80s Wrestling Mafia - Scum Thread
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Sawneeks
little green dog
Ah wait, reading more it's a bit more complicated. Turm gets to pick a King during the Night and they get to decide who dies during the next day.
Wonder who got it
Yes that's also true, I would assume this role is 1 shot.
Very early to say but I doubt he's worth killing next night even if he hasn't used the shot, if one of us ends up as king then that's huge.
Zippedpinhead
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the kingmaker may need to die...
I really do wonder just how much death we get when day start occurs.
I really do wonder just how much death we get when day start occurs.
Zippedpinhead
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I Crumbed iron sheik and Andre, so I can go either way.
Zippedpinhead
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LP said:
Does LP know something we don't about the Fate death?
Zippedpinhead
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH
Zeke and Funky, is this a bit?
Zeke and Funky, is this a bit?
Zippedpinhead
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Zeke and Sparks. is this a bit?
Zippedpinhead
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tag teams make sense in this game. I just...
would there really only be the one though? I can't still galaxy brain that this is BR2.0, I'm sure its not.
unless our kill doesn't work tonight and we still have two people die...
Sawneeks
little green dog
Realistically I'd kill zeke over sparks. Zeke can tunnel hard on a townie but he can easily zero in to scum. Sparks is a wild card but you can direct that energy.
Oh absolutely, but it's just a crappy situation to be in.
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
None of them mean anything to me so you can take your pick.
I'm also really sorry I seem to have flagged the scumdars coming into today, I messed up.
That's fine, I hope I'll be able to switch to Rover by day end.
Zippedpinhead
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I do it all the time, even when I'm town. It happens.
Tell me if I am wrong though, are all the top vote-getters for today low posters from yesterday? Just trying to see if there is a pattern
Zippedpinhead
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Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I have no problem with you bussing me, I'm quite capable of seeing this isn't looking good. I'm just angry at myself that he caught me again.
Having a fight with me would probably hurt you, honestly. I'd probably fuck up and incriminate you somehow at this rate.
Having a fight with me would probably hurt you, honestly. I'd probably fuck up and incriminate you somehow at this rate.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Nah, don't be so hard on yourself Ephi. This feels like a town that doesn't have too much of a direction and are just zeroing in on whatever they can - which unfortunately in this case is you and zipped. ATP coming back in with such force is really mucking things up and making this a lot harder.
Likely gonna push both of you and vote zipped for a while. Going to also push up others as we go and hopefully jump off late like Geno. It's unfortunate to bus so early but with how big our team is, it's kind of inveitable. Just keep going and play as you will - maybe start thinking of fakeclaims for the both of you just in case. You know how town can be at day end when a good claim comes out and they all scatter :p
Likely gonna push both of you and vote zipped for a while. Going to also push up others as we go and hopefully jump off late like Geno. It's unfortunate to bus so early but with how big our team is, it's kind of inveitable. Just keep going and play as you will - maybe start thinking of fakeclaims for the both of you just in case. You know how town can be at day end when a good claim comes out and they all scatter :p
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
Okay. I'm trying to work out which direction I am best off leaning in here.
Basically, I don't know if whoever I try to weight my suspicion towards at comes out looking better or worse with me in my current position where I don't think people are particularly inclined to listen to me.
And before I go back into the thread I need to work out how to answer ATP's question and I know damn well the answer needs to look like I've been considering Zipped and Rover.
I also find myself incredibly tempted to point out that The Roverlution demanded attention yesterday, yet today with him being potentially on the line today he has faded into the background and let me (and Zipped) take the brunt of it. I'm not sure he's even weighed in on the vote yet, nor has anyone really paid him much attention at all (Zeke voted there but I don't think he said why).
But I don't want to poison the well if you think that would be better coming from someone else who doesn't look like flailing scum. What do you think?
Basically, I don't know if whoever I try to weight my suspicion towards at comes out looking better or worse with me in my current position where I don't think people are particularly inclined to listen to me.
And before I go back into the thread I need to work out how to answer ATP's question and I know damn well the answer needs to look like I've been considering Zipped and Rover.
