80s Wrestling Mafia - Scum Thread

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Welcome to the Scum Thread!

Keep in mind, all normal game rules apply here as well.

Your teammates are:
Zookfoodle
Zippedpinhead
Sawneeks
Ephidel
Oliver James


Your safe flavor claims are:
Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat
The Iron Sheik
The Honky Tonk Man
Junkyard Dog
Bruiser Brody


You can post your whole Role PMs in here to share with each other, and can enter your commands in here at night.
 
Hi guys! Im bobby "the brain" heenan, and i have a 1 shot bulletproof vest thatll protect me from a single kill, but i wont know when its been used
 
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Sawneeks

little green dog
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everyone loves me. because of my ravishing and amazing body i can roleblock people. no x-shots or nothin, just a full blown roleblocker, babbyyy
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
oh probably should've posted the name. I'm "Ravishing" Rick Rude.

and the 80s was well before i was born so a lot of this lore is going to go right over my head. Andre and Ric Flair are two I know but not in the context of the WWF.

excited to be in this crew though, and with the new wrestling officianado Ephi herself!
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
You can post your whole Role PMs in here to share with each other, and can enter your commands in here at night.
*double checks Fanto said this*
*looks at everyone not actually posting their PMs and instead sumarising them*

Nope. Nope nope nope. Played that game already, saw the confusion that's caused before.

Let's do this properly eh? XD

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You are King Kong Bundy, the Nexus, and you are aligned with the Heenan Family (Mafia).

Weighing in at over 450 pounds, you are a huge force to be reckoned with, things just kind of bounce off of you and go in random directions. Except like, bullets, of course.

Any actions targeting you at night will be redirected to a random player, except kills.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
I cannot be tracked or investigated. Yay
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So I'm guessing when Zipped isn't stronging, possibly due to his plan to crumb mafia to the thread with his gif game, it will probably be me submitting kills.

On the other hand I can be targeted by kills and in thread actions.
If I am unlucky I can probably be blamed for all sorts of things I didn't actually do with no easy way of working out what anyone who so much as glances my way think they've seen.
And with my luck if someone cops me it will bounce to one of you so I get red checked anyway, lol.

As I understand it proper town nexuses should actually claim early. And probably get voted out for it. So playing it straight isn't an option unless I think I can pull off "whoops, didn't realise that's how I was meant to play" or "I refuse to accept there's only one way to play" and I don't think I can pull that off like Wiz kinda did :p
But enough of all that. Problems for another day.

I'm looking forward to playing with you
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I'm a new convert to wrestling and I've been enjoying watching it on discord lately. Not exactly familiar with these 80s folks though
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I think thanks to the Princess bride (and the fact that there are so many heel houses in 80’s wrestling) that crumbing my actual role using Princess Bride Gifs is a solid play.

however, if y’all disagree then I won’t. We are a team, and I want to do what’s best for the team.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
I was joking, I don't actually mind what gifset you use XD

You just might get a little sideeye if one of us flips and someone else is more familiar with the flavour than I am :P
 
Especially you zoom, Bobby the brain was apparently Andre the giants right hand during that time, if he flips I would get massive side eye if I claimed Andre right away but com’on
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Are just heart warming and endearing!
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
*double checks Fanto said this*
*looks at everyone not actually posting their PMs and instead sumarising them*

Nope. Nope nope nope. Played that game already, saw the confusion that's caused before.

Let's do this properly eh? XD

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You are King Kong Bundy, the Nexus, and you are aligned with the Heenan Family (Mafia).

Weighing in at over 450 pounds, you are a huge force to be reckoned with, things just kind of bounce off of you and go in random directions. Except like, bullets, of course.

Any actions targeting you at night will be redirected to a random player, except kills.
ohhh fine fine fineee

“Ravishing” Rick Rude, the Roleblocker, and you are aligned with the Heenan Family (Mafia).

As the ravishing one himself, people stop what they’re doing when they see your amazing body.

At night, you may submit the command Roleblock: Player Name to block your target from performing any actions that night.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I cannot be tracked or investigated. Yay
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So I'm guessing when Zipped isn't stronging, possibly due to his plan to crumb mafia to the thread with his gif game, it will probably be me submitting kills.

On the other hand I can be targeted by kills and in thread actions.
If I am unlucky I can probably be blamed for all sorts of things I didn't actually do with no easy way of working out what anyone who so much as glances my way think they've seen.
And with my luck if someone cops me it will bounce to one of you so I get red checked anyway, lol.

