Scum Thread High House Chains

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, but Blarg's going to move his vote probably. I'll give it 5-10 minutes then switch if there's no movement, that seems the most believable.
 
Yeah, but Blarg's going to move his vote probably. I'll give it 5-10 minutes then switch if there's no movement, that seems the most believable.

Fran gave us a good cue now, we just have to time it right so the tie break will be on Fate's side lol
 

Hawthorn

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Ugh, I cross-posted with Blarg's unvote, now I have to switch back I guess?? This is why I hate bussing!!
 
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If Blarg stays put, 4-5 will probably intimidate race from moving his vote because he will cause a tie
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
We can talk about NK options later once we see the flip. Stu should be on the list of potentials IMO
 
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FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
lol im so mentally exhausted
gonna sleep and then post my thoughts
i think we should just go for fran/launch and i will roleblock stu
and then tomorrow i will just openwolf or something, maybe we can get a stu mislynch if they dont have any results?
 
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Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
lol im so mentally exhausted
gonna sleep and then post my thoughts
i think we should just go for fran/launch and i will roleblock stu
and then tomorrow i will just openwolf or something, maybe we can get a stu mislynch if they dont have any results?

Have some rest, you've earned it, open wolfing is a truly terrible idea that I strongly advise against, we can talk about NK targets a bit later but kill fran/launch and roleblock stu also sounds like a viable plan.

Cute dog Leo!!
 
We can talk about NK options later once we see the flip. Stu should be on the list of potentials IMO

The problem with Stu is we can't bypass any protections anymore, we would be risking losing our NK :(

We could rb him in case his check depends on using a power
 
lol im so mentally exhausted
gonna sleep and then post my thoughts
i think we should just go for fran/launch and i will roleblock stu
and then tomorrow i will just openwolf or something, maybe we can get a stu mislynch if they dont have any results?

Night night fate under the night in birth shirou, sleep well
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Just checking in before going to bed to day that i am impressed with the way you handled the day. Man that was amazing. I am honored to call you all teammates :*
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Will update the excel and speak about our potential night kills aswell as our next push for the following day and the days ahead.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
This looks amazing, but it doesn't fit with rac's behavior at all. TBH it's making me paranoid that the town flips are also tailored in some way..
 
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Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I just cant see a scenario where i can defend myself tomorrow lol

You absolutely can! I’ll try to look through the thread tomorrow & think of some specific arguments for you, but honestly you were doing a good job defending today. You can keep it up. Just think of what you would say if you were town and say that, it’s ok if it feels weak.

Town has a short attention span and it’s actually pretty rare for the opposing train from the previous day to be voted out, because town fears chain voting, they want to synthesize based on new information.

You might get voted out tomorrow but objectively it’s far, far from a forgone conclusion. You feel like there’s no way for you to defend yourself because you know that the things you’re saying are bullshit, but town don’t know that. And they second guess themselves a lot. So buck up and stop this talk of open wolfing!!
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
The doctor is dead, so IMO we could risk a kill on Stu, but he’s also easy to push for a mis vote out, so I’m ok with the launch plan. He’s become too much of a town leader. Other option is Fran, but I kind of want to keep him alive to press Stu
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
guys
the doctor isnt dead
we dont know if the flips are right
the doctor role could just be one in the game
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
what if hedin does the same for town, when town die they get flipped with an random ability
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i just cant figure out why raz will end the day like that
why not claim doctor?
i would have 100% been lynched
 
All these flips seem too good to be true. We've had a cop, a tracker, a switcher and a doctor flipping one after the other. I'm convinced there's something up.
 
There has to be a catch. launch has to die, would ninja it also

I agree, Launch should die today as if there is any protection left in the game, it will be used on Stu probably. And i think all of us are in good graces more or less with his reads rn, so let's make them stop right there lol
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
I’m not as 100% sure as the rest of you that the flips are fake, but we should be cautious either way. Sounds like we’re all on board for block Stu & ninja kill Launch?

