Scum Thread High House Chains

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
It's good, it's good, if votes get spread around the mafia team then nobody gets voted out.

Thank you Kenny!! 5-4 now.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
The ironic thing is that I didn't even want Geno to survive! I just took that position because I thought it looked townier to go against the flow :-(
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Fate Under Night In-Birth Shirou is my name on resetera nin
i earned it during FGO mafia
577930840835620874.png
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
It's tied again now if you count Launchpad's missing vote. @Leo will vote zipped, unless he's not around, not sure what time it is for him right now. Fran will probably vote zipped. ATP will vote me. That means it really is up to Blarg and EC.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Actually Leo town read zipped in his reads list, so he might not be able to vote for him.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I gave you a stronger town read so i can say between the two of you, I'd rather vote Zipped.

If you think you can get away with it, I think it's worth it. Just make sure you note the "lesser of two evils" thing
 
If you think you can get away with it, I think it's worth it. Just make sure you note the "lesser of two evils" thing

Yeah, I'm only cautious of the exact timing. If i do it now, people might start to get fussy and move their votes to you.

It's 5-4 to Zipped rn, best thing would be i don't have to interfere. I think I will refrain from posting now and come in before eod if i have to.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I'm only cautious of the exact timing. If i do it now, people might start to get fussy and move their votes to you.

It's 5-4 to Zipped rn, best thing would be i don't have to interfere. I think I will refrain from posting now and come in before eod if i have to.

Good balanced plan
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, I'm only cautious of the exact timing. If i do it now, people might start to get fussy and move their votes to you.

It's 5-4 to Zipped rn, best thing would be i don't have to interfere. I think I will refrain from posting now and come in before eod if i have to.

But be careful about seeming too reactive. Like if ATP suddenly appears and votes for me (seems possible) don't immediately jump in and vote for zipped. It'll look like you were reading the thread & waiting for the vote to swing.
 
Btw Haw, do you have a claim ready? I haven't read scum chat, still working on the main thread lol
 
I thiiiiiink we're safe, cause it seems if Fran is moving his vote, he will move it to Zipped.

You did great defending yourself, Haw. The drama is top notch, I had to remind myself you're actually scum lol
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, sorry, had to dip out for a work call.

I'm not sure about a claim because of the 25% chance of getting a random town flip. Also, high chance of getting counter-claimed. Plus, zipped is in the lead right now. Do you think I should claim?

It would have to be something valuable, like doctor, which would have the benefit of possibly baiting a counter claim, but would also seem super suspicious under the circumstances. Or a Geno-style crazy bastard claim.

IDK, I don't think it's worth it, but now I'm doubting myself
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I thiiiiiink we're safe, cause it seems if Fran is moving his vote, he will move it to Zipped.

You did great defending yourself, Haw. The drama is top notch, I had to remind myself you're actually scum lol

LOL, TY Leo!
 
I thiiiiiink we're safe, cause it seems if Fran is moving his vote, he will move it to Zipped.

I could go for a gambit here and vote Haw hoping Fran would move to Zipped to break the tie. I'm like 80% sure he would, but idk. Would be great muddle the connection between me and Haw.

What happens when the time runs out and there is a tie?
 
Actually, nevermind, pretty sure Launch is stalking from a bush ready to vote Haw lol his vote on Fate is bs
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I could go for a gambit here and vote Haw hoping Fran would move to Zipped to break the tie. I'm like 80% sure he would, but idk. Would be great muddle the connection between me and Haw.

What happens when the time runs out and there is a tie?

Don't do it!!!
 
I'm not sure about a claim because of the 25% chance of getting a random town flip. Also, high chance of getting counter-claimed. Plus, zipped is in the lead right now. Do you think I should claim?

No, i was asking in case the vote would change, but you're right, i had forgotten that mechanic. I think even if you take the lead in the last minutes, we have more chances of you getting tailored than changing people's opinions so late.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
No, i was asking in case the vote would change, but you're right, i had forgotten that mechanic. I think even if you take the lead in the last minutes, we have more chances of you getting tailored than changing people's opinions so late.

Yeah I agree about that!
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, at this point we're doing great. Even if they turn on me tomorrow (which I'm betting the momentum will be gone by then), we'll be in a strong position.
 
Great job, team!

Our NK will be crucial now. Some of the town players are onto solving us, so we have to break the line of thought.

It's great that Zipped is gone, he was getting dangerous. Now I'm most cautious about Launch and Fran. I think Zeke and ATP could wait another night.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Great job, team!

Our NK will be crucial now. Some of the town players are onto solving us, so we have to break the line of thought.

It's great that Zipped is gone, he was getting dangerous. Now I'm most cautious about Launch and Fran. I think Zeke and ATP could wait another night.

