Game Thread Love Boat: The Spin-off |OT| We Bare Boats
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Inflatable Boat
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I wouldn't mind hearing anyone's thoughts on it. It's something that is bugging me for sure.
Lifeboat
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I will say I felt more frustrated with Beluga yesterday.
Can you clarify what you mean by had a "strong day" yesterday. There was a counter claim. Everyone thought Cruise ship was real. They didn't do anything that contributed to a mafia dying. Pre-counter claim they only had the accusation at me for a mis-read.
I think what i said about them being quick on Cruise Ship and Houseboat votes aligning shows they were already medic hunting because the mafia were trying to work it out after the Houseboat fake claim.
Beluga Whale
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Quick post. So, I remembered someone saying Cruise voted the same way as HB yesterday and why they'd do that, and it turns out to be Lifeboat. I actually didn't put that together at the time; I asked cruise because Galleon was on HB hard D1 and thought that would make them hesitant to vote there. That Lifeboat knew immediately shows that they were studying the vote trains.
The reasoning Lifeboat gives here is not only quick, it's specific. This is completely projection. I had wanted to give some consideration to them possibly being wrong town but I think it's as simple as this. Lifeboat knew HB was scum, wanted to discredit Cruise (he says almost definitively that I knew HB was scum, which is odd unless you immediately know Cruise is telling the truth) or at least make them claim parts of their role.
Vote: Lifeboat
Gondola
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Alright updating my reads for this day phase
Inflatable - Inflatable is my top town read right now, I think this slot looks really good off the flip and looking at their votes. They had a good push on houseboat D1, voted for them and went after their logic gaps, and only came off when houseboat wasn’t on the table anymore. It would be tough to see these two as partnered because of how consistant they keep on it and try to get houseboat to respond and respond to others. Houseboat gave them pretty straightforward town read and puts them on their would not vote list but largely just steps around the questions. Another point in Inflatable's faovur on D2 houseboat tries to shade them for neutral hunting which reads pretty clearly as shade and wanting to destabilise the slot a bit. Town pile, Wouldn’t vote here today.
Kayak - I think the houseboat flip gives this slot a solid glow up. Going back over houseboat’s big D1 reads post before they fake claim, basically all of their town reads and NAI reads are very short with some folks just being skipped. The only two that get some real effort are the scum reads for Galleon (who flipped as town) and Kayak. Galleon flipped as town and it looks like those were the town slots they wanted to push to get attention away from themselves. On D1 Kayak goes Houseboat and then after some pressure moved over to Yatch who they had initially said they liked more and were there until day end. Didn’t place a vote on D2 before the counterclaim came up. Town pile, wouldn’t vote here today.
Duck - Duck was the one who originally mentioned that sub and galleon were moving the game forward which lead to houseboat’s comments that got them the initial heat, and they also call out houseboat for throwing shade at people town reading and put a vote on them which looks quite good with houseboat’s flip. They stay firm on the vote until the claim happens then they migrate over to Yacht. On D2 not much happens and then the counter comes and they’re happy enough to vote houseboat. On Houseboat’s end in their big reads list D1 they skip Duck entirely even on the loop around. If Duck had been after houseboat later I would maybe tinfoil a possible bus but they just on houseboat early and give them heat and don’t move when there’s plenty of chances to do otherwise D1, good chance houseboat was trying to dip around them. Throw them on the town pile, I wouldn’t vote here today.
Sub - The shine does come off this slot today with the way the flips have worked out. They voted Galleon early and didn’t move all day phase which flipped town, and there was pretty consistent on push back on voting houseboat. D2 ended early before Sub really got going so it’s harder to read there but there was an early push on Cruise Ship who flipped town. It’s worth keeping a bit more of an open mind on this slot now. I don’t want to ignore how well they’ve come across though with how visible they’ve been, how they’ve engaged with other slots, there has been a lot of activity for this slot, it would take *alot* of front for scum. There’s better spots to look today but not as firm here now. In terms of houseboat there’s the early push back on Subbeing town read but the vote on Sub oppose to people town reading them never really made sense, after they get called out for this they town read them for the rest of their run. Still a town read but not as rock solid as D1.
Beluga - Beluga has a slight scum lean on houseboat D1 where they find questioning sub’s town reads an NAI/disposition thing but don’t like they’re overly careful not to gain heat, no vote preclaim. Postclaim they go towards Kayak and Inflatable on the basis that if houseboat is town they look worse and then they go for Galleon on similar logic. They don’t have a vote down before the counterclaim on D2. Going through houseboat’s iso they don’t mention Beluga much at, there’s a very short town read in their big reads list and they mention them as someone they wouldn’t vote for the day. Looking at Beluga through houseboat’s flip doesn’t really say much to me right now, there isn’t much interaction between the two and the reads are super strong back and forth between the two. In terms of Beluga’s play I like them, I think they’re coming off off well in how they engage and push things so I’d still keep them on the town pile today.
