Spectating the greatest event of the year!

[Hedin]

Awfully convenient claim there Faddy.

 

[Chuggernaut]

Oh no they've awakened the sleeping Blarg

 

[Sephi]

I haven't been keeping up with the game, but I am surprised Faddy hasn't been voted out yet.

I called out his inconsistency on the Day1 vote, I remember someone agreeing with me and he's still alive 4 days after that? And he isn't just alive, he never came close to being voted off?

 

[Randomless]

Oh no Terra what is you doing

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Faddy said he targeted Terra night one and Blarg night 2 an both claim getting their shots refunded the night Faddy targeted them.

"Oh yeah Faddy is totally a x shot cop guys"

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Also Aeleus was not a infinite shot Lighting rod.



He was one shot. That was a fucking typo by me not saying one shot.

Or at least I thought we agreed on one shot. The spreadsheet too doesn't say one shot.

What the fuck I 100% remember us agreeing to a 1 shot LR. Why the fuck is everything for it infinite? How did I forget that shit?

 

[Hedin]

Terra power wolfing out there.

 

[Aeleus]

My role PM definitely said 1-shot lightning rod

The first knight of the round table, you were one of the most loyal to your king, so much so that you were put in charge of returning the holy sword Excalibur to its original place after Artoria died. While still being a knight loyal to your king, you are ultimately a servant and will serve your master like you did your king.

You are Sir Bedivere and you are a 1-shot Lightning Rod.

You are a: Servant. Your class is: Saber.
Your master is: Zippedpinhead.
Your team is:The Einzberns.

You are trying to get this greater holy grail war back on track dammit! (that is Town)

Once, during the night you can use the command Airgetlám! All night actions will happen to you during the night!

edit: looks like you posted an outdated role PM when I flipped

 

[Aeleus]

Me: heheheh, fate is for babies, can't believe anyone would get sucked into this franchise

Also me: heheheh, this fate flavour I've made up for my Aeleus' fate mafia v2 is great, I'm a genius

 

[Aeleus]

I’m going to mock-up a spreadsheet of claimed night actions, feels like it might help visualize what’s going on and where the lies are a bit better.

 

[Hedin]

Yes but what happens when they are all lying?

 

[Aeleus]

Yes but what happens when they are all lying?

I don't care about that I just want to see the claims list :p

 

[Hedin]

My current prediction:

Faddy
Terra
ATP
wee
Reki

Last two I could talk myself in and out of, feel fairly good about the top 3.

 

[Verelios]

There are some contradictions here that you wouldn't know without the full picture (Scum gets it now, because they have all the required information) but others that are still hard to parse when you're involved. Possible to though.

One drawback from the day is that scum have almost completely organized a master/servant list while town hasn't even gotten started.

 

[Hedin]

One drawback from the day is that scum have almost completely organized a master/servant list while town hasn't even gotten started.

How accurate is their list?

 

[Verelios]

How accurate is their list?

Surprisingly accurate bar one misconception so far, lol.

 

[Natiko]

There are some contradictions here that you wouldn't know without the full picture (Scum gets it now, because they have all the required information) but others that are still hard to parse when you're involved. Possible to though.

One drawback from the day is that scum have almost completely organized a master/servant list while town hasn't even gotten started.

Yeah, but scum can safely speculate in scum chat, meanwhile doing that out in the open feels like asking to get modkilled lol Like if you say "I think Player A and Player B are paired" and extrapolate from that eventually you're going to confirm (through lack of listing) who your partner is.

 

[lokiduck]

My role PM definitely said 1-shot lightning rod



edit: looks like you posted an outdated role PM when I flipped

AH That's where my confusion lies.

I'm super fucking tempted to go fix that PM in the flip now because of this. That was a fucking mistake on our part for getting it from the google doc instead of the edited version.

And the same time it probably proves someone was a liar... so probably should just clarify it at the end >>

 

[Aeleus]

AH That's where my confusion lies.

I'm super fucking tempted to go fix that PM in the flip now because of this. That was a fucking mistake on our part for getting it from the google doc instead of the edited version.

And the same time it probably proves someone was a liar... so probably should just clarify it at the end >>

If that person is scum then I definitely think you should come clean now, definitely a good reason to do it, honesty is always the best policy

Spoiler

I'm not biased...