As I understand it proper town nexuses should actually claim early. And probably get voted out for it. So playing it straight isn't an option unless I think I can pull off "whoops, didn't realise that's how I was meant to play" or "I refuse to accept there's only one way to play" and I don't think I can pull that off like Wiz kinda did :p
But enough of all that. Problems for another day.

I'm looking forward to playing with you
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I'm a new convert to wrestling and I've been enjoying watching it on discord lately. Not exactly familiar with these 80s folks though
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for you it might just be beneficial to not claim any redirect since that would work well with getting you cleared by a possible cop. it just gets messy if there's a watcher but, eh, we can work with the claim as we go along. think whatever your fake ends up being it should be something that doesn't move and any 'contradictions' could be explained away as a switcher. :p

and zipped im fine if you want to post princess bride! dunno how immediate people would be to connect andre with scum but you should be fine just posting them. people have posted villain gifs before in games and it wasnt a red flag.
 
Oh I forgot to copy in the particulars of my role.

here is the beef:

At night, you may submit the command Strongman: Player Name to override the Mafia faction kill and go through any protection on your target.
 
what's giving you that vibe? cant say i've read that game
Everyone is trying really hard to act townie, and we even have a sub optimal Miller claim.

it’s not normal shit posting and survival.

it feels a lot more like “I’m scum and I want to win who are we killing tonight”.

A good way to check would be to flip the claimed Miller. If Jman flips Miller then unless that’s the one townie in a sea of scum, we are dealing with a nice one large scum team game.

I’m discounting a second scum team because of our size and the size of the game. 4 sets of 5 makes sense, but really just cause it’s got that smarmy cheeky feeling.
 
Also the mass claim day 1 idea REEKS of “let’s figure out the best targets and hide” scum play.

not like hey let’s try and blow the game wide open town play
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Ah okay. I could see that since we have a BP and a redirect but i'd wait until we have another scum team to really nail it down. we should know by the end of this day phase tho

God I fall asleep for a couple of hours on day one and people are already *playing*, what's happening
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memes, ephi. memes.
 
first thing that came to mind when Jman claimed Hogan was to post some of the andre the giant vs Hogan fight in this thread... but I will refrain at his request in game thread
 
Rover said:
2) If there's a swapper of some kind in the mix (and in role madness, I'm expecting fuckery), you are now a known scum result and would be an easy conduit for false positives for investigators.

Hey can we do this?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Zeke may be a decent cop check target for us. gonna wait until he shows back up and then what he does but usually a quiet zeke means he has something cool he wants to use role-wise and therefore doesnt want to die.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
Zeke may be a decent cop check target for us. gonna wait until he shows back up and then what he does but usually a quiet zeke means he has something cool he wants to use role-wise and therefore doesnt want to die.
Do you want me to check him out at night?
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Zook said to wish you all well, something came up and he had to drop out unfortunately.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Do you want me to check him out at night?
really thinking about it, yeah. i'm open to other targets though if anyone has any tho
are we going to want to strongman tonight, or send in the NK via our nexus?
hmm, let's see how things wrap up at day end. i'm tempted to say strongkill donnie or chuggs just to get the loud helpful voices out but we may find someone claiming towards the end we want instead.
Zook said to wish you all well, something came up and he had to drop out unfortunately.
Hope everything is okay, zook!
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Re: hot take #1 it's actually me trying to take some lessons from my champs game. I feel like I got some continuing education credits from my qualifier and trying to see how to apply what I picked up with how I usually approach things.
Hedin this is for when you read it later but I 100% agree with how you played jman's claim. obviously not going to say this in the thread but taking those hard stances gave a direction in a fairly wishy washy state of the game and got stuff rolling, not to mention helped clear up jman. now maybe im wrong and you're a neutral or something but im banking on you being town and im hoping you keep this continuing ed play going.

shame im gonna use it to help push for your death later on but maybe town will learn something after the fact :p
 
Haven’t hit post quota? What you about Donnie?!? I’m right at 10, at least I’m pretty sure.

Gotta balance minimum plays mostly memes as my day 1 opening!
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
Haven’t hit post quota? What you about Donnie?!? I’m right at 10, at least I’m pretty sure.

Gotta balance minimum plays mostly memes as my day 1 opening!
The vote tool inflates counts sometimes, I think we're both slightly under the bar at the moment despite the tool saying we're clear.
It's more obvious if you iso low post count people because the lack of posts is immediately visible, whereas obviously nobody is going to count high voters to see how out it is.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
a thought i had before going to bed last night. rover bounced off jman when it was pointed out that a cop existing likely means a miller exists. rover is the kinda player who would make assumptions about the gamestate even if he wasnt the cop but - and i say this with an emphasis on the but - maybe rover is the cop? and thats why he backed off?
 