Yacht - Looking at them with houseboat flipping scum does give it a decent glow up, their initial reaction to houseboat’s town read push back stuff is to push back on Duck calling it out saying they didn’t see any problem with it but they follow up when houseboat tries to justify their opening vote, pointing out they’re giving reasoning that came after for a vote they made first which turns up some serious heat on the slot. They’re consistent on the read for the rest of the day until the claim where they end up moving to skiff in response to a vote skiff put on them and that’s basically it for the day they don’t move over at EoD. From houseboat’s end they skip Yacht initially on their big iso list then come back in a follow up but don’t say much, mentioning their points are recycled and that they’re neutral on them which would let them go either way. I still think them sitting off wagon at EoD is off particularly when they were one of the wagon’s and they were there in the thread but in terms of houseboat’s flip they look better, it looked rougher when you take houseboat as the doc. Feel better on the slot, i'd put them in the middle or a little lower right now.
Skiff - I can accomodate D2 ending early so they didn’t get a chance to play and having a replacement is tough because they need time to catch up but it does mean that basically nothing on my read from last day phase has changed today. There’s been very little out of the slot that’s meaningful which becauses more dangerous the deeper we go, and their reads have been scattered where they’ve said themselves their list and vote for D1 don’t match up. There’s also the oddity of Yacht sitting on Skiff til day end on D1. I’m glad the memer of the two didn’t drop though. Going through Houseboat on Skiff they call them out as liking a post, drop them entirely when they do their reads list but when they come back to post who they wouldn’t vote Skiff is on there. Kind of off they notch the slot off for the day as a viable vote but skip them on the post they’d have to explain why. This slot just isn't doing much to be able to read town on.
Lifeboat - Early on D1, lifeboat errs towards not finding the houseboat weirdness scummy and that’s a general thing they come back to throughout the day. Their vote on Kayak is interesting now with hindsight that houseboat is scum because it’s largely a vote based on Kayak voting for houseboat and picking at it til Kayak moves off of houseboat and they consistantly fall against any idea of houseboat being sus. After the claim they step in early to reinforce that houseboat should be left alone with the doc claim. This basically ends up NAI since it makes sense with either alignment but with the flip it looks worse. They end up hammering Galleon at day end. A lot of their day phase on D2 is taken up with the doc 2 shot mention and then pushing cruise ship hard on the potential conditions of their doc claim. I’ve rolled a lot of this around in my head but too much of it becomes wifom. We have no real way of knowing if the 2 shot thing was a slip and the cruise ship stuff goes from fishing, to, this is way too hard to be fishing to, maybe they felt caught and are just going for that. It just ends up really noisey. My partner would like to see this slot solved today, I'm fine with the vote here right now and think it would be an informative flip.
Inflatable - Inflatable is my top town read right now, I think this slot looks really good off the flip and looking at their votes. They had a good push on houseboat D1, voted for them and went after their logic gaps, and only came off when houseboat wasn’t on the table anymore. It would be tough to see these two as partnered because of how consistant they keep on it and try to get houseboat to respond and respond to others. Houseboat gave them pretty straightforward town read and puts them on their would not vote list but largely just steps around the questions. Another point in Inflatable's faovur on D2 houseboat tries to shade them for neutral hunting which reads pretty clearly as shade and wanting to destabilise the slot a bit. Town pile, Wouldn’t vote here today.
Kayak - I think the houseboat flip gives this slot a solid glow up. Going back over houseboat’s big D1 reads post before they fake claim, basically all of their town reads and NAI reads are very short with some folks just being skipped. The only two that get some real effort are the scum reads for Galleon (who flipped as town) and Kayak. Galleon flipped as town and it looks like those were the town slots they wanted to push to get attention away from themselves. On D1 Kayak goes Houseboat and then after some pressure moved over to Yatch who they had initially said they liked more and were there until day end. Didn’t place a vote on D2 before the counterclaim came up. Town pile, wouldn’t vote here today.
