RPG Mafia - Secret Chrono Fantasy Trail CIXVI

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I was actually thinking the same thing. I'm fine with all of that list except the Fireblend read, if anything he's being more aggressive than I remember his play as.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Idk what to tell you ur association with Chuggs doomed you in my eyes. I already said it was less what you said but how you both said and the timing of it that stuck out to me. It felt like a canned response that was pre-discussed.

The phase "why would scum do X" as a gotcha is a boring why to play. I don't all the answers and but I don't find that a helpful phrase and it just shuts down a discussion.

Idk why scum does what scum does especially not on d1.
Should I be insulted by this idea that I wasn't trusted to explain my own post?
 

Sorian

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Staff member
I went back to look through Coppa's posts again and I'm still probably coming back with a negative feeling because I don't like the RP gimmick here but there really isn't anything of value in here. I do agree with him that it was weird that melon was trying to dig at his role even though I feel like it's fairly obvious this isn't role related. But otherwise, I feel like Coppa has talked about nothing the rest of the game. I'm still not going to vote there. I don't like targeting someone day 1 who won't even be here to defend themselves unless I had more of a reason and this boils down to a hunch and vibes so I'm sticking to the Muffin vote but I'm watching this spot a lot more if I'm still here tomorrow.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Oh Alex has three votes. I don’t know I’ve cooled on that a bit, but I don’t hate that one.

Anyway someone should come vote for Muffin and see what shakes out could be fun!
 
@HPSauce, @Geno and @Alexem why are your votes still on Ty? Since the conversation has moved off, and the rest of the voting is largely today vs yesterday (in the split of the current mafia days 48 hr period), im looking for why you three haven’t moved yet.

captain’s vote, while I disagree with it, is at least recent.

I dunno it’s just weird
 

Sorian

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Staff member
I like the current vote spread, I wonder how that will hold up as we get closer to day end and people decide they want to exp hunt. All these options are fine to me except Ty. I'm not even mad at voting out Ty, I'm just more annoyed that it's going to act as a safe haven for people to park an easy vote. Geno and Coppa are just going to live there with no other input today probably and Alexem is slightly better but also is taking the easy vote. HP is fine, I feel like he gave good enough reasons to be there and he's still engaging with the game.
 
@HPSauce, @Geno and @Alexem why are your votes still on Ty? Since the conversation has moved off, and the rest of the voting is largely today vs yesterday (in the split of the current mafia days 48 hr period), im looking for why you three haven’t moved yet.
That's a weird question, why would you ask me that when I said I believe Ty slipped? I wasn't on him because of the conversation that was happening, I am on him because I believe he is scum. And I intend to stay there.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Geno really does only appear when someone says his name huh. This tells me you are more present than you're letting on.
 

malus

#1 official chartmaker
I'm never gonna play in a way yall like. I ain't here to please.

Town:
Mel(on)
- def a real one.

Leaning to town:
Fran
- feels like the real problem solver and trying to generate helpful engagement from ppl. This is how I remember Fran as town to be.
Sorian - seems frustrated and tired of town being so town-y and I can relate. He came away best from round 1 with chuggs and again with (limited) pressure from sneeks.
Wiz - Having a bit of fun with some of the quest and mechanic talk but I feel it's from a genuine place.
Neon - Idk if I played with them before but I like how they handled themselves under pressure and their reads felt like a real attempt to solve.
Alexem - not a super strong lean at all. but has done some solving to separate from the null stack of coasters.

Probably not town but whatever:
Cap - a lot of spiraling for a joke but I do think something is here and I so want to see how it plays out.
Ty - that read list felt like from the future with all the support and backing for ppl and just didn't describe the d1 we've had at all. I do think the slip was an honest mistake or an assumption made based on their own role but I don't think that automatically makes Ty scum. Maybe a xp thief ?

Feeling bad about outside the trio (Chuggs, Sneeks and HP):
TWE - mostly vibes.
Febe - flying more under the radar that I would expect for Town!Febe.
Turm - active in the beginning but I don't feel like they're doing much to solve.