I also find myself incredibly tempted to point out that The Roverlution demanded attention yesterday, yet today with him being potentially on the line today he has faded into the background and let me (and Zipped) take the brunt of it. I'm not sure he's even weighed in on the vote yet, nor has anyone really paid him much attention at all (Zeke voted there but I don't think he said why).
But I don't want to poison the well if you think that would be better coming from someone else who doesn't look like flailing scum. What do you think?
Sawneeks
little green dog
Hmmm.
It's hard to tell since we can't know how town will take you flipping scum and what they view your pushes as. Chuggs said earlier with zipped that he thinks your push there is a push on a townie to save yourself - but i dont know if that holds up over time or not, not to mention what other players think.
my experience in this isnt as great compared to the others here and i know you dont want to wait until they may be online. i'd say go with what you had in mind with Zipped and Rover but focus more on Zipped over Rover. We still have time left in the day for you to 'learn something new' and reshift your vote to another player even if you started on Zipped. try not to force too much of a direction or conversation - go with what you think town Ephi would do here even if you think it gets you scumread. town ephi wouldnt care if her read got her scumread since that's still her read, yknow.
Sawneeks
little green dog
lol im down for another gambit.
kinda worried about skipping since we have so many semi-confirmed townies but playing safe isnt always playing fun. :p
also speaking of, i had a crazy idea of ephi or zipped claiming cop to get the real cop out if we're worried. not sure we're ready for THAT level of crazy but since we're discussing options i wanna throw it out.
also planning to see what i can get away with as scum. i might just defend ephi for funsies
kinda worried about skipping since we have so many semi-confirmed townies but playing safe isnt always playing fun. :p
also speaking of, i had a crazy idea of ephi or zipped claiming cop to get the real cop out if we're worried. not sure we're ready for THAT level of crazy but since we're discussing options i wanna throw it out.
also planning to see what i can get away with as scum. i might just defend ephi for funsies
Sawneeks
little green dog
Claims:
Jman - Miller
HP - Loved
Sparks/Zeke - Masons? (possible lovers, dunno)
EC - Vanilla
What we know only;
Chuggs N1 - RBed. So unless he got around it, he's not a big/SK
Turm N1 - cop check. Kingmaker
Dead;
3 shot tracker
Jailer
2 shot Will booster aka 'power through roleblock'
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also not sure if LP was hinting at being the Vig earlier this day. he said a vig doesnt shoot a miller N1 and was pretty confident that fate died from a vig.
Jman - Miller
HP - Loved
Sparks/Zeke - Masons? (possible lovers, dunno)
EC - Vanilla
What we know only;
Chuggs N1 - RBed. So unless he got around it, he's not a big/SK
Turm N1 - cop check. Kingmaker
Dead;
3 shot tracker
Jailer
2 shot Will booster aka 'power through roleblock'
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also not sure if LP was hinting at being the Vig earlier this day. he said a vig doesnt shoot a miller N1 and was pretty confident that fate died from a vig.
Tbh it could work, since a cop might not even exist, we flipped a tracker.lol im down for another gambit.
kinda worried about skipping since we have so many semi-confirmed townies but playing safe isnt always playing fun. :p
also speaking of, i had a crazy idea of ephi or zipped claiming cop to get the real cop out if we're worried. not sure we're ready for THAT level of crazy but since we're discussing options i wanna throw it out.
also planning to see what i can get away with as scum. i might just defend ephi for funsies
Caught that too, my head is dizzy with those semi confirmed townies, if the vig claims then nobody will vote there, if turm claims then they will avoid him as well, I think we need strong believable claims to live to endgame.
Sawneeks
little green dog
but we do have a miller so it gives credence to a cop
saaaame. we're kinda in a bad spot when it comes to all that.
it's why im gunning for a bodyguard claim even though it may easily get countered, especially if a Doc exists. but this game feels like a go big situation for us.
