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Lone_Prodigy

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TheChuggernaut said:
I actually don't think Monkey is all that hard to read. If she's hanging in there being real loud deep in the game she's probably scum* my main issue is that I don't trust other people that are around deep in the game to kill Monkey lol.

*Only exception to this is if Nat is in the game. Nat will absolutely keep Monkey around if he's scum.
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We were onto her in MGS. Too bad we were also scum. :laughing:
 
Ketkat

Ketkat

I remember thinking this morning that if Monkey was scum that she was likely going to be the last one that we flipped. I had my suspicions there, but I couldn't think of a concrete way to make the argument that would get people on-board as she was pretty townread. And I was concerned that if I was right and made that push without succeeding, that I would just be taken out during a day phase. I think putting her as my 2nd most scumread next to Woodsman was the final nail in the coffin for me.


But I would have honestly voted for most people in the game over Pazzo, so I think I was about to bumble from town player to town player for a while anyways
 
Geno

Geno

Hawthorn said:
To be fair, Geno did kind of react in a similar way when he was close to getting voted off, to the point where I was starting to feel seriously guilty for pushing him so hard. Neon's doing some good analysis of Alien's posts though, I think they're getting there.

I don't say Ephi and HP because I'm not 100% sure. I'd love it if there were more identity hiccups. My ideal scenario as a spectator would be two players claiming the same era username. That would be so much fun to see.
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I didn't lie about work btw, I really didn't have time at all haha.
 
Kyanrute

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Fanto said:
Welcome Kyan.
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Kyaaa.

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I should've been more vocal about things. To the meanies' credit, they might've read the situation appropriately in many cases. The anti-Sans' case coming from Pazzo of all people? Yeah, I ain't trusting that, even when I think it is bizarre why Sans has been universally town read all game. The Woody bus just added to her credit. Should not have written that defense post at the end there with the limited info I had, but I wasn't sure what my post count was at so I had to write something.

Boo getting ignored all game, ugh. Just hurts thinking what could've been.
 
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Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Town this game:

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Kyanrute

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
The Bear said:
kyaa
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rawr

Aeleus said:
Depends on the news you want, the snow duo are joining us and monkey is panicking that SG is the arsonist and they might have disrupted the ignite (they thought neon was the arsonist but they just learnt his role)
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I got vanilla checked lol, how could I be the arsonist. It is so obvious that the arsonist is atypical and should read as non-vanilla to the vc. Did scum mess with the check on me or something?
 
Kyanrute

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Boo versus Alien with a small side of Neon for today, I think. Town can afford a single more mistake and after today it'll be 0. If Boo gets it, scum should win. If a townie gets it, Boo needs to survive two nights, gas scum tonight and light the flames on the night after before the bullet kills him. In this scenario too scum win, if they just go for a townie instead of trying to kill the arsonist.

No, town had one mistake to make and that was yesterday. Good luck.
 
rac

rac

whatever
i mean just look
alien was getting scumread for worrying about a vote going bad for town
then didnt hammer and brought up the fact that its been -1 to turbo and got called scum for that

now is getting called neutral because he just started getting involved

the argument doesn't even line up and no one gives a shit
 
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Chuggernaut

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
rac said:
i mean just look
alien was getting scumread for worrying about a vote going bad for town
than didnt hammer and brought up the fact that its been -1 to turbo and got called scum for that

now is getting called neutral because he just started getting involved

the argument doesn't even line up and no one gives a shit
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Yeah, there’s a point you hit in mafia where you can’t possibly convince anyone you’re town and everyone just scum reads you for everything you do and it’s not a super fun place to be in
 
Verelios

Verelios

Were-elios
rac said:
i mean just look
alien was getting scumread for worrying about a vote going bad for town
than didnt hammer and brought up the fact that its been -1 to turbo and got called scum for that

now is getting called neutral because he just started getting involved

the argument doesn't even line up and no one gives a shit
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This is a masterclass in reading the room from Monkey and Nat. Would this have worked D3? No, they would have gotten pelted. But it works now because they've set the tone for days. Monkey is now openly trying to corral her pockets to side with her and it's working. Nat chimes in every now and again to agree and no one says boo because they did the I don't like you...but I understand you now, transition so well.
 
rac

rac

whatever
Verelios said:
This is a masterclass in reading the room from Monkey and Nat.
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i dunno

kinda biased here cause i feel like monkey shoulda got way more scrutiny for pushing me d1 for shit half the thread was doing
but instead she came out of it more town read than anyone
 
rac

rac

whatever
specifically one post of hers summed up to "see i knew cat would contribute eventually"

and no one bat an eye
 
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Verelios

Verelios

Were-elios
rac said:
i dunno

kinda biased here cause i feel like monkey shoulda got way more scrutiny for pushing me d1 for shit half the thread was doing
but instead she came out of it more town read than anyone
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She should have but Sans had a lot of fire early and no one wanted it.
 
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Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Town can get caught up in a small PoE at the end. There *has* to be scum in a remaining list of unconfirmed players so they go down the list until they belatedly realize that scum wasn't even up for consideration.

We always say it's dangerous to set up chains but at end game when a flip won't change anything (because everyone has mass claimed) and there are no more PRs to save the day, it's very easy to just continue down the path of self destruction.

But sometimes you still win even if you leave a massive trail of town bodies in your wake. So that's the dilemma the remaining town have to deal with. Which way is the right way and which one is being subtly goaded on by scum?
 
lokiduck

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Scum probably hearing the full description of the Doctor Tutor after just learning the name: :surprised:

Neon looking at the role and wondering what the Reviewer (I.E. Me) was thinking when allowing that role in the game:
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Me hoping Jman's inheritor isn't scum:
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Fanto

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Lone_Prodigy said:
Town can get caught up in a small PoE at the end. There *has* to be scum in a remaining list of unconfirmed players so they go down the list until they belatedly realize that scum wasn't even up for consideration.

