Spectator Thread Every day they're out there making duck puns
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Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Who was your town core?
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Myis because
we might as well called that neighbor chat “let’s tunnel and think we are the only cop so the other cops must be lying” chat
Lol yeah that makes sense. The kill didn't happen so can't know who they wanted but this was my thought yesterday
So that checks out haha
Leo
Quack Pack King
I've been meaning to come up with a joke with that. I know it's out there somewhere lol
Leo
Quack Pack King
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Leo, how frantic are the fake claims being cooked up in scum chat rn?
Leo
Quack Pack King
Well, they're taking their time, doing it at their own pace, we should get them sometime before D4 ends lol
I'm curious to see what they will come up with.
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Throwing this in spoiler tags since it involves some of Leo's hints. Scum spec/discussion:
LP in the woodchuck chat. Pain, I knew something about when Anex chose to rolefish on D1 was off lol I had barely got to questioning it before the EoD though lol then died, pain.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
*Envy
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
LOL VA's comment about the NK targets.
Salva wasn't the target, he protected the real target AKA ATP. What makes it even funnier is that ATP said in woodchuck chat "oh good I didn't get killed on night 1 again" 
So thank you for your sacrifice Salva \o/
So thank you for your sacrifice Salva \o/
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I see WSD rolls Fethry the sassy duck (keep on with those instincts WSD!)
Also hey I think this is the first time I've saw Ephi play since I joined the community
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I really like Bojack's post this morning that begins with "Let me run through everyone's claims so far". If town can get behind this post , I think they're on it.
Leo,
Leo,
assuming WSD is town (I still think it's most likely Malus here after LP, I would only look at WSD or HP if he was cleared), my guess is Fethry works as sleepwalker more thematically than anything to do with his appearance, kind of how you matched Donald with cryptic messenger? Wiki tells me he's very eccentric and is kind of in his world cooking up ideas. I see how sleepwalker fits with that.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Ah he was neutral, that makes sense!
Leo
Quack Pack King
That was a hella good post , I was very impressed!
Yeah, you've nailed it haha. Fethry isn't canonically a sleepwalker specifically, but he's the most likely character to be one, since his entire thing is that he's eccentric and weird. I needed a Sleepwalker in the game because of all the trackers/watchers, so Fethry fit that the best. Also his hat looking like one of those sleeping hats is a fortunate coincidence lol I wanted to give him something else so the player wouldn't feel they're entirely negative utility, but the game had too many powers already and I just couldn't fit another one just for the sake of it. Forgive me, WSD!
Leo
Quack Pack King
Launch replacing into scum chat as the only unclaimed person in a 60 page game:
I legit felt bad when sending him his PM lol
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
Sucks to see Random go. Thought he was doing a really good job. Really thought he was town
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Leo
Quack Pack King
We saw your breadcrumb in modchat \o/
Leo
Quack Pack King
Launch's powers are exactly the same as EC's.
They can commute to go get treasure, in which case they will be immune to any night actions except for stealing. When they commute, they get 1 quackillion dollars.
Or they can self watch, they will get no money and be immune to stealing, on top of catching anyone who targets them.
EC began the game with 3 quackillion dollars, Rando with 1. Rando wins when he outriches EC, and if that happens, EC dies.
Mafia still has a player that is able to use the money they can steal from either Scrooge or Glomgold for something ... And on top of that, Scrooge had the dime, which Magica could steal to get the double kills.
They can commute to go get treasure, in which case they will be immune to any night actions except for stealing. When they commute, they get 1 quackillion dollars.
Or they can self watch, they will get no money and be immune to stealing, on top of catching anyone who targets them.
EC began the game with 3 quackillion dollars, Rando with 1. Rando wins when he outriches EC, and if that happens, EC dies.