It's been a while since I've seen one but red herring roles do exist sometimes, things like backup doc without doc existing or miller and godfather without cops. Ofc yeah more likely there is one. Imagine if jman is some 3rd party lying lol.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Gonna summarize these so ya'll have some ideas on who to pick to make em match;
Your safe flavor claims are:
Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat - likely who im going to grab tbh. he has a thing where he gets injured by Savage and then comes back and protects wrestlers from Savage doing it again.
The Iron Sheik - A heel (aka villain) that helped propel Hogan into the spotlight. He's known for being attention-seeking and hating/disliking the US by being a character that was pro-Iran and anti-US.
The Honky Tonk Man - Based on Elvis Presley. He would hit opponents with a guitar and was considered a bit of a villain character at times. Was champion for a record 64 weeks.
Junkyard Dog - Wasn't with the WWF for long and was a mid-card wrestler that was a babyface (aka a good guy). His most notable thing I could find is he would interact with younger fans after matches and bring them into the ring to dance.
Bruiser Brody - Can't find much on this guy. His style was a hardcore brawler and he was known for leaving his opponents beaten and bloody afterwards.
Your safe flavor claims are:
Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat - likely who im going to grab tbh. he has a thing where he gets injured by Savage and then comes back and protects wrestlers from Savage doing it again.
The Iron Sheik - A heel (aka villain) that helped propel Hogan into the spotlight. He's known for being attention-seeking and hating/disliking the US by being a character that was pro-Iran and anti-US.
The Honky Tonk Man - Based on Elvis Presley. He would hit opponents with a guitar and was considered a bit of a villain character at times. Was champion for a record 64 weeks.
Junkyard Dog - Wasn't with the WWF for long and was a mid-card wrestler that was a babyface (aka a good guy). His most notable thing I could find is he would interact with younger fans after matches and bring them into the ring to dance.
Bruiser Brody - Can't find much on this guy. His style was a hardcore brawler and he was known for leaving his opponents beaten and bloody afterwards.
Sawneeks
little green dog
think we can turn scum meta against town as well in some cases if ya'll are comfortable with it.
"scum doesn't stack" - don't be afraid to stack if that's what town you would do
"scum doesn't bus" - lol, you know what to do
"scum wouldn't claim such a ridiculous role" - Ephi i feel like you could have fun crafting up a wrestling-specific role if you wanted to.
and the many other weird metas we have. i say we break em
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above all, even though Chuggs/ATP/HP seem to be strongly against Ephi we still have well over 10 players that HAVENT voted yet! Zeke is still a wildcard and a loud voice that can shift narratives very fast. He's also not afraid to take on chuggs, meaning he will fight back on Ephi's vote if he thinks it's sus. Sparks will likely follow him. The rest can still be convinced - hell, even the 3 I mentioned can still be convinced. Town don't know they're right and can still be swayed! Rover is a good place to go if they stay on the hedin voters but even then the majority might just go elsewhere.
we got this, team! and even if one of us does get voted out today we still have 4 of us left - way more than enough to win.
"scum doesn't stack" - don't be afraid to stack if that's what town you would do
"scum doesn't bus" - lol, you know what to do
"scum wouldn't claim such a ridiculous role" - Ephi i feel like you could have fun crafting up a wrestling-specific role if you wanted to.
and the many other weird metas we have. i say we break em
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above all, even though Chuggs/ATP/HP seem to be strongly against Ephi we still have well over 10 players that HAVENT voted yet! Zeke is still a wildcard and a loud voice that can shift narratives very fast. He's also not afraid to take on chuggs, meaning he will fight back on Ephi's vote if he thinks it's sus. Sparks will likely follow him. The rest can still be convinced - hell, even the 3 I mentioned can still be convinced. Town don't know they're right and can still be swayed! Rover is a good place to go if they stay on the hedin voters but even then the majority might just go elsewhere.
we got this, team! and even if one of us does get voted out today we still have 4 of us left - way more than enough to win.
Sawneeks
little green dog
also gonna voice it now but i think we kill ATP tonight. strong kill. he's come back far too townie for my liking and his day end vote D1 really is a damn fine townie tell. Zeke/Sparks are still offbase and jman seems to be also so they can stay - for now. Chuggs can be pushed for his D1.
