Transistor GOTY review thread

[EvilChameleon]

I don't know how Fate manages to spam the thread with such precision.

 

[Neki]

they went from massive pressure on zeke/hobo to the easy vote today on zipped. if they go with zipped I'm going to be immensely disappointed

 

[Hedin]

I just can’t buy the Zeke is scum theory. Zeke was on Raz Day 1, Bojack Day 2 and turm Day 3. That would be some hardcore bussing.

Maybe I'm biased but Zipped seems like he's scrambling today.

Just wait until they realize that he did all of that bussing and killed Bojack.

 

[Neki]

Hobo defending Zeke is really risky too especially if they ever flip Hobo. Not sure why he's going down this line. LP or Fate really need to pressure him on this.

 

[turmoil7]

I mean, other than being a little greedy with his fake claim(walked back now with the only valid on the first 3 nights hot fix) Zeke's play so far is flawless

Accepting Operation Frenzy Plant as something actually happened will require a leap of faith from every player alive

 

[turmoil7]

Also "not taking the chance to hammer maol" is not a move that must be read as townie when scum is 3 mis eliminations away from victory.

I wonder if Hobo is drinking the Kool aid or noticed his path is through scum.

 

[Neki]

Also "not taking the chance to hammer maol" is not a move that must be read as townie when scum is 3 mis eliminations away from victory.

I wonder if Hobo is drinking the Kool aid or noticed his path is through scum.

yeahI agree with that, last scum has no incentive to ever hammer or not hammer if he is the last person. It's really NAI.

 

[Hedin]

Actually with Zeke hammering is NAI and it would be the lack of hammering that might raise and eyebrow.

 

[turmoil7]

Nah, despise the meme, Zeke isn't a mindless hammerer.

He plays serious when there are stakes at play.

In that situation I think it would had been scummy, in fact.

Just hammering

*truffleshuffle*

 

[Maolfunction]

goddamn, even when I'm not really reading the thread my gut still points me to scum

 

[Neki]

one day town will look at dead people's posts instead of going over the same info over and over

 

[Maolfunction]

lol, I thought there was something weird with this reaction to my fake claim. Zeke was genuinely confused since he was last scum

 

[Maolfunction]

The setup really doesn't support his claim either, which is why I thought it might be possible. For town to have a doctor, a universal backup that could become that doctor, plus a neutral with an instakill, scum really doesn't have much to work with against all those blocks, and if Zeke was telling the truth, I have no idea how you would balance that except maybe give scum like two strong kills, which haven't materialized yet. And even then, scum could easily waste those on the other PRs.

 

[turmoil7]

Scum has unlimited "delay strong kills" like the one that took sawneeks out. Only restriction is that they must not be in consecutive nights

 

[turmoil7]

Final 3 may as well be a final 4

I don't know what would benefit Zeke the most

 

[Neki]

Town just has to think today and not be lazy

 

[Maolfunction]

Town just has to think today and not be lazy

or, alternatively, they be lazy and go along with me from the last phase

 

[Neki]

I would have gone to the ends of the world with you maol, just lead the way

 

[Chuggernaut]

Town just has to think today and not be lazy

Eh, I'm trying to not be too hard on them. The answers there, but Zeke has done some insane busing and not everyone knows his meta enough to know that's a thing Zeke would absolutely do. Spec was having a hard time figuring out it was him too

 

[turmoil7]

Yeah, and reading the drafts Zeke is posting in scum chat....

 

[Neki]

Eh, I'm trying to not be too hard on them. The answers there, but Zeke has done some insane busing and not everyone knows his meta enough to know that's a thing Zeke would absolutely do. Spec was having a hard time figuring out it was him too

I think it's fair but it's unfortunate that kold and ambulance are both somewhat low activity because it's been mostly dominated by scum reading Zipped. Without any prodding of Zeke or Hobo they're just going to accept flipping all the vanilla claims which is the safest route to take. I think taking risky reads and running with them are fun even though it might lose to conventional play.

I definitely would have wanted to vote off Zipped too but leaving the neutral alive this late is something I would have been against.

Zeke does deserve the win if he pulls this off though.

 

[Maolfunction]

Yeah, this is some high level mafia that requires a lot of experience to pick up on. The only reason I seriously considered it is because I've designed lots of games, and this setup didn't really make sense to me with Zeke's claim. And that's what led me down the memory hole of how he played early game and if he had a role like that, that only works for the first 3 nights now, why wasn't he doing everything he could to draw a nightkill? Doing nothing like he did usually guarantees the opposite result.

Most players 9 times out of 10 aren't going to go with the wild deepwolf option in a situation like this and will go with the safe play until final 3 where, if the scum player is good, it's a guaranteed win for the wolves.

 

[Fandorin]

Bojack was on his way out the day after we flipped Turm. His neutral claim was getting largely scum read and at least I was gearing up to vote for him the next day. Seeing his flip on day start was really surprising.