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I might catch some heat for asking these questions today, because I know it really looks like fake interest in a vote. but I really am short on time today. So if I have to serve a nothing burger... I guess I'll eat it as well.
 
Just saying that today's day will be the only one I'll be available at day end. I'll be working on the others unfortunately but might be checking the phone if work is light.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
my biggest fear this game are night actions. me thinks we got some bullets flying and a cop running free. hedin seems to imply there's a hunter/flavor hunter out there too but we'll see with his flip (if it's still him, vote tool is fucked)
 
vote tool is broke AF. Who do we think actually is being sent out of the ring?
Should still be Hedin if my count is correct.
my biggest fear this game are night actions. me thinks we got some bullets flying and a cop running free. hedin seems to imply there's a hunter/flavor hunter out there too but we'll see with his flip (if it's still him, vote tool is fucked)
Yeah there's either a town vig/SK here, I'd love for Hedin to be a hunter, he'd take out Zeke and that'd be lovely.
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Our team:

2-shot Strongman

1-shot BP

Nexus (nothing can target them except kills)

Roleblocker

Role Cop
gonna go work but what are we thinking for these tonight?

not sure what the strategy is with scum role cops - do we check people we think will live long or people we think have roles?

also open for a RB suggestion and who to kill. Donnie would've been my pick but his vote there at the end should give him heat so im k with keeping him. Kopite is a good low info kill. what are people thinking

only claims we have are:
Miller - Jman
Loved - HP

everyone else is a shrug.
 
I think: Role Cop a non vocal town player, kill a mid player that's doesn't have heat on them, roleblock a vocal town player. Unless someone caught anyone hinting at their role.
 
I think Blocking or Kill Rover would be a good play. Mid-pack semi vocal player, and we already think that Rover could be able to check alignment.

Role cop? not sure maybe EC or ATP?
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
I think: Role Cop a non vocal town player, kill a mid player that's doesn't have heat on them, roleblock a vocal town player. Unless someone caught anyone hinting at their role.
yeah, i like this idea. My suggestions would be;

Role Cop: Purely on post count would be Kopite but im kinda feeling a Turm/Zeke check.
Kill: nin? most people have heat on them and the one's that dont are either us (lol) or claimed like Jman and HP. could also put ATP here i s'pose
Roleblock: Rover would be good if he gets heat again and he couldnt provide any info. Or we could go Bold and hit Chuggs/Donnie.

I did catch EC randomly defending Fate pretty openly after the triple vote during the middle of the day. Dunno if that's just EC-being-EC or they are actually buddies of some kind.
Hm, why does it say one roleblock though? If they were targeted by 2 then 1 would go through? A hint at a town roleblocker?
Hmmm, yeah, it's worded like it's anticipating two roleblocks. Dunno if that means a town RB or an item that can RB or what but it does imply multiple sources.
actually who wanted the mass claim the most?
Turm started it, Rover kept bringing it up, and Jman focused on it a bit.
Looks like LP is on you Sawneeks, who are we taking out tonight?
Eh, unless LP is a cop im not toooo worried. ATP was wondering why i didnt move my vote either so there's some eyebrow raise. should be fine

i say before LP is actually the cop and im fucked lol
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Will wait for Ephi to come chime in but I dont think we need to stronman kill tonight. i would expect a doc on a louder person then the mid ground.

so far the suggestions are;

Role Cop: Kopite, Turm, Zeke, EC, or ATP
Kill: Rover, nin, ATP
Roleblock: Rover, Chuggs, Donnie

dont hold back on throwing names out! we're all in fairly different timezones so it's best to discuss this now and not closer to day end.
 

Isaac

Oh, yeah!
I'm fine with RC who you all want to RC since you all know how the others play more than I do

For Kopite maybe it's just general disinterest in Day 1? Honestly I wouldn't know the day started if I hadn't checked back on the thread.
 
Will wait for Ephi to come chime in but I dont think we need to stronman kill tonight. i would expect a doc on a louder person then the mid ground.

so far the suggestions are;

Role Cop: Kopite, Turm, Zeke, EC, or ATP
Kill: Rover, nin, ATP
Roleblock: Rover, Chuggs, Donnie

dont hold back on throwing names out! we're all in fairly different timezones so it's best to discuss this now and not closer to day end.
I agree with the names you posted, the ones I prefer from this list are
RC:Turmoil
Kill nin
RB Chuggs
 

Sawneeks

little green dog
Hey Fanto are we allowed to submit other's night actions in case someone isn't around?