 

[lokiduck]

Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.

Spoiler: How Modchat decided the Lightning rod worked for night 1

This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.

As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.

The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.

LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.

Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:

1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.

2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.

In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.

TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.

 

[lokiduck]

If that person is scum then I definitely think you should come clean now, definitely a good reason to do it, honesty is always the best policy

Spoiler

I'm not biased...

 

[Aeleus]

Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.

Spoiler: How Modchat decided the Lightning rod worked for night 1

View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.

As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.

The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.

LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.

Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:

1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.

2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.

In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.

TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.

I have no idea what this means but you should ressurect me just to be safe, or just give me the win, I'm easy

 

[Hedin]

Does nobody tell the truth anymore!?

Welcome to Mafia!

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Haven't kept up but I'm surprised they haven't found scum yet. It seems like only a matter of time though.

 

[Hedin]

Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.

Spoiler: How Modchat decided the Lightning rod worked for night 1

View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.

As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.

The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.

LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.

Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:

1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.

2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.

In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.

TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.

I personally think that's a reasonable and correct ruling.

 

[Natiko]

Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.

Spoiler: How Modchat decided the Lightning rod worked for night 1

View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.

As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.

The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.

LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.

Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:

1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.

2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.

In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.

TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.

More spoilers from what I've heard through the ol' grapevine:

Spoiler

I think you are absolutely correct in believing a RB can only stop a LR when the RB directly targets the person using said LR. I don't think you're in any way wrong on that one. The one bit that I think makes it tricky is iirc from what I was told second hand - the player with the RB has a secondary ability attached to it, and THAT ability in and of itself would typically be slotted as miscellaneous. That's where it got weird here. Generally speaking though, yes a RB should not be redirected onto a LR and stop said LR.

 

[lokiduck]

More spoilers from what I've heard through the ol' grapevine:

Spoiler

I think you are absolutely correct in believing a RB can only stop a LR when the RB directly targets the person using said LR. I don't think you're in any way wrong on that one. The one bit that I think makes it tricky is iirc from what I was told second hand - the player with the RB has a secondary ability attached to it, and THAT ability in and of itself would typically be slotted as miscellaneous. That's where it got weird here. Generally speaking though, yes a RB should not be redirected onto a LR and stop said LR.

Spoiler

yeah I could see that being the case. For me with the jailer the rb would have rbed the intended target but the protection part should have been sent to Aeleus since it comes after the LR

however

Spoiler: About the role in question

that secondary power is a copy power lol that doesn’t get redirected either.

 

[Natiko]

Spoiler

yeah I could see that being the case. For me with the jailer the rb would have rbed the intended target but the protection part should have been sent to Aeleus since it comes after the LR

however

Spoiler: About the role in question

that secondary power is a copy power lol that doesn’t get redirected either.

Spoiler

Then yeah, not even any weirdness imo. I think I had heard it was a:

Spoiler

Thief ability which would have been misc. My bad

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Then yeah, not even any weirdness imo. I think I had heard it was a:

Spoiler

Thief ability which would have been misc. My bad

Spoiler: Lol

it’s a thief ability yeah. Just the variant the copies some powers.

some powers can’t be stolen because they are items that aren’t stealable (EC’s tracking power was finely tuned martial arts skills which you can’t steal). If a power can be stolen it has a chance of being rb’d (tho day powers and passives can’t be rb’d) and certain powers can be copied (flavored as the thief using the item they stole).

basically if the thief steals from someone an item they get told what the item is and it’s a hint of what their power/flavor is.

if the item is a power they copied then they get told what the item is and that they have to use it before the end of the next day phase (if a day power) or the end of the next night phase (night power).

they aren’t told what the power is but some can give hints towards it such as being told they need to say want they want to send to the targeted player being a hint of it being a message power.

so say if the thief had stolen from Aeleus they would have been given an metal arm and told they have until the following night phase to use the arm at night with a command we give them.

The thief doesn’t know it’s an LR so they take a risk using it as they do with any power they get.

obviously we made some negative powers copyable so scum has a chance of getting bad powers just as we made some powers purposefully unstealsble so they can’t be rb’d or copied.