And now we have one of our role claims, which of the name was misspelled until I pointed it out for Zeke, which happens to take care of it.
Except the only way it worked is if the scum who died in question did the Night kill instead of looking for the player that would power him up to be a godfather…
In my mind, it makes more sense for scum to eliminate Bojack at night themselves (probably Bojack submitting it himself), sowing confusion, and then giving him a claim that is a non-moving action to eliminate Bojack (since a tracker or watcher could have been a possibility at that point of the game).

Nothing is simple here, and when you see my vanilla flip you will have to think about all of this like I am right now

Zipped on fucking point. Let’s go!!!

 

[malus]

I was onto Zeke early on, but I don't think I would have considered Scum killing one of their own for a fake claim. Even the claim sounded super fake, but with nothing else explaining Bojacks kill I dismissed it as just a quirk of the game design.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Low key I’m kind of mad that Operation: Frenzy Plant is going to work. That claim falls to absolute pieces if town didn’t have a backup doctor

 

[Hedin]

I was onto Zeke early on, but I don't think I would have considered Scum killing one of their own for a fake claim. Even the claim sounded super fake, but with nothing else explaining Bojacks kill I dismissed it as just a quirk of the game design.

My spidey senses were tingling early with Zeke but there wasn't anything actually there that I could really point to and make a case on. I would like to think that I eventually would have followed on on it but I'm not sure.

 

[Neki]

I've definitely felt what zipped felt here, you're saying all these ideas and no one really wants to buy into them or say anything so you have no idea if people are listening or choosing not to acknowledge

Rip though

 

[turmoil7]

wasn't the post count minimum lowered to 5 when a game goes to 24/24 cycle?

Anyways the activity shame is not cool

 

[Hedin]

wasn't the post count minimum lowered to 5 when a game goes to 24/24 cycle?

Anyways the activity shame is not cool

Yeah I'm not really sure how that is handled, especially with the early hammer too.

 

[Aeleus]

Every time I try and think of a flavour idea all I can think of is them...

 

[Neki]

LP needs to pull off a miracle tomorrow

 

[Hedin]

This is going to be a long night phase. Fate will be killed tonight and then I'm interested in seeing what the told does tomorrow. Town should kill off Hobo just to make sure the final 3 is in their best interests but we'll see.

 

[turmoil7]

LP is too rational to go with the crazy conspiracy.

Ambulance is the wildcard imo

 

[Neki]

I mean two dead town have scum read Zeke, does it need to be three before people consider it lol

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Of course I solve the game and no one listens….

 

[Zippedpinhead]

That was a VERY fun game, especially at the end, except for the whole they don’t believe me thing

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Sorry @Maolfunction , I really thought your role was too good to be true.

That’s on me

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Town has a shot, but so does scum.

what is “operation: Frenzy plant”

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Ok I read the thread…

GG scum. Hydro pump redemption from love boat 1

 

[Neki]

Town has a shot, but so does scum.

what is “operation: Frenzy plant”

Think its on LP at this point to build a compelling push for Zeke. He has to convince kold and ambulance.

 

[turmoil7]

It sucks for Hobo he will get mis eliminated after making it this far.

Would claiming vanilla had been a good move for him back then?

 

[Brazil]

In before town loses

 

[turmoil7]

Looks like Zeke will try to save Hobo

 

[Hawthorn]

Just caught up, always hoped there would one day be a game where scum went so far as to do the ultimate bus. I hope operation: pokemon reference takes Zeke and his team to victory.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Looks like Zeke will try to save Hobo

It’s really his best shot, save the neutral win the game.

 

[Hedin]

Just caught up, always hoped there would one day be a game where scum went so far as to do the ultimate bus. I hope operation: pokemon reference takes Zeke and his team to victory.

 

[Razmos]

Just caught up and Zeke really is legendary lol, can't believe he's still trucking along

 

[Razmos]

Also I was rooting for Maol even though he was town haha

 

[turmoil7]

Zeke used Frenzy Plant

Bojack fainted!

It's super effective!

Town is confused

 

[Hawthorn]

I think it'll end with Zeke, LP, and Ambulance, with Zeke and LP trying to woo undecided voter Ambulance. Kind of like those charts someone posted indicated.

Transistor was my very first game as mafia in recent memory, of course I have to root for the good guys, by which I mean the plucky underdog pokemon trainers.

 

[turmoil7]

Gotta love it's endgame and scum chat has more posts than spec lol

 

[turmoil7]

Who did Fate target?

 

[Aeleus]

Who did Fate target?