After sleeping on it I feel slightly better about Chuggs, worse about Sneeks and the exact same about HP who gave me little else to work with.

This stack of null at the bottom sucks:

Geno
Muffin
Blarg
Nin
Zipped
Natiko



Where I'm at rn.
So null, i didn't even make the null list :(
 
That's a weird question, why would you ask me that when I said I believe Ty slipped? I wasn't on him because of the conversation that was happening, I am on him because I believe he is scum. And I intend to stay there.
Why do you believe he's scum? is it just the slip, is it the followup, his behavior after? Any of that moved the needle at all?
 
Geno really does only appear when someone says his name huh. This tells me you are more present than you're letting on.
I refresh every like 20 minutes or so when I'm sitting on the computer, but most of the time I don't have anything to add
 
But also that was like the first time it happened so idk about the "only appears when summoned" thing
 
Why do you believe he's scum? is it just the slip, is it the followup, his behavior after? Any of that moved the needle at all?
Unless a cop comes with a green check or some other mechanic clears him he is scum, I don't care what he posts.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
[...]
Who hasn't checked in? TWE, Geno, Blarg, Melon and Zipped?
[...]
(I'd like to see Blarg and Geno and Nin actually... contribute and post more. I'll chalk this up to time differences for the time being, but I hope to see some contributions from them when I wake up, or I'd be starting to push their feet to the flames in D2.)
Man, I don't really like this. I ask for some reads and get Sneeks, Chuggs and Sorian which I appreciate even if they didn't have much meat behind them but then we have Blarg, Geno and Nin who, let's be honest here, are the easiest reads to make because there is nothing there but fluff. And then he would start pushind D2, why not D1? Why let it be an extra day? This wasn't what I was hoping when asking for reads (that's why I asked Zipped to skip the coaster and give some better reads).
[...]
(I didn't know Blarg and Geno were in this game lol)
[...]
I'm ignoring Blarg because if he does start posting, he is easy to read anyway
[...]
- I'm happy Blarg is here, leave him alone until day 3 and we can do the usual easy read of him.
[...]
Gonna need to see Blarg and Geno show up sooner rather than later too
[...]
I don't love Blarg and Geno being MIA though I appreciate stuff happens so I'm not gonna read too much into that *yet*.
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Does @Blargonaut know the game has started? lmao
Oh Blarg is in this game :o
[...]
Nothing
Blargonaut - Come join us
[...]
i missed you blarg it's good to see you
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[He/Him] Blargonaut - UTC+8 - Bro meme'd and then dipped. Give him a Day or two to start solving. If he doesn't? Kill him.
[...]
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Null. Don't know what to make of him given the lack of activity and their randomness.
Blargonaut
[...]
I would like to hear more from nin and interested in what 4D chess blarg is playing with Amazon reviews.
[...]
[...]
  • Blarg is Blarg. He usually talks sense when it comes to the crunch, though, so I'm hoping he has more to say today.
[...]
[...]
(Blarg. I agree. He's always hard to read, but here in particular felt even less informative than usual. He claimed he was breadcrumbing, but it's unclear where the loaf ends up. I hope he posts more before I retire for the evening.)
[...]
(I'd like to see Blarg and Geno and Nin actually... contribute and post more. I'll chalk this up to time differences for the time being, but I hope to see some contributions from them when I wake up, or I'd be starting to push their feet to the flames in D2.)
[...]
I would leave Blarg alone for the simple reason I find his post style amusing and I am not sorry about this.
[...]
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And then there's also some holes in my brain like The Wizard, Zipped and Blarg. No read on those yet. Not even sure who else I'm missing.

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Morning everyone.

Unless a cop comes with a green check or some other mechanic clears him he is scum, I don't care what he posts.

I assume you are a more firm believer in the fact that his mechanics error was a slip and you are sticking to that.

While I also don't buy 100% that, I think that tunnel visioning on this as a black/white scum town read is a bit rash. Do you have any reasons beyond the mechanics thing? Something about his reads bugging you?
 