Duck - Duck was the one who originally mentioned that sub and galleon were moving the game forward which lead to houseboat’s comments that got them the initial heat, and they also call out houseboat for throwing shade at people town reading and put a vote on them which looks quite good with houseboat’s flip. They stay firm on the vote until the claim happens then they migrate over to Yacht. On D2 not much happens and then the counter comes and they’re happy enough to vote houseboat. On Houseboat’s end in their big reads list D1 they skip Duck entirely even on the loop around. If Duck had been after houseboat later I would maybe tinfoil a possible bus but they just on houseboat early and give them heat and don’t move when there’s plenty of chances to do otherwise D1, good chance houseboat was trying to dip around them. Throw them on the town pile, I wouldn’t vote here today.
Sub - The shine does come off this slot today with the way the flips have worked out. They voted Galleon early and didn’t move all day phase which flipped town, and there was pretty consistent on push back on voting houseboat. D2 ended early before Sub really got going so it’s harder to read there but there was an early push on Cruise Ship who flipped town. It’s worth keeping a bit more of an open mind on this slot now. I don’t want to ignore how well they’ve come across though with how visible they’ve been, how they’ve engaged with other slots, there has been a lot of activity for this slot, it would take *alot* of front for scum. There’s better spots to look today but not as firm here now. In terms of houseboat there’s the early push back on Subbeing town read but the vote on Sub oppose to people town reading them never really made sense, after they get called out for this they town read them for the rest of their run. Still a town read but not as rock solid as D1.
Beluga - Beluga has a slight scum lean on houseboat D1 where they find questioning sub’s town reads an NAI/disposition thing but don’t like they’re overly careful not to gain heat, no vote preclaim. Postclaim they go towards Kayak and Inflatable on the basis that if houseboat is town they look worse and then they go for Galleon on similar logic. They don’t have a vote down before the counterclaim on D2. Going through houseboat’s iso they don’t mention Beluga much at, there’s a very short town read in their big reads list and they mention them as someone they wouldn’t vote for the day. Looking at Beluga through houseboat’s flip doesn’t really say much to me right now, there isn’t much interaction between the two and the reads are super strong back and forth between the two. In terms of Beluga’s play I like them, I think they’re coming off off well in how they engage and push things so I’d still keep them on the town pile today.
Yacht - Looking at them with houseboat flipping scum does give it a decent glow up, their initial reaction to houseboat’s town read push back stuff is to push back on Duck calling it out saying they didn’t see any problem with it but they follow up when houseboat tries to justify their opening vote, pointing out they’re giving reasoning that came after for a vote they made first which turns up some serious heat on the slot. They’re consistent on the read for the rest of the day until the claim where they end up moving to skiff in response to a vote skiff put on them and that’s basically it for the day they don’t move over at EoD. From houseboat’s end they skip Yacht initially on their big iso list then come back in a follow up but don’t say much, mentioning their points are recycled and that they’re neutral on them which would let them go either way. I still think them sitting off wagon at EoD is off particularly when they were one of the wagon’s and they were there in the thread but in terms of houseboat’s flip they look better, it looked rougher when you take houseboat as the doc. Feel better on the slot, i'd put them in the middle or a little lower right now.
Skiff - I can accomodate D2 ending early so they didn’t get a chance to play and having a replacement is tough because they need time to catch up but it does mean that basically nothing on my read from last day phase has changed today. There’s been very little out of the slot that’s meaningful which becauses more dangerous the deeper we go, and their reads have been scattered where they’ve said themselves their list and vote for D1 don’t match up. There’s also the oddity of Yacht sitting on Skiff til day end on D1. I’m glad the memer of the two didn’t drop though. Going through Houseboat on Skiff they call them out as liking a post, drop them entirely when they do their reads list but when they come back to post who they wouldn’t vote Skiff is on there. Kind of off they notch the slot off for the day as a viable vote but skip them on the post they’d have to explain why. This slot just isn't doing much to be able to read town on.
Lifeboat - Early on D1, lifeboat errs towards not finding the houseboat weirdness scummy and that’s a general thing they come back to throughout the day. Their vote on Kayak is interesting now with hindsight that houseboat is scum because it’s largely a vote based on Kayak voting for houseboat and picking at it til Kayak moves off of houseboat and they consistantly fall against any idea of houseboat being sus. After the claim they step in early to reinforce that houseboat should be left alone with the doc claim. This basically ends up NAI since it makes sense with either alignment but with the flip it looks worse. They end up hammering Galleon at day end. A lot of their day phase on D2 is taken up with the doc 2 shot mention and then pushing cruise ship hard on the potential conditions of their doc claim. I’ve rolled a lot of this around in my head but too much of it becomes wifom. We have no real way of knowing if the 2 shot thing was a slip and the cruise ship stuff goes from fishing, to, this is way too hard to be fishing to, maybe they felt caught and are just going for that. It just ends up really noisey. My partner would like to see this slot solved today, I'm fine with the vote here right now and think it would be an informative flip.