Leo should you use your heal or do you want to save it? In case the killer hits one of us. He seems to hit more town read players than not so I would say use it on you or me if you use it.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i think the killer will try to get me since i was the leading train yesterday, if you guys think its worth using now

yes, we should 100% block stu tonight and make sure to kill launch
 
I agree with Haw, tomorrow is another day and I don't think you will get that much heat, Fate. You can totally even skew the reads on your favor still. Besides, Stu will probably dominate the discussion early day and will help getting attention off today's vote.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
I will block stu
Nin takes the kill
Haw you do something
and leo you can consider healing me

otherwise just save that for later

i think its fair if we do a quick meetup after the flips tomorrow
to see who died and what the situation is before we make our move
 
i think the killer will try to get me since i was the leading train yesterday, if you guys think its worth using now

yes, we should 100% block stu tonight and make sure to kill launch
I’m not as 100% sure as the rest of you that the flips are fake, but we should be cautious either way. Sounds like we’re all on board for block Stu & ninja kill Launch?

Leo should you use your heal or do you want to save it? In case the killer hits one of us. He seems to hit more town read players than not so I would say use it on you or me if you use it.

I can see both points. I really have no idea if the killer is town or neutral, they seem to be targeting mostly town read players but that might just be a coincidence? Eve if they are a neutral serial killer, doesn't really matter if they hit town or not, i don't think.

@Hedin can I use more than one command per night? If I can, I could heal Fate and use nexus so we will cover most of the bases.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Okay, my thoughts are those.

Stu knows that the flips are rigged and also knows that there might be another scum party.

It could be that some of the "town players" that flipped were indeed scum. That's why he was so confident in saying that town is in a much better position than initially thought.

What does that mean for us ?
We don't really care if we got another scum or another town member. What matters is that we 4 are still alive and rocking. We got town into lynching someone else than us.

Whatever happens this is going to be interesting to say the least.


Oh and @FateShirou go to bed and think about something else. There will be no howling while I am around! :*
 
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nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Here is the thing what baffles me.

Rac got lunched, he was a Doctor. No way in any hell does someone who is a doctor not claim in order to save his own skin. I mean he did not even say one bit about it while playing. It sounds more like a cocky scum player who got caught and his flip was altered.
 
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Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Yeah, now that you mention it, rac was acting basically just like the possible strategy we discussed for the tailoring. Avoid claiming so that your claim doesn't contradict the tailored flip.

If we go with that theory it means that maybe Geno or Zipped could be scum also (Hedin told us the tailoring is only a chance on being voted out, don't think another team would have such a huge advantage over us of flipping on being NK'd also, so Sawneeks, VA, ATP, and Zeke were town).

As far as we're concerned it doesn't really matter, as long as there's not any way we can ally with them right now. To win we need to be 50% of the remaining players, town or whatever else, as nin said.

The good thing is that this will really mess up town's calculations. They probably will think that any dead player could have been mafia.

I think we need to regroup in here after the flip and also after Stu drops his info.

Looks like we're settled on actions of:

Nin: ninja kill Launchpad
Fate: Block Stu
Leo: maybe heal one of us?
Hawthorn: nothing
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Nin: ninja kill Launchpad
Fate: Block Stu
Leo: maybe heal one of us?
Hawthorn: Go read project hail mary

Block:Stu
 
Who do your guys think has the most chances of being targeted with a kill tonight? I'm torn on Fate or Haw.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Who do your guys think has the most chances of being targeted with a kill tonight? I'm torn on Fate or Haw.
Day 1 was VA who was random choice? they made 10 total posts
Day 2 was zeke, who was largely absent at EoD and had an early vote on haw haw

it think its better to protect haw haw over me in case they shoot haw haw, but if they shoot me and i flip, its up to you guys to battle it out tomorrow
again there are pros and cons to both decision
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
Day 1 was VA who was random choice? they made 10 total posts
Day 2 was zeke, who was largely absent at EoD and had an early vote on haw haw

it think its better to protect haw haw over me in case they shoot haw haw, but if they shoot me and i flip, its up to you guys to battle it out tomorrow
again there are pros and cons to both decision

It's your call, Leo. I can see the argument that a good town vig would absolutely aim for Fate, but on the other hand the killer hasn't really played like a good town vig, whether they are or not. It's tough to predict their behavior from a sample of two kills, one of which might have been switched, when we don't even know their alignment.

Honestly you might as well flip a coin (I call tails)
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later

nin: ninja kill: Launchpad


Not sure exactly what the time difference is, but just putting this in just in case. Sorry to jump the gun nin.
 
Alright, I'm gonna protect Fate because if the town vig is going for a town read player there is a larger pool, they could go for Launch or Fran before Haw.