Alexem

Yeah, I'm town
@HPSauce, @Geno and @Alexem why are your votes still on Ty? Since the conversation has moved off, and the rest of the voting is largely today vs yesterday (in the split of the current mafia days 48 hr period), im looking for why you three haven’t moved yet.

captain’s vote, while I disagree with it, is at least recent.

I dunno it’s just weird
I explained earlier on, but to recap - I feel there's have a reason to vote for Ty in that there's a question I'd like an answer to, whereas I don't really feel strongly about the other contending options and I'd rather vote with some kind of reason in my head than just based on vibes.
 
Morning everyone.



I assume you are a more firm believer in the fact that his mechanics error was a slip and you are sticking to that.

While I also don't buy 100% that, I think that tunnel visioning on this as a black/white scum town read is a bit rash. Do you have any reasons beyond the mechanics thing? Something about his reads bugging you?
How is that question different from what I asked? He answered.
 
How is that question different from what I asked? He answered.
He answered with a non answer. His response was the equivalent of "unless someone brings solid evidence that is unavailable right now, I'm not moving from here". It reads as obstinately deflecting to me.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Oh Alex has three votes. I don’t know I’ve cooled on that a bit, but I don’t hate that one.

Anyway someone should come vote for Muffin and see what shakes out could be fun!
Sell me on muffin. I’m on my phone and too lazy to hunt down posts.
 
He answered with a non answer. His response was the equivalent of "unless someone brings solid evidence that is unavailable right now, I'm not moving from here". It reads as obstinately deflecting to me.
That's not a non-answer. Feels pretty clear to me. What's the point of asking the same thing.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
But also that was like the first time it happened so idk about the "only appears when summoned" thing
Your entrance into the game literally happened like 20 minutes after a couple of us commented that we forgot you were in the game. So it's the second time.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Sell me on muffin. I’m on my phone and too lazy to hunt down posts.
He absolutely refuses to elaborate on his Geno vote. He won't give any reads aside from the one town read he put down (Geno wasn't even a scum read prior, he just made the vote and said vibes) and he didn't even start with any of the stuff until after I voted him and put a little pressure, before that he was coasting with fluff posts and more just commenting on current events like you instead of actually giving his opinion on it.
 

nin1000

Chilean German Madman
I’m back and will try to catch up asap. Will also be there for the day end so don’t worry. I’m here to save the day once again
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
If I had my computer rn I’d look more closely at Captain. Not hating the votes there.
The vote on me just felt, calculated. Like protecting scum calculated by keeping my wagon up and getting a vote down as mafia.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
He absolutely refuses to elaborate on his Geno vote. He won't give any reads aside from the one town read he put down (Geno wasn't even a scum read prior, he just made the vote and said vibes) and he didn't even start with any of the stuff until after I voted him and put a little pressure, before that he was coasting with fluff posts and more just commenting on current events like you instead of actually giving his opinion on it.
Stop, you’re making me townread him more lol

I guess I’ll have to take a look now
 

Sorian

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Staff member
The problem with Geno is when he thinks he found something mechanical to clear or accuse someone, he will not drop it and he will not think any more until it's taken care of. Even if we don't kill Ty today, Geno is just going to hyper fixate there until a cop comes and says he is fine or he's dead. We won't be able to get any real gameplay out of him now until Ty is resolved.
 

The Wizard

Confidently Incorrect
What do you think of HPSauce's vote?
I like it, looks like a real progression to me. In particular, I think the paranoia around a jester -feels towny if someone thinks they caught a slip but is thinking through if it’s too obvious.
 

Franconp

Frank
@Geno if you can answer me this:

Let's say that we don't lynch Ty today and he is around D2 (and for the sake of this hypothetical situation we both the lynch and NK are town) what would you do tomorrow:

A- Keep tunnelling
B- Move on
 
Morning everyone.



I assume you are a more firm believer in the fact that his mechanics error was a slip and you are sticking to that.