Gondola
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Ask again sorry, I read the original question and my brain melted on the wording for some reason
Gondola
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You could make a little motion in the ocean, what are you thinking so far (no sig so I'm guessing this is the new player?)
Gondola
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Can you point back to this please?
Skiff
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im just going to back read
i know none of yall are launchpad alts
The Bear
Obligatory Gay Bear of the Society
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==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
Lifeboat (3 votes)
Submarine - #882 #914
Gondola - #942
Inflatable Boat - #963
Beluga Whale - #1,005
Giant Rubber Duck (1 votes)
Yacht - #955
Skiff (1 votes)
Submarine - #982
Yacht (0 votes)
Submarine - #914 #982
Not voting: Giant Rubber Duck, Kayak, Lifeboat, Skiff
Post Counts:
Lifeboat: 24 Submarine: 20 Gondola: 16 Beluga Whale: 15 Giant Rubber Duck: 13 Inflatable Boat: 13 Skiff: 12 Yacht: 10 Kayak: 4
Current Countdown:
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==== DAY 3 VOTES ====
Day Start
Lifeboat (3 votes)
Gondola - #942
Inflatable Boat - #963
Beluga Whale - #1,005
Giant Rubber Duck (1 votes)
Yacht - #955
Skiff (1 votes)
Submarine - #982
Yacht (0 votes)
Not voting: Giant Rubber Duck, Kayak, Lifeboat, Skiff
Post Counts:
Lifeboat: 24 Submarine: 20 Gondola: 16 Beluga Whale: 15 Giant Rubber Duck: 13 Inflatable Boat: 13 Skiff: 12 Yacht: 10 Kayak: 4
Current Countdown:
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Skiff
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no one reposted this?
the heck is wrong with you nerds
Inflatable Boat
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It's a small thing for now, and not one my partner thinks we can glean much from due to all the variables, but it still bugs me so here goes: let us go with the assumption that the fake Doctor claim was done to not only save Houseboat for at least a day, but also (and most importantly) to try and smoke out the real doctor. When I sift through everyone's reactions to Houseboat's claim, I couldn't find shade....except from Yacht. And it wasn't quiet or subtle. I couldn't be convinced scum missed it.
Who would read this and reasonably think anything other than Yacht is the real doctor? Or put another way, why would Jet Ski specifically take the NK instead of Yacht?
I have a theory, but I'd prefer to hear from people first.
Giant Rubber Duck
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Yacht was almost voted out. I think most mafia would assume a doctor Yacht in that position counter claims Houseboat.
Gondola
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Okay, I get it. Yeah, the problem here is that there's probably a legitimate answer to that question but we won't know for sure until the game is over, it basically devolves into wifom. It's a good observation though, i hadn't considered the kill on that level at all.
Kayak
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I read it and posted in lovers chat that Yacht was either the real doc or scum from that post. Scum play being they are trying to bait the real doc to claim. Real doc being they trying to push HB w/o claiming.
Kayak
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Sorry folks, my partner has had to do all the heavy lifting due to some life stuff over the past few days. Just caught up fully after missing last day end and all of this phase so far. Wanted to get some thoughts out.
Honestly there’s a good chunk of players I’m town reading at this point (duck, inflatable, beluga, gondola). I still think Yacht is mafia, I think I have them as a higher chance than my partner does. That said, I agree with their top choice in Lifeboat at this point, but there’s one analysis I want to do before day end so I’m going to hold a vote for now since we’d be one off majority.
Honestly there’s a good chunk of players I’m town reading at this point (duck, inflatable, beluga, gondola). I still think Yacht is mafia, I think I have them as a higher chance than my partner does. That said, I agree with their top choice in Lifeboat at this point, but there’s one analysis I want to do before day end so I’m going to hold a vote for now since we’d be one off majority.
Beluga Whale
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I read it as disbelief and could see it as Yacht soft claiming, but feel that it's too WIFOM.
On the flipside, why does scum Yacht say this when their teammate claims doctor?
Lifeboat
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I don't think that comment is sus tbh. I'm not 100% clearing yacht based on their interaction with houseboat i wanted other people to read and decide. My opinions have not been great so far.
I think you can read an element of fake frustration. But Yacht was a decently early vote on Houseboat. And did push on them a bit.
BTW can you unvote. Turbo for this phase would be bad. New Skiff needs to catch up a few people aren't really playing on the weekend so i expect a quiet phase. Give people a bit more time.
FWIW I think I will claim now. There is not much too it. And I already gave away i wasn't the cop. So we are a Ghost. And will haunt the thread for one day phase after we die. We don't have anything to do with voting but we still get to post.
