
The first knight of the round table, you were one of the most loyal to your king, so much so that you were put in charge of returning the holy sword Excalibur to its original place after Artoria died. While still being a knight loyal to your king, you are ultimately a servant and will serve your master like you did your king.
You are Sir Bedivere and you are a 1-shot Lightning Rod.
You are a: Servant. Your class is: Saber.
Your master is: Zippedpinhead.
Your team is:The Einzberns.
You are trying to get this greater holy grail war back on track dammit! (that is Town)
Once, during the night you can use the command Airgetlám! All night actions will happen to you during the night!
Launchpad said:I’m going to mock-up a spreadsheet of claimed night actions, feels like it might help visualize what’s going on and where the lies are a bit better.
I don't care about that I just want to see the claims list :pYes but what happens when they are all lying?
One drawback from the day is that scum have almost completely organized a master/servant list while town hasn't even gotten started.
Surprisingly accurate bar one misconception so far, lol.How accurate is their list?
Yeah, but scum can safely speculate in scum chat, meanwhile doing that out in the open feels like asking to get modkilled lol Like if you say "I think Player A and Player B are paired" and extrapolate from that eventually you're going to confirm (through lack of listing) who your partner is.There are some contradictions here that you wouldn't know without the full picture (Scum gets it now, because they have all the required information) but others that are still hard to parse when you're involved. Possible to though.
One drawback from the day is that scum have almost completely organized a master/servant list while town hasn't even gotten started.
My role PM definitely said 1-shot lightning rod
edit: looks like you posted an outdated role PM when I flipped
If that person is scum then I definitely think you should come clean now, definitely a good reason to do it, honesty is always the best policy
AH That's where my confusion lies.
I'm super fucking tempted to go fix that PM in the flip now because of this. That was a fucking mistake on our part for getting it from the google doc instead of the edited version.
And the same time it probably proves someone was a liar... so probably should just clarify it at the end >>
If that person is scum then I definitely think you should come clean now, definitely a good reason to do it, honesty is always the best policy
I'm not biased...
I have no idea what this means but you should ressurect me just to be safe, or just give me the win, I'm easyOkayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.
View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.
As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.
The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.
LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.
Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:
1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.
2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.
In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.
TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.
Does nobody tell the truth anymore!?
Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.
View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.
As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.
The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.
LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.
Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:
1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.
2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.
In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.
TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.
More spoilers from what I've heard through the ol' grapevine:Okayyyyyyy so I'm putting it in a spoiler post so don't read this until you want to know the truth about what happened night 1. I'm doing this now, because I really just want to talk about it lol. I'll probably link this post in the main thread at the end of the game as well, so peeps can yell at me if they hate what happened.
View attachment 453This is our community night action priority list LOL. This is what Vere and I use to decide what powers get priority because it's the order every game runner is supposed to use to keep games consistant.
As you can see the LR is under Redirect, meaning the powers listed above it can interfere in it's ability. For example if say Z-Beat had targeted Aeleus the LR wouldn't have gone off, because LR can be roleblocked.
The priority list works that powers can interfere with powers below them, but powers below something can't interfere with the actions above it. So a Rb can't RB a commuter or Copier for example, but they can RB an inspector or killer.
LR can be RB'd, but only if they are directly targeted. Or at least that is the belief I have held about them since i became a game runner, and it's what modchat agreed on when we discussed it. I believe Review chat also came to the same conclusion but Monkey and Flush can say otherwise if that's not the case.
Anyways the reason why in our opinion an LR can only be RB'd if they are directly targeted is because:
1. The RB shot would have already gone through before the LR activated because the RB has higher priority. The same thing happens with Copiers. They have the highest priority so they'd go through as would a commuter. If Z-Beat had jailed someone other than Aeleus that night then the person targeted would have been Jailed and the LR would ahve gone through affecting all other powers. Same with if a commuter or Copier had used their power.
2. If say the RB/Jailor shots doesn't get used up before the LR activates, then this becomes a paradox. If the RB is targeting someone else, but the LR forces them to target the LR, then the LR gets RB'd instead, which then means that the LR doesn't work, so the RB targets their intended target after all and the LR goes off and then the RB is force... and so on and so on.
In my personal opinion the only way the LR could affect a jailor, generic RB, or even a copier is if it has higher priority because that's how the priority order works. But if the LR has higher Priority than all those powers, then it can't be RB'd ever and that makes thepower even more OP. So yeah this is why we went with this decision.
TLDR: The LR doesn't affect powers above it because they are used before the LR activates.
More spoilers from what I've heard through the ol' grapevine:
I think you are absolutely correct in believing a RB can only stop a LR when the RB directly targets the person using said LR. I don't think you're in any way wrong on that one. The one bit that I think makes it tricky is iirc from what I was told second hand - the player with the RB has a secondary ability attached to it, and THAT ability in and of itself would typically be slotted as miscellaneous. That's where it got weird here. Generally speaking though, yes a RB should not be redirected onto a LR and stop said LR.
yeah I could see that being the case. For me with the jailer the rb would have rbed the intended target but the protection part should have been sent to Aeleus since it comes after the LR
howeverthat secondary power is a copy power lol that doesn’t get redirected either.
Then yeah, not even any weirdness imo. I think I had heard it was a:
Thief ability which would have been misc. My bad
it’s a thief ability yeah. Just the variant the copies some powers.
some powers can’t be stolen because they are items that aren’t stealable (EC’s tracking power was finely tuned martial arts skills which you can’t steal). If a power can be stolen it has a chance of being rb’d (tho day powers and passives can’t be rb’d) and certain powers can be copied (flavored as the thief using the item they stole).
basically if the thief steals from someone an item they get told what the item is and it’s a hint of what their power/flavor is.
if the item is a power they copied then they get told what the item is and that they have to use it before the end of the next day phase (if a day power) or the end of the next night phase (night power).
they aren’t told what the power is but some can give hints towards it such as being told they need to say want they want to send to the targeted player being a hint of it being a message power.
so say if the thief had stolen from Aeleus they would have been given an metal arm and told they have until the following night phase to use the arm at night with a command we give them.
