Finger lickin' good chat (scum)
- Thread starter FateShirou
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That's just a one time use power, it would be really overpowered if it was multiple. We will need to take him out at some point because that pretty much confirms him as town.
It seems to me like they are claiming one sided lovers. Typical lovers are if one dies the other dies. With this it appears that if jman dies they both die but if Leo dies first jman still lives. That would be useful later.
I'm hoping a cop checks me tonight and can push against my wagon, I'm going to be first against the wall tomorrow I think otherwise.
I'm not sure who to target tonight. LP, Leo, and jman are clearish so town isn't going after them. Vere is still strongly town read but he's in my corner so I don't want to touch him yet. Maybe Monkey and let her enjoy her vacation in peace?
I'm not sure who to target tonight. LP, Leo, and jman are clearish so town isn't going after them. Vere is still strongly town read but he's in my corner so I don't want to touch him yet. Maybe Monkey and let her enjoy her vacation in peace?
So you will get different opinions on this depending on who your teammates are but lovers are such an inconsequential role that it's usually not worth a kill early, you're going to have better luck going doc and cop (and any other potential power role) fishing. Both Leo and jman are good players but neither of them are likely going to be town leaders so we don't have to off them yet for those reasons. I think they are likely better served being kept around in case we lose tempo (i.e. if we get a kill blocked or one of us gets eliminated) or to accelerate the end game if we hopefully get to that point.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I like Monkey or Fanto since they are major discussion drivers. A vacuum would give space for other narratives.
With lovers, it’s only voting, not a NK that does it?
Also, can I RB the same player two nights in a row? Given the revealed roles, I was thinking of throwing a block at Fran or Ty.
Any death whether they are voted out or killed in any way.
Did you see something with Fran role wise that I didn't pick up on?
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
No, I’m just going through process of elimination with so many claims and confirms. Vere might be worth a RB by the same logic.
Any of them should be fine. I would go Ty, Fran, Vere in that order I think.
Are we good with killing Monkey? I think Jom or Dark should carry the kill in case you or I get blocked or some other disrupting ability.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I’m ok with monkey. I agree Jon or Dark should do it. They should also have a say if they want different targets.
I’d also like to hear if they’re ok with me blocking Ty.
I’d also like to hear if they’re ok with me blocking Ty.
Did you want to target jman?
So you wouldn't target Leo you would target jman and get both of them dead. Fanto would be a good kill too but I don't know how suspicious that is, it could go either direction (which is WIFOM or wine in front of me from Princess Bride).
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I think trying to guess protection targets is very WIFOM territory, so it makes sense to pick outside those choices.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Since we’re less than an hour to deadline, I’m submitting.
Block: Ty
Darkside, I am ok with Fanto if Hedin says ok. We can try to spread FUD on the kill.
Block: Ty
Darkside, I am ok with Fanto if Hedin says ok. We can try to spread FUD on the kill.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
LOL. My hope is that people get suspicious when some are left alive too long.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Just in case name format matters
Block: Ty4on
Block: Ty4on
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
Bruh
FateShirou
ain't no law when you're drinking the claw
I’m not a robot why would name formatting matter
I’m a poor blob
Blobtearful
I’m a poor blob
Blobtearful
No you're a poor Fred.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Don’t anxiety shame me.
Him refusing to name the character is pretty sus, I watched the first season I know these characters!
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I'm probably not making it through minus a cop clear and that has not seemed forthcoming. It's not so much as people are heavily suspecting me, most are a null to a lean scum rather than a hard scum, but the lack of other viable suspects is what's pushing it that way. I wish I had more time this week, if I realized that my work week was going to be as crazy as it was and had remembered my convention I probably wouldn't have signed up, but also town has done a good job so far finding each other and not gone off the deep end.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Well, poop.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
You have to be careful when you do it. You don’t want to be too early because it will look like you’re bussing (creating an alibi vote you’ll abandon later on). If you do it too late, people will say the wagon was already confirmed and you’re just jumping on for optics.
The point is that you have to do it when their fate is most uncertain because that’s the greatest time of risk. And typically you want to get permission of your scum mate.