Skiff
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im this close to asking for a phrase extension
Giant Rubber Duck
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If you need help with anything just ask.
Submarine
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*surfaces after a very deep five in the farming sea* Sorry about that folks I got sucked into farming for various games. Those of you who have figured out who i am will know what games those are LOL.
ANYWAYS I am here! I am ready to ISO and thank you so much you nerds for not turboing before I got to do so.
Before I begin my ISOing, I will say some quick thoughts.
Gondola and Duck are my biggest town reads and lifeboat feels the most suspicious to me.
As it should be clear 2 is more trusting of LB than me, but hey maybe myself actually putting in work will help us come to a better conclusion.
2 is also really suspicious of Skiff while I mostly just have a big ole nothing there so I will begin my ISO there!
ANYWAYS I am here! I am ready to ISO and thank you so much you nerds for not turboing before I got to do so.
Before I begin my ISOing, I will say some quick thoughts.
Gondola and Duck are my biggest town reads and lifeboat feels the most suspicious to me.
As it should be clear 2 is more trusting of LB than me, but hey maybe myself actually putting in work will help us come to a better conclusion.
2 is also really suspicious of Skiff while I mostly just have a big ole nothing there so I will begin my ISO there!
Giant Rubber Duck
Costume
we are about 24 hours into the day and think that’s more than enough time to see where everyone landed
my theory was that scum would want to push on lifeboat today and after seeing all your posts and reactions i still hold that thought
lifeboat is town because we are the cop and have a green check on them
we will not be elaborating further on our claim and we have no other checks to share with you all at this time
my theory was that scum would want to push on lifeboat today and after seeing all your posts and reactions i still hold that thought
lifeboat is town because we are the cop and have a green check on them
we will not be elaborating further on our claim and we have no other checks to share with you all at this time
Inflatable Boat
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Hmm, interesting. Did you hint this anywhere at all?
Unvote
^ This Unvote is not to say I trust Lifeboat (I do not lol) but I agree with giving folks more time to interact and not accidentally turboing.
Submarine
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and not the fact that duck just green checked them? XD
Beluga Whale
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Inflatable Boat
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I told my partner in our chat earlier that Lifeboat fishing for a cop check screamed Godfather and I still stand by that.
If you don't mind me asking why did you decide to claim now? We're down a Scum and Lifeboat - if they died today and are telling the truth - would be around tomorrow to still participate. Seems kinda odd to go out by saving them.
they did that as I posted!!
Giant Rubber Duck
Costume
i think kayak and beluga come out looking the worst imo
submarine and kayak both came into the day gun blazing on lifeboat but submarine actually looked like they did research and read the thread
kayak looks like they just wanted to tunnel lifeboat after a cursory explanation of everyone else
beluga set up dominos with a “”if lifeboat is town then I think x is scum”” (x is yacht i think) and to be fair i saw submarine do the same but beluga feels very mastermind today
i would votebetween those two and for the sake of being spicy
VOTE: Beluga Whale
submarine and kayak both came into the day gun blazing on lifeboat but submarine actually looked like they did research and read the thread
kayak looks like they just wanted to tunnel lifeboat after a cursory explanation of everyone else
beluga set up dominos with a “”if lifeboat is town then I think x is scum”” (x is yacht i think) and to be fair i saw submarine do the same but beluga feels very mastermind today
i would votebetween those two and for the sake of being spicy
VOTE: Beluga Whale
Kayak
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Hmm, that would explain some of the play and them going so hard with defending scum tbh. I also dont agree with cop claiming so early, but we here now.
Giant Rubber Duck
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lifeboat’s role is useless we still lose a town to a mislynch
this is a small game there is zero reason to allow a green check to be voted out
Kayak
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How, when I've said lb, yacht, and sub are my scum.
Giant Rubber Duck
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also the odds of it being a godfather are extremely low in our opinion
Beluga Whale
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Where did we say that?
Inflatable Boat
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>.>
Answer if you want but is this Role related or just reads based? Because while I do trust you I find the latter less compelling.
Inflatable Boat
Costume
Do you believe Duck? What do you make of Lifeboat now?
Submarine
Costume
Duck was one of my top town so i believe the claim as we have no reason not to outside of a counter claim. As a result i also believe their green check.
Giant Rubber Duck
Costume
a little of both but the role is speaking more when i say that
Inflatable Boat
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Sigh, alright. I'll trust the check, then.
I'm going to go pout in a corner now. And then do some more reading.
Submarine
Costume
before the read Skiff was a big ole nothing, so I look back and I see... consistency.