While I also don't buy 100% that, I think that tunnel visioning on this as a black/white scum town read is a bit rash. Do you have any reasons beyond the mechanics thing? Something about his reads bugging you?
You asked me the same question, Fireblend is right.
Your entrance into the game literally happened like 20 minutes after a couple of us commented that we forgot you were in the game. So it's the second time.
So you basically think I was lying that I didn't know day started then? Like I wouldn't have even popped to say a hello before? I was mentioned by HP almost 3 hours before the post that "summoned" me. You know that' it's pretty unfair to count that as an example of what you're saying.
 

Sorian

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Staff member
Why don’t you like turmoil? If you said before you can just summarize without rehashing it.
Not enough for me to want to vote him but he had a weird line yesterday about Chuggs doing everything in his power to keep the game about Ty and not let the thread move on and I felt like that didn't really characterize Chuggs much, I feel like that would have applied to other player's better. I've also seen other comments and reads where it's like he's thinking about one player but he says someone else instead. It gives me the vibe of someone just skimming the thread and not too concerned about solving.

Again, I'm not voting this so I'm not really heavily invested in this read but it's enough that I have negative association with him this game.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
I believe I should be here for day end.

He's been around, but hasn't really tried to push the game forward.

This is the only post with actual substance:

And it's basically just switching from one low hanging fruit to another low hanging fruit.
His earlier vote on Turmoil was just a meme vote, but he later tries to justify it anyway:
Okay, I can see that argument. Hell - it feels like in those couple of posts alone there’s inconsistency in how he shades Turm for the XP stuff but at the same time is openly voting saying he needs XP lol

Woke up and caught up, I should be here through the end of the day. Right now Turm, Muffin, Neon and Melon are the ones I wouldn't mind flipping; Turm because of the reasons I've already explained (I really didn't like their posts asking for us to "move on" from ty when they happened, and the later one saying he liked my reasons for voting him (?)), Muffin because he seems pretty non-committal so far and unlike other posters that have been posting but haven't given me much to go on (like Cap), the vibes are kinda off, Neon because I do think their initial ty post was bad and then when I applied some pressure he couldn't explain themselves well, it was almost like they were recycling Ty's misreading excuse, and finally Melon is the most vibes based one but the rapid posting and alternating between joke comments and kind of responding to what's happening but in a sort of superficial way of the last two pages doesn't sit super right with me. I also disagree with her scum team.

Captain I wouldn't vote for. Not that he's being pressured but I feel like he reads as kind of trying to get a sense for the game still. I would be much more interested in seeing how he plays after N1.

Geno I also wouldn't vote for, he hasn't posted that much and so far he's been the Geno I know.

Nin, I always kind of get bad vibes from his play and posting style so probably wouldn't try to turn over that stone just yet.

Chuggs vs Sneeks felt like a whole lot of nothing to me. Maybe I did get pocketed by Chuggs but I don't see anything so far to suggest he'd be a good flip even if he's the weakest of my town reads. Sorian and Sneeks I'm also ok with, and Fran also feels good.

For the others I have to go back and read. Natiko and Alexem are two that I've thought I could be convinced to vote for, rereading the last page, but I have to make sure I'm not just reading y'all's list and borrowing your opinions lol. Natiko did make me wonder when he removed his vote for me after applying the softest pressure ever, and then consistently town reading me, but I don't think there's quite enough there.

And then there's also some holes in my brain like The Wizard, Zipped and Blarg. No read on those yet. Not even sure who else I'm missing.
To be fair I progressed from a light scum lean from early reactions to feeling improvement in your posts since then, and tbh I feel pretty justified in that given the post in question that pinged me as scummy vs your contributions since then.

On another note, I really need to go back and read through the discussion around Neon. I don’t know that they stand out to me, but there’s been enough talk there I need to revisit.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
Ok, still not getting the big scumread against muffin. Sure he’s not the towniest player, but he seems pretty middle of the road. He’s more being lazy and playing his own game rather than struggling to produce content, at least that’s how I read it.
 

