I would think that the mechanics of the claiming would be under more scrutiny than the claims themselves. Why did you wait until last to claim? Why did you give such little info? Etc. People seem very inclined to read into and scrutinize flavor, though.
This is a beautiful term, and I love it lol.
I see that. They also haven’t given up on being more suspicious of those who have claimed than not. My flip surprised everyone yet they still can’t believe there could be other protective roles. They have no idea what scum has besides Blarg’s ability.
YES. THIS IS KILLING ME. Town is doing TOO MUCH this game and that’s why they are going in circles. You don’t have to dig this deep. You don’t have to come up with reasons and gymnastics your way into a logic pretzel.
Thanks. I definitely learned quite a bit from the way I played it. I assumed my role would be challenged as potential deception, but not implausible based on mechanics. It’s hard to argue against that.
what an autocorrect
People have been complaining about this 3 years ago...
Hopefully with Flush's flip town will realize that scum has been given passible powers for their fake claims LOL this might be what helps town finally take care of HP and even others
I mean yeah that's pretty true, but a lot of people think you can solve games via claiming and seeing the game LOL.
I wish I was 3 years or older
I think HP will be a much easier band-aid for them to rip off now, yeah. Blarg having one passive and one active wasn't quite enough of a clue, but seeing someone with just straight up 2 different powers is quite the hint I'd like to think.
yep hopefully town will figure it out instead of trying to kill town LOL.
Yes, and was the second registered vote after Fate. So I think this is only going to strengthen Fate's assertion that HP can't possibly be scum.
I could argue a technical case that a scum double vote should make a game bastard but I know I am a Holder of Hardline Opinions.
I have never considered a scum double vote bastard but to be fair the first game I ever saw in this community had one and it was a unusual game since it was loveboat 3
See, that's it right there - to me, that's the bastard line. In design, you wanted scum roles to seem town. To me that's purposeful misdirection.
Nope, Randomless is still in there with him.
This day isn’t starting off well
Yeah I get that. In general as a community we should maybe consider setting clear line for what each complexity is so we don’t have any confusion.
Oh right the ready room can live past Picard lol I forgot that.
To be fair… Faddy and helped in a lot of that and players need to consider what impact reviewers can have on a game lol
It was more that Town had a lot of confirmable powers, and Scum needed some too to balance it, otherwise a mass claim would end in Scum getting voted out for having relatively weak flavor claims + relatively unproveable role claims.
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Yep, the secret mechanic was that if Picard invited Lwaxana, then they'd become Lovers.
Oh no anex, what could have been <3
That's the thing. I think as soon as we set clearer lines, we break them somehow. I don't know that there IS a solution, but talking through things is good at least to get people to realize that the labels and definitions aren't a hard line.
also this, this forever!!
Well that’s a different kind of block.
They’re acting as if he’s not even in the game anymore, just talking right past him. It’s so bizarre.
But it did work.
Because Nat claimed miller for no reason instead of keeping mouth shut. It would have worked if I was still in the game. Its's my fault for subbing out but the Fake claim was not the issue having a substitute not aware of plan was.
It was my suggestion to make that mechanic a thing I still wish it had happened lol
Honestly yeah i think unusual might be the way to go forward. If we make a special "it's bastard for only one specific reason" then people will go into the game knowing more what to expect lol. Having it be Unusual works for cases that'd fit almost bastard while not having to take that step to label it bastard and disappoint people down the road or something.
Agree with this. As said earlier, things in Nier would have gone very differently if nin had claimed instead of being caught by the role cop Hedin... and Kalor in HvV3 wouldn't have been checked by two cop shots on the same night if he had claimed LOL.
I was attempting to Min-Nax the role by raising the chance mafia killed me.
Anex would have had to display some towniness for that *badumtish*
That's why I made sure to tell cop not to check me. I used the good faith an rupture i have built to aid my gambit
I’m confused by doctor, backup doctor, bodyguard, and BP vest creator [assuming that’s not a lie] plus whatever Geordi could do, and I’m dead.
LOL yeahhhh I liked Pulaski a little near the end of her run on the show, but I hated her for most of it because of how Racist she was.
The issue with that is it clued people in on your role pretty immediately lol.
Thanks for the tip I will do this since my game has no bastard lies but does have some unique stuff.
I assumed multiple people would guess I was miller This is not a bad thing I had to make it obvious I was miller and what my Gambits goal was when it was time to mass claim at end of game. I walked a line of creating some small doubt but not drawing town aggro.
Agreed
….the guy who was town?
Yeah, that didn't work out. Your claim smelled like bait so we were extra careful not to target you with anything, not even the kill :D
The issue is we are telling you multiple times that your assumptions here are wrong. That’s okay. You tried a thing. Sometimes that fails. What you did here would not bait a kill and instead can just muddy the waters for town. If you don’t want to listen or you don’t agree, that’s fine but “I don’t see the issue” - my dude, folks are telling you how your gambit was likely to be seen. That’s the point of these post-game discussions.