They were first sus because of Lifeboats #251 post
And have been pretty consistent about that sense. Their reason for lifeboat day 1 was because they felt LB was leaving themselves too open for targets too push and they voted LB because of it.
People ahve found them sus for saying they wouldn't vote Yacht and then doing so, but they have explained it and I can get making a post and forgetting your reasoning later as I have actually done that as town lol
The only part that gives me pause was that they were so gungho about LB day one but have switched to Yacht despite the connection being the main reason for voting Yacht in the first place.
@Skiff How do you feel Skiff prime about both LB (especially with the green check) and Yacht now considering all this?
They were first sus because of Lifeboats #251 post
They haven't done anything to push anyone since #251, they've been concentrating on submarine drama. I could be wrong and even if I'm right it could be a town making an inauthentic post to try and seem more towny, it happens.
Ultimately I don't scum read anyone, I lack the confidence to hold that kind of belief. To trust or distrust another soul.
But I would vote them.
And have been pretty consistent about that sense. Their reason for lifeboat day 1 was because they felt LB was leaving themselves too open for targets too push and they voted LB because of it.
The switch to Yacht was because they thought Yacht was connected to LB for defending them and thought Yacht was a better push I guess?
Even on day 2 they were still leaning Yacht.
People ahve found them sus for saying they wouldn't vote Yacht and then doing so, but they have explained it and I can get making a post and forgetting your reasoning later as I have actually done that as town lol
The only part that gives me pause was that they were so gungho about LB day one but have switched to Yacht despite the connection being the main reason for voting Yacht in the first place.
@Skiff How do you feel Skiff prime about both LB (especially with the green check) and Yacht now considering all this?
Submarine
Costume
lol don't think skiff is scum might have been a strong phrase. I should have said "I don't have them as my major scum read" I think their voting record makes sense and is consistent for how they have felt this game, but it's not enough for me to give them a full town past. I just want to reassess before we vote there again.
I'd also love to know your reasoning for voting skiff 2.
Inflatable Boat
Costume
With the green check out now would you still like me to get back to the first question?
Inflatable Boat
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Lifeboat
Costume
Yeah.
2 docs Odd/even
investigator
us as ghost
6 Vanilla or possibly one other weak PR
Mafia is like Goon, Strongman Godfather.
That seemed fine to me.
Submarine
Costume
PoE mostly.
Lifeboat
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That's exactly the theory that Lifeboat 1 posted in our chat when I disagreed with them about the 2 docs theory in here.
Submarine
Costume
Okay so day one, Yacht mostly felt good to me but felt off near the end of my ISO because of their votes. 2 agreed with me that their voting history was the most sus part about them.
Today after reading all of Yacht... I'm giving them a pass and honestly feel good about them.
They still ended up voting elsewhere
Bussing is very much a thing, and it could have been a plan from the get go for Yacht to doubt HB's claim for townie points if HB flipped, but the fact they kept about it consistently and assessed each situation fairly and wanting to be sure on their choices gives a way more positive read of them. So really outside of the possibility of it being a bus, I lean town on them.
Today of course they decided to focus on duck... but we have yet to see their reaction to duck's claim XD So we'll see how they handle that.
Today after reading all of Yacht... I'm giving them a pass and honestly feel good about them.
They voted for HB and were sus of them still even with the claim.
They still ended up voting elsewhere
(voting Skiff for trying to tie them to LB) But like everyone else they were going to give HB a pass for the day to see what would happen over night and later in game.
They continued their suspicions of HB on day 2 because HB lived, but spent a good part of the day trying to figure out LB's "slip" about HB being 2 shot apparently.
We were just discussing HB and Cruise right before this and leaning scum on both lol. Gonna see if that counter checks out, gut says HB has more smoke around them.
However when Cruise claimed, they looked at the situation and assessed who was more sus between the two and ultimately focused on their main scum lean good ole HB.
Bussing is very much a thing, and it could have been a plan from the get go for Yacht to doubt HB's claim for townie points if HB flipped, but the fact they kept about it consistently and assessed each situation fairly and wanting to be sure on their choices gives a way more positive read of them. So really outside of the possibility of it being a bus, I lean town on them.
Today of course they decided to focus on duck... but we have yet to see their reaction to duck's claim XD So we'll see how they handle that.
Kayak
Costume
I think it's a mistake to go "no way there is a godfather because X", their play lines up perfectly with someone trying to get investigated that "just wrong town". Im willing to table the Lboat flip for today. Which leaves Sub and Yacht for this half of the kayak.
I may need to look over other players like Skiff and Bel.
I may need to look over other players like Skiff and Bel.
