The Wizard
Confidently Incorrect
Turbos are like pringles, once you pop you cannot stop.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI haven't reconfirmed this in detail and I won't be able to for a while, but malus' PM is missing red text where others have it. Others have the limitations of their roles "you can only target GaryMarys else action fail LOL" in red. malus does not have this in red. I call Alaskan Marmalute though, since I don't see a clear reason for that fake. malus already implied a clear of sorts on Nat and that's there in the supposedly fabricated flip too. I thought about complicated scenarios where scum know the nature of clear on scum Nat but are not satisfied how strong it is and fake malus as cop for that reason. Introduce a role cop that is likely to exist and scum can get that info, but what is a clear that scum wouldn't be satisfied with? I dunno, didn't think that far, because at this point the idea started feeling too paranoid for me. Also, fabricating a weak cop just to push forward the idea that malus died visiting someone instead of being shot at seems awfully inconclusive and thus weak.
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and nat loves weak modifiers, guys, it's like his favorite thing
Are you proud of me? :blobaww:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT FLIP
HAHAHAHAHA WOW
FUCKING BUSTED LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Yeah, the one good thing about this wee flip - RIP wee :( - is that it forces them to reassess the situation.I honestly think despite it being day 5 a lot of folks are still very disorientated. The weird non start on D1 (despite it successfully hitting scum) just feels like it got everyone off on slightly uneven footing that still hasn't quite evened out.
I was thinking about the initial lack of forthcoming from the group to help ATP catch up with the game and settled on the likelihood folks aren't too sure how to summarise it lol a lot of claims and a lot of actions that haven't necessarily resolved as much as you might expect. Could be a bit of what Monkey mentioned where folks have gotten mired a little on their view of the game, could be scum were wise with the kills.
I think you all correct to be wary of chain kills being set up though, not just by scum but by the group generally looking to find a foothold, despite flipping two reds.
LP and Kyan asking the important questions there. I'm cheering on LP especially because he's circling the right answer. Now why didn't Random jump on that Zipped train? What possible reason.....That is REALLY good wagon analysis from LP re: nin/Randomless.
Oh, i was suppsed to do research? I read one paragraph and then barfed. I DID try.Are you proud of me? :blobaww:
I 100% admit the role was flavor heavy what with vampire potter = Harry Potter and Preps = any female character that targeted Harry (because any girl who isn’t Goffic is a prep to Ebony) but I wanted the role to be true to Enoby as a character and figured anyone who did research on her would figure it out
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Unusual is it not? ;)How does role editing of any kind fit in unusual please? Clearly i need to resort my brain to have preconceived accurate notions.
That’s not explanatory and I used up my fake laughter at work so I can’t pretend to be amusedUnusual is it not? ;)
Oh, the explanation is generally that it's not fully bastard as they can't change the targets alignment, and a few restrictions to make it fair for town.That’s not explanatory and I used up my fake laughter at work so I can’t pretend to be amused
Sorry about that :< We totally spaced on the fact you would have seen nin and forgot all about him. It really was a major fuck up on our end and none of many I have made while having covid brainHonestly two things made me give up here.
One, to me forger only works in bastard so i’m already fucked by the game by thinking it couldn’t exist.
two, the mods forgetting to tell me about nin. I went from planning to probably shoot VA overnight to extreme confusion and started outsourcing understanding anything.
The research was only for peeps who didn't know the source material, however My Immortal is one of the most infamous troll fics on the internet, so the hope was someone familiar would get the role lol. and if not they could consult the wiki :blobshrug:Oh, i was suppsed to do research? I read one paragraph and then barfed. I DID try.
Honestly we fucked up by not updating the complexity before game startHow does role editing of any kind fit in unusual please? Clearly i need to resort my brain to have preconceived accurate notions.
the game was approved before the new complexity system. If I had had that I would have labled the game unusual rolemadness with lite bastard.Everyone should always pay attention to LP.
Also, where are my flavor heads? WW is not a Mary Sue and I will fight a mf.
LP is doing the most solving right now so he's a good candidate for the axe.

You got scum scared LP. Had to go
... Go Hawthorn?Rooting for a mix of LP, wee and Hawthorn to crack this one I think
I fucking hate tailors, but please indulge me on my crackpot shit. VA realized people thought he was a cop but he’s actually a role cop. Random’s a vote thief but not a forger which is why that JOAT role is inconsistent with how it’s worded in Donnie’s PM. VA came in, faked a red check on a target he forged (I would guess he has a similar role but day instead of night) and now we’re all the way off. Wee wasn’t looking at Sorian or Zipped at all, she was looking at Bojack.
Also if this is the world we’re in we’re super fucked because there’s zero way I’m selling anyone on this but it’s not impossible.
I'm open to anything at this stage. Yesterday wasn't great from me, I would have felt okay with how the day went had wee been scum but her being town hurt.
I get I'm in the poe and not gonna fight that but it does seem to me we gonna need to think outside the box. If you get rid of me and someone like nin who could easily be confused and lost town nin I'm not sure where you go after that
Funny thing about that...
Kyan stole Frans ability and assembled a fake town core and now we're doomed?