Mafia still has a player that is able to use the money they can steal from either Scrooge or Glomgold for something ... And on top of that, Scrooge had the dime, which Magica could steal to get the double kills.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Did scum try to kill EC last night then? The missing night kill was the last puzzle piece I think
Leo
Quack Pack King
No, they tried to kill rando lol he was commuting, hence why no kills
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Haha okay. I definitely had Anex on watch, the LP godfather check, I honestly can't say how I would have taken that or if I'd caught it in game without the hints in here but yeah, with LP in mind I've thought for a little bit here it had to be Malus also, the other claims all check out and get too complex. Sometimes it really is the two players barely posting and who claim almost last lol I can't believe I died night one and Anex/Lp and Malus have less posts than me still haha
Leo
Quack Pack King
Now scum knows who both scrooge and glomgold are, and they know they can steal from them to get a power up, they just have to pay attention to who will probably commute and who will self watch tonight (both could self watch, true, but i doubt launch will since he needs more money to win)
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Leo
Quack Pack King
Oh, and btw something has been puzzling malus forever now: on N2 he stole from Ty (Darkwing Duck) and got money, but where does Ty having fit money fit in this?
It goes down to Gladstone, who won the lottery on that night and won 1 quackillion dollars drawing the attention of all thieves in town. Gladstone passively redirected malus' steal to him on that night, that's how he got the money.
Fate is being informed of the effects he's having on the game, but he's keeping it close to his heart haha
It goes down to Gladstone, who won the lottery on that night and won 1 quackillion dollars drawing the attention of all thieves in town. Gladstone passively redirected malus' steal to him on that night, that's how he got the money.
Fate is being informed of the effects he's having on the game, but he's keeping it close to his heart haha
Leo
Quack Pack King
malus is ma beagle, a JOAT. He has a 1-shot roleblock and 1-shot rolecop, and he can buy more of these shots by exchanging 1 quackillion dollars that he can obtain by stealing.
So yeah, on that night he roleblocked neeks with an extra shot he got
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I gotta say, this is a really well designed game lol so many interesting interacts and opportunities for different roles to catch people in the act or block lol it's great, and it's really tested assumptions. And I like when the flavour ends up a really meaningful part of the game haha
Leo
Quack Pack King
Haha yeah, Bojack nailed it when he speculated that the game was supposed to be high info. Duckburg is a small town and the press is an important element in both the classic and remake, so i wanted to have a lot of people seeing a bunch of things during the night and then bringing it in the morning to see who would trust who.
It's also an experience with investigative roles, in that being a lot of them isn't garantee that town will win the game. They still have to work together and solve, because if they don't know who to trust, information doesn't help at all.
And yeah, i couldn't design the game without going full on crazy nerd on the flavor haha it was really fun
It's also an experience with investigative roles, in that being a lot of them isn't garantee that town will win the game. They still have to work together and solve, because if they don't know who to trust, information doesn't help at all.
And yeah, i couldn't design the game without going full on crazy nerd on the flavor haha it was really fun
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Totally agree, did Loki say this was Leo's first design? The flavor / power set is so cool, in particular I love the Negaduck, Roxanne and Phantom Blot roles.
Yeah Sneeks scum reading malus was the best shot at town hitting scum today I think. That said I think town are very likely to win with all the cards on the table, it might just take 2-3 days to hit scum.Sneeks, nooooo
What Malus actually said is I was paranoid...like Vere in the last game. Who was scum in that game lmao. Also she missed that that was actually where she and Ty picked up that I was *off*...
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
The living player in the game for me that is Town MVP is Bojack because he completed nailed a lot of the game speculation and even has suspicions but you Wizard are dead town MVPBoJack is crushing it today. I never thought to crumb as vanilla but I'm glad I tanked a night kill.
Town really nailed using their PRs to find town, even Ty and ninMalus + LP seem correct. If there is a third, I'm a little mind blown because all the remaining claims look good
You scared Leo and I in mod chat with some of your reads LOL.
I'd agree but it feels to me like it could really go either way right now. Before today I was like "town is fucked if they don't sus out LP" but people are actually susing him so maybe there's a chance :D
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Watching town try to solve this is making me hyped to do a game review.
Too much confirmation/information? Yeah probably, that's why there is a godfather mole to subvert it
Too many JOATs? 2 similar roles which complement each other and share flavor seem fine..