Beluga Whale
Costume
This half of the beluga whale is willing to believe the duck, for the moment. Will look to see what Skiff says about all this
Submarine
Costume
what exactly do you mean?
Skiff
Costume
alright
listen
lets say ur sub A
i ask you for ur reads on 3 people, and one of them is ur scum partner
there is a chance sub a will act differently than sub b
and BAM we got them into a trap
Submarine
Costume
I'm not sub a tho. I'm Sub Engineer number 1.
Also I feel like most scum will be reading the thread enough to know what they partner has posted lol.
Skiff
Costume
top 2 scum/town
lets go
Inflatable Boat
Costume
you go first
Gondola
Costume
Now is not the best time given I just got told my top scum read was green checked.
Next up is probably you, I feel like Skiff prime has managed to avoided giving us much for days by focusing on a day one read/vote inconsistency.
I know my other half is a big Inflatable fan and I liked their isos today, but my top town is probably Duck just because they've done a damn good job chasing down leads. They were on top of House in D1, and at the end of D2 they and Beluga were right on the ball ensuring there was no wiggle room there for House to escape.
Are you caught up now, new Skiff?
Who are your top town/scum?
Submarine
Costume
duck and Gondola are my top town.
I'm working on figuring out my top scum currently. I thought it was Lifeboat and Yacht, but LB got green checked and Yacht felt a lot better after my ISO.
Skiff
Costume
im on page 6 and i got past the doctor role claim post
sheesh
you know how many posts r on one page
and all the boats people look the same
Skiff
Costume
i was HOPINg that my PARTNER would FILL in the GRAP
Skiff
Costume
bruh
Submarine
Costume
it's how it works dude. Since you nerds share an account if one sees a page it will be marked s read for the other and I want my question answered lol.
Submarine
Costume
they've been calling themselves Skiff Prime and sort have earned it since their partner didn't talk to them much lol.
Skiff
Costume
they barely been talking to me and you want
get out of here
i told them about it in chat so when they respond :shrug
Submarine
Costume
thank you skiff!
Skiff
Costume
summarize for me what happen on day 2
when was doctor counter claimed
Submarine
Costume
Uhhh halfway through the day phase? all I know is it happened while I was gone and the jerks turboed before I found out lol
Skiff
Costume
ok i remember reading that post when i subbed in
alright time for some digging
Submarine
Costume
Gambate Skiff-san!
Inflatable Boat
Costume
I'm fairly sure I know who that is and, if I'm right, this is 100% in their Scum playbook to say 'I'm catching up!!' for a long while and never actually give anything out in the process.
see: a few of us asking for their top scum/town and them not giving it. I know they just subbed in but there is enough going on here to get some sort of opinion.
see: a few of us asking for their top scum/town and them not giving it. I know they just subbed in but there is enough going on here to get some sort of opinion.
Submarine
Costume
Nope that's it.
Skiff
Costume
I see this as ur justification for voting for galleon day 1, one of the first votes there
did anything the rest of the day phrase not effect this vote? why did you stay here?
Inflatable Boat
Costume
Yeah, your green check kinda took the direction away from me. My partner has more leads than I do but they are busy at the moment.
Feel like we're gonna sleepwalk into a Skiff vote and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Submarine
Costume
2 was the one to post and vote, but we stayed on Galleon because they were the most suspicious to both of us that entire day phase.
I had done some Isos and found Galleon to be the most sus because of their focus on Houseboat with the weird comment about protection especially after HB's claim.
2 meanwhile was leaning between Galleon or Yacht with a focus on Galleon.
Galleon flipping town really threw us off.
Skiff
Costume
where did you go on day 2?
Skiff
Costume
Yacht
Costume
I believe Duck. Their day 2 felt odd but they were already coming up better from their day 1 and HB interactions. I also don't see a scum Duck can make this play, I don't think it wins for a Duck/Lifeboat pair.
I think Lifeboat is more likely to be town than a godfather based on their play throughout the game.
So I think the people pushing Lifeboat today are a good focus. Sub, Kayak, IB, Gondola and Beluga. Of these IB is my top town and Sub would prob be 2nd. Will revisit the other 3.
I think Lifeboat is more likely to be town than a godfather based on their play throughout the game.
So I think the people pushing Lifeboat today are a good focus. Sub, Kayak, IB, Gondola and Beluga. Of these IB is my top town and Sub would prob be 2nd. Will revisit the other 3.
Lifeboat
Costume
I don't hate the skiff vote, it just feels like low hanging fruit but what have mafia been doing this game? Should we be thinking they have been cunning and planning or have they bumbled their way to being in contention on day 1, a desperate fake claim and one of the least active players is mafia too.