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a fine starting point. :sicko: now go further

This is
a fine starting point. :sicko: now go further
Ooh, ooh, my turn!Now who wants to post the vote tool? :D :D :D
No worries, and thinking of you. Also, in my opinion, it's ok not to be around for long periods of this asynchronous forum game without even needing to apologize. This game I've fully embraced playing mafia even when it's like priority #10 and it's been very freeing. Hope that was ok to say.
Wiz was entertaining VA as scum. Now he's dead. Why is VA still alive if he's a Mary? I can understand Nat and Zook who's basically vanilla, but why did they leave a cop who still has shots hanging around?
Don't tell me it's "Once per day you may post the vote count in the main thread", that would be OP.My role doesn't end with death
Speaking of :D We could use another vote tool in the thread. Wanna do the honors?![]()
Don't tell me it's "Once per day you may post the vote count in the main thread", that would be OP.
Should be 3 if we're going by the opening flavor.How many scum are left I wonder, 3 or 4?
I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.Yeah like Hawthorn said, it's tough to vote out a claimed cop who gave you a red check on someone not suspected at all. If I was still around I'd probably be pushing melon and nin, even if the behaviour and votes look town.
I just hate forging/tailors. Flips are the great equalizer and when they're open to manipulation it's hard to trust anything. I remember DR2 when Zeke was scum who stole the vigilante role and tailored the actual vigilante and no matter how much I scum read him I couldn't reconcile that with his claimed role.
At least you got goff roleplay off it. Since I don’t pick up on flavor arguments, deliberatelyAlso fun fact, you can tell whether Vere or I wrote the PMs because I spelled out the full convention name and Vere shortened it :kanna:
However I will say that Ebony's PM is my favorite besides one other. Can you guess which one it is before the end of the game? :D
Perhaps "hate" is a strong word. I think this game is great and a challenge to figure out, and I don't want to come across as a mafia purist who only likes Fox only, no items, Final Destination, but my poor brain likes things simpler. When cults and tailors are involved I curl up in a ball.I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.
(i like role madness in a general sense because it can be fun and swingy, but gets close to bastard and i'm often out. i like unusual stuff, though - nightless seems totally okay to me, for instance.)
Yeah I agree. This is in part why I have been moving away from making bastard games, and honestly I probably never including a tailor/forger role again in my games.I agree here - it's one of the reasons I don't love most bastard games. Cults and tailors make it so hard to actually figure out the game because you have to rely on speculation in ways I'm not particularly into.
(i like role madness in a general sense because it can be fun and swingy, but gets close to bastard and i'm often out. i like unusual stuff, though - nightless seems totally okay to me, for instance.)
You were so great :D Even if bugged Ephi like crazy because of all the typosAt least you got goff roleplay off it. Since I don’t pick up on flavor arguments, deliberately
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this hates emoji why?
Hey you are forever a woodchuck :D :D :DOne day I'll be invited to a gossip chat.
I pretty good sum up of everything is:![]()
There are so many unfortunate layers to today that it hurts.
I honestly expected them to just turbo nin today.
The arguments for VA are sound, but it's hard to vote for a claimed cop when he gave a red. It's like that game where scum Zeke shot his teammate; it's so out there you can't possibly believe it even if the rest of the evidence lines up.
Also why do all my examples involve Zeke as scum.
Can you take me out of the PoE Jman? I am town
Not Just teamwork But Keeping Morale high Late game is super important too.
Let's try to be nice to each other even as we Push potential scum. There's no reason to make other players feel bad it's just a game for fun at the end of the day.
We can be polite and Push scum at the same time.
I’m still catching up and maybe I’m wrong but I was coming to say NOOOO NOT KOPITE, who is really doing some interesting work and seeing it glossed overThat Kop vote is such a trap, glad Chuggs called it out.
If I was still in the game and didn't have spec omniscience, I think I'd be going for nin here. It clears up some of the earlier mess and gives you something to go with tomorrow. Going Kop or even Haw is just going to get you stuck in the same loop again.
I don’t think this is a cool thing to put in spec, personally.Jman's ability to create drama out of nowhere is insane.
I like jman a lot, I just think he needs to take the game more lightly, he's way too invested emotionally.I don’t think this is a cool thing to put in spec, personally.
A lot of us have that issue. I do not think it’s appropriate to say it’s out of nothing, tho. That’s judgy, first of all, and deadass, you don’t know. You don’t know what’s in his head or what he deals with. So don’t be a shitass about it, you know?I like jman a lot, I just think he needs to take the game more lightly, he's way too invested emotionally.
Fair enough, poor choice of words I guess, didn't mean to offend jman there.A lot of us have that issue. I do not think it’s appropriate to say it’s out of nothing, tho. That’s judgy, first of all, and deadass, you don’t know. You don’t know what’s in his head or what he deals with. So don’t be a shitass about it, you know?
That’s all I have to say.
This is my guess as well. I've pretty much crossed everyone else off my suspects list. Melon is maaaybe an alternate.Fran, Nat, VA? I know Nat had a supposed green check from malus but redirect is always possible.
Genin's role did 5 things. It was rng which one was used and their target(s).I just realized I don't think the people in spec know what my role originally did.
In our cool gossip chatsWhere was this town before I died? *Grumble grumble*
5. And vote muted someone ;)