Probably gonna put in my RB before bed just in case work is busy tomorrow and I miss the deadline. Cool if folks want to change it tho
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
Hey Fanto are we allowed to submit other's night actions in case someone isn't around?
Yep, just submit their name, then the action, then the target, so I have all the relevant info.

So if it was for you, someone would say "Sawneeks: Roleblock: Player A" in highlight, just makes it easier for me that way.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
Morning, sorry about yesterday. I didn't mean to duck near EOD, my phone signal was so spotty I gave up on keeping up and once I got home I just crashed.

I do expect to be around for others, and at an actual computer so that shouldn't be an issue.

I'd have felt obligated to sit on that vote anyway as I was the one pushing it, but I could at least have said I could see something and wanted to stick with it instead of being non-present. Oh well.

I can't say I actually expected Hedin to go out when I chose him to go for.
Mostly glad Hedin is gone before he can be scary, but a little sad that late fate swing didn't work, might have been fun to tunnel the fuck out of people for veering away to save him :(
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
actually who wanted the mass claim the most?
From the tally I kept as I was going through, other than turmoil suggesting it in the first place
Yeses were Jman, ATP, EC, You
Nos were Rover, Sparks, Chuggs, Fate
Well, Rover started as a no but seemed for it by the time he was bringing it up for the fifth or so time.

I'm not actually sure any of the yeses are from people that could be taken as giving them seriously.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
By the way I'm a role cop, I was thinking we can pull off claiming a watcher role?
Role cop with shots, or role cop in perpetuity?

not sure what the strategy is with scum role cops - do we check people we think will live long or people we think have roles?

I can see the case for either.
If someone is a particular concern and you feel the need to know what they might come out with, go with them.
Otherwise I'd probably err towards those who are likely to live long naturally, if only to find out if we're likely to need to make them living less long a priority.

Kopite is a good low info kill. what are people thinking
He wouldn't be a priority for me yet because we might be able to push him later. Unless you think he's likely to come out with something particularly towny. I'm not sure I've ever actually played with a town version of him.

Kill: Rover, nin, ATP
Of these I prefer Nin. Rover might still get some sideeye because of the way he thinks things through, and if anyone actually pays attention to Hedin in death they might look at ATP.

Unless someone caught anyone hinting at their role.
The only thing I have is a tinfoil theory that Donnie is a neutral based on the absolute nothing that is a thanos gif and his very strong reaction to being scumread by someone most people weren't even listening to and maybe being overconcerned about how his EOD vote looked.
I'm currently trying to work out if the latter sections of it are something I can ask about in thread today in a believable fashion.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
I agree with the names you posted, the ones I prefer from this list are
RC:Turmoil
Kill nin
RB Chuggs

I'm good with these.

But, ah, as I went to write the command I realised there's something I need to check first.

I just noticed my role PM doesn't actually say I have or can use a factional kill and none of you have actually posted enough of your PMs for me to compare.

We, uh, we're not in one of those games, right @Fanto
We do have a factional kill and I'm allowed to submit it right?
 
oh btw I think it's better if I do the kill? That way if they have something that can fuck us over I can avoid it with my BP and we'll also know if it was spent since the flip will tell us.
 

Fanto

Confirmed Town
I just noticed my role PM doesn't actually say I have or can use a factional kill and none of you have actually posted enough of your PMs for me to compare.

We, uh, we're not in one of those games, right @Fanto
We do have a factional kill and I'm allowed to submit it right?
Call me Britney Spears, because oops, I did it again.

Yes, you all have a factional kill. Just pretend your PM says something like "You can also use the factional kill with the command Kill: Player Name" or whatever.

I will edit that in to your PMs when you flip.
 
Call me Britney Spears, because oops, I did it again.

Yes, you all have a factional kill. Just pretend your PM says something like "You can also use the factional kill with the command Kill: Player Name" or whatever.

I will edit that in to your PMs when you flip.
I also assume we can't kill and use our night action at the same time right? Except if we are the last remaining member I assume.
 

Ephidel

How do you do, fellow mafia?
oh btw I think it's better if I do the kill? That way if they have something that can fuck us over I can avoid it with my BP and we'll also know if it was spent since the flip will tell us.
I'm okay with it if you want to play minesweeper for us :eyes:
 
Just depends if you're concerned with being tracked.
I don't think that's likely, I think the tracker would go for a more vocal townie or someone that was suspected d1, I wouldn't be surprised if they went after Zeke or Fate.
 
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