The thief doesn’t know it’s an LR so they take a risk using it as they do with any power they get.
obviously we made some negative powers copyable so scum has a chance of getting bad powers just as we made some powers purposefully unstealsble so they can’t be rb’d or copied.
Shadowmaster Hedin had ushered in a new age of Mafiera. These were the best of times (for us); these were the darkest of times (for them).I think the brains of our player base have been broken.
Nope, modkill.Vig?
You gotta have faithThe town is starting to get into danger zone here.
Um, it's not quite vote out lose out. But they're getting dangerously close.So uh, how screwed is town now. Because it really seems like they're going to murder Launch or HP next...
You guys just haven't hit scum yet...Is it scum is janitored?
We're never too old to learn.I thought I was going to be modkilled for pushing the boundaries of science with my "cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye = PURE HEART REVEAL, LANCER, LEO" disclaimer-wrapped partner hint but no I die from an old rule, this is beyond embarrassing I am mortified
Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…You guys just haven't hit scum yet...
No way Launch is scum. If he is, I quit mafia.Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…
Who is scum team…. It’s Ty and Launch isn’t it…
You were doing really well until the TvTvN conspiracy made you spiral.I am so ashamed
yeah honestly I do apologise to you LoVe, my performance was subpar and I didn't mean to throw my life away like that. I owe you two & Town some traditional hamburgers
Yep, even the most skeptical of them are now entertaining the TvT theory.Town is currently losing their minds
Then what’s the gimmick?
There didn’t, until I convinced myself there was one…Does there need to be a gimmick besides the master/servant pairings?
Going open spoilers soon. Town is in a bad spot right now.When do we get spoiled. I'm dying here.
Ahh, that makes sense! Clever way of implementing it. Does it steal a shot away from the target if said player is X-Shot or no? Sorry, now we're just nerding out over game design, but I think game design is half the fun.
LOL yeah you def would have been killed for that. If I wasn't working through out the day I would have told you to knock it off with the partner = partner crap.I thought I was going to be modkilled for pushing the boundaries of science with my "cross my heart hope to die stick a needle in my eye = PURE HEART REVEAL, LANCER, LEO" disclaimer-wrapped partner hint but no I die from an old rule, this is beyond embarrassing I am mortified
) and had to tell mod chat. They had the meeting about it while I was IRL in a meeting lol.Scum is covered in grease. SeriouslySo what’s the deal with this game
LOL again the Isekei'd joke had me laughing so yes I can give you that.At least I can take solace in the fact that I did loki's absolute favourite Fate character Waver Velvet justice through my award-winning nuanced portrayal
it's okay x3yeah honestly I do apologise to you LoVe, my performance was subpar and I didn't mean to throw my life away like that. I owe you two & Town some traditional hamburgers
lol Zipped this may surprise you... but there are two teams flavor wise and scum is among said teams out to win the grail for themselves.Then what’s the gimmick?
Agreed, I think if I hadn’t stuck my neck out on the crazy theory I think I probably would have gone another two days.Also well done Zipped for surviving for so long, feel bad that people used you upholding my legacy as a reason to be suspicious but I'm still glad you did!
The next time we're paired we'll take them all on! For the Einzberns! For Camelot!
Also, you DID use the LR night 1 right? I thought that was obvious based on our conversations in the chat and what happened.Also well done Zipped for surviving for so long, feel bad that people used you upholding my legacy as a reason to be suspicious but I'm still glad you did!
The next time we're paired we'll take them all on! For the Einzberns! For Camelot!
I did yeah and I thought you made it obvious as well but we've got a different perspective than most players I guessAlso, you DID use the LR night 1 right? I thought that was obvious based on our conversations in the chat and what happened.
i also thought I breadcrumbed it enough that I was your pair but…
I was saying 8 Mafia but it's probably really 6? So I'll say my ULTIMATE POSTMORTEM INSTINCT guesses now are: Zem, Terraforce, ATP, Fate, Faddy and Ty4on
I was saying 8 Mafia but it's probably really 6? So I'll say my ULTIMATE POSTMORTEM INSTINCT guesses now are: Zem, Terraforce, ATP, Fate, Faddy and Ty4on
It'll be a team of 5.
Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).I haven't been able to follow much since I dropped, so I am just curious how they line up with some of my original reads. I only gave 4, but I assumed 6 is real answer? Hedin seems confident on 5 though.
Well, at least I was right there. Just too lazy to guess the last 2.Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).
Like Blarg thought, there are 6 scum in play ;).
I don't want to be mean but if you claimed Jailer the game could've gone completely differently.Me being petty about this game
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Town is in dire straits, yeah. How dire? It's possible for them to lose tomorrow =(Oh town is in trouble then.
Let's see if I need a 6th it would be between wee, HP, and Hobo. I feel like wee was honest with Launch yesterday so I will go with HP.
FOOL! Z-beat claims when he pleasesI don't want to be mean but if you claimed Jailer the game could've gone completely differently.
Town is in dire straits, yeah. How dire? It's possible for them to lose tomorrow =(
There’s still a chance most of the scum team is covered in grease and keeps avoiding being voted out but they have been the second biggest train so there’s a chanceI don't think there's any real hope of town winning. POE is still too big, they'll make a mistake.
They have a lifeline if they get a scum master. Depending on where scum hits tonight:I don't think there's any real hope of town winning. POE is still too big, they'll make a mistake.