I hear that about Zeke ... my concern about ATP is how highly town read he is because of the VA situation. Getting close to being considered "confirmed town". Of course fran is up there too. Launch is highly town read, but could be pushed to be voted out IMO. Also, if they end up turning on me and voting me out, and I don't get my lucky town flip, Launch is the person to push as my mafia partner, from the way he switched to Zipped last minute after pushing me all day. That's a few moves down the road though. Ultimately any of those 4 would be a fine kill for us tonight.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
I say tomorrow we start off by going at each other throats
no standing by
nothing
i dont want us to have to sit by and hope town mislynches 3 days in a row
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I say tomorrow we start off by going at each other throats
no standing by
nothing
i dont want us to have to sit by and hope town mislynches 3 days in a row
Yeah, we definitely need to have a strategy, but we shouldn’t overcorrect & all go after each other if it’s not consistent with our previous reads. I’ll definitely go after Leo a bit, since I had him on my scum list, and potentially you a bit Fate. Nin could go after me.

but we should decide what misvote we want to push then go from there. Strategy first then tactics.

if we kill ATP, the question is do we try to push a mis vote on one of our other targets (Launch or Zeke) or do we go for an easy target such as Blarg, EC, etc. Do we want to play it safe or not essentially?

by pushing a person I don’t mean that we would all publicly scum read them or vote for them, just that we would think of some way to hopefully manipulate town in thatdirection.

im divided over which way to go & am on mobile, but I’ll think over it more & really want to hear what you guys think as well.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
he question is do we try to push a mis vote on one of our other targets (Launch or Zeke) or do we go for an easy target such as Blarg, EC, etc. Do we want to play it safe or not essentially?
we have to see what the state of the game is
if they have any info and if we are able to get our kill through first
town could have a protective role that didnt use it N1
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
we have to see what the state of the game is
if they have any info and if we are able to get our kill through first
town could have a protective role that didnt use it N1

Or they just used it on somebody else, but yeah really good point. I guess you could say we should avoid ATP for that reason, because the doctor would assume that we would go for him, but then you get into the wifom where maybe the doctor would think that we would think that the doctor would think that we would kill ATP, so the doctor would think that actually we would go elsewhere. So let's just kill ATP.

We could also use Leo's switch if we're worried. I would say switch ATP and one of us, then aim the kill at the one of us we switched. That way the kill will go through & any protective action aimed at ATP would be taken by us for the night, nice bonus if we're worried about a killer.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I remember that Leo wanted to go in a different direction from ATP too, so let's see what Leo and Nin say re kill options
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Let me think about the Options.
Came home and will now make up a list with our potential nk's
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
OKay here are the potential candidates and my thoughts on them.


[He/Him] AllThingsPurple|ATP: Would potentially be okay with him being NK'ed.

[He/Him] Fran: He said there was something fishy and it was too quiet EoD. Would not waste a kill on.

[He/Him] EvilChameleon|EC : I already laid a seed on others mind with him being kinda weird in the way he played. Would also not waste a kill on him tonight.

[He/Him] Ynnek7|Kenny: this guy, nowhere to be seen and only pops up here and there :P would keep around for the moment. Potential thread later on.

[He/Him] BoJack Horseman|BoJack : Voted Zipped and even though he is seen as townish by some folks there is no need to waste a NK on him.

[He/Him] Stuart444|Stu : Voted Zipped is also someone who is seen as sketchy by some players, no need to waste a NK on him.

[He/Him] LaunchpadMcQ|Launchpad : Voted Zipped out, even though he was on me with a vote i think he will back of tomorrow.

[He/Him] EzekelRAGE : huge Question mark, can be a thread later on. Would be okay to get rid of.

[He/Him] rac : he was onto Hawthorn from the beginning and never moved his vote, he will also be a thread tomorrow. Would be okay to get rid of.

[He/Him] Blargonaut : Would be okay to get rid of.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Thanks nin! IMO we should prioritize killing people who it won’t be possible to push for a mis vote out, so of your list that would be ATP, Launch, Zeke, maybe rac. I would still say ATP myself.

what do you guys think of the idea of using the switch to circumvent a possible doc on atp? Especially asking Leo as it’s your power
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
yes we should do that
switch ATP/haw haw
and i will roleblock launch

no way vig will target atp, but they could target haw haw
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
worst chance scenario, our plan is dumb and we end up killing haw haw and then one of us can claim reflective shield
:kappa
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Leo if you decide to take back the switch don’t forget to also change the kill target!
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
just wanted to bring this into the forefront again since it looks like a good way to start the day

Yeah, we definitely need to have a strategy, but we shouldn’t overcorrect & all go after each other if it’s not consistent with our previous reads. I’ll definitely go after Leo a bit, since I had him on my scum list, and potentially you a bit Fate. Nin could go after me.

just wanted to bring this into the forefront again since it looks like a good way to start the day


but we should decide what misvote we want to push then go from there. Strategy first then tactics.