I do think sooner or later one of Zeke/Sparks will need to die but I agree we gotta kill ATP unless he decides to go after Kopite hard.
Zippedpinhead
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Ephidel, in order to avoid yesterday from happening again. I am going to park my vote on you.
Im not going to lean into the discussion though. I completely underestimated how much work I had yesterday. But I’m not sure how I can scum hunt today.
Im not going to lean into the discussion though. I completely underestimated how much work I had yesterday. But I’m not sure how I can scum hunt today.
Zippedpinhead
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But next day phase, I am going to be right in here
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
No trying to bus out chuggs is right. I hate to bus you like this Ephidel.
Sawneeks
little green dog
it's the chaos play and i love it. lean into that omgus energy and being wrongfully read as scum
Sawneeks
little green dog
you're not out yet! i believe in us.
Sawneeks
little green dog
Claims:
Jman - Miller
HP - Loved
Sparks/Zeke - Masons? (possible lovers, dunno)
EC - Vanilla
Chuggs - Gossip (invited HP D1/N1)
What we know only;
Chuggs N1 - RBed. So unless he got around it, he's not a vig/SK
Turm N1 - cop check. Kingmaker
Dead;
3 shot tracker
Jailer
2 shot Will booster aka 'power through roleblock'
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possible hints?
also not sure if LP was hinting at being the Vig earlier this day. he said a vig doesnt shoot a miller N1 and was pretty confident that fate died from a vig.
Rover is not the vig lol
Jman - Miller
HP - Loved
Sparks/Zeke - Masons? (possible lovers, dunno)
EC - Vanilla
Chuggs - Gossip (invited HP D1/N1)
What we know only;
Chuggs N1 - RBed. So unless he got around it, he's not a vig/SK
Turm N1 - cop check. Kingmaker
Dead;
3 shot tracker
Jailer
2 shot Will booster aka 'power through roleblock'
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possible hints?
also not sure if LP was hinting at being the Vig earlier this day. he said a vig doesnt shoot a miller N1 and was pretty confident that fate died from a vig.
Rover is not the vig lol
Sawneeks
little green dog
Sawneeks
little green dog
yeah probably not lol.I suspect one shot kill nexus is not going to be a claim that will save me
think of something townie. or hell, go bold and claim a big role.
hell claim a very wrestling specific one. you're looking for a title belt so you can gain powers or something.
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I don't know enough about wrestling to fudge anything like that. I think I'm just done.
Do I waste the claim and say I'd probably have caused an undesirable death in the hopes I get a few moments of people maybe feeling bad about voting me out while people can maybe call it bullshit at the end, or do I leave the name and claim for one of you?
Do I waste the claim and say I'd probably have caused an undesirable death in the hopes I get a few moments of people maybe feeling bad about voting me out while people can maybe call it bullshit at the end, or do I leave the name and claim for one of you?
Sawneeks
little green dog
oops, sorry. wasnt here. think it's too late now sadly so...
you can post memes if you want?
Ephidel
How do you do, fellow mafia?
I'm sorry I was a disappointing teammate and I'm sorry Geno looks worse for trying to save me.
I can see a lot of what I did wrong, and I'll learn from it in future, though that's obviously too late for this game :P
Give 'em hell, I'll be cheering from spec.
I can see a lot of what I did wrong, and I'll learn from it in future, though that's obviously too late for this game :P
Give 'em hell, I'll be cheering from spec.
Sawneeks
little green dog
nah, i honestly think your posts were fine. ATP has just achieved Soul Read status on you and that's really hard to fight against when he can just see through it. If he wasnt here you'd be fine.
we'll win this for you and show em hell <3
Sawneeks
little green dog
trust me, tomorrow im going scorched earth and throwing everyone who isnt geno/zipped/New OJ under the bus. they aint gonna survive.
Sawneeks
little green dog
RIP Ephi, gonna miss you <3
im going to be busy for the rest of the day but i'll check in here later.
