot because town is going to want to murder the vanillas before they consider the Zeke is lying world. I still think killing Bojack there was a...questionable move, but I honestly don't know if I would have found Zeke either if I was in there. He's very well hidden
 

Neki

Bought a book once
Zipped put out the idea that scum could fake the reflector role, wonder if people are gonna buy it.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
I'm struggling to see a f3 Zeke can win after everyone else has flipped if Hobo is taken out of the picture
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
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You're behind the times, it's all about the :gehssyrfuhssyr: now. The question is - can Zeke make his bogus claim last, or will Fate catch him out tonight? (Personally, If I were Zeke, I'd have gone for Fate last night - true, nin could have eventually played his vig shot correctly, but Koldanar would have needed to go out first, and that's not going to happen by vote.)

I would have to think that Zeke kills Fate tonight. Only reason why he didn't last night because he didn't have his check and Zeke could get rid of the vig just to be safe. It couldn't have lined up better for him.
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Yeah, piss off hobo, town


There is a team who wants you to win and it isn't town, pal
 

turmoil7

Imperial Corps Commander Who Cheers the Army
Hobo and Zeke open Wolfing a hammer in final5 would be hilarious, I hope it happens
 

Neki

Bought a book once
Now they're getting cold feet. I don't really like how defensive Hobo is coming off and I wish they would call him out on it
 
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