Ty4on

The 4 is silent
@Geno if you can answer me this:

Let's say that we don't lynch Ty today and he is around D2 (and for the sake of this hypothetical situation we both the lynch and NK are town) what would you do tomorrow:

A- Keep tunnelling
B- Move on
I think I know the answer to this
 
@Geno if you can answer me this:

Let's say that we don't lynch Ty today and he is around D2 (and for the sake of this hypothetical situation we both the lynch and NK are town) what would you do tomorrow:

A- Keep tunnelling
B- Move on
I mean if someone comes out with proof someone else other than Ty is scum then I'm going there, otherwise Ty. I know some of you will hate me for this, that I'm so fixated on him, I'm not sure if it's ruining the game or something, but it's just what I believe.
 

Blargonaut

SCUM UP!
prithee afore the solar flight hearken shant I harbour a qualm to wield mine posthaste upon they who might have fled demise if not for the fickleness of the masses' decree
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Does @Geno still refuse to post on day 1?

(I didn't know Blarg and Geno were in this game lol)

Natiko's opening has been very Natiko coded. I will not elaborate further on what that means since I would just go into a wormhole of meta but it's at least a slight town read from me.

I'm here, forgot day started, let me catch up. Favorite RPG is Super Mario RPG

I'm not going to argue semantics with you Geno, your post here is at 10:15 my time and my post and Natiko's post are at 9:52 and 9:57 so yes, it looked a little scummoning. I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of accusing you of lying about game start because it's unprovable anyway but you've already self-admitted that you refresh the thread fairly regularly but largely don't say anything because you have nothing to add.
 
Anyway for something other than Ty since a lot of us don't like Muffin,
I feel like I got unlucky on my roll for this game but it happens sometimes.
There's a chance he just got like a very crappy role in his first game after 2-3 years and was like, man...I really don't even wanna play, which could result potentially in what we're seeing.
 

Hedin

Oops, All Scum!
Staff member
==== DAY 1 VOTES ====
Day Start

Ty4on (4 votes)
HPSauce - #345
Geno - #402
Alexem - #448
CaptainNuevo - #773

CaptainNuevo (4 votes)
Sawneeks - #624 #745
malus - #759
Franconp - #765
turmoil7 - #792
Blargonaut - #833

turmoil7 (4 votes)
CaptainNuevo - #36 #773
Fireblend - #384
malus - #416 #759
TheWorthyEdge - #720
Natiko - #780
Zippedpinhead - #794

Alexem (3 votes)
Ty4on - #548
Sawneeks - #756
The Wizard - #784

Muffin (2 votes)
Sorian - #660
Chuggernaut - #797

TheWorthyEdge (1 votes)
Neon - #743

Geno (1 votes)
Muffin - #691

Sawneeks (1 votes)
melonrabbit - #671
Chuggernaut - #678 #797

Sorian (0 votes)
The Wizard - #475 #784

Chuggernaut (0 votes)
turmoil7 - #169 #792
Sorian - #377 #660
melonrabbit - #626 #671

Neon (0 votes)
Chuggernaut - #240 #678

Fireblend (0 votes)
Natiko - #378 #453

Blargonaut (0 votes)
Blargonaut - #587 #833

Not voting: nin1000

Post Counts:
Chuggernaut: 147 melonrabbit: 128 Sorian: 93 Sawneeks: 67 Franconp: 61 Ty4on: 59 HPSauce: 52 CaptainNuevo: 47 nin1000: 37 Muffin: 36 Fireblend: 36 The Wizard: 34 Blargonaut: 31 Neon: 30 turmoil7: 30 Geno: 29 Alexem: 27 TheWorthyEdge: 19 malus: 17 Natiko: 16 Zippedpinhead: 10

Current Countdown:
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Ty4on

The 4 is silent
I mean if someone comes out with proof someone else other than Ty is scum then I'm going there, otherwise Ty. I know some of you will hate me for this, that I'm so fixated on him, I'm not sure if it's ruining the game or something, but it's just what I believe.
You don’t feel very fixated on me for someone who thinks I’m 100% scum
 
I'm not going to argue semantics with you Geno, your post here is at 10:15 my time and my post and Natiko's post are at 9:52 and 9:57 so yes, it looked a little scummoning. I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole of accusing you of lying about game start because it's unprovable anyway but you've already self-admitted that you refresh the thread fairly regularly but largely don't say anything because you have nothing to add.
Everyone does that, you really think whenever someone opens the thread that means they post? Nothing was happening let's be real.
 
