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heymonkey

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ahhhhh

I haven't reconfirmed this in detail and I won't be able to for a while, but malus' PM is missing red text where others have it. Others have the limitations of their roles "you can only target GaryMarys else action fail LOL" in red. malus does not have this in red. I call Alaskan Marmalute though, since I don't see a clear reason for that fake. malus already implied a clear of sorts on Nat and that's there in the supposedly fabricated flip too. I thought about complicated scenarios where scum know the nature of clear on scum Nat but are not satisfied how strong it is and fake malus as cop for that reason. Introduce a role cop that is likely to exist and scum can get that info, but what is a clear that scum wouldn't be satisfied with? I dunno, didn't think that far, because at this point the idea started feeling too paranoid for me. Also, fabricating a weak cop just to push forward the idea that malus died visiting someone instead of being shot at seems awfully inconclusive and thus weak.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
and nat loves weak modifiers, guys, it's like his favorite thing
 
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and nat loves weak modifiers, guys, it's like his favorite thing
I feel like loki would have to answer if the red text was a mistake on the mod part, anyway inb4 Kyan dies for realizing the truth.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT FLIP

HAHAHAHAHA WOW

FUCKING BUSTED LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Are you proud of me? :blobaww:

I 100% admit the role was flavor heavy what with vampire potter = Harry Potter and Preps = any female character that targeted Harry (because any girl who isn’t Goffic is a prep to Ebony) but I wanted the role to be true to Enoby as a character and figured anyone who did research on her would figure it out

:mordyay:
 
I honestly think despite it being day 5 a lot of folks are still very disorientated. The weird non start on D1 (despite it successfully hitting scum) just feels like it got everyone off on slightly uneven footing that still hasn't quite evened out.

I was thinking about the initial lack of forthcoming from the group to help ATP catch up with the game and settled on the likelihood folks aren't too sure how to summarise it lol a lot of claims and a lot of actions that haven't necessarily resolved as much as you might expect. Could be a bit of what Monkey mentioned where folks have gotten mired a little on their view of the game, could be scum were wise with the kills.

I think you all correct to be wary of chain kills being set up though, not just by scum but by the group generally looking to find a foothold, despite flipping two reds.
Yeah, the one good thing about this wee flip - RIP wee :( - is that it forces them to reassess the situation.
That is REALLY good wagon analysis from LP re: nin/Randomless.
LP and Kyan asking the important questions there. I'm cheering on LP especially because he's circling the right answer. Now why didn't Random jump on that Zipped train? What possible reason.....

Hopefully they loop back around to their ideas tomorrow.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Honestly two things made me give up here.
One, to me forger only works in bastard so i’m already fucked by the game by thinking it couldn’t exist.
two, the mods forgetting to tell me about nin. I went from planning to probably shoot VA overnight to extreme confusion and started outsourcing understanding anything.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Are you proud of me? :blobaww:

I 100% admit the role was flavor heavy what with vampire potter = Harry Potter and Preps = any female character that targeted Harry (because any girl who isn’t Goffic is a prep to Ebony) but I wanted the role to be true to Enoby as a character and figured anyone who did research on her would figure it out

:mordyay:
Oh, i was suppsed to do research? I read one paragraph and then barfed. I DID try.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
So all my galaxy brain theories are true? If so, at least i left them for kyan. Now you’ll tell me kyan is scum and i’ll just curl up and cry.

not because of the game tho, it’s raining here.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
How does role editing of any kind fit in unusual please? Clearly i need to resort my brain to have preconceived accurate notions.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
That’s not explanatory and I used up my fake laughter at work so I can’t pretend to be amused
Oh, the explanation is generally that it's not fully bastard as they can't change the targets alignment, and a few restrictions to make it fair for town.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Honestly two things made me give up here.
One, to me forger only works in bastard so i’m already fucked by the game by thinking it couldn’t exist.
two, the mods forgetting to tell me about nin. I went from planning to probably shoot VA overnight to extreme confusion and started outsourcing understanding anything.
Sorry about that :< We totally spaced on the fact you would have seen nin and forgot all about him. It really was a major fuck up on our end and none of many I have made while having covid brain :thisisfine:

I sent the scum pms to scum without their team members listed or links to their chat for example.
Oh, i was suppsed to do research? I read one paragraph and then barfed. I DID try.
The research was only for peeps who didn't know the source material, however My Immortal is one of the most infamous troll fics on the internet, so the hope was someone familiar would get the role lol. and if not they could consult the wiki :blobshrug:

It's like how your kill command for the Killing curse was Abra Kedabra as a reference to the typo in the fan fic when Enoby used that instead of the actual killing curse name.
How does role editing of any kind fit in unusual please? Clearly i need to resort my brain to have preconceived accurate notions.
Honestly we fucked up by not updating the complexity before game start :thisisfine: the game was approved before the new complexity system. If I had had that I would have labled the game unusual rolemadness with lite bastard.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Ah.
i would[ve still signed up, i’d just have had better expectations.

feel better loki. What you call covid brain is how i played this whole game, but not from covid.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
Did VA ever say if he got a result last night phase? I would expect an outed cop to get their shots out as fast as possible before they are killed by Scum.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
:eyes:

Geno thinks Zook. Any other guesses on who the kill will be tonight and why? Scum have been on point with the kills so far
 

heymonkey

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I say LP or Kyan unless they buckle and take out Zook. But I think if they go Zook there are questions so they’ll keep killing outside.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
Also fun fact, you can tell whether Vere or I wrote the PMs because I spelled out the full convention name and Vere shortened it :kanna:

However I will say that Ebony's PM is my favorite besides one other. Can you guess which one it is before the end of the game? :D
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
So, is kyan town? Cause i gave him my best arguments. And can he still read his own previous nights?
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I fucking hate tailors, but please indulge me on my crackpot shit. VA realized people thought he was a cop but he’s actually a role cop. Random’s a vote thief but not a forger which is why that JOAT role is inconsistent with how it’s worded in Donnie’s PM. VA came in, faked a red check on a target he forged (I would guess he has a similar role but day instead of night) and now we’re all the way off. Wee wasn’t looking at Sorian or Zipped at all, she was looking at Bojack.

Also if this is the world we’re in we’re super fucked because there’s zero way I’m selling anyone on this but it’s not impossible.

I'm open to anything at this stage. Yesterday wasn't great from me, I would have felt okay with how the day went had wee been scum but her being town hurt.

I get I'm in the poe and not gonna fight that but it does seem to me we gonna need to think outside the box. If you get rid of me and someone like nin who could easily be confused and lost town nin I'm not sure where you go after that

Some of the logic is off but digging this energy between these two posts. Town really need to reset and reassess - thinking outside the box and avoiding the obvious chain kills is going to be required to win this on. Let's go?
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
This is

a fine starting point. :sicko: now go further
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Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
No worries, and thinking of you. Also, in my opinion, it's ok not to be around for long periods of this asynchronous forum game without even needing to apologize. This game I've fully embraced playing mafia even when it's like priority #10 and it's been very freeing. Hope that was ok to say.

This should be obvious but wanted to highlight this and say yes, this is a very healthy attitude and is something I think we need to continue to emphasis. *Sometimes* you can read into when someone very specifically vanishes or shows up but generally we need to be striving to judge the content that is there and not absence of (unless it's just a fulll ghost). It let's folks go take time when they need it, defuses tensions and it's more inviting to get more sign ups and new players if the game doesn't seem such an intense commitment. I'm sure we all agree but just wants to say hell yeah.
 

lokiduck

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==== DAY 6 VOTES ====
Day Start

TheChuggernaut (1 votes)
Sorian - #2,219

Not voting: TheChuggernaut, Natiko, Zookfoodle, Jman1954goat, Kyanrute, Nin, Hawthorn, Vincent Alexander, Kopite, AllThingsPurple, Melonrabbit, Fran

Post Counts:
Sorian: 13 TheChuggernaut: 8 Hawthorn: 8 Fran: 6 Jman1954goat: 4 AllThingsPurple: 3 Natiko: 2 Zookfoodle: 1 Melonrabbit: 1 Lone_Prodigy: 1

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lokiduck

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Chuggs saying the game should have been labled bastard :thisisfine:

Tip for game runners who game got approved before new system, make sure your complexity still fits.