Too many trackers/watchers? Yeah probably, which is why town got a negative utility sleepwalker to disrupt that.
Too much protection? 2 commuters, a bodyguard, doctor shot, a protective item from the item giver (+whatever VA has if not the same) and a jailor who can block killers and victims.. hmm yeah maybe that is too much :D
Of course this line of thinking will always be predicated on what scum have to counter it, so town can't solve from it alone - e.g it would be reasonable to assume that so much protection might lead to a strong kill. All this info gives you is towns strengths, which hint at scum strengths to counter.
Too much confirmation/information? Yeah probably, that's why there is a godfather mole to subvert it
Too many JOATs? 2 similar roles which complement each other and share flavor seem fine..
Too many trackers/watchers? Yeah probably, which is why town got a negative utility sleepwalker to disrupt that.
Too much protection? 2 commuters, a bodyguard, doctor shot, a protective item from the item giver (+whatever VA has if not the same) and a jailor who can block killers and victims.. hmm yeah maybe that is too much :D
Of course this line of thinking will always be predicated on what scum have to counter it, so town can't solve from it alone - e.g it would be reasonable to assume that so much protection might lead to a strong kill. All this info gives you is towns strengths, which hint at scum strengths to counter.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Kyan flip will be :( after fighting to save him day 2 only for him to get a green on the godfather.
I wonder if town will notice that if Kyan is telling the truth, he is the only player besides malus who can actually get them new information tomorrow with his tracking shot
I wonder if town will notice that if Kyan is telling the truth, he is the only player besides malus who can actually get them new information tomorrow with his tracking shot
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
LOL scum kept Kyan alive hoping he'd check LP and sure enough \o/
They also kept Zeke alive to get scum in the chat
They rolecopped him night 1, and Anex knew about it ahead of time which is actually why he said Junior as Bojack pointed out
malus was even telling LP to breadcrumb more he was recruitable only for LP to get recruited anyways because of Anex' work XD
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
BoJack Horseman said:
Poor BoJack if votes go Kyan -> BoJack, BoJack had info that could catch a scum lie and town were just like "nah tell us now"
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
They rolecopped him night 1, and Anex knew about it ahead of time which is actually why he said Junior as Bojack pointed out
malus was even telling LP to breadcrumb more he was recruitable only for LP to get recruited anyways because of Anex' work XD
Oh my god lol this one is gonna be especially brutal if they pull it off
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Just checked in and it looks like it will be another contentious day end. HP looks likely, and TBH kinda excited to see the alternate flavor and open things up for a well deserved Rando/Launch win.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
malus living through to next day should be a red flag for town. Interestingly malus and LP are town reading each other currently.. malus putting LP as town because of godfather / mole likelihood while scum leaning Ephi and not fully town reading Zeke seems like the kind of thing Zeke might pounce on if he can get out of his tunnel.
Malus claiming he jailed LP could be an interesting out, but risky.
Malus claiming he jailed LP could be an interesting out, but risky.
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Leo does LP still have ninja shots? Kyan tracking him could be a great snipe
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Zeke tomorrow if Kyan does this: alright so there can be a mole in the woodchucks, we still vote Kyan
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Nope he's out. I can't remember if Malus can buy one once he gets money or not tho.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Zeke planning on lying about his target to the woodchucks to see if there's a mole. I guess he wants kyan to check him to see if Kyan says his actual target or the one he told the chucks because if it's the one he told them it means there's a mole and they told obviously scum kyan.
This is of course not factoring
1. Scum blocking Kyan
2. Scum blocking him
3. Scum killing him or Kyan
4. There is a mole, but Kyan is town.
5. Holy fuck Kyan is town Zeke.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
There was also the time in Easy Allies Mafia where I forgot to include the Mafia Faction Kill in all of the Mafia's PMs...View attachment 699
WSD
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Fun fact: Sometimes not one but three people fuck up. I should know since i was a reviewer.