Given work, I probably won't be around for EOD.

My eye is still on TWE for his not really activity playstyle. I'm not moving my vote from my corner even if it doesn't lead anywhere today.

You asked me the same question, Fireblend is right.
Very well then. I'm not pushing against that wall any more. Carry on.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Anyway for something other than Ty since a lot of us don't like Muffin,

There's a chance he just got like a very crappy role in his first game after 2-3 years and was like, man...I really don't even wanna play, which could result potentially in what we're seeing.
I'll take any scrap, you say a lot of "us"

Does that mean you also do not like Muffin this game?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Ok, still not getting the big scumread against muffin. Sure he’s not the towniest player, but he seems pretty middle of the road. He’s more being lazy and playing his own game rather than struggling to produce content, at least that’s how I read it.

I can actually see this as a read. I still kind of want some pressure there
 

Franconp

Frank
I mean if someone comes out with proof someone else other than Ty is scum then I'm going there, otherwise Ty. I know some of you will hate me for this, that I'm so fixated on him, I'm not sure if it's ruining the game or something, but it's just what I believe.

I'm just not sure if this just stubborn Town!Geno or it's scum!Geno finding something to latch on to avoid interacting with the game.

Honestly I wouldn't be bothered if Geno ends as today lynch. I don't think that I would vote there but I would understand if someone does.
 

Natiko

Town's Friendly Neighborhood Serial Killer
Unless a cop comes with a green check or some other mechanic clears him he is scum, I don't care what he posts.
Do you have any thoughts around the reactions to the slip given your confidence? Anyone stand out from that perspective?
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
Given work, I probably won't be around for EOD.

My eye is still on TWE for his not really activity playstyle. I'm not moving my vote from my corner even if it doesn't lead anywhere today.


Very well then. I'm not pushing against that wall any more. Carry on.

why. Do you townread everyone else that looks viable right now
 

Franconp

Frank
Anyway for something other than Ty since a lot of us don't like Muffin,

There's a chance he just got like a very crappy role in his first game after 2-3 years and was like, man...I really don't even wanna play, which could result potentially in what we're seeing.

Didn't Muffin said that he, even if he could, wouldn't share xp because he would like to use his toys?

Couldn't be me. Ima use those xp for myself regardless of how little useful I am, even if we could share, where is the fun in that

That doesn't sound like someone who hates his role.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Everyone does that, you really think whenever someone opens the thread that means they post? Nothing was happening let's be real.
Well you are talking to me so maybe you don't want me to answer but you go silent for way longer than the average player would.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I'm just not sure if this just stubborn Town!Geno or it's scum!Geno finding something to latch on to avoid interacting with the game.

Honestly I wouldn't be bothered if Geno ends as today lynch. I don't think that I would vote there but I would understand if someone does.
I'm not going to mince words, I think Geno plays better than this when he's scum which leans me heavily to town on his spot.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I also don't like the Muffin vote on me and not because it's me but because it feels like trying to play but not wanting to so he throws a vote randomly.

Says Chuggs is defensive for D1, Chuggs asks him, ok what about the other 19. He says he doesn't know


, then later he votes for me, Sorian asks for him to elaborate and Muffin says nah.
Ah fair, I did read this when I woke up, thank you.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
Would scum Geno ghost the thread for close to a full IRL day?
I think forgetting a game start is 100% in line with something human Geno would do so I don't think it's read worthy.
 
why. Do you townread everyone else that looks viable right now
On mobile right now, so my responses won't be as good.