This game is lite bastard unusual role madness. :thisisfine:
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
Wiz was entertaining VA as scum. Now he's dead. Why is VA still alive if he's a Mary? I can understand Nat and Zook who's basically vanilla, but why did they leave a cop who still has shots hanging around?
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My role doesn't end with death
Don't tell me it's "Once per day you may post the vote count in the main thread", that would be OP.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Interesting shift :donnieeyes: town have done a good job at shaking up the PoE today and refreshing up perspectives, I honestly expected a more direct chain kill onto Nin or maybe ATP.
 

heymonkey

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Post count don’t lie. (Though it gets harder to see with the dead people vote meme, will say)
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Yeah like Hawthorn said, it's tough to vote out a claimed cop who gave you a red check on someone not suspected at all. If I was still around I'd probably be pushing melon and nin, even if the behaviour and votes look town.

I just hate forging/tailors. Flips are the great equalizer and when they're open to manipulation it's hard to trust anything. I remember DR2 when Zeke was scum who stole the vigilante role and tailored the actual vigilante and no matter how much I scum read him I couldn't reconcile that with his claimed role.
 

heymonkey

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Yeah like Hawthorn said, it's tough to vote out a claimed cop who gave you a red check on someone not suspected at all. If I was still around I'd probably be pushing melon and nin, even if the behaviour and votes look town.

I just hate forging/tailors. Flips are the great equalizer and when they're open to manipulation it's hard to trust anything. I remember DR2 when Zeke was scum who stole the vigilante role and tailored the actual vigilante and no matter how much I scum read him I couldn't reconcile that with his claimed role.
I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.

(i like role madness in a general sense because it can be fun and swingy, but gets close to bastard and i'm often out. i like unusual stuff, though - nightless seems totally okay to me, for instance.)
 
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weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Also fun fact, you can tell whether Vere or I wrote the PMs because I spelled out the full convention name and Vere shortened it :kanna:

However I will say that Ebony's PM is my favorite besides one other. Can you guess which one it is before the end of the game? :D
At least you got goff roleplay off it. Since I don’t pick up on flavor arguments, deliberately

;P

this hates emoji why?
 
Oh so we get the two gossips now... interesting.

So did Fran steal it from Kyan? I noticed Fran's N2 chat just happens to be dead, so they can hide the fact they didn't start until N3.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.

(i like role madness in a general sense because it can be fun and swingy, but gets close to bastard and i'm often out. i like unusual stuff, though - nightless seems totally okay to me, for instance.)
Perhaps "hate" is a strong word. I think this game is great and a challenge to figure out, and I don't want to come across as a mafia purist who only likes Fox only, no items, Final Destination, but my poor brain likes things simpler. When cults and tailors are involved I curl up in a ball.
 

weemadarthur

Mad as in angry, or mad as in crazy?
Yeah, I’ll play bastard games on occasion, but screwing with role cards is the WORST because you can’t really logic it out if nobody makes errors.

So I play those as a YOLO, let’s see what happens, but I don’t make an *effort* particularly, and it’s the different approach I need to be warned of because I can’t handle sudden changes.
 

lokiduck

Awww yiss mothafuckin' breadcrumbs
I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.

(i like role madness in a general sense because it can be fun and swingy, but gets close to bastard and i'm often out. i like unusual stuff, though - nightless seems totally okay to me, for instance.)
Yeah I agree. This is in part why I have been moving away from making bastard games, and honestly I probably never including a tailor/forger role again in my games.

nonsense like what I did with wee's role and Genos... I probably will do again tho lol.
At least you got goff roleplay off it. Since I don’t pick up on flavor arguments, deliberately

;P

this hates emoji why?
You were so great :D Even if bugged Ephi like crazy because of all the typos :laughing:
One day I'll be invited to a gossip chat.
Hey you are forever a woodchuck :D :D :D
 
Chuggs and Kyan have been amazing today, and Chuggs is right, they're sticking their necks out trying to solve and it's townie as hell.

I wish people would be willing to actually engage with them more rather than shrugging them off. I do feel that's this community's weak spot a bit - we can be a bit flippant and unwilling to listen to reason.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
I honestly expected them to just turbo nin today.

The arguments for VA are sound, but it's hard to vote for a claimed cop when he gave a red. It's like that game where scum Zeke shot his teammate; it's so out there you can't possibly believe it even if the rest of the evidence lines up.

Also why do all my examples involve Zeke as scum.
 

Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
I honestly expected them to just turbo nin today.