We always say it's dangerous to set up chains but at end game when a flip won't change anything (because everyone has mass claimed) and there are no more PRs to save the day, it's very easy to just continue down the path of self destruction.
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Some might call this, "The Maple Street Dilemma"
 
Aeleus

Aeleus

Also game design trivia: Gnome's switch was originally a 1-shot strong kill, I changed it to give it more flexibility and as there's no to mess with the switch it's basically a direct upgrade.

Of course what I and my reviewer hadn't considered is that there was no way for scum to know that so it makes sense for them to use it far more cautiously...
 
AllThingsPurple

AllThingsPurple

Ephi is doing great but when the only town around her are wax, Lightning and Alien, I just can't see her swinging this. Still at least she can feel vindicated once the game is over that she was right.


Monkey trying to trash town without even bringing receipts anymore.

God I just want this game to end, its so depressing.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Is scum's plan to get the arsonist out of the game now that they've ignited? Through their investigations and POE, they must know it's between Alien, BooBeard, and Skunkbeard; they're voting Alien and BooBeard right now. While I can see them wanting to get rid of the arsonist because its a risk to them, I think they would be pushing their luck a bit.

AllThingsPurple said:
Alien nailing it again.
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Dude's reads are just on fire.
 
LaunchpadMcQ

LaunchpadMcQ

...can I smell you?
Zippedpinhead said:
are we fully spoiled yet? I took the past few days off spec and now I'm lost.
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Aeleus said:
Lightning strikes: Doctor Tutor, a doctor who chooses a player to be a doctor backup, the backup starts with 1 shot + additional shots for each night lightning didn't use their power.
Wax Phantom: Mason
Snow Creature, Snow Ghost, Neon Phantom, Spooky Space Kook, Captain Skunkbeard and Alien: Vanilla town

Pazzo the Ghost Clown: Daphne the Identity sleuth, a role cop but needed to guess a players identity in order to learn their rolename
San Franpsycho: Velma the Goon

Boobeard: Scrappy Doo the Costume Arsonist, arsonist who douses costumes (allowing frankenstein and char gar gothakon to escape douse) wins if the last one standing or if they kill 3+ players including a member of the mafia team, to help them achieve this they would learn if the player they voted for was scooby doo.
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rac

rac

whatever
honestly for any shot at this the arsonist has to claim that they only need to kill scum to win the game

think its the only way town and neutral have enough time for anything
if boo doesnt claim two townies die and then the game is over
 
rac

rac

whatever
also also if i ever play again im just gonna no vote/vote a person whose known for just fucking about

cause i really wanted to play this game
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Spaced out a bit on this depressing game, but everybody's right that Alien (HP??? still not totaly sure) is right about everything. Goes to show that even when everyone is against you and attacking you you don't have to give up as town... but even if he pushed the case against Pazzo more there aren't enough town to be convinced by it, so there's not much he can do. IMO town still has a chance to win though, because I don't believe that Boo's reads that he's posting in the thread are his real reads. He wants 1) to stay alive and 2) to hit mafia with his next douse, both good reaons to play it close to the chest.
 
rac

rac

whatever
Hawthorn said:
Spaced out a bit on this depressing game, but everybody's right that Alien (HP??? still not totaly sure) is right about everything. Goes to show that even when everyone is against you and attacking you you don't have to give up as town... but even if he pushed the case against Pazzo more there aren't enough town to be convinced by it, so there's not much he can do. IMO town still has a chance to win though, because I don't believe that Boo's reads that he's posting in the thread are his real reads. He wants 1) to stay alive and 2) to hit mafia with his next douse, both good reaons to play it close to the chest.
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5 town
2 mafia
1 arsonist
no one dosed

miss lunch + nk

3 town
2 mafia
1 arsonist
1 dosed

miss lunch and you lose on the spot right?

dont think theres any reason to keep any reads close to the chest at this point
boo needs more days that just arent there
does neutral win if scum wins?
i doubt it right
 
Kyanrute

Kyanrute

kyan-rute
Hawthorn said:
Kyan, I knew who you were from D1 because you said "ain't". Sometimes your posting style reminds me of a wise cowboy from a Western.
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1st time it was the "kinda", the 2nd time I died N1 and had no chance to slip, and now it was the "ain't". This cowboy obviously needs to find a "Formal English Generator" for the next costume game.

Your act was very good, I did not expect to see you behind Stan at all. Looking back, I only got Geno right. Everyone else either was a miss or got hinted at before I had made a guess. I facepalmed when I did not connect Sans, Baba or Cat before they got outed, those three were so obvious in hindsight.
 
Hawthorn

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I think you're right, actually, rac.

rac said:
3 town
2 mafia
1 arsonist
1 dosed
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After miss-vote-out, that's 2 town, 2 mafia, and the arsonist. Mafia still isn't in the majority. But if the arsonist dosed mafia and ignites that night, the next day the arsonist exits the game, leaving one town and one mafia, which is a mafia win. So, the arsonist could still win, but town needs to hit mafia at least by tomorrow to exit.

I do think it makes sense for boo to hide his reads though, especially since he might think there's only one mafia left.
 
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Lone_Prodigy

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Anthos said:
i really don't understand why no one is bringing up the fact that all the players that could have been town leaders are dead and now there's two left, why those two?
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Yeah this isn't "one scum left let's remove this subset of players to win the game". With multiple mafia and an arsonist, you don't get to F3 to figure it out on 50/50 odds. Everyone not confirmed has to be on the table, and it's disappointing to see some players keep revisiting Skunk, Alien, Boo, and Neon while barely paying any attention to Pazzo or Sans.
 
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