I mean I made Nier: Automata Mafia and completely forgot Red Girl was even a thing and Vere and the two reviewers didn't even remind me about her.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Yep. :D Game Runners and their reviewers make mistakes.
I forgot to give Hedin aka Medea a neutral a fake claim and had to make one at the start of the game XD
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Okay that's actually a pretty decent plan. You're right about the counters, but from a town POV scum should be wanting to kill malus tonight and wouldn't want to block Zeke (wouldn't mind blocking Kyan)
Of course the main counter would be.. pushing town to vote Kyan out today so you lose all of this information.
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
which is exactly what he's doing.
Not to mention the fact that scum isn't killing Malus for obvious reasons.
Leo
Quack Pack King
He had 2, but doesn't have any anymore. malus can only buy a rolecop or a roleblock shot
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Proud member of the BoJack + Ephi fan club
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
As in you ship them? orrrrr
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
No lol I think they're just two really strong townies today with their solving. Sneeks is pretty close to catching malus too :D
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
oh okay :D
Ephi is sus of LP which is great to see. and I've already sung Bojack's praises XD
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I will concur that we've had some great players today getting so close to the answers haha town have a really good shot. Mafia have honestly played a great game for the opening they had too and the claims were a gift to them in terms of being able to steal money but it'll be interesting as the numbers reduce how they keep explaining actions
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Last minute LP wagon let's go
The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Donnie
Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Lmfao poor Kyan
Leo
Quack Pack King
lol this is everything
Leo
Quack Pack King
I'm low key wishing HP would die because I'm running out of jokes >.>
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WSD
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Fun fact: Sometimes not one but three people fuck up. I should know since i was a reviewer.
I mean I made Nier: Automata Mafia and completely forgot Red Girl was even a thing and Vere and the two reviewers didn't even remind me about her.
Yep in both of my games so far there were minor typos in the PMs that were just missed despite being looked at several times. Luckily none of them greatly affected the games but I do think in Dad Joke it might have slightly influenced it.
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
I will never NEVER grill someone for having a weird typo in their role PM after The Thing
Kyanrute
kyan-rute
Hard for poor meanies. Hugbox needs to stay intact for two days at least, after that people might not be willing to test more than one person out of it. malus' claim was understandable and good for the situation, but his survival will look bad the day after tomorrow. Launch cannot be pushed, they need the time that they get from him winning. VA, Ty and maybe even Hawthorn are never getting voted out, that already reserves 50% of the kills that they need to make before winning.
This can blow up in so many unpredictable ways though, so they have that going for them.
This can blow up in so many unpredictable ways though, so they have that going for them.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
Chuggernaut
HONK HONK MF
"So we kill Bojack now?"
lokiduck
Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
It's funny you joke about that because
Guess who he wants to vote next.
(LP also supported this idea going "there's too much investigation for town >:("
SalvaPot
YEAH
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Oh boy! Here we got scum!
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Hawthorn
I'll explain my reasons later
As I said to Leo, it's for the best that I got killed ... since I never fully caught up. Nonetheless I enjoyed my cameo appearance, especially getting to see this very careful design unfold itself.
Agree BoJack is killing it. I was suspecting him because of falling for the supposed JOAT conflict, but his posts were pretty much turning it around for me. I don't think I would have pushed for him today. I do like to think I would have seen LP, but never Malus. Malus is all set to make it to endgame, and LP is now confirmed town in many people's eyes -- I predict a mafia victory, despite the two early kills.
I have more serious stuff to say about some of the things that happened earlier in the game, but I'll save it for the post game discussion. For now I'll just say quack.
Agree BoJack is killing it. I was suspecting him because of falling for the supposed JOAT conflict, but his posts were pretty much turning it around for me. I don't think I would have pushed for him today. I do like to think I would have seen LP, but never Malus. Malus is all set to make it to endgame, and LP is now confirmed town in many people's eyes -- I predict a mafia victory, despite the two early kills.
I have more serious stuff to say about some of the things that happened earlier in the game, but I'll save it for the post game discussion. For now I'll just say quack.