A Wild Ambulance Appears :(

 

[turmoil7]

Just thought of the ultimate 7D chess play for Ambulance/LP if they miseliminate a townie today: fake claim scum on final 3

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So hobo and Zeke have to convince one townie that one of the vanilla’s is more of a risk than hobo on final three.
Frankly Hobo’s best chance is an actual scum loss right now I’m not sure if Zeke will go for a neutral kingmaker or just the W…

welcome Fate… well assuming it’s fate

 

[FateShirou]

welcome Fate… well assuming it’s fate

 

[FateShirou]

I’m sorry Ael and chat for my outburst at the end of the day. I should respect the rules and not try to bend them as far as I can. I’m sorry for cursing at you amb, when you read this later. Thank you Ael for hosting this game

 

[FateShirou]

If we lose to zeke
i will accept that
I should have really pressured him on that refelector claim since a self reflector shouldnt exist but i fell for zipped

 

[FateShirou]

Wait, Fate knew turm was scum and still voted for me to guarantee the lynch? Damn son.

what?
i got turm's check on the following night

 

[Maolfunction]

lol, Zeke's post is scummy as hell.

 

[Neki]

Town can't let Zeke do this or I'm gonna be real sad

 

[turmoil7]

Now, what of Hobo is the one to catch Zeke?

 

[Hedin]

Zeke starting with the full Hobo defense.

 

[FateShirou]

zeke might as well talk to himself in thread now

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Town literally has everything they need to figure out it’s Zeke and not anyone else.

hell as someone noticed above I completely solved the game yesterday. Others can do the same

 

[Sawneeks]

Town can't let Zeke do this or I'm gonna be real sad

he cant keep getting away with this

 

[Hedin]

what?
i got turm's check on the following night

Yeah when you catch up more we realized that.

 

[EvilChameleon]

Gotta love it's endgame and scum chat has more posts than spec lol

Dead scum are still allowed to talk to alive scum? Never seen that be allowed before.

 

[turmoil7]

lol, Zeke's post is scummy as hell.

In this situation the best play is always eliminating the neutral, but honestly I think 80% of the town players here would let neutrals mess around and find out.

But, Zeke overplayed his hand here

 

[Hedin]

Agree that Zeke might have come out a little too aggressively. I expect LP to bring it up and see if anyone follows.

 

[turmoil7]

Dead scum are still allowed to talk to alive scum? Never seen that be allowed before.

Nah, but Zeke still post in the thread

Soliloquies

 

[Neki]

It comes off really bad as Zeke being scum partners from how I read it. Town!Zeke would never advocate for this kind of play.

 

[Hedin]

Dead scum are still allowed to talk to alive scum? Never seen that be allowed before.

The one time that I was the only remaining scum member I still posted in the chat. Helped me to get my thoughts down and organized for the next day. Didn't do much good in the end, I was pretty well screwed at that point, but it definitely was a good exercise.

 

[Hedin]

Not like this Ambulance!

 

[turmoil7]

Damn poor ambulance :(

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Amb no!!!!!!

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Last time I was final scum I kept posting in scum chat. Same with final partner in a mason chat.

amb no! Unvote you know your alignment voting yourself out just makes town lose!!

 

[Neki]

I don't see how zeke/hobo don't instantly bus this

 

[turmoil7]

I don't see how zeke/hobo don't instantly bus this

They aren't the same alignment

They don't know how the other thinks and can't coordinate

Hobo can't even be sure Zeke is scum

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Phew an unvote…

LP!

 

[Neki]

They aren't the same alignment

They don't know how the other thinks and can't coordinate

Hobo can't even be sure Zeke is scum

we all know what zeke wants and it's disgusting:

*trufleshuffle*

 

[Zippedpinhead]

connect the dots! You two can do this!

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Zeke is trying to add to the truffle shuffle madness

 

[Chuggernaut]

So LP is the one who thinks Zeke is scum during this day phase so if this day goes like the others, town is going to kill LP

 

[Neki]

So LP is the one who thinks Zeke is scum during this day phase so if this day goes like the others, town is going to kill LP

plz no don't say that

 

[turmoil7]

Well, Zeke is the only player alive who has killed scum

rolf

 

[Neki]

https://imgur.com/cEQ80Oe

 

[Neki]

Town right now: I like my votes the same way I like my ice cream,

 

[turmoil7]

Zeke carrying the team

 

[Hedin]

I like to imagine LP saying a solitary bad word at how things are going today and then just sitting wordlessly in front of whatever device he is using staring into the abyss.

 

[turmoil7]

Well, LP "solved" it but also he is in the receiving end of the stick and can see where this is going, something the other townies can't.

 

[turmoil7]

I'm interested in seeing if Kold will stamp his foot and lead towards eliminating Hobo or will let the mob take out LP.

I think he understands what's the play here but maybe will shy away if there is too much pressure to eliminate LP

 

[Verelios]

Yooooo, I know that clipped scum posting style. My man Zeke is feeling himself today and is definitely the game maker now.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

three town solves Zeke and then gets voted out….

I mean come on

 

[Neki]

I mean someone has to bring it up, what are the odds Zeke gets scum read twice and then the people scum reading him are town lol

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Amb is so close to seeing the light…

 

[Neki]

Problem is they still need to get either kold or Hobo too

 

[Chuggernaut]

YES AMBULANCE! HE'S TOO CLEAN

 

[turmoil7]

Yep, no one can be THAT right, it's improbable

 

[Chuggernaut]

Also that LP read of Zeke is like super saiyan 2 levels