Heal: Funibs
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman

nin: ninja kill: Launchpad


Not sure exactly what the time difference is, but just putting this in just in case. Sorry to jump the gun nin.

No hard feelings, i mean we discussed who it was going to be and it was just a safe thing to do :). I can't wait for the next day phase to start. Will have more time to invest into this day phase.
 

Hawthorn

I'll explain my reasons later
No hard feelings, i mean we discussed who it was going to be and it was just a safe thing to do :). I can't wait for the next day phase to start. Will have more time to invest into this day phase.

I’m glad you did it with the real command though!
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
Will update the excel aswell as talk se more in depth about the potential players that could be pushed as soon as I arrive at home. Had a pretty busy weekend but I will be able to be back at
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i roleblocked stu, so we know they arnt the one doing it
i roleblocked launch as well
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Fran
EvilChameleon
Ynnek7
BoJack Horseman
rac
Blargonaut

one of these are the ones going around killing us
a 2nd scum team theory is right, haw haw took the shot they might have died before they could have shot?
 
Maybe haw actually was an impostor? And we have scum mates on the other team and we don't know who they are, and there's an impostor there too.

This is crazy
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
what if launch could kill any1 who visits him?
but then i would have died when i roleblocked them
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
because if stu is telling the truth about zipped then they had the same role as nin
 
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FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
hedin, since nin and haw haw are dead, i am promoting you to scum mate #3
can you tell me if roleblocker was ever a town role?
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
i did it myself since hedin is well hedin

in FGO mafia
we had a town roleblocker
i can claim that
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
idk up to you but i will look for more alternatives
the last thing i want to do is get lynched today and leave u here alone
 
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FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
huh you were scum roleblocker in horror movie leo?
so thats why u associate it with scum
 
You can, but it's risky cause you are already in a difficult position and we're down two (one?) people. I honestly don't know. I have to reread everything and think to try to figure out what's going on.
 
huh you were scum roleblocker in horror movie leo?
so thats why u associate it with scum

I don't remember my role in that game lol, but usually RB is a scum role cause if town uses it blindly it will most likely be detrimental to town.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
I don't remember my role in that game lol, but usually RB is a scum role cause if town uses it blindly it will most likely be detrimental to town.
hey guys
im actually roleblocker
i used it N2 on launch cuz fk launch
and n3 on stu because fk stu

yea lol, they would figure out im scum
cant justify saying why i used it on stu without sounding like i wanted to interfere with what they planned on doing
 
Exactly, even if you could make them believe you're a town roleblocker, there's no way a townie would rb Stu last night. I thought you could claim a tracker or watcher, but realized Stu didn't have to move cause rac is freaking dead, there's no one to visit lol

This is a prickly predicament.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
yea it is
doctor = rac is a tough pill to swallow
and that means that doctor dosnt exist, otherwise they will have counterclaimed
or maybe stu has more shots then they are letting off
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Hello there fellow teammates.
It's Kate and I will probably head to bed right away.

Here is my role though


Welcome to Fantasy Star Mafia!

You are Ruin and you are a Two-Shot Ninja.

You are aligned with the Villains of the Fiction Section (that is MAFIA).

You win when mafia takes up 50% of the remaining players.

You work in the shadows with others unaware of your actual activities. At night in lieu of the factional kill you may send the command Shadow Kill: Target and remain undetectable for that action. You have two shots of this power.

If you choose not to use your ability or you are out of shots, you and your teammates have a factional kill each night that can be used by submitting the command Kill: Target.
The Man with Thistledown Hair
it dosnt add up, am i reading this wrong?
 
I think Fran might be on the other scum team and might have slipped here:

Stu said that Zipped and Nin had the same role but never said that Nin was town. Nin could have been scum too and the only thing altered in his flip was the role.

He's implying the tailoring was done by the game runner and not the scum team, I don't think town would ever come to that conclusion. He could be on the other team and had the same info we did, that hedin could tailor the flips.
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
so what
stu and fran are the 2nd scum team making up 20% of the votes?
then me and you make up the other 20%

do you think we can win together?
probably not
 

FateShirou

ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Scum
Haw haw
Nin
Leo
Fate
Fran
Zipped
Stu

Neutral
VA
Geno

9 out of 18 players being scum or neutral
 
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