 

[Hedin]

I think the brains of our player base have been broken.

 

[Natiko]

Spoiler: Lol

it’s a thief ability yeah. Just the variant the copies some powers.

some powers can’t be stolen because they are items that aren’t stealable (EC’s tracking power was finely tuned martial arts skills which you can’t steal). If a power can be stolen it has a chance of being rb’d (tho day powers and passives can’t be rb’d) and certain powers can be copied (flavored as the thief using the item they stole).

basically if the thief steals from someone an item they get told what the item is and it’s a hint of what their power/flavor is.

if the item is a power they copied then they get told what the item is and that they have to use it before the end of the next day phase (if a day power) or the end of the next night phase (night power).

they aren’t told what the power is but some can give hints towards it such as being told they need to say want they want to send to the targeted player being a hint of it being a message power.

so say if the thief had stolen from Aeleus they would have been given an metal arm and told they have until the following night phase to use the arm at night with a command we give them.

The thief doesn’t know it’s an LR so they take a risk using it as they do with any power they get.

obviously we made some negative powers copyable so scum has a chance of getting bad powers just as we made some powers purposefully unstealsble so they can’t be rb’d or copied.

Spoiler

Ahh, that makes sense! Clever way of implementing it. Does it steal a shot away from the target if said player is X-Shot or no? Sorry, now we're just nerding out over game design, but I think game design is half the fun.

 

[Verelios]

I think the brains of our player base have been broken.

Shadowmaster Hedin had ushered in a new age of Mafiera. These were the best of times (for us); these were the darkest of times (for them).

 

[Hedin]

Vig?

 

[Verelios]

Vig?

Nope, modkill.

 

[Randomless]

Modkill

 

[Verelios]

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I missed today's activities. It seems as if a whole bunch of silly has happened.

 

[Hedin]

The town is starting to get into danger zone here.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

The town is starting to get into danger zone here.

You gotta have faith

Spoiler

 

[Randomless]

So uh, how screwed is town now. Because it really seems like they're going to murder Launch or HP next...

 

[Verelios]

The town is starting to get into danger zone here.

Yes...they are.

 

[Verelios]

So uh, how screwed is town now. Because it really seems like they're going to murder Launch or HP next...

Um, it's not quite vote out lose out. But they're getting dangerously close.

 

[Blargonaut]

I thought I was going to be modkilled for pushing the boundaries of science with my "cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye = PURE HEART REVEAL, LANCER, LEO" disclaimer-wrapped partner hint but no I die from an old rule, this is beyond embarrassing I am mortified

 

[Zippedpinhead]

So what’s the deal with this game

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Is it scum is janitored?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I was absolutely tunneled into TvT no scum…

 

[Verelios]

Is it scum is janitored?

You guys just haven't hit scum yet...

 

[Blargonaut]

this game was a real "drunk has-been rolls into the street gutter crying himself unconscious and wakes up to worldwide tabloid photos of the scene" moment for me

 

[Verelios]

I thought I was going to be modkilled for pushing the boundaries of science with my "cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye = PURE HEART REVEAL, LANCER, LEO" disclaimer-wrapped partner hint but no I die from an old rule, this is beyond embarrassing I am mortified

We're never too old to learn.

 

[Blargonaut]

yes it's only upwards from here

 

[Sephi]

Town will get one tomorrow, maybe.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

You guys just haven't hit scum yet...

Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…

 

[Blargonaut]

At least I can take solace in the fact that I did loki's absolute favourite Fate character Waver Velvet justice through my award-winning nuanced portrayal

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…

No way Launch is scum. If he is, I quit mafia.

 

[Verelios]

Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…

Spoiler: Team Spoilers

hmmmm...no.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

I am so ashamed

 

[Zippedpinhead]

 

[Verelios]

I am so ashamed

You were doing really well until the TvTvN conspiracy made you spiral.