Not really. I still scumread turm and both ty and cap strike me as neutral leaning towards scum right now. But the thunderdome situation that we gave right now has me doubtful since the votes being evenly split makes me think that the conversation has been funneled towards protecting one of the three.

If I changed votes to one of the 3, it' d probably be for turm. But since TWE is also voting for him, I'm not sure if I'd be making the right choice given that I've got reasons to suspect both.

Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly.
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
On mobile right now, so my responses won't be as good.

Not really. I still scumread turm and both ty and cap strike me as neutral leaning towards scum right now. But the thunderdome situation that we gave right now has me doubtful since the votes being evenly split makes me think that the conversation has been funneled towards protecting one of the three.

If I changed votes to one of the 3, it' d probably be for turm. But since TWE is also voting for him, I'm not sure if I'd be making the right choice given that I've got reasons to suspect both.

Not sure if I'm explaining myself correctly.

Are you that confident on TWE being scum that you don't want to be on the same vote as him? What if he's busing? I'm just trying to understand the point of being off wagon when you have people you wouldn't mind getting out up for a vote
 
Also. The fact that it has been mentioned that a turm mislynch is common on fay 1 makes me want to give voting for turm a bit of space.

Captain's wagon being based around his fluff posts gives me nothing to work with. Fran voted here and I read him as town, but the rest of the votes tell me nothing.

Ty's wagon is where most of the conversation has been all fay 1, and besides Geno, the votes on ty have been either early votes (HP) or votes made seemingly to defend themselves (Captain).
 
Are you that confident on TWE being scum that you don't want to be on the same vote as him? What if he's busing? I'm just trying to understand the point of being off wagon when you have people you wouldn't mind getting out up for a vote
I guess it's a combination of being afraid of a mislynch and being unsure of all the options.
 

HPSauce

Wait, I was right? Fuck
Honestly the way Zipped popped in posted up to 10 and then dipped has absolutely rattled me
 
I really don't like the "turm always gets voted out D1" argument because I don't want to reward what I'm perceiving as bad play.
 
I guess not changing my vote because of twe makes me a bit tunnel visioned. And I hadn't considered the possibility of both of them being scum.


Vote: turm
 

Chuggernaut

HONK HONK MF
I really don't like the "turm always gets voted out D1" argument because I don't want to reward what I'm perceiving as bad play.

I don't really think he's scum beyond that either. Like I don't understand why scum Turms would play this way. He's going to get voted out at some point. Town will not be able to resist.
 
Reread through Neon's posts and so far I still think they're sus but I'm surprised by how much I think his early post-fluff posts were ok. It's really everything after Ty said they had misread the rules that soured me on them, and there's very little after that to move the needle back to ok.

@Neon I don't think you ever answered this. In that post you said:
It's a bit of a stretch, imo, to confuse echange of points and exanging players.
...where did you get that from? Did you misread what Ty wrote? Because that's not what he said he was confused about at all.
 

Sorian

Neutral Ascetic 1-Shot BP SK Alignment Cop
Staff member
I think the one thing I’m confident on is Fireblend being town. I don’t see scum making these posts/doing this legwork.
 
Reread through Neon's posts and so far I still think they're sus but I'm surprised by how much I think his early post-fluff posts were ok. It's really everything after Ty said they had misread the rules that soured me on them, and there's very little after that to move the needle back to ok.

@Neon I don't think you ever answered this. In that post you said:

...where did you get that from? Did you misread what Ty wrote? Because that's not what he said he was confused about at all.

Semantics mostly. The PMs mention that xp can be exchanged for abilities. Then Ty mentioned that cp could be shared. It seemed weird to me that ty would confuse 2 differtent meanings from one word.

This reads to me like you don't want to be attached to a miskill. These things happen in mafia

And you'd be right. I don't work well under pressure and I'm not really that combative, do I'm afraid of people coming for my throat when I'm not able to properly articulate my reasons and I'm slow when attempting to reread the thread and make a reads list.

Probably it is the wrong approach to paly mafia, though.
 
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