You also have to consider how much time you think it will buy you. We’re not going to get much unless we can start eroding this towncore.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
That being said, a Ty wagon looks viable now but we don’t all want to jump on it or advocate for it.
And to back up what anex said it's probably not for the best if the whole team jumps on it...although saying that it's pretty rare for the whole team to bus so maybe we are OK.
Seeing her little defense of me, or at least an unwillingness to go there with my vote, makes me wonder if she is the cop? I can't imagine a cop not checking me last night unless they were sure I was going down today.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Yeah, that soft claim stuff can be turned around on someone potentially.
However, Reki is out there stanning for Darkside and Jom, so good to keep around in that sense.
I just posted a huge Vere ISO in hopes that it gets me some goodwill. @Hedin I'm going to eventually state you're on my willing to vote list if that's alright. Going to try and go for Ty and make it seem organic though.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Maybe there’s enough hard and soft claims to start making suspicion? How would thread react if I outright called out all the soft claims?
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
OMG we blocked the green check on Hedin hahaha.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Ok so wild idea is that we start me as a wagon, I’m revealed as RB, then Ty4on can green check Hedin after town assumes doc protected him. Means we’d have to hold the NK though. Or could go after the double kill.
@Hedin @anexanhume if we can push this to HP would we be able to kill Ty at night or would he likely be protected?
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Tie means nobody dies. This is usually seen as anti town because it reveals no information.
jom’s ability only works if someone is majority -1 and Jom isn’t already voting for them. If HP gets to majority minus one, we could hammer him.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Hedin isn’t here so I’ll try my best to give direction. 2/3 of us should switch to Hedin. I’m going to do it first, then one of you pick between yourselves. Whoever feels they can’t make a case for HP.
I switched already.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I wouldn’t end it. Jom could end it and claim town hammerer, but that seems risky.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Never mind, Jom would have to move his vote. I would switch your vote to HP in the name of keeping it competitive.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
That’s good too. A lone wagon vote will get a side eye though.
I mean I am going to ride or die on folks trying to flip on Pandy next game so I'm fine with it
Yeah @anexanhume how does the kill work if we target the cop? Does he still get to get his check off?
Hey @darkside someone asked about whether you guys would know if i was the kind to just not have a mentor. I did on 7/21/22 say to you that "I'm just gonna try to figure it out on my own" and that was well before roles were even selected. If you want to give me some cover. It's not gonna be as meaningful if i reply and say it.
Yeah I'm just gonna defer to your judgment too @anexanhume . Darkside and I are the newbies.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
We can't assume Ty4on is honest in who he says he will check, so we have to assume the worst.
The safest play is to try and kill Ty4on. The risk is that there is a doctor despite speculation in the thread, and they block the kill. Then Ty gets a free check and we get no kill unless we get lucky and guess the doctor for the block.
An alternate play is to block Ty again and kill the lover pair. Without a doctor, this nets us two kills, and we can kill Ty the next night anyway. With a doctor, it becomes more complicated as there's a WIFOM situation on who to protect. There's also a possibility that town has their own RBer. If so, there's a fair chance they might block me. More WIFOM territory. We have to consider the balance of roles overall.
If we kill Ty, he won't be alive to reveal his check tomorrow. However, if we block him, it doesn't matter whether he survives the night. Sure, he'll be confirmed town the next day, but the lover pair were pretty much already that anyway.
My preference is option 2 (block Ty, kill Jman/Leo), but I think you should both weigh in.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Ok, no rush so we’ve got time to think about it. DS should probably submit the kill again.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Jman. He explains it in the reply to Jom where Leo’s defense of Jman day 1 is detailed.
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
I am still laughing at our turn of events. Had he cleared Hedin, the thread would have been chaos. Some would accuse him of covering for scum. Others would have believed the claim and laid off Hedin for at least another day. Oh well.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Unfortunate that we blocked him and he just happened to be the cop.
What's the significance of who actually submits? Is there a town skill that can block the actual person that submits?
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Block: Ty
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
Hey, we got the double-kill and block on Ty, so everything went to plan. People are suspicious of Vere and many are willing to give me a pass for at least today. We’re not doomed just yet :)
anexanhume
My logic is based on the famous “goat problem”
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