 

[Blargonaut]

Take this from someone who is ashamed, you have nothing to be ashamed about

 

[Blargonaut]

yeah honestly I do apologise to you LoVe, my performance was subpar and I didn't mean to throw my life away like that. I owe you two & Town some traditional hamburgers

 

[Verelios]

yeah honestly I do apologise to you LoVe, my performance was subpar and I didn't mean to throw my life away like that. I owe you two & Town some traditional hamburgers

 

[Chuggernaut]

Town is currently losing their minds

 

[Verelios]

Town is currently losing their minds

Yep, even the most skeptical of them are now entertaining the TvT theory.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

When do we get spoiled. I'm dying here.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Then what’s the gimmick?

 

[Hedin]

Then what’s the gimmick?

Does there need to be a gimmick besides the master/servant pairings?

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Does there need to be a gimmick besides the master/servant pairings?

There didn’t, until I convinced myself there was one…

 

[Verelios]

When do we get spoiled. I'm dying here.

Going open spoilers soon. Town is in a bad spot right now.

 

[Randomless]

Oh boy open spoilers, I can finally post my pre-typed post

 

[lokiduck]

Spoiler

Ahh, that makes sense! Clever way of implementing it. Does it steal a shot away from the target if said player is X-Shot or no? Sorry, now we're just nerding out over game design, but I think game design is half the fun.

Spoiler

It doesn't, the target just gets their shot refunded which is standard for how I handle Rb's. Them stealing a shot does seem like a fun idea tho so maybe if I do a thief in the future I will totes do that LOL. :D :D :D

And yes Game design is sometimes the most fun part for me and honestly it is right now :/ Game running can be fun but also chaos DX

 

[lokiduck]

I thought I was going to be modkilled for pushing the boundaries of science with my "cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye = PURE HEART REVEAL, LANCER, LEO" disclaimer-wrapped partner hint but no I die from an old rule, this is beyond embarrassing I am mortified

LOL yeah you def would have been killed for that. If I wasn't working through out the day I would have told you to knock it off with the partner = partner crap.

I really did like your posts tho the whole Iskei'd joke was hilarious considering your flavor.

It's just I noticed you quoting lover chat (that was why he was killed by the way guys ) and had to tell mod chat. They had the meeting about it while I was IRL in a meeting lol.

So what’s the deal with this game

Scum is covered in grease. Seriously



They have nearly been voted out so many times this game but they keep avoiding it at the last minute.

At least I can take solace in the fact that I did loki's absolute favourite Fate character Waver Velvet justice through my award-winning nuanced portrayal

LOL again the Isekei'd joke had me laughing so yes I can give you that.

yeah honestly I do apologise to you LoVe, my performance was subpar and I didn't mean to throw my life away like that. I owe you two & Town some traditional hamburgers

it's okay x3

Then what’s the gimmick?

lol Zipped this may surprise you... but there are two teams flavor wise and scum is among said teams out to win the grail for themselves.

That's it.

 

[lokiduck]

All right everyone!

Time to give me your final scum team guesses. We'll go open spoilers at day start tomorrow.

 

[lokiduck]

Also thanks @Hedin for causing this chaos with your game LOL.

Mafioso was in development since 2019 and people still think this game has the same gimmick as yours LOL

Your broke our community good.

 

[Aeleus]

we need a day 5 ends threadmark

 

[Aeleus]

My guess having read hardly any of the game post mortem is Faddy, Terra, Wee, Pandora, Hobohodo and ATP

 

[Aeleus]

Also well done Zipped for surviving for so long, feel bad that people used you upholding my legacy as a reason to be suspicious but I'm still glad you did!

The next time we're paired we'll take them all on! For the Einzberns! For Camelot!

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Also well done Zipped for surviving for so long, feel bad that people used you upholding my legacy as a reason to be suspicious but I'm still glad you did!

The next time we're paired we'll take them all on! For the Einzberns! For Camelot!

Agreed, I think if I hadn’t stuck my neck out on the crazy theory I think I probably would have gone another two days.

But the pressure! The immense pressure! It was drawing near.

final scum guess:

faddy, pandora, and then maybe wee and Reki.

But I did read that one spoiler.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Also well done Zipped for surviving for so long, feel bad that people used you upholding my legacy as a reason to be suspicious but I'm still glad you did!

The next time we're paired we'll take them all on! For the Einzberns! For Camelot!