The arguments for VA are sound, but it's hard to vote for a claimed cop when he gave a red. It's like that game where scum Zeke shot his teammate; it's so out there you can't possibly believe it even if the rest of the evidence lines up.

Also why do all my examples involve Zeke as scum.

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Donnie

Mafia, pocketed, or dead N1
Not Just teamwork But Keeping Morale high Late game is super important too.



Let's try to be nice to each other even as we Push potential scum. There's no reason to make other players feel bad it's just a game for fun at the end of the day.



We can be polite and Push scum at the same time.

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That Kop vote is such a trap, glad Chuggs called it out.

If I was still in the game and didn't have spec omniscience, I think I'd be going for nin here. It clears up some of the earlier mess and gives you something to go with tomorrow. Going Kop or even Haw is just going to get you stuck in the same loop again.
 
Jman's ability to create drama out of nowhere is insane.
Edit: Sorry jman for the poor choice of words here, didn't mean to offend you.
 
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heymonkey

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That Kop vote is such a trap, glad Chuggs called it out.

If I was still in the game and didn't have spec omniscience, I think I'd be going for nin here. It clears up some of the earlier mess and gives you something to go with tomorrow. Going Kop or even Haw is just going to get you stuck in the same loop again.
I’m still catching up and maybe I’m wrong but I was coming to say NOOOO NOT KOPITE, who is really doing some interesting work and seeing it glossed over

(watch him be scum lol)
 

heymonkey

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I like jman a lot, I just think he needs to take the game more lightly, he's way too invested emotionally.
A lot of us have that issue. I do not think it’s appropriate to say it’s out of nothing, tho. That’s judgy, first of all, and deadass, you don’t know. You don’t know what’s in his head or what he deals with. So don’t be a shitass about it, you know?

That’s all I have to say.
 
A lot of us have that issue. I do not think it’s appropriate to say it’s out of nothing, tho. That’s judgy, first of all, and deadass, you don’t know. You don’t know what’s in his head or what he deals with. So don’t be a shitass about it, you know?

That’s all I have to say.
Fair enough, poor choice of words I guess, didn't mean to offend jman there.
 

Lone_Prodigy

Am I at 10 posts yet?
Really not liking Nat here. I get he's busy and I have extra spec knowledge of the game but he's looking the wrong way with little justification.

Kopite vote was really bad and glad it didn't go anywhere. He seems to be the only one remotely interested in previous votes and wagons, BUT that's easy cover for scum if you know it leads to a townie. I still think he's town though.

Fran is also dropping a bit for me. He's posting but seems to be more reactive, though that could be due to his new Fran 2.0. Being another gossip should be looked at.

melon is always a tough read but she looks town here. I liked ATP today, also town here.

Fran, Nat, VA? I know Nat had a supposed green check from malus but redirect is always possible.

I think they kill Chuggs tonight. While his VA push didn't go anywhere, having nin flip town will give him extra motivation and he's convincing enough to get the support. If he's a doctor being sat on by the RB that will free them up to go elsewhere. I don't see Kyan dying when there are two claimed gossips. Hawthorn is also a good NK option since her claim is fairly solid.
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
I don't want to say too much at this point, but I'm not fancying town's chances much. Some of them are looking in right directions, but they're also shutting themselves out of finding others. The right flip and some cool heads might help them a bit, but - and again, I don't want to give too much away - I think they're going to be very vulnerable to bussing as they are.
 

heymonkey

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If it's between Kyan and Fran... I really don't know. Kyan feels more town than Fran here. Fran has been almost a non-entity and that's not like previous Fran 2.0. But I've seen Kyan be equally this townie and flat out flip scum. So man, I just dunno there. I wouldn't want to be in THAT f3, I'll say that.
 

Verelios

Were-elios
I just realized I don't think the people in spec know what my role originally did.
Genin's role did 5 things. It was rng which one was used and their target(s).
1. Healed someone
2. Gave someone the strong modifier
3. Switched two players
4. Gave someone a vote
5. And vote muted someone ;)
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
Where was this town before I died? *Grumble grumble*
In our cool gossip chats
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RIP nin, got out the laptop for nothing.

Scum #4 is certainly a tough one. I was narrowing on Kyan but he had a very towny day and started pulling on the VA thread. Fran could be a neutral (capture X players in pokeballs to exit?) but I don't think he is scum.
5. And vote muted someone ;)
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