I think we strong kill Chuggs or ATP tonight. they are lock town are that push on Ephi. Chuggs' would remove the gossip and his geno push, ATP would remove a ??? role and his possible geno push as well. Thoughts on either? leaning ATP since his role is a mystery and while gossip is annoying, it's not harmful.
If we think LP is the vig, I can RB him. if not, I cant RB donnie.
I say we role cop.....Zbeat or LP.
im going to be busy for the rest of the day but i'll check in here later.
I think we strong kill Chuggs or ATP tonight. they are lock town are that push on Ephi. Chuggs' would remove the gossip and his geno push, ATP would remove a ??? role and his possible geno push as well. Thoughts on either? leaning ATP since his role is a mystery and while gossip is annoying, it's not harmful.
If we think LP is the vig, I can RB him. if not, I cant RB donnie.
I say we role cop.....Zbeat or LP.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
RIP Ephidel, I am so sorry I felt my only play was to do the hard bus.
Yeah we go scorched earth on this.
I want to strong kill ATP. Lock town after that vote and general gameplay.
the gossip chat claim is just watcher tracker bait. Everyone is going to try and check that role out.
RB LP over Donnie but I’ll wait to weight in on the others.
Yeah we go scorched earth on this.
I want to strong kill ATP. Lock town after that vote and general gameplay.
the gossip chat claim is just watcher tracker bait. Everyone is going to try and check that role out.
RB LP over Donnie but I’ll wait to weight in on the others.
Crap my friends absolutely shit day today, I gotta vent, usually on saturdays we have a few tables of people(I'm a waiter btw), but nobody was prepared for today, I was alone and we were full and they kept coming and my hands were shaking lmao it was impossible to handle, everyone was complaining. Then a huge ass storm appears out of fucking nowhere, everyone stands up, some come inside the restaurant, others leave without paying, I'm in there trying to salvage what I can before everything becomes wet becoming 100% water in the process. At least my boss was understanding of the situation lol. And I was praying to come back home and see Rover gone, not only is he not gone and Ephi is, not only is Ephi gone but I look like SHIT tomorrow, I'm basically dead lowkey, not only all of the above but the storm cut the water supply and power supply of my home, I'm on my last 20% battery and doubt it's gonna come back so rip phone.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
The no kill I don’t think works while we may still have a second NK from an unknown.
It’s not as easy to claim your BP might have got popped if someone else died.
I think we need to straight up NK somebody
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I hope your power and water come back as well!! And an easier day at work!
Sawneeks
little green dog
Damn, hope everything works out for you Geno and you can get power back soon. And a way easier day at work because that sounds like hell.
Don't think you're dead yet but eventually it'll come back. Just think of ways to explain why you focused only on rover and not an ephi reread. But I think tomorrow we gotta push other candidates hard in order to get you out okay.
In case I'm not back before day start and some others aren't, I'll submit the actions. Feel free to change them as need be.
Fanto any update on an OJ replacement?
Don't think you're dead yet but eventually it'll come back. Just think of ways to explain why you focused only on rover and not an ephi reread. But I think tomorrow we gotta push other candidates hard in order to get you out okay.
In case I'm not back before day start and some others aren't, I'll submit the actions. Feel free to change them as need be.
Fanto any update on an OJ replacement?
My power came back luckily.
Yes if this happens the plan would fail
Idk if I'll be able to get out of this one, I might need to claim on day start something big.
Fanto
Confirmed Town
I'm doing my best, I've PM'd two people but no word back yet. I'll try my best to make sure you have one before D3 starts though.
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
I’m super nervous. I think day start is going to be weird.
I think I'm gonna get kinged minute 1
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Oooo a motivator…
Zippedpinhead
Zip it!
Maybe one of us gets to be kinged. I can’t imagine kingmaker can self target
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Previously OJ, now Wee?
Biology ftw.
Biology ftw.
weemadarthur
Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Oooh I’ve been very useful to the team. Ready to take a dive now.
My role PM has a faction kill in it :P
My role PM has a faction kill in it :P