Also, you DID use the LR night 1 right? I thought that was obvious based on our conversations in the chat and what happened.

i also thought I breadcrumbed it enough that I was your pair but…

 

[Aeleus]

Also, you DID use the LR night 1 right? I thought that was obvious based on our conversations in the chat and what happened.

i also thought I breadcrumbed it enough that I was your pair but…

I did yeah and I thought you made it obvious as well but we've got a different perspective than most players I guess

 

[Blargonaut]

I was saying 8 Mafia but it's probably really 6? So I'll say my ULTIMATE POSTMORTEM INSTINCT guesses now are: Zem, Terraforce, ATP, Fate, Faddy and Ty4on

 

[Verelios]

Seeing some good answers. Scum have been playing a tight game so far.

 

[Hedin]

I was saying 8 Mafia but it's probably really 6? So I'll say my ULTIMATE POSTMORTEM INSTINCT guesses now are: Zem, Terraforce, ATP, Fate, Faddy and Ty4on

It'll be a team of 5.

 

[Randomless]

Okay so discarding the slight hinting spoilers from spec chat, my guesses at the scum team when I died were:
Ty, Reki, Faddy, Pandora
If the scum team is larger than that I would also assume Ambulance and ATP are scum

 

[Hedin]

Final answer:

Faddy
ATP
Terra
Reki
Ty

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I haven't been able to follow much since I dropped, so I am just curious how they line up with some of my original reads. I only gave 4, but I assumed 6 is real answer? Hedin seems confident on 5 though.

 

[Verelios]

I was saying 8 Mafia but it's probably really 6? So I'll say my ULTIMATE POSTMORTEM INSTINCT guesses now are: Zem, Terraforce, ATP, Fate, Faddy and Ty4on

It'll be a team of 5.

I haven't been able to follow much since I dropped, so I am just curious how they line up with some of my original reads. I only gave 4, but I assumed 6 is real answer? Hedin seems confident on 5 though.

Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).

 

[lokiduck]

And wee is messaging the commuter who is commuting

whoops

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).

Well, at least I was right there. Just too lazy to guess the last 2.

 

[Hedin]

Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).

Oh town is in trouble then.

Let's see if I need a 6th it would be between wee, HP, and Hobo. I feel like wee was honest with Launch yesterday so I will go with HP.

 

[Z-beat]

Me being petty about this game

 

[Verelios]

Me being petty about this game

Z-beat after the game:

 

[Randomless]

Me being petty about this game

I don't want to be mean but if you claimed Jailer the game could've gone completely differently.

 

[Verelios]

Oh town is in trouble then.

Let's see if I need a 6th it would be between wee, HP, and Hobo. I feel like wee was honest with Launch yesterday so I will go with HP.

Town is in dire straits, yeah. How dire? It's possible for them to lose tomorrow =(

 

[Z-beat]

I don't want to be mean but if you claimed Jailer the game could've gone completely differently.

FOOL! Z-beat claims when he pleases

Dodging blame for a bad read is in poor form

 

[Hedin]

Town is in dire straits, yeah. How dire? It's possible for them to lose tomorrow =(

Yep with a neutral already securing the win that takes away a lot of their margin. Town has to hit today.

 

[Natiko]

I don't think there's any real hope of town winning. POE is still too big, they'll make a mistake.

 

[lokiduck]

I don't think there's any real hope of town winning. POE is still too big, they'll make a mistake.

There’s still a chance most of the scum team is covered in grease and keeps avoiding being voted out but they have been the second biggest train so there’s a chance

 

[Verelios]

I don't think there's any real hope of town winning. POE is still too big, they'll make a mistake.

They have a lifeline if they get a scum master. Depending on where scum hits tonight:
L= Light (Town helpful)
D=Dark (Stabby)

Pair NK--16 (10L 6D)-> 14 (8L 6D) needs maj. 8 so at least 2 more days if a scum master is voted out. Misvote ends in a town loss unless NK is impeded.

1 NK--16 (10L 6D)-> 15 (L9 6D) needs maj. 8 giving town 1 more day making this volo.

 

[Natiko]

Oh I'm not saying it's technically impossible, I just think it's very improbable at this stage lol And honestly, town probably deserves to lose if you go this far without a mafia flip tbh.