Submarine
Costume
2 was around most of the day lol. As for me I was taking a break because I didn't feel like it honestly (trying to find that sweet sweet mafia life balance) and I assumed naturally we'd have until friday before day end so i could put in work Thursday mainly during the part of the day when I wasn't busy with RL shit.
The issue was that when I went to check during the point I could actually work, the counter claim had occurred and everyone turboed!
2 even said I'd probably be okay with it but I actually wasn't. Our night in the sub wasn't a calm one let me tell you XD
Skiff
Costume
Skiff
Costume
why was ur vote on day 1 stuck on me?
Inflatable Boat
Costume
Reread end of Day 1, Day 2, and then some of Day 3.
Lot to parse but I'm coming to a couple of things:
1. Sub doesn't come across as well, actually. Lot's of blowing off HB scum vibes/reads on D1 or pushing it to their partner, no real interaction with HB post-counter claim on D2 besides the hammer, etc. Their posts read very well on the surface but action-wise in the grand scheme it's not a great look. Some examples below of downplaying HB's scumminess and I would recommend looking at D2 to see how little they did around HB. Scum maybe?
[Imagine Cruise's Counter claim is here, this happens 1 post after it]
And, like I said, many of their D2 post-counter claim looks pretty good at trying to figure stuff out.
3. Kayak's biggest negative (and slight positive) is their vote on HB early D1. Here's is the post itself and, as many have said, it's a read on Duck and Yacht that ends with a Houseboat vote for some reason.
The votes at the time of Kayak's Yacht vote were;
Houseboat (3) - Galleon, Duck, Kayak
Sub (1) - Beluga
Kayak (1) - Lifeboat
Galleon (1) - Sub
Yacht (1) - Jet Ski
This moves Houseboat back to 2 and Yacht up to 2.
Lot to parse but I'm coming to a couple of things:
1. Sub doesn't come across as well, actually. Lot's of blowing off HB scum vibes/reads on D1 or pushing it to their partner, no real interaction with HB post-counter claim on D2 besides the hammer, etc. Their posts read very well on the surface but action-wise in the grand scheme it's not a great look. Some examples below of downplaying HB's scumminess and I would recommend looking at D2 to see how little they did around HB. Scum maybe?
This next one is in regards to HB's 'prepared post' comment;
2. Beluga is another odd one since their vote D1 isn't the best thing but their actions - in comparison to Sub's - look great. Lots of pushing of HB post-counter claim and just a general trying to figure out. This string in particular reads well to me - like they were looking back to figure out stuff.
[Imagine Cruise's Counter claim is here, this happens 1 post after it]
And, like I said, many of their D2 post-counter claim looks pretty good at trying to figure stuff out.
3. Kayak's biggest negative (and slight positive) is their vote on HB early D1. Here's is the post itself and, as many have said, it's a read on Duck and Yacht that ends with a Houseboat vote for some reason.
Yacht' does call it out how weird this is, which Kayak responds was to break a tie and make more contention in the votes. This feels rather odd to do so early in D1 unless you know that one of those tied votes is important - or Scum, in this case. a Scum!Kayak would want to get involved with their buddy who is getting pressure but keep themselves open for other moves.
Kayak's eventual move off of HB is in response to Jet Ski's vote on Yacht. Which is interesting since, if Kayak was so concerned about breaking the tie, why immediatly move off of it to create a new tie? Especially if it was to 'see what would happen' as they didn't stay on that HB vote long.
The votes at the time of Kayak's Yacht vote were;
Houseboat (3) - Galleon, Duck, Kayak
Sub (1) - Beluga
Kayak (1) - Lifeboat
Galleon (1) - Sub
Yacht (1) - Jet Ski
This moves Houseboat back to 2 and Yacht up to 2.
4. Another semi-point for Yacht on D2 pre-counter claim. They still wanted Houseboat dead despite the claim and it just....feels genuine, idk. Read it and tell me what ya'll think.
5. Is this a perspective slip from Gondola? It's to Yacht about the D1 end and if we should figure out what Yacht's alignment is. Seems to assume that Yacht is Town.
Skiff
Costume
what a game huh
Submarine
Costume
As I said in my Yacht ISO, they were pretty consistent in not trusting HB with the claim and honestly that is a lot of what is making me town read them more. Between Skiff and Yacht out of the two i have ISO'd today, I feel a lot better about Yacht than Skiff.
The only way Yacht is scum is if it was a long bus hoping to either get themselves yeeted or HB for town points on the other, but even then I won't really consider it unless there are no other avenues.
Skiff
Costume
please dont do this to me