What do you mean by missvote ?

if we kill ATP, the question is do we try to push a mis vote on one of our other targets (Launch or Zeke) or do we go for an easy target such as Blarg, EC, etc. Do we want to play it safe or not essentially?

It seems that we are going to go with the ATP kill.

I am still thorn since on the one hand i want to go with the safe play and "tunnel" like a madman and say "I TOLD YOU EVERYONE THAT HAW IS SCUM" which does not mean that you are scum in town eyes, it just shows my dedication to find scum lol. furthermore i will put in EC aswell as Launch into the mix since you will have posted before me and brought up the case against Launch.

by pushing a person I don’t mean that we would all publicly scum read them or vote for them, just that we would think of some way to hopefully manipulate town in thatdirection.

im divided over which way to go & am on mobile, but I’ll think over it more & really want to hear what you guys think as well.

I am also very divided so we should talk a bit more about the following day before starting.

I outlined everything we did aswell who we should / could push in this little excel image

aaCKA3m.png
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Nin that excel image is so helpful, thank you!!


What do you mean by missvote ?

I meant like mis-vote-out. Mislynch we used to say.

I am still thorn since on the one hand i want to go with the safe play and "tunnel" like a madman and say "I TOLD YOU EVERYONE THAT HAW IS SCUM" which does not mean that you are scum in town eyes, it just shows my dedication to find scum lol. furthermore i will put in EC aswell as Launch into the mix since you will have posted before me and brought up the case against Launch

makes total sense for you to push me.

im going to push EC as best I can, possibly Blarg as well, & keep my suspicion on Leo. Don’t know if we have a great case on launch other than based on poss connections to me, so it should maybe be you who brings it up a bit since you’re suspecting me. Then we can see if anyone bites.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Everyone, including me can of course bring up the low posters such as Kenny and blarg into the mix, since they are also a huge question mark at this moment
 
Hey guys! I'm so sorry, i totally thought the action locked 1 hour before the next day, but it was actually two. I was busy at work today and was planning to check when I got home, but i saw now it's already locked :(

I'll catch up
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
No worries Leo, RL comes first!! I hope you don't mind that we used your switch, it's reasonable if you're annoyed about it, it just seemed like a good way to circumvent possible heals
 
  • Like
Reactions: Leo
No worries Leo, RL comes first!! I hope you don't mind that we used your switch, it's reasonable if you're annoyed about it, it just seemed like a good way to circumvent possible heals

Not at all! I'm glad I could help even away lol

I was actually going to suggest we use it, today's NK is important
 
just wanted to bring this into the forefront again since it looks like a good way to start the day



just wanted to bring this into the forefront again since it looks like a good way to start the day




What do you mean by missvote ?



It seems that we are going to go with the ATP kill.

I am still thorn since on the one hand i want to go with the safe play and "tunnel" like a madman and say "I TOLD YOU EVERYONE THAT HAW IS SCUM" which does not mean that you are scum in town eyes, it just shows my dedication to find scum lol. furthermore i will put in EC aswell as Launch into the mix since you will have posted before me and brought up the case against Launch.



I am also very divided so we should talk a bit more about the following day before starting.

I outlined everything we did aswell who we should / could push in this little excel image

aaCKA3m.png

I think we can easily push EC, Blarg, Kenny and Stu today due to low activity.

I can't go for EC cause i town read him but he shouldn't need too much of a push, there are a lot of people eager to vote him even if we don't do anything. You guys can just throw a shade or two in him, and hop on the train when/if it happens. It shouldn't be us to start it, I don't think.

I've actually shaded Blarg already saying my meta on him is he puts work since D1 but it's D3 already and he hasn't done anything. Will push a bit further and see what happens.

Stu and Kenny haven't been discussed much, but we should take the opportunity if it raises.

Zeke is always a viable candidate for a mislynch, we will be looking for opportunities.

Launch I don't really see as viable today, but will be good to diversify our reads anyway.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
alright 10 mins till day start
i blocked launch therefore i probably wont get away with claiming town roleblocker

im going to push EC as best I can
you will get called out for low effort pushing
if we have a great case on launch other than based on poss connections to me,
we could try this, it will be difficult to do so
low posters such as Kenny and blarg into the mix
lets try out best to keep them engaged and make it seem like the top posters are town(us) and the low posters are scum (EC, kenny, bojack, etc)
 
Lol my experience with Zeke is he takes a bit to start playing, and then he will either have a lot of town cred or very little. We should read the room to see if we can get him mislynched or NK him before he